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Charlotte
May 22nd, 2006, 07:06 PM
According to Plato: The condition of democracy, is an enlightened electorate. In other words, a council, well versed in learning and ethics. Rasied away from the corruptible human influences, these Guardians would be fed censored information, because people should not be exposed to certain things until their intellectual immune system in strong enough to handle it= toxic culture. (feel free to comment on this part, as I know this raises a few issues). These enlightened individuals would choose the best suited leader for the state. Obviously such an incorruptible council isn't possible. Other Plato readers have agreed that the conditions of a true democracy is in fact an enlightened electorate... Bringing us to America's electorate college, here to ensure that the ignorant masses do indeed make "the right decision". (Bear with me, I know I'm being incredibly subjective). So it can be argued that America has never had a true democracy, because of that system, and the fact that the voting-age population has never been compleatly literate. New York State, as well as other states, are still being operated under what can be best classified as Educational Apartheid. And the federal gudielines for literacy is anyone who can A) read a menu at a restuarant B) read the ingredeant label off the back of the product etc. So this finally brings me to my question: What do you guys think? Should we have an electoral college or not? Would we, be better off or not? Feel free to go on a tangent.

redcar
May 22nd, 2006, 07:21 PM
ok i know i am not an American but when the presidential elections are on i with the rest of the world watch it, and the Electoral College is something i disagree with. i feel a democratic government is a government elected by the people for the people with the people.

i think the Electoral College prevents this. like in the 2000 Presidential elections, Al Gore, if memory serves me correctly got more popular votes, i.e. more people wanted him as President than they did Bush. but Bush got more Electoral Votes.

in a democracy its the people who should have the final say.

kolte
May 22nd, 2006, 07:31 PM
I hate the ec. its bullshit.
I think that we should hold elections on popular vote.
its more fair.
if it was that way.
then al gore would have won in 2000
and that would have been kick ass.

Dante
May 24th, 2006, 01:23 PM
For years I thought that the elecotrial college was crap because it wasn;t based on popular vote, but at the last presidential election I noticed that, the pop vote works hand in hand with the elctoral college. When Iw as watching, I noticed that the leading candidate with the most voted, did get that state which gave the electorial college vote. I did not notice it before 2004, however, it still does not make sense that Bush had the least popular votes in 2000 and still became president, things like that doesn't make much sense.