Assisted suicide

[Doctor Fate]

What is your opinion on assisted suicide? Are you for it or against it?

I'm not exactly sure of which ground I stand on. I think it should be perfectly acceptable if the person consents to it, but in cases where said person is in a coma or otherwise unable to communicate with others... I can't really say.

[deadpie]

I'm not for any type of suicide.
Even though I've tried many times and i have talked about doing a suicide pact with someone, it just makes things worse.

[Mental]

Considering when someone wants to commit suicide their mental state is not 100% healthy, then I consider assisted suicide wrong - like say in the case of someone helping their clinically depressed friend or family member hang himself/herself. You should not be helping such person kill themselves, you should be trying to get him/her help and encouraging him/her to live.

But assisted suicide in the case of euthanasia, I'm more sympathetic to. In the case of someone terminally ill and suffering greatly, then helping them die may be seen as a loving thing.

[Doctor Fate]

Not necessarily. If someone has no hope of recovery, they're in a lot of pain and their condition has nowhere to go but down before Nature kills them anyway, why not escape their suffering while they can? That is what I would do...

[Mental]

Not necessarily. If someone has no hope of recovery, they're in a lot of pain and their condition has nowhere to go but down before Nature kills them anyway, why not escape their suffering while they can? That is what I would do...
That's euthanasia. Not neccesarily assisted suicide.

[Iron Man]

well if it is "assisted suicide" it is referred to as euthanasia, or homicide for that matter

[Doctor Fate]

That's euthanasia. Not neccesarily assisted suicide.

Well it should also be acceptable to commit suicide under such circumstance...

[Jove]

Well it should also be acceptable to commit suicide under such circumstance...

They are essentially the same thing in that circumstance.

[Giles]

I think that if the person has a terminal illness, regardless of if it can be treated, should have the option of assisted suicide. If they give their consent I see no true reason why not.

In the case of a coma however I'm unsure. The person can't tell us what they want so it's up to the next of kin, who might not know - therefore may feel guilty afterwards.
When the person is in a coma it's all just such a mess that it's too confusing to try and contemplate.

[Sage]

No one be forced to continue living if they do not want to. If they've made up their mind, they have every right to end their own life, preferably in a clean way.

[Giles]

No one be forced to continue living if they do not want to. If they've made up their mind, they have every right to end their own life, preferably in a clean way.

Better helped by the government than hanging themselves in the public eye.

[L]

i think a person can kill themselves if they want too, but assisted suicide might leave alot of guilt on the person who assisted, so i'd say its more of a one person job.

[Sage]

Better helped by the government than hanging themselves in the public eye.

Let's refrain from putting things in the mouths of other, shall we? It's a favor I'd prefer not to return.

[Mental]

No one be forced to continue living if they do not want to. If they've made up their mind, they have every right to end their own life, preferably in a clean way.
Most people who "don't want to live any more" aren't always mentally sound, though. People only feel suicidal because they're depressed or have another such problem. Rather than giving them the right to kill themselves, why not give them the right to get help getting over their suicidal thoughts? Nobody is out of reach.

And yes, I've been down that path of being suicidal and attempting suicide. I know what it's like.

I think that if the person has a terminal illness, regardless of if it can be treated, should have the option of assisted suicide. If they give their consent I see no true reason why not.

In the case of a coma however I'm unsure. The person can't tell us what they want so it's up to the next of kin, who might not know - therefore may feel guilty afterwards.
When the person is in a coma it's all just such a mess that it's too confusing to try and contemplate.
If euthanasia were legal, they could sort out the coma thing by having the person perhaps having it written somehow, or just on the assumption of what she/he'd have preferred.

You're not actually suffering so much in a coma, but if the state is permanent and you can't come back, there's no point keeping you alive on a life-support machine if it's not gonna make any difference, and somebody else could be using it.

[Jove]

Most people who "don't want to live any more" aren't always mentally sound, though. People only feel suicidal because they're depressed or have another such problem. Rather than giving them the right to kill themselves, why not give them the right to get help getting over their suicidal thoughts? Nobody is out of reach.


Mental sickness is not the only reason people want to die rather than live, as has already been discussed in this thread, Mental.

[Sage]

Most people who "don't want to live any more" aren't always mentally sound, though. People only feel suicidal because they're depressed or have another such problem. Rather than giving them the right to kill themselves, why not give them the right to get help getting over their suicidal thoughts? Nobody is out of reach.

Last I checked this right was already present.

[Mental]

Mental sickness is not the only reason people want to die rather than live, as has already been discussed in this thread, Mental.
Yeah, and if you could read a little better, you would have noticed that I'd already talked other reasons in my earlier posts:

But assisted suicide in the case of euthanasia, I'm more sympathetic to. In the case of someone terminally ill and suffering greatly, then helping them die may be seen as a loving thing.
If euthanasia were legal, they could sort out the coma thing by having the person perhaps having it written somehow, or just on the assumption of what she/he'd have preferred.

You're not actually suffering so much in a coma, but if the state is permanent and you can't come back, there's no point keeping you alive on a life-support machine if it's not gonna make any difference, and somebody else could be using it.


Last I checked this right was already present.
Yeah, so why do you think people should have the right to kill themselves (for mental circumstances I'm going to assume here, also)?

I didn't actually say help wasn't around, btw. My question was rhetorical.

[Giles]

Let's refrain from putting things in the mouths of other, shall we? It's a favor I'd prefer not to return.

I wasn't. I was posting what I thought, in relation to the way you worded it.

[CuriousDestruction]

there is a difference between euthanasia, physician assisted suicide and assisted suicide. euthanasia is the taking of ones life as a mercy killing. pas is when a doctor prescribes pills to end one's life. assisted suicide is helping someone kill themself. some of these can overlap of course. however having just written a paper on the legalization of euthanasia i am for it as long as the patient consents to it, along with pas. assisted suicide... not so much.

[Memory]

Against. I bet the assistant will be scarred for life if he participates in it.

[Giles]

Against. I bet the assistant will be scarred for life if he participates in it.

Depends, if they are trained to experience it then not so much. Still scarred, just it shouldn't affect them so much.
I don't see why the family couldn't actually 'do it'... Make the injection.(However they'd do it)

[2D]

Call me old fashioned, but I liked it when people valued all kinds of life.

[Giles]

Call me old fashioned, but I liked it when people valued all kinds of life.

I wouldn't fancy being in immense pain, I'd rather die.

[Kahn]

Jesus.. Why would you even contemplate assisted suicide? It is like murdering someone with their permission. I have nothing else to add.

[Giles]

Jesus.. Why would you even contemplate assisted suicide? It is like murdering someone with their permission. I have nothing else to add.

If you have their permission what's the problem. Besides it's painless.

[Kahn]

Because A.) They could get help. B.) What other human being would want to see one die? C.) Meh, just my opinion but I still think it is sick.

[Giles]

They may not want help
Someone doing their Job... It may be sick, but it would be an interesting job.

(2000th post)

[2D]

If you have their permission what's the problem. Besides it's painless.

Especially because pain helps us make such logical decisions.

When I got some really bad RR on my left knee from crashing I couldn't even see straight it hurt so bad nonetheless make a logical decision.