why do people complain about their lives when there are people worse off then them?

[StateRights]

ok. so your boyfriend or girlfriend broke up with you. be sad. but why do people think they are depressed at that? or if a few kids pick on you at school.

i am sad sometimes just like everyone else but there are starving babies and families in south america, africa and asia that have way worse lifes than you as you at least have xcess to the internet and live in a comfortable rich country like america, australia, canada and europe and britain were your not recruited by child armies 2 shoot your parents and you have freedom of speech most of the time

you have operatunities to go to school and college and if u work hard enough become a doctor or lawyer and earn a good salary. u have protection from the police.

some people in the world have no hope at a good life and only live 2 eat scraps and drink dirty water so remember that next time u are cryin over your bf/gf leaving you

I'm just being brutally honest here

[Kahn]

Maybe they complain about those things but how do you know the whole story? Maybe they are abused and sometimes people don't want to talk about that because it is a terrifying experience.

And when people are depressed-which is not a fun experience- why would they think about the others in South America or anywhere that are starving. We know there is somebody that is worse off than us but this is our life. If we can't feel a certain thing because there is someone else worse off don't you think that is odd? If I can't feel sad that my Grandfather just died a few weeks ago because of someone else about half the world away that would just be considered odd to me. I don't agree with anything you said except that there is always an opportunity open for you. You just have to know when you take it.

~Adam

[BeautifulDisaster]

"Any problem in life is challenging to the one who is dealing with it and shouldn't be downplayed just because someone else out there seems to have it worse."

Third thread that's offensive & arrogant.

Troll IMHO.

If not, extremely insensitive & clearly doesn't know what it's like to suffer from mental health illnesses/disorders, especially severely so, or apparently suffer from abuse/neglect/rape/sexual abuse/molest/grief/etc.

People feel shit enough about themselves, they don't need people like you making it worse.

[Quick_Sylver]

You'd be surprised how many of them do know that.However, we are human and we have a number 1 basis, most live by. Also to help others you must help yourself. It's their choice. Sometimes they can't help to complain. It's better than them killing themselves, no?

You may want to stop being arrogant to assume you know everything that happened. For all you know the reason their g/f, b/f, partner left was because they committed suicide. Or as Adam said are abused. Or harming. You do not know everything that goes on. No one tells the whole story. Ever.

Maybe you should think about that a couple times over. Then try and be arrogant enough to assume what's going on in people's personal lives. For all you know they could have been raped by their partner. Or sexually abused as a child. THINK before you open your mouth chico. Or you're going to end up gone pretty fast.

~Secrasi

[Asylum]

i find this post offensive.... you have no idea what goes on in people's lives.... you have no idea what hells they've experienced and been through.... i agree with both Becky and Aimee.. no one tells the whole story... they leave things out.... because whne they bring it up... all the pain just comes right back.... this post really upsets me...

[2D]

You, sir, are so ignorant that it saddens me.

[BlackBetty]

When someone looses someone that is really close to them and they are going through a hard time, don't you think you would be upset too?? When people loose the only thing they got close to them, they have a reason to be upset.

And for the people that don't have food in the world, there is programs out there for them to get help on buying food and baby formula. It's just that people have too much pride in there self and can't lower there gate to go get the help that they need.

You really do have problems. It seems like Trolling to me.

[Obscene Eyedeas]

I am so offended by this post! of course people know about the bad things that happen in the world and to others. but what about ourselves Are we supposed to suppres our feelings just because something worse happened to someone else. people like you sicken me. you sit Up there on your pedestal judging others but if these things happened to you, you would also be depressed and would complain of how life is unfair! you need to wake up and face reality! you have no idea how destructive this post could be to someone severely depressed. what right have you to judge us? and while you wrote this post you could have being doing something constructive like helping someone in need. instead of bitching. you need to get off your pedestal and take a look around. you joined vt the people on here in my opinion Are amazing in how they seek help and advice and how they help others they don't need someone like you telling them that venting things that Are hurting them is wrong because its not. you Are wrong.

you need to take a deep breath get off your pedestal and open your eyes.

[Mental]

This kid is either insecure and depressed himself so he covers it up by making these sort of threads and posts (I'm sure everyone's read his ROTW, self-harm and anorexia posts and threads) or he's obviously never had to worry about a thing in his life and thinks he is in the position to promote that "tough guy" ideological crap.

[MysticalBurrito]

This kid is either insecure and depressed himself so he covers it up by making these sort of threads and posts (I'm sure everyone's read his ROTW, self-harm and anorexia posts and threads) or he's obviously never had to worry about a thing in his life and thinks he is in the position to promote that "tough guy" ideological crap.

Qft.

[haibekah]

narcissism at it's best.

[OnlyByTheNight.]

im sorry, correct me if im wrong here, but are you saying that just because there are people in parts of the world who are extremely badly off that people in the 'rich countries' are not ALLOWED to be depressed?? cause thats sure as hell what it sounds like!

[Kaius]

You, sir, are so ignorant that it saddens me.

I only needed to look at the Obama thread and read a few of his posts to know that :/

im sorry, correct me if im wrong here, but are you saying that just because there are people in parts of the world who are extremely badly off that people in the 'rich countries' are not ALLOWED to be depressed?? cause thats sure as hell what it sounds like!

I got that impression as well

[Mal]

I was going to post something productive, then I remembered who you are and decided not to bother since you'd just ignore it.

Do us all a favour and stop making threads about things you haven't got a fucking clue about.

[Hatsune Miku]

Offensive much? Really, think before typing.

Just because there are people who have it worse doesn't mean we cant be depressed. You don't know peoples lives, you don't know what they had to go through. And do you really think America is that rich? You ever heard of wall street? And the economy? Rich is the wrong word. People here have it pretty bad too.

And if you are referring to Haiti. Yeah there doing really bad right now. But their getting help. I even donated money to help. And not all parts are poor. Haiti has some beautiful sights and buildings. Not all of the west is poor buddy. Do your research before you assume.

u have protection from the police

Hmmm... A few days ago a police raped a 4 year old girl in my city. I don't feel that protected.

You have some problems and you need to get them straightened out before you start another ignorant thread.

[Sheekthief]

Well, due to the ignorance from you maan.. I'll clear and educate your poor little mind.

Yes, there are dying babies and loads of people who are in FAR more critical condition, some even life threatening.. But thats why high currency and well respected countries are helping and doing "Charities", "Help Funds", and collecting Donations to help recover and relieve people, people from the damage of what happens around the world, etc.. It takes a heart and a great person to open up and help those who are desperately in need.

War? you wanna talk about war on a forum? dude, War is basically in general sick, disgusting, crucial and life ending in basically all forms (Mentally, Physically, etc..) the things that goes on in war and how you take actions to what comes around and about you. Perhaps you should consider learning more about war and realizing that war is never fun, is never cool or interesting, and no one can really sit down and honestly explain and describe to the world why "War" happens. So, lets end the whole "War" topic right here, and as far as recruiting children and stuff, thats OLD maan, yes it still goes on some places, but you hardly ever notice or see it, as the world takes spins and changes over time.

Living in a Rich Country.. Please describe to me what a "Rich Country" is to you. Yes, Canada and the United States, and many other countries are all high in currency and stuff, but.. you gotta look at things more for a individual persons perspective, a country is only as rich as the government will allow it to be, meaning by that, the government of a country must and or well should be well educated and be able to maintain and do whats right for a country. Wither it be decreasing the "Land" to add more buildings and more places for jobs, homes, and ways to bring people together, Or wither it be doing "Country Support-Allie" meaning by that my good friend.. do GOOD DEEDS for other countries so that they can see and support that one country in return. "It's easy spending money, But making and maintaining money.. Is the hassle"

Education.. I'd really rather not talk about education, but all i can and will say is. EVERYONE from EVERYWHERE has and deserves the right for a properly maintained, well structured education.. Schools, Colleges, Universities, all those support students as they all watch ones grades and watch how one will act and respond to the environment around them.

To the point of my reply from here is.. We all get sad, and we all get depressed. But, what makes depression and sadness serious is how we all individually see and take things. Fuck, things can be as simple as snapping your fingers to solve, and some can be heart breaking to hear and take in. Depression is caused from almost EVERYTHING now a days.. and from how i personally see and take depression, it's all depending how one takes the matter and who is around that one person to support/help them.

[Obscene Eyedeas]

Ok lets recap ok so ur saying i have no right to be depressed because someone out their has it worse then me? YOU ARE WRONG because ya i do care what happens in the 3rd world and places like it.

In fact i have fundraised for it numerous times and continue too. I am part of an organization that does work in those countries its called THE RED CROSS you know what that is dont u? and i will be traveling there to giv medical aid when i am old enough. I have wrote numerous articles for online magazines for aid and i am also going to sign up for the cheyrnoble initiative and bring children from there to live with me for the summers when i am old enough. Oh and i also donate my own money to appeals for aid for those in need.

So ya, NOW do i qualify as being aware enough and active enough in helping out those who have it worse then me? Am i allowed to be down and complain about my own life yet?

[DrkZ90]

ok. so your boyfriend or girlfriend broke up with you. be sad. but why do people think they are depressed at that? or if a few kids pick on you at school.

i am sad sometimes just like everyone else but there are starving babies and families in south america, africa and asia that have way worse lifes than you as you at least have xcess to the internet and live in a comfortable rich country like america, australia, canada and europe and britain were your not recruited by child armies 2 shoot your parents and you have freedom of speech most of the time

you have operatunities to go to school and college and if u work hard enough become a doctor or lawyer and earn a good salary. u have protection from the police.

some people in the world have no hope at a good life and only live 2 eat scraps and drink dirty water so remember that next time u are cryin over your bf/gf leaving you

I'm just being brutally honest here

So, since I'm from a third world country in South America I'm allowed to be depressed? BS!

"child armies"? don't you ever dare to call terrorist groups like the ones here armies unless you've been here and suffered in any way from them.

I actually feel sorry for you, you seem to be a very materialist person... just FYI, MONEY DOESN'T BUY HAPPINESS... just because you are from a developed country doesn't mean you MUST be happy, cause that's simply not true...

Also, we have plenty of freedom of speech, thank you very much, that's probably not true in countries like Venezuela with the tyrant they have as president but that's a whole different story...

One last thing, let me tell you something... most poor people are poor because they want to... because instead of saving money and getting better jobs, they are conformist with whatever job they get as long as they get money to eat and drink beer, that and the fact that poor families are usually the ones with the most kids...

[BlackBetty]

Also, FYI: I am in Junior Civitans club at my school and I do help the people in need in our area and sourounding.!

[Cloud]

I'm just being brutally honest here
Your also being brutally Stupid and arrogant
actually get your facts right before storming in here accusing people

So how about instead of pissing everyone off why dont you go read a book so you actually understand the shit your talking about

Depression can actaully be diagnosed
so just because there are people in worse shit
doesnt mean people can be free from depression
and theres alot worse shit to trigger it than a break up

And judging by that first comment you have no clue what its actuaully liked to be bullied
so also go read up on that to before coming here to try and wage an argument against the people who actually know what were talking about

[Ryhanna]

HEY! lay off him guys! Don't be so goonish...

When I read that, he definatley could have worded it better, but it sounded more like he was asking why people worry about themselves so much, when there are people in third world countries dying of starvation. Which is a fair question... why do we? Because we're people.... thats human beings for you. Yeah, we feel sorry for them, but we have our own lives too. It's feelings. We feel happy, or sad... or in between.

EDIT: EW EW EW! Why did I stick up for you?!?!? I just read your other threatds and I got the wrong end of what you were saying here! I thought it was just innocent curiousity but EW! It sounds to me like any opinion you don't agree with is BAD!

[Rutherford The Brave]

Its called being a baby. We are so ignorant we only see how bad it is for us.

[Ryhanna]

Not really being a baby, tho.....? more being human than anything

[Rutherford The Brave]

Not really being a baby, tho.....? more being human than anything

No I call it being a baby: shut up, put your big person pants are and stop crying.

[Ryhanna]

No I call it being a baby: shut up, put your big person pants are and stop crying.

*bring it on*
No, I won't shut up. Just because there are worse off people in the world doesn't mean we can't have problems too. It's part of life, so "Put your big person pants are and stop crying" whatever the hell that means...

[Hatsune Miku]

*bring it on*
No, I won't shut up. Just because there are worse off people in the world doesn't mean we can't have problems too. It's part of life, so "Put your big person pants are and stop crying" whatever the hell that means...

We all know Gregs gonna win this argument so just end it.

[Rutherford The Brave]

*bring it on*
No, I won't shut up. Just because there are worse off people in the world doesn't mean we can't have problems too. It's part of life, so "Put your big person pants are and stop crying" whatever the hell that means...

My mommy wont let me go out because she has a legitimate reason to not trust me, my life is awful.. Blah Blah Blah. You can have problems, but doesn't mean someone who give two shits if you start complaining.

[Ryhanna]

We all know Gregs gonna win this argument so just end it.

No, he won't. I don't lose arguments. Especially when I'm right.

Greg, just because you apparently don't have problems doesn't mean other people don't have major issues.
Sick people, poor people, victims of crime, bullying victims - These people don't have problems? Get a reality check and grow up

[Rutherford The Brave]

No, he won't. I don't lose arguments. Especially when I'm right.

Greg, just because you apparently don't have problems doesn't mean other people don't have major issues.
Sick people, poor people, victims of crime, bullying victims - These people don't have problems? Get a reality check and grow up

I've had my fair share of issues. But begging for pity and notice because you think you have it rough is stupid. I'm not denying that people have issues, but part of being an adult is not fucking wallowing over whats bad. Jeez, I hate pity cases. Its not the fact that your being made fun of or you are poor. Its sad that you haven't done shit to change it. Seriously, if your poor and you need money get a job. Do not apply at one place then when they turn you down say its impossible. Do the fucking work, then you wont have anything to complain about, you need to embody the change you want to see. End of discussion.

[Ryhanna]

I've had my fair share of issues. But begging for pity and notice because you think you have it rough is stupid. I'm not denying that people have issues, but part of being an adult is not fucking wallowing over whats bad. Jeez, I hate pity cases. Its not the fact that your being made fun of or you are poor. Its sad that you haven't done shit to change it. Seriously, if your poor and you need money get a job. Do not apply at one place then when they turn you down say its impossible. Do the fucking work, then you wont have anything to complain about, you need to embody the change you want to see. End of discussion.

I personally see what you mean, because I don't let things get to me (hence this conversation) But part of being a person is having the chance to be upset. I don't think they're begging for pity, I think they're just trying to deal with it. We aren't adults. We're teenagers. And they're trying to change it, but they don't know how. Thats why people wollow into self harm and such. Thats the point I was trying to get across.

[Rutherford The Brave]

I personally see what you mean, because I don't let things get to me (hence this conversation) But part of being a person is having the chance to be upset. I don't think they're begging for pity, I think they're just trying to deal with it. We aren't adults. We're teenagers. And they're trying to change it, but they don't know how. Thats why people wollow into self harm and such. Thats the point I was trying to get across.

Understandable and respectable. I just refuse at this point to give much of anything about it. In fact I just made a change for myself because I was done being a child. My point will stand now with me. We are becoming adults, and we should act as such.

[CaptainObvious]

In spite of the wild stupidity of the first post... this forum needs more tough love, there's too much validation of and wallowing in self-pity around the psych ward imo.

[Kahn]

In spite of the wild stupidity of the first post... this forum needs more tough love, there's too much validation of and wallowing in self-pity around the psych ward imo.

I agree. +Rep for actually being Captain Obvious.

[Ryhanna]

What I'm trying to say is that these people trying to find a way to deal with it. This is meant to be a help and advice site, you a lot of you guys aren't being helpful anymore, and I have some ADVICE for you: Start using the site properly or get off. No use wasting your time here, telling depressed people they should get over it because worse things are happening in the world.

[Zephyr]

This post is meant to educate, not bash:

Here's some basics from my own experiences as a manic-depressive and studying abnormal psych:

Mental illness isn't just a switch that you toggle on and off. When you're feeling like you don't even belong on this earth, nobody else's problems even matter. You feel so worthless and helpless sometimes that you'd rather just die. You don't care what opportunities are out there for you, you don't care if you're better off than others, you'd rather just disappear or die since you feel the way that you do.

There is a huge difference in feeling sad and being depressed.

Major Depressive Disorder: involving multiple episodes of severe experience with depression, including feelings of worthlessness, disturbances in bodily functions such as sleep, loss of interest, and inability to experience pleasure. Persists at least 2 weeks, separated by at least 2 months without depression.

Dysthimia: involving persistently depressed mood, with low self-esteem, withdrawal, pessimism, or despair, present for at least 2 years, with no absence of symptoms for more than 2 months.

And those are only a couple of several mood disorders.

And the initial purpose of this site was teen-to-teen advice and help on coping with mental illnesses, and also as an online support group for these people, especially if they feel like they have nobody else to turn to. I know this site has helped me in finding the strength to get real-life help as well as members offering support through my bad times, and I know it's done so for others as well.

[Sapphire]

People suffering mental health problems have trouble with their own experiences and views of themselves. Of course they need support and not constant criticism. But they won't get over their problems if they are not pushed to make the right changes in their lives.

[Ryhanna]

Everyone in the world is equal. And while others issues may seem insignificant compared to others, it's still real and HUGE to them. I should have just said something like that in the first place actually... that makes mroe sense than what I was saying before. Sorry, guys, and Greg especially. I'm jus letting my own problems get the best of me, a rare but very real occurance for me...

[StateRights]

ok.. im sorry for those who are abused badly.. thats horrible and i can understand it for that.

but for most other 'issues' like your boyfriend or girlfriend breaking up with you? a few kids dont like you at school? your crush doesnt want you? give me a break. We all go through crap like this so why do you think you should be depressed when theres people a lot worse off then you? And no i was using poor countries as an EXAMPLE. What about homless people in yr own country? If u have a strong personality you would suck it up and deal with it.

it should actually make u happy theres people worse off than you! lifes not all that bad

i knew a homeless person back at home about 3 years ago and guess what? he didnt cry about it. he didnt cut his wrists or become an alcoholic. he was a veteran of the gulf war. now that is what i call a strong person. people should get over themselves.

[Kaius]

People like you should definitely get over themselves. For christ's sake kid, don't ever become a counsellor :/ What you're failing to understand here is that things that happen to people affect each and every one of us differently. What upsets you may not upset someone else. and vice versa. You have no idea what people do when their not in public. The strongest of people cry, their human. They just cover up, wait until their alone and the mask comes off.

Ok, so yes. Say my girlfriend left me, and what YOU didn't know was that she may have been the only person i had due to other circumstances. Would you judge me for crying if you didn't know the full story? Theres a story to everything, and even if there isn't, its their own personality and mentality, they will handle things differently than other people might.

People here along with myself have been through a lot more than you'd think for our ages. But we dont judge those who are more easily upset, or need a little bit of help to put things to the past. We're all here to help eachother, not bash. Threads like this are unneeded and can really put people off of getting help because of arrogant and ignorant views such as this. Anyone with the tiniest of common sense would know this.

[BlackBetty]

ok.. im sorry for those who are abused badly.. thats horrible and i can understand it for that.

but for most other 'issues' like your boyfriend or girlfriend breaking up with you? a few kids dont like you at school? your crush doesnt want you? give me a break. We all go through crap like this so why do you think you should be depressed when theres people a lot worse off then you? And no i was using poor countries as an EXAMPLE. What about homless people in yr own country? If u have a strong personality you would suck it up and deal with it.

it should actually make u happy theres people worse off than you! lifes not all that bad

i knew a homeless person back at home about 3 years ago and guess what? he didnt cry about it. he didnt cut his wrists or become an alcoholic. he was a veteran of the gulf war. now that is what i call a strong person. people should get over themselves.

It is people like YOU that cause people to cut them selves. Because you do not know what the fuck you are talking about and running around telling people this shit. You need to keep your fucking mouth shut and buy a fucking clue.

Most noobs keep there mouth shut unlike you did untill they actually get a reputation. Instead of you earning rep, your loosing it if you want to know why all that red is beside of you.

And the reason some people get upset about there boyfriend or something is because that it the only person that may love them! Like i've said before, there is programs out there to help the poor people, but they want go get the help they need.

[Ryhanna]

ok.. im sorry for those who are abused badly.. thats horrible and i can understand it for that.

but for most other 'issues' like your boyfriend or girlfriend breaking up with you? a few kids dont like you at school? your crush doesnt want you? give me a break. We all go through crap like this so why do you think you should be depressed when theres people a lot worse off then you? And no i was using poor countries as an EXAMPLE. What about homless people in yr own country? If u have a strong personality you would suck it up and deal with it.

it should actually make u happy theres people worse off than you! lifes not all that bad

i knew a homeless person back at home about 3 years ago and guess what? he didnt cry about it. he didnt cut his wrists or become an alcoholic. he was a veteran of the gulf war. now that is what i call a strong person. people should get over themselves.

Now THIS I ctually agree with.

Although they can't help it, people get depressed over stupid things like boyfriends and girlfriends. These things really shouldn't be a reason for depression or self harm, but unfortnatley they are.

[BlackBetty]

Now THIS I ctually agree with.

Although they can't help it, people get depressed over stupid things like boyfriends and girlfriends. These things really shouldn't be a reason for depression or self harm, but unfortnatley they are.

Are you taking up for him, or you going to bash him? You can't do both.

[CaptainObvious]

Most noobs keep there mouth shut unlike you did untill they actually get a reputation. Instead of you earning rep, your loosing it if you want to know why all that red is beside of you.

Lots of us really don't give a fuck about rep, for the record. I've been speaking my mind since the day I got here... though apparently it's working out decently.

[BlackBetty]

Lots of us really don't give a fuck about rep, for the record. I've been speaking my mind since the day I got here... though apparently it's working out decently.

You may speak your mind, but you not as ignorant as the OP. ^_^

[Ryhanna]

Are you taking up for him, or you going to bash him? You can't do both.

I think i've made my point rather clear. People with real problems actually HAVE something to complain about. People who get all upset because this one person doesn't like them and stupid stuff like that really shouldn't feel depressed. But there mind is telling to feel that way, it's not their fault.

[BlackBetty]

I think i've made my point rather clear. People with real problems actually HAVE something to complain about. People who get all upset because this one person doesn't like them and stupid stuff like that really shouldn't feel depressed. But there mind is telling to feel that way, it's not their fault.

Your right! But when someone looses someone close, then I think they should be able to be upset about it.

[Hatsune Miku]

ok.. im sorry for those who are abused badly.. thats horrible and i can understand it for that.

but for most other 'issues' like your boyfriend or girlfriend breaking up with you? a few kids dont like you at school? your crush doesnt want you? give me a break. We all go through crap like this so why do you think you should be depressed when theres people a lot worse off then you? And no i was using poor countries as an EXAMPLE. What about homless people in yr own country? If u have a strong personality you would suck it up and deal with it.

it should actually make u happy theres people worse off than you! lifes not all that bad

i knew a homeless person back at home about 3 years ago and guess what? he didnt cry about it. he didnt cut his wrists or become an alcoholic. he was a veteran of the gulf war. now that is what i call a strong person. people should get over themselves.

Everything affects everybody differently. If my girlfriend broke up with me of course im going to cry. What other girl would want to go out with a boy who cuts himself? None (That I know of) People never tell the whole story, no matter what people say there's always more to something.

And for that homeless guy. He can choose to do something about it, there's programs and stuff that homeless people can do to get back on their feet. But apparently he chose not to.

[Ryhanna]

Your right! But when someone looses someone close, then I think they should be able to be upset about it.

yes! thats what I've been saying lol just with different words... :)

[StateRights]

People like you should definitely get over themselves. For christ's sake kid, don't ever become a counsellor :/ What you're failing to understand here is that things that happen to people affect each and every one of us differently. What upsets you may not upset someone else. and vice versa. You have no idea what people do when their not in public. The strongest of people cry, their human. They just cover up, wait until their alone and the mask comes off.

Ok, so yes. Say my girlfriend left me, and what YOU didn't know was that she may have been the only person i had due to other circumstances. Would you judge me for crying if you didn't know the full story? Theres a story to everything, and even if there isn't, its their own personality and mentality, they will handle things differently than other people might.

People here along with myself have been through a lot more than you'd think for our ages. But we dont judge those who are more easily upset, or need a little bit of help to put things to the past. We're all here to help eachother, not bash. Threads like this are unneeded and can really put people off of getting help because of arrogant and ignorant views such as this. Anyone with the tiniest of common sense would know this.
With all the emotion youve seemingly displayed in that post it seems your exactly the kind of person im speaking about. so your girlfriend left you. yeah everyone will be sad when their lover leaves them. but life moves on!!! you can find another girlfriend. i mean your a teen breaking up is inevitable i mean what do you expect your going to stay with her forever? im sorry that it takes people this long 2 realize that life isnt a fairytale. again. i am not talking about people who get upset. everyone gets upset when something bad happens. ive been upset for being bullied and my exes breaking up with me. but what I DONT do is go trying to kill myself by trying to jump off a building or slitting my wrists because of it. i know im going to get sheet for this, but in my opinion that is just pathetic.

and you live in the united kingdom. have u been drafted by a child army? have u watched your parents and family brutally murdered by a gang or army? r u scared of your police to the point u avoid them like the plague in case they will kidnap and torture u? No. that doesnt happen there. just like it doesnt happen in all the other western democracies.

people who go to the xtremes because of stuff like this have weak personalities and mentalities. my examples of people in xtreme situations are relevent because the human mind is supposed to be able to endure crap. millions of ppl survive worse on a DAILY basis!!!! your also a male so u should have additional mental strength. omg. oh and yes i would judge u. just like id judge anyone and how im judging now. people in life are judgemental. its a fact of life. ive been judged in life too. but i dont cry about it.

Most noobs keep there mouth shut unlike you did untill they actually get a reputation. Instead of you earning rep, your loosing it if you want to know why all that red is beside of you.
i am exercizing my constitutionally guarenteed freedom of speech fyi
i joined this forum hoping for people who thought rationally rather then emotionally but xcept a few i havent met many. and i know im not the smartest, nobody needs to point that out. but these are my views. deal with it.

[Ryhanna]

With all the emotion youve seemingly displayed in that post it seems your exactly the kind of person im speaking about. so your girlfriend left you. yeah everyone will be sad when their lover leaves them. but life moves on!!! you can find another girlfriend. i mean your a teen breaking up is inevitable i mean what do you expect your going to stay with her forever? im sorry that it takes people this long 2 realize that life isnt a fairytale. again. i am not talking about people who get upset. everyone gets upset when something bad happens. ive been upset for being bullied and my exes breaking up with me. but what I DONT do is go trying to kill myself by trying to jump off a building or slitting my wrists because of it. i know im going to get sheet for this, but in my opinion that is just pathetic.

and you live in the united kingdom. have u been drafted by a child army? have u watched your parents and family brutally murdered by a gang or army? r u scared of your police to the point u avoid them like the plague in case they will kidnap and torture u? No. that doesnt happen there. just like it doesnt happen in all the other western democracies.

people who go to the xtremes because of stuff like this have weak personalities and mentalities. my examples of people in xtreme situations are relevent because the human mind is supposed to be able to endure crap. millions of ppl survive worse on a DAILY basis!!!! your also a male so u should have additional mental strength. omg. oh and yes i would judge u. just like id judge anyone and how im judging now. people in life are judgemental. its a fact of life. ive been judged in life too. but i dont cry about it.


i am exercizing my constitutionally guarenteed freedom of speech fyi
i joined this forum hoping for people who thought rationally rather then emotionally but xcept a few i havent met many. and i know im not the smartest, nobody needs to point that out. but these are my views. deal with it.

Get over yourself. Just because people are better off than some other people doesn't take away our right to feel the way we do. If you can voice your offensive opinions, then we can feel however we want to.

[BlackBetty]

With all the emotion youve seemingly displayed in that post it seems your exactly the kind of person im speaking about. so your girlfriend left you. yeah everyone will be sad when their lover leaves them. but life moves on!!! you can find another girlfriend. i mean your a teen breaking up is inevitable i mean what do you expect your going to stay with her forever? im sorry that it takes people this long 2 realize that life isnt a fairytale. again. i am not talking about people who get upset. everyone gets upset when something bad happens. ive been upset for being bullied and my exes breaking up with me. but what I DONT do is go trying to kill myself by trying to jump off a building or slitting my wrists because of it. i know im going to get sheet for this, but in my opinion that is just pathetic.

and you live in the united kingdom. have u been drafted by a child army? have u watched your parents and family brutally murdered by a gang or army? r u scared of your police to the point u avoid them like the plague in case they will kidnap and torture u? No. that doesnt happen there. just like it doesnt happen in all the other western democracies.

people who go to the xtremes because of stuff like this have weak personalities and mentalities. my examples of people in xtreme situations are relevent because the human mind is supposed to be able to endure crap. millions of ppl survive worse on a DAILY basis!!!! your also a male so u should have additional mental strength. omg. oh and yes i would judge u. just like id judge anyone and how im judging now. people in life are judgemental. its a fact of life. ive been judged in life too. but i dont cry about it.


i am exercizing my constitutionally guarenteed freedom of speech fyi
i joined this forum hoping for people who thought rationally rather then emotionally but xcept a few i havent met many. and i know im not the smartest, nobody needs to point that out. but these are my views. deal with it.


You may be excersing your "freedom of speech" or what ever the fuck you want to call it. All you do is making a fool out of your self while we are having a good laugh...:yes::yeah:

[Kaius]

With all the emotion youve seemingly displayed in that post it seems your exactly the kind of person im speaking about. so your girlfriend left you. yeah everyone will be sad when their lover leaves them. but life moves on!!! you can find another girlfriend. i mean your a teen breaking up is inevitable i mean what do you expect your going to stay with her forever? im sorry that it takes people this long 2 realize that life isnt a fairytale. again.
Dont you dare generalise me. You may not have had to deal with things in your past but it does not mean the rest of us have not.
i am not talking about people who get upset. everyone gets upset when something bad happens. ive been upset for being bullied and my exes breaking up with me. Life Isn't a fairytale no. and it never will be. You just said in your post everyone gets upset, yeah that may be all it is, but it might be so that you need some advice/support to help you get over it. But what I DONT do is go trying to kill myself by trying to jump off a building or slitting my wrists because of it. i know im going to get sheet for this, but in my opinion that is just pathetic. Your clearly stereotyping also. Not everyone takes the suicidal approach to things.

and you live in the united kingdom. have u been drafted by a child army? have u watched your parents and family brutally murdered by a gang or army? r u scared of your police to the point u avoid them like the plague in case they will kidnap and torture u? No. that doesnt happen there. just like it doesnt happen in all the other western democracies. No, that stuff has not happened. but alot of other stuff does. Just because we dont live in war torn countries does not mean we arnt entitled to get upset.

people who go to the xtremes because of stuff like this have weak personalities and mentalities. my examples of people in xtreme situations are relevent because the human mind is supposed to be able to endure crap. millions of ppl survive worse on a DAILY basis!!!! your also a male so u should have additional mental strength. omg. Just because Im a guy doesnt mean im not allowed to have my own feelings and emotions or have 'additional mental strength'. Get the fuck over yourself and start to think rationally before you make yourself even more disliked than you are now.
oh and yes i would judge u. just like id judge anyone and how im judging now. people in life are judgemental. its a fact of life. ive been judged in life too. but i dont cry about it. If you've been judged in life, you know what its like. You may have been able to cope with and handle that, but a lot of other people cannot


i am exercizing my constitutionally guarenteed freedom of speech fyi
i joined this forum hoping for people who thought rationally rather then emotionally but xcept a few i havent met many. Have you listened to a word i said? Clearly not. This is a HELP forum for teen to teen advice. Not a forum for telling people to get over themselves because of extremist views such as yours. and i know im not the smartest, nobody needs to point that out. but these are my views. deal with it. Yes you can have your own opinion, but so can we. Yes there are people worse off than us. I don't doubt that. But just because there are, does not mean we are not allowed to voice our own feelings and emotions. The example i used in my last post clearly demonstrated that, and you were ignorant enough to ignore that.

Your views are your views, Ours are ours. Get over it.

You may be excersing your "freedom of speech" or what ever the fuck you want to call it. All you do is making a fool out of your self while we are having a good laugh...:yes::yeah:

Lol, you have that pretty right John.

[StateRights]

Get over yourself. Just because people are better off than some other people doesn't take away our right to feel the way we do. If you can voice your offensive opinions, then we can feel however we want to.
way to miss my point.

You may be excersing your "freedom of speech" or what ever the fuck you want to call it. All you do is making a fool out of your self while we are having a good laugh...
Funny that.. must be EXACTLY why people are acting like i took a piss in their cheerios and got bad rep. yep. such a GENIUS statement.

Have you listened to a word i said? Clearly not. This is a HELP forum for teen to teen advice. Not a forum for telling people to get over themselves because of extremist views such as yours. Your clearly stereotyping also. Not everyone takes the suicidal approach to things. Life Isn't a fairytale no. and it never will be. You just said in your post everyone gets upset, yeah that may be all it is, but it might be so that you need some advice/support to help you get over it. Yes you can have your own opinion, but so can we. Yes there are people worse off than us. I don't doubt that. But just because there are, does not mean we are not allowed to voice our own feelings and emotions. The example i used in my last post clearly demonstrated that, and you were ignorant enough to ignore that. If you've been judged in life, you know what its like. You may have been able to cope with and handle that, but a lot of other people cannot. Just because Im a guy doesnt mean im not allowed to have my own feelings and emotions or have 'additional mental strength'. Get the fuck over yourself and start to think rationally before you make yourself even more disliked than you are now.
yes it is a help forum. way to point that one out smart one. but from what i observed many of you arent asking for "help" many of you are drowning in self pity over the most stupid fking reasons. and not to call you stupid as i dont sink to emotive levels like that.. but can you comprehend a SINGLE thing of what this thread is saying? i am NOT talking about people who get upset and i am not even talking about opinions. we all do. many 'depressed' people dont just voice their opinions. they go into massive bitchfests over it. not so much on this forum. but in real life too. "oh my girlfriend left me and now my life will suck now brb im gonna slit my wrists" wah wah wah.. coming from an "emo" boy who has middle class parents and lives in a nice suburb and goes to a private school. before you tell me that is an isolated incident it happens REGULARLY and it annoys the hell out of me and other people. They need 2 man up and get over it.

and kid.. look at my rep.. its red.. do you think i actually care what a forum really thinks of me? but then again next your gonna tell me that there your only close friends and that i should be respectful or something. blah. :rolleyes: im speaking the harsh truth. i am what many members of society really think of this sort of thing xcept i have the guts to be vocal. all i have to say is.. man up. move forward. people go through worse sheet, and handle it much better then u breaking up with your girlfriend. that "poor me poor me pour me a drink" attitude wont get u far in life.

have u even attempted suicide? because it obviously didnt go too far if u tried. ur still alive. that could either mean 3 things

1. u were too cowardly
2. u were attention seeking
3. yr life.. really isnt.. THAT.. bad.. :O

[Kaius]

Yes, i can understand that. But as i said in the first post i made there are underlying factors a lot of the time. Clearly you are not going to let other people sound their views in this thread, so i see no point in replying to your childish rants any more.

[Sapphire]

Tbh, I agree with what StateRights is trying to say in this thread.
The people who have no mental health problems and declare themselves to be depressed and/or suicidal when they have just broken up with their girlfriend/boyfriend of a month or had an argument with a friend or something equally normal and run of the mill annoy me no end.
I mean you cannot actually be depressed if you have felt upset for a day or three. It is not possible. To be suicidal (without complicating factors) over something like that is also ridiculous.
your also a male so u should have additional mental strength.Lol, and where is the evidence to say that men are stronger mentally then women?

have u even attempted suicide? because it obviously didnt go too far if u tried. ur still alive. that could either mean 3 things

1. u were too cowardly
2. u were attention seeking
3. yr life.. really isnt.. THAT.. bad.. :O
Ok, I have a problem with this.
First of all, suicide is not a courageous act - the act is cowardly.
Secondly, these are not the only reasons why people who attempt suicide survive.
Thirdly, where do "cries for help" fit in with what you've said? It is different from attention seeking since it is an attempt to show people how much you are struggling so you can get some help as opposed to just wanting the attention of those around you.

[Rutherford The Brave]

way to miss my point.


Funny that.. must be EXACTLY why people are acting like i took a piss in their cheerios and got bad rep. yep. such a GENIUS statement.


yes it is a help forum. way to point that one out smart one. but from what i observed many of you arent asking for "help" many of you are drowning in self pity over the most stupid fking reasons. and not to call you stupid as i dont sink to emotive levels like that.. but can you comprehend a SINGLE thing of what this thread is saying? i am NOT talking about people who get upset and i am not even talking about opinions. we all do. many 'depressed' people dont just voice their opinions. they go into massive bitchfests over it. not so much on this forum. but in real life too. "oh my girlfriend left me and now my life will suck now brb im gonna slit my wrists" wah wah wah.. coming from an "emo" boy who has middle class parents and lives in a nice suburb and goes to a private school. before you tell me that is an isolated incident it happens REGULARLY and it annoys the hell out of me and other people. They need 2 man up and get over it.

and kid.. look at my rep.. its red.. do you think i actually care what a forum really thinks of me? but then again next your gonna tell me that there your only close friends and that i should be respectful or something. blah. :rolleyes: im speaking the harsh truth. i am what many members of society really think of this sort of thing xcept i have the guts to be vocal. all i have to say is.. man up. move forward. people go through worse sheet, and handle it much better then u breaking up with your girlfriend. that "poor me poor me pour me a drink" attitude wont get u far in life.

have u even attempted suicide? because it obviously didnt go too far if u tried. ur still alive. that could either mean 3 things

1. u were too cowardly
2. u were attention seeking
3. yr life.. really isnt.. THAT.. bad.. :O

So what if people do what they do? As long as they complain I do not care. I had the guts to do it along time ago, but that doesn't change people. Yeah they will complain, I'd rather they not but when things get bad its our instinct. You on the other hand have the tendency to stick your head up your ass to find the answer. You think that everyone comes from a suburban home, with parents who work and are middle class. You think that the majority of kids here have it so well. Just take a moment and look into reality, it ain't as easy as you proclaim it to be. I say that they should get over themselves but I understand what its like to come from a position where things look bleek. I turned it around.

Also this whole, I'm better than everyone else mentality won't get you far in life.

[MysticalBurrito]

ok.. im sorry for those who are abused badly.. thats horrible and i can understand it for that.

but for most other 'issues' like your boyfriend or girlfriend breaking up with you? a few kids dont like you at school? your crush doesnt want you? give me a break. We all go through crap like this so why do you think you should be depressed when theres people a lot worse off then you? And no i was using poor countries as an EXAMPLE. What about homless people in yr own country? If u have a strong personality you would suck it up and deal with it.

it should actually make u happy theres people worse off than you! lifes not all that bad

i knew a homeless person back at home about 3 years ago and guess what? he didnt cry about it. he didnt cut his wrists or become an alcoholic. he was a veteran of the gulf war. now that is what i call a strong person. people should get over themselves.
Not everyone is strong like that. Get the fuck over yourself.

[nick]

Love is a very powerful emotion. Just because we're teenagers doesnt mean we cant fall in love and when that goes wrong it can cause very serious emotional problems. No number of people saying that its silly to talk about getting depressed by that is going to change that. People kill themselves every day, all over the world, because of failed love, its no joking matter. Also some people may have made a serious attempt at suicide only to be discovered and saved by some circumstance beyond their control.

[Sapphire]

Nick, just because teenagers have romantic relationships with each other doesn't mean that they love each other. The ones who are together for a long time will have built that love for each other but the ones who have been an item for a month, for example, won't have built that love.
It is the latter type that are annoying as hell when they incorrectly use the term "depressed" and go all suicidal. They are the ones that deserve to be shaken by the ankles in the hope that it will shake some sense into them.

[Mental]

Nick, just because teenagers have romantic relationships with each other doesn't mean that they love each other. The ones who are together for a long time will have built that love for each other but the ones who have been an item for a month, for example, won't have built that love.
It is the latter type that are annoying as hell when they incorrectly use the term "depressed" and go all suicidal. They are the ones that deserve to be shaken by the ankles in the hope that it will shake some sense into them.
Gotta kinda agree with State and Sapphire on the bit about boyfriends/girlfriends. Breaking up is a terrible experience, whether you've been together 1 month or 1 year, but a lot of people don't seem to realise that teenage relationships very rarely work out. You're still growing as a person, and changing. You still have a whole life to live through and meet new people.. I just can't comprehend how some people think their 'high school sweetheart' is for then and forever. And yes, I was once a deluded 16 year old who though that my relationship would last for years. My girlfriend and I were very close and she was one of the only people I could rely on, but of course it took a very stupid mistake to realise that we were far from a perfect relationship and that people change. It's a fact of life.

It's very upsetting, but I must stress that some people do indeed need to get their act together. If you "love" your girlfriend or boyfriend at 13-19 that much that you NEED them, then it's not love. It's emotional dependence, and I think there's underlying reasons if people feel the need to go into depression or commit suicide if this person leaves them, so it's not proper love as Sapphire says.

[BlackBetty]

way to miss my point.


Funny that.. must be EXACTLY why people are acting like i took a piss in their cheerios and got bad rep. yep. such a GENIUS statement.


yes it is a help forum. way to point that one out smart one. but from what i observed many of you arent asking for "help" many of you are drowning in self pity over the most stupid fking reasons. and not to call you stupid as i dont sink to emotive levels like that.. but can you comprehend a SINGLE thing of what this thread is saying? i am NOT talking about people who get upset and i am not even talking about opinions. we all do. many 'depressed' people dont just voice their opinions. they go into massive bitchfests over it. not so much on this forum. but in real life too. "oh my girlfriend left me and now my life will suck now brb im gonna slit my wrists" wah wah wah.. coming from an "emo" boy who has middle class parents and lives in a nice suburb and goes to a private school. before you tell me that is an isolated incident it happens REGULARLY and it annoys the hell out of me and other people. They need 2 man up and get over it.

and kid.. look at my rep.. its red.. do you think i actually care what a forum really thinks of me? but then again next your gonna tell me that there your only close friends and that i should be respectful or something. blah. :rolleyes: im speaking the harsh truth. i am what many members of society really think of this sort of thing xcept i have the guts to be vocal. all i have to say is.. man up. move forward. people go through worse sheet, and handle it much better then u breaking up with your girlfriend. that "poor me poor me pour me a drink" attitude wont get u far in life.

have u even attempted suicide? because it obviously didnt go too far if u tried. ur still alive. that could either mean 3 things

1. u were too cowardly
2. u were attention seeking
3. yr life.. really isnt.. THAT.. bad.. :O


Thanks for reasurring me that i'm smart!! Do us all a favor and shut up with your stupid threads talking shit about people. :yes:

[2D]

Fucking a. StateRights is a ballsy motherfucker. And that alone deserves some recognition. I would +rep you right now man, but I can't.

This thread really summarizes my opinion on highschool relationships. Now, I'm off to find some other people to rep so I can give him some.

Cheers

[The Batman]

It's ok to disagree with this guy but if any insults start flying around infractions will be given and this thread locked this is the only warning you're getting.

[Hyper]

I'll read the replies later for amusement

But I agree a lot.. All of these ''My gf/bf who I LOVE BROKE UP'' and my ''parents suck/fight all the time'' shit and so on and on and on and more common teenage angst crap on top of it.. Well why? Why are these things so.

Why are some people so affected by some things that others consider to be insignificant?

People are indeed different but in this case its mostly due to IMMATURITY, LACK OF LIFE EXPERIENCE, NEED FOR ATTENTION, LACKING OF GOOD COPING MECHANISMS and maybe a few more

[BeautifulDisaster]

Relationship break ups can be very harsh and upsetting to go through, yes, others go through worse, but tbh, they are having a problem of their own that affects them, it's due to losing someone who they felt they loved and thought the world of, & now they're gone.
They have every right to be upset and to express that and to cope with it in the way they cope with it.

Parents fighting?
This affects children too.
Very much so.
It can be a seriously damaging environment to be in.

[2D]

They have every right to be upset and to express that and to cope with it in the way they cope with it.

No you don't understand! :3

Sounds like you're saying that cutting and attempting suicide are acceptable ways to cope.

[BeautifulDisaster]

Did I say it was acceptable?
No.

I said how they cope with it is how they cope with it.

& I think I fully do understand, been there, done that.

[BlackBetty]

StateRights has been banned.(!)

[Antares]

Since the OP has been banned and this seems pretty debatelike

Thread :locked: