IM Chat Bar

[Lifeguard18]

Ok so people didnt really like my cafe idea i had. i had it locked becuase people where fighting (including me) and having things negative. But when i responded to someone i mentioned a chat bar.

How about a chat bar at the bottom of the page like on facebook? Would people like that?

[The Batman]

No if you want to talk to someone you can pm them. It's not really needed and with the problems we already have with people doing inappropriate things in chat it's just something that will do more harm than good.


I'd bet 20 bucks someone says, "this isn't facebook"

[Sugaree]

You can just PM the person for their MSN/IM address. Simple as that. I don't think anyone is looking to get the site to look like a social network. The idea is good, no doubt, I just think it wouldn't be good for the site in the long run. We might draw new members away if we look too social networky.

[Zero Beat]

I'd bet 20 bucks someone says, "this isn't facebook"

This isnt facebook. Do I get the money?

Its kinda what the chat room is, and if you want to "chat" with someone. PM them.

[Lifeguard18]

No if you want to talk to someone you can pm them. It's not really needed and with the problems we already have with people doing inappropriate things in chat it's just something that will do more harm than good.


I'd bet 20 bucks someone says, "this isn't facebook"

true. but it would relieve the popup message coming up saying "you have a new message click open for it to come up in current page or cancel to close." I find that annoying. lol. and if people want something instant back and i mean like instant if its urgent.

i can see what youre saying. like if something turns out like this:

Someone: Hey
Me: Hey
Someone: Whats up
Me: Not much you?
Someone: Me too. haha. have math homework. Ugh >_<
Me: I also hate math.
Someone: Who doesnt
Me: Math nerds
Someone: haha

theres no need for a private message. If its like this:

Someone: Hey
Me: Hey
Someone: Whats up
Me: Not much. YOu
Someone: Yes there is. I dont know who else to talk to. can i talk to you
about something serious?
Me: Yeah sure. Send me a PM.
Someone: Good idea cause this will be long.

Theres no need to have an IM convo to do that. Take it right to PMming.

So basically its like a win win situation.



And i can see what you guys mean by looking to social networky. Who know, it could come in handy and it cant come in handy. like i said its like a win win situation

[The Batman]

You could just add them to your Instant messenger and talk to them that way.

[Kaleidoscope Eyes]

true. but it would relieve the popup message coming up saying "you have a new message click open for it to come up in current page or cancel to close." I find that annoying. lol.

you can actually change it so you don't get pop-up notifications. INstead, the little notifications things at the top of the page, above "Quick Links" and "Log Out", will be bolded and say something like, "Notifications (1)" or something and when you click it you can see whether it's a PM, friend request, etc.

In your User CP, go to Edit Options, and somewhere about halfway down there's a check box to receive pop-up notifications for PMs. Un-check it and you're good.

[Commander Thor]

you can actually change it so you don't get pop-up notifications. INstead, the little notifications things at the top of the page, above "Quick Links" and "Log Out", will be bolded and say something like, "Notifications (1)" or something and when you click it you can see whether it's a PM, friend request, etc.

In your User CP, go to Edit Options, and somewhere about halfway down there's a check box to receive pop-up notifications for PMs. Un-check it and you're good.

I actually had a party when I found that option a few months ago. Like a literal party.
There was cake and everything....

[Lifeguard18]

You could just add them to your Instant messenger and talk to them that way.

True but you got tothink about who your giving your info to. I don't give out my aim unless I know the person well enough.

[Commander Thor]

Why do you think I have 3 messenger accounts? ;)
My main, personal one that I'm always on has VERY few people from the general intertubes.
My secondary one has my 'good' online friends.
And my 3rd spam one, contains everyone I have JUST met.
It's a nice 3 tier system, I suggest it to anyone afraid of giving their info out.

[The Batman]

I have a few accounts but I only use one and if i meet someone I don't like I know how to block and delete them.

[Antares]

I LIKE this idea!

[-Silence]

Wouldnt it slow down the site like crazy?
I dont know if its just me or not, but the Myspace and Facebook one both slow everything down.

[The Joker]

I always have to exit Firefox whenever someone sends me a FB chat message, so I'd rather not have VT have one as well.

[Giles]

I know this is really predictable, but it isn't facebook. It isn't any form of social networking website, why not just Pm people. Or add them on Msn, aim, yahoo skype or whatever..

[BlackBetty]

To me, it looking like a Social Network site, it would draw more people to it. Think of how many members are on Facebook and Myspace all the time.

[Giles]

To me, it looking like a Social Network site, it would draw more people to it. Think of how many members are on Facebook and Myspace all the time.

Yay... all the more people here to spam and meet people. Instead of providing or seeking help and advice.

[Underground_Network]

Who's going to code this?

VT isn't facebook, at all. VT is a forum. Facebook is a social networking site. There's no need for this whatsoever, and it's not necessarily easy (or possible) to code into vBulletin. Idk how vbulletin works and what can and can't be added to it, but this is unnecessary and will just slow the site down. There's no point to it whatsoever.

I don't even like facebook chat. Just use AIM or MSN or PM people. No need for a chatting system on here outside of the VT chat room (which is already slow as it is).

[BlackBetty]

Yay... all the more people here to spam and meet people. Instead of providing or seeking help and advice.

I didn't say I was for it... I actually hate facebook and myspace... I was just saying.

[Maverick]

Wouldnt it slow down the site like crazy?
I dont know if its just me or not, but the Myspace and Facebook one both slow everything down.Yes it would unless someone paid a couple thousand dollars a year in server hardware to handle the extra load.

[MacMilker]

sure it might not work but im tired of every suggestion there is ppl are always like: "this isnt facebook *blahhh blahhh blahhh* its not a social network site *blahhh blahh*"

its like seriously ik its not facebook, but some of the ideas are pretty good.

i think tht idea is a good one, however i guess it will slow the site down?

[Rainstorm]

Like Anthony said, it costs a lot of money. And slows the site down like FlashChat did

[thrust of trust]

i think a chat bar like facebook is a good idea.makes talking easier.

[Sugaree]

I just don't understand why people just can't get a messenger system like Windows Live or AIM to do this. Besides, it'll be easier on the site if we DIDN'T get this. Whenever I go on Facebook, the chat bar slows down every single thing I'm doing. As Ant said, unless someone is willing enough to cough out a few thousand in server cost for the load, we won't be getting it. Besides, we will draw members away who are looking for advice and start getting members interesting in "just chatting" or even pedophiles.

I don't see why we NEED to look like a social network. This is a forum to get advice and give advice. Sure, we have other discussions, but this is because we need to keep things balanced. We are here to help those in need and to discuss current issues/subjects that interest us. We aren't here to be a social network site. I don't see why this is so hard to get through people's heads.

[Lifeguard18]

I just don't understand why people just can't get a messenger system like Windows Live or AIM to do this. Besides, it'll be easier on the site if we DIDN'T get this. Whenever I go on Facebook, the chat bar slows down every single thing I'm doing. As Ant said, unless someone is willing enough to cough out a few thousand in server cost for the load, we won't be getting it. Besides, we will draw members away who are looking for advice and start getting members interesting in "just chatting" or even pedophiles.

I don't see why we NEED to look like a social network. This is a forum to get advice and give advice. Sure, we have other discussions, but this is because we need to keep things balanced. We are here to help those in need and to discuss current issues/subjects that interest us. We aren't here to be a social network site. I don't see why this is so hard to get through people's heads.

it's was just an idea. Maybe create a debate section if people want to do this alright? Goodness. And you're saying VT will have the pedos. Please. Aim is worse. Anyone can search you on aim and send an IM. I'm talking about people who are just on the site. If you're talking about pedos make something um Idk A REPORT USER BUTTON? Idk if we have one. No one spaz out and say we do and give a big ass report about. And yeah having one on here would be a lot easier because because you don't have to click on notification all the time to read a pm and exit out your window. And you wouldn't have to keep switich tabs from aim to vt aim vt. Msn to aim to vt. Back to msn back to vt then to aim.

Yeah but no one gonna want to listen to me because there's going to be some lame excuse. And Facebook chat works fine for me and doesn't slow anything down and I hate myspace. It's sucks period. I just made one and canceled it within 20 mins. And you guys know it's easier you just dont want to admit it. And if any site has send user a pm or send user a message it's part of social networking and you also know that.

Why do people have to be fricken negative.

[Underground_Network]

Please, PROVE TO ME that this would be EASY to implement.

You've cited no facts other than that facebook has it. That doesn't mean it's EASY to put on a site like this. Coding doesn't happen overnight, and even if the code is already written, properly implementing and being able to run it on the servers we currently have could be a major issue. If you want to write this code and pay the additional money to handle the serverload, I say go for it, but if you're not willing to do that, THIS IS NOT HAPPENING.

[Lifeguard18]

Please, PROVE TO ME that this would be EASY to implement.

You've cited no facts other than that facebook has it. That doesn't mean it's EASY to put on a site like this. Coding doesn't happen overnight, and even if the code is already written, properly implementing and being able to run it on the servers we currently have could be a major issue. If you want to write this code and pay the additional money to handle the serverload, I say go for it, but if you're not willing to do that, THIS IS NOT HAPPENING.

I just had an idea. If you actually read what I had above you would think what i was thinking. I said it would be easier to RELIEVE FROM SWITCHINg BACK AnD FORTH FROM TABS!! That's what said. I never said it would be easy to do. No one is talking about coding. I know it won't be easy an I know it won't happen over fricken night. It's called suggestion section And everyone can have ideas and suggestions and post it if they want. It's not a fight section. Eeryone has a right to their word but it's too negative. Most of the suggestions won't happen becuase people like you keep complaining. You didn't cite anything about coding. So how do we know how long it will be. IT'S A FRICKEN IDEA!! STOP ACTING LIKE THE SITE IS COMING TO AN END!!!

[Sugaree]

IT'S A FRICKEN IDEA!! STOP ACTING LIKE THE SITE IS COMING TO AN END!!!

We are doing no such thing. So far, you have not cited anything on how to code this, how to implement it for the site, or anything other than Facebook has it. If you hate having to switch between tabs, then that is your problem, not ours. Saying that we are acting like this is the worst idea ever is an understatement. You posted your idea, now you must face the opinion of others. Is that so hard? It seems that you've lost your cool more than any others in this thread have. We understand it's an idea, but it would never work. It would take so much time, money, and energy from the senior staff members to really get this working.

[Lifeguard18]

We are doing no such thing. So far, you have not cited anything on how to code this, how to implement it for the site, or anything other than Facebook has it. If you hate having to switch between tabs, then that is your problem, not ours. Saying that we are acting like this is the worst idea ever is an understatement. You posted your idea, now you must face the opinion of others. Is that so hard? It seems that you've lost your cool more than any others in this thread have. We understand it's an idea, but it would never work. It would take so much time, money, and energy from the senior staff members to really get this working.

im sorry. but the replies i get are just too negative. idk how many times i have to say that. im not even thinking about coding or what not. Again im going to say its an idea i want replies but not in a negative form. like by implement do you mean benefit the site? if so like it will reduce the tab switching. would you hate to have to switch from three tabs every ten to fifteen seconds? a lot of people would. the chat room failed why not try this. and besides the chat room is to be coming back i read. that takes time and money and staff to get that working again. Right?

and if its slow on facebook theres many reasons for that. what browser are you using? How much memory does your computer have? hows your internet connection? what OS are you using? how many programs are you running at the same time (that causes a lot to slow down). Is there more than one person using the internet? (me and my family are on it a lot and its slow with a lot of people using it at the same time. we have to restart it.)

So i want to see positive things. not its slow on facebook. how do you think this will happen. do you know how long it will take to do that or do this. I want to see people not complain about things that are way to much in the future. i want to see responses that dont like the idea but in a positive way.

Idk how else i can put that and how many times i need to say it. but im sorry for losing my cool.

[The Joker]

it's was just an idea. Maybe create a debate section if people want to do this alright? Goodness. And you're saying VT will have the pedos. Please. Aim is worse. Anyone can search you on aim and send an IM. I'm talking about people who are just on the site. If you're talking about pedos make something um Idk A REPORT USER BUTTON? Idk if we have one. No one spaz out and say we do and give a big ass report about. And yeah having one on here would be a lot easier because because you don't have to click on notification all the time to read a pm and exit out your window. And you wouldn't have to keep switich tabs from aim to vt aim vt. Msn to aim to vt. Back to msn back to vt then to aim.

Yeah but no one gonna want to listen to me because there's going to be some lame excuse. And Facebook chat works fine for me and doesn't slow anything down and I hate myspace. It's sucks period. I just made one and canceled it within 20 mins. And you guys know it's easier you just dont want to admit it. And if any site has send user a pm or send user a message it's part of social networking and you also know that.

Why do people have to be fricken negative.

I'm negative because it ALWAYS slows down my computer, so having VT have it as well would mess me up.

[Sugaree]

I'm negative because it ALWAYS slows down my computer, so having VT have it as well would mess me up.

Same here. I could only be running in safe mode, be on Facebook, and the chat bar will still slow down Internet Explorer AND FireFox. I could also NOT be running in safe mode and still get the same results with FF or IE either slowing down or not responding. My internet connection, though fuzzy for the past few hours, is otherwise in generally great condition. Vista gives me no problems other than the occasional error message or freezing.

Putting it on VT would mess it up. Some of the people on here don't ALL have updated computer systems, so it would be unfair to them because it would cause their internet browsers or machine to run slower/not respond.

Also, before you make a suggestion, make sure to ask anything important. For this, I would be asking, "Who's going to code this? HOW do they code it? Will there be pros? Will there be cons?" and so on, so forth.

[2D]

Yes it would unless someone paid a couple thousand dollars a year in server hardware to handle the extra load.

End thread.

[Lifeguard18]

Same here. I could only be running in safe mode, be on Facebook, and the chat bar will still slow down Internet Explorer AND FireFox. I could also NOT be running in safe mode and still get the same results with FF or IE either slowing down or not responding. My internet connection, though fuzzy for the past few hours, is otherwise in generally great condition. Vista gives me no problems other than the occasional error message or freezing.

Putting it on VT would mess it up. Some of the people on here don't ALL have updated computer systems, so it would be unfair to them because it would cause their internet browsers or machine to run slower/not respond.

Also, before you make a suggestion, make sure to ask anything important. For this, I would be asking, "Who's going to code this? HOW do they code it? Will there be pros? Will there be cons?" and so on, so forth.


I see what you mean. Everyone and I do mean everyone knows ie sucks. My friend a Microsoft fan boy hates ie. Lol. He uses safari and loves it. I use safari and I don't get problems. My iBook g4 that was discontinued in 2005 is fine and facebook isn't slow. Nor on my vista (which is crap to me) idk how it's slow or people are just defending each other.

And a side note thank you. You basically wrote all the things said not in a negative form.

[Underground_Network]

I'm not trying to be offensive but SUGGESTIONS are supposed to be LOGICAL and possible to implement. This suggestion is a NICE ONE and honestly I think it's a NEAT IDEA but it's not LOGICAL and isn't going to happen because it's impossible to implement for a number of reasons (namely the fact that our administrator can't afford it).

Think ahead before posting a suggestion (as Matt said) and think about whether or not it's POSSIBLE. Don't just think of whether or not it's a neat idea, because if it's a neat idea but it's incredibly difficult or impossible to implement, people are bound to mention that, some with kinder words, some with harsher words.

You've got to expect backlash with any suggestion as it is, so honestly, suck it up. I'm sorry if we upset you, because I know what it's like to be easily upset, I get upset over stupid things too, but again, if you're going to make a suggestion there is ALWAYS the potential that someone might tear it apart. If you don't want people to tear apart your suggestion(s), don't make one, because that's the only guaranteed way for that to happen.

[The Batman]

Guys this actually is possible I've seen it on another vbulletin forum...

[Maverick]

Guys this actually is possible I've seen it on another vbulletin forum...It is possible however it requires extra money and resources to make it happen.

[The Batman]

Yea I really don't want it anyway just saying everyone is staying on the "It's not possible" thing was annoying considering none of them probably tried to look it up.

[Lifeguard18]

It is possible however it requires extra money and resources to make it happen.

You couldn't say that the first time you posted.

[The Joker]

Yes he did. His first post:

Yes it would unless someone paid a couple thousand dollars a year in server hardware to handle the extra load.

[Giles]

I didn't say I was for it... I actually hate facebook and myspace... I was just saying.
I didn't say you were for it; I was just picking apart the positives of your post.
im sorry. but the replies i get are just too negative. idk how many times i have to say that. im not even thinking about coding or what not. Again im going to say its an idea i want replies but not in a negative form.
You posted it in the Suggestions sub-forum.. you do know that right? The way it works is... You suggest something and we inform you of the many ways it's not possible/likely. They are mostly negative because you continue to suggest expensive things that I bet you aren't going to pay for.

You couldn't say that the first time you posted.
He did. If you fully read his post then you would of noticed.

[The Batman]

If you want more stuff then here's a link that could really help out. http://www.virtualteen.org/forums/payments.php

[Lifeguard18]

I didn't say you were for it; I was just picking apart the positives of your post.

You posted it in the Suggestions sub-forum.. you do know that right? The way it works is... You suggest something and we inform you of the many ways it's not possible/likely. They are mostly negative because you continue to suggest expensive things that I bet you aren't going to pay for.


He did. If you fully read his post then you would of noticed.

You want to complain too. Go ahead. If you read other posts which you probably didn't I said it was a suggestion and I wanted to see if any one agreed and not bitch (sorry for language) about how expenSive it would be. And if you read my other posts which you probably didn't either I said it would and it would take time. So you want to complain about it too fine. Be rude be negative be like everyone else.

[Sugaree]

Listen, you are the one bitching sir, not us. What you're doing is rejecting our opinions of your suggestion. Everyone has a negative view of this because of money. Money is such a huge factor in this and I don't think you had any thought beforehand about it. Things like this would cost money, a LOT of money. Our admins don't have that kind of money unless some of us would be willing to donate (which most of us CAN'T) and I'll make a sure bet that you won't be able to pay for the costs of this. Now, you posted this in suggestions, therefor you are subject to our opinions of your idea.

Now, we can either play nicely or we won't. I was hoping this thread would go smoothly, but with every passing opinion, you seem to be shooting it all down. You just can't handle the negative opinions about this. Look, if you didn't want this posted, then you might as well just report your original post to have it locked, because this thread is doing no good whatsoever.

You either learn to deal with negative opinions, or you can just stop making suggestions.

[Gumleaf]

ok, thats enough everyone, the arguing can stop here. just a reminder to everyone about making suggestions. all suggestions are welcome but when you make then, please keep in mind the suggestion needs to take into account practibility and keeping within the dynamics of the site.

locking.