Lil Wayne: Best Rapper Alive?........No [Archive]

Lifeguard18

January 6th, 2010, 05:32 PM

Ok. I'm starting to get fed up with this pathetic loser. Here's my rants and why:

1: He uses hardcore sex lyrics
2: He uses way to much vulgar language
3: He is trying to do rock but it's an epic fail. He's song Prom Queen is so horrible. I can't understand one word he says.
4: He is a druggie. He's been charged for cocaine, marijuana, and pot.
5: He has been charges numerous times for illegal guns in his tour bus.
6: Lil Wayne + Rock = Epic Fail
7: I saw a picture of him with tar between his teeth. Fricken Gross
8: He has more tatoos that a motor biker. His eyelids are tatoed saying "Fear God." Only an a*****e would do that.
9: He dropped out of school at age 14
10: He had his first child at age 15. DISGUSTING!!!!
11: He is to be sentenced to jail next month. I HOPE IT HAPPENS!!!!
12: Kanye West is 10000x's better than this a*****e.
13: He is the worst inluence on teens and the younger crowds.
14: He promotes sex, drugs, and violence.
15: Lil Wayne + Respect = Not going to happen to him
16: I probably have more but can't think of any

So this is why I HATE this man. And there's probably going to be comments saying "what are you talking about. He rocks." "Man shutup. I don't see you rapping." I DONT care if I see those comments.

To be honest, if anyone thinks this idiot is talented, an influence, rock, the best rapper, original, etc. etc., you're just much as a moron as he is.

And I don't think promoting sex, drugs, and violence is an influence.

Bougainvillea

January 6th, 2010, 05:51 PM

12: Kanye West is 10000x's better than this a*****e.

He fucking sucks, too.

And I wouldn't get all upset about him. I can't see why people care that much.

Zanra

January 6th, 2010, 05:55 PM

I prefer Niki Minaj or eminem or drake over both f them (lol Wayne and kanye west)

Bougainvillea

January 6th, 2010, 06:03 PM

MC Chris

Lifeguard18

January 6th, 2010, 06:04 PM

He fucking sucks, too.

And I wouldn't get all upset about him. I can't see why people care that much.

I'm not upset. I saw him on yahoo and decided to look to see what he was like. I couldn't believe what my eyes were seeing. He's gross. If I had a child who was influeneced by him and do things he does and becomes a rapper I would disown him immediatley. I don't want my kids being influenced by trash.

Despite kanyes swift incident, which is old and people are forgetting it, he has a lot of good songs. 808's and Heartbreak I personally think is awesome. Look at Chris brown playing stupid guilt trips. He's new graffiti album is horrid. First people hated him and I mean fans too yes fans too and now since he cane out with that dirt eeryone loves him again. I can relate F.T.S (faking the suspension) to brown. F.T.S Is from YouTube exposed. Chicity says a famous person will be at the top Then do something stupid and have people hate them make up a guilt trip story. People will feel bad and then your at the top again. Watch the vid. It's interesting. I could go on and on but I won't. Lol.

Bougainvillea

January 6th, 2010, 06:07 PM

I would disown him immediatley.

Then you're unfit to be a parent.

Lifeguard18

January 6th, 2010, 06:11 PM

Then you're unfit to be a parent.

If my child dropped out I would do my best to get him back in school and stay there. If he has a child at 15 no way would I be able to put up with that. Then singing fucking garbage no. No way. No parent would want their child to be like lil Wayne. He's just garbage.

Maybe I went to far by saying disown. I wouldn't. Sorry. I would try to get him back on the right track. If that wouldn't work nothing would.

Bougainvillea

January 6th, 2010, 06:15 PM

It's your job to influence your child on what is right or wrong. And he can't legally drop until he's 18.
Oh well.
At least someone agrees his music sucks.

Lifeguard18

January 6th, 2010, 06:19 PM

It's your job to influence your child on what is right or wrong. And he can't legally drop until he's 18.
Oh well.
At least someone agrees his music sucks.

I wouldn't be surprised by just me agreeing. Go on YouTube and type Lil Wayne sucks and you'll get a lot of results ranting about him.

Ryhanna

January 6th, 2010, 06:21 PM

peronally I think rap is a load of bull.
For pretty much every reason you've stated there. Yeah, it used to be fun when the rappers were cool and didn't get in trouble with the law so much and create pretty much a sterotype about african americans. It's just killed it's own music. And it all sounds the same. The only major difference is the words, there all rapped the same... He kinda ruined the song "Down" by Jay Sean... and probably countless others.

The Batman

January 6th, 2010, 06:41 PM

Oh god I hate Lil wayne but your reasoning behind hating him is kinda dumb.

1: He uses hardcore sex lyrics
Like most other rappers infact compared to what I heard he's actually quite tame.
2: He uses way to much vulgar language Same as above most rappers use a hell of a lot of vulgar language and he's tame compared to them
3: He is trying to do rock but it's an epic fail. I agree with you on that one it was full of fail
He's song Prom Queen is so horrible. I can't understand one word he says. Didn't even bother listening to it
4: He is a druggie. He's been charged for cocaine, marijuana, and pot. I'm not to sure about him being a druggie I don't know much about his personal life.
5: He has been charges numerous times for illegal guns in his tour bus. Another Rapper is jail right now for gun chargers and he's way better tha Lil Wayne so I really don't see how that will affect his rapping
6: Lil Wayne + Rock = Epic FailOk this is the second time you've mentioned him going to rock...
7: I saw a picture of him with tar between his teeth. Fricken GrossAre you sure that it's even real and if so why should one picture make someone horrible?
8: He has more tatoos that a motor biker. His eyelids are tatoed saying "Fear God." Only an a*****e would do that. There are so many rappers, actors, actresses, artists, entertainers, and regular people with a ton of tattoos what makes him different?
9: He dropped out of school at age 14And he still made something out of himself
10: He had his first child at age 15. DISGUSTING!!!!A lot of teens these days are having kids at young ages and he's showing them that they can still follow their dream.
11: He is to be sentenced to jail next month. I HOPE IT HAPPENS!!!!People go to jail it doesn't make them terrible
12: Kanye West is 10000x's better than this a*****e. Kanye sucks
13: He is the worst inluence on teens and the younger crowds. That's why parents shouldn't let their kids listen to him
14: He promotes sex, drugs, and violence.I don't think he's telling everyone to go out have a lot of sex while snorting cocaine and shooting cops. I've heard a song that was literally saying, "fuck the police"
15: Lil Wayne + Respect = Not going to happen to him People do respect him .

So this is why I HATE this man. And there's probably going to be comments saying "what are you talking about. He rocks." "Man shutup. I don't see you rapping." I DONT care if I see those comments.

To be honest, if anyone thinks this idiot is talented, an influence, rock, the best rapper, original, etc. etc., you're just much as a moron as he is.

And I don't think promoting sex, drugs, and violence is an influence.
And calling people moron's for liking him is completely stupid they have a right to listen to whatever music they like rather you agree with their taste or not.

Lifeguard18

January 6th, 2010, 06:50 PM

Oh god I hate Lil wayne but your reasoning behind hating him is kinda dumb.

Like most other rappers infact compared to what I heard he's actually quite tame.
Same as above most rappers use a hell of a lot of vulgar language and he's tame compared to them
I agree with you on that one it was full of fail
Didn't even bother listening to it
I'm not to sure about him being a druggie I don't know much about his personal life.
Another Rapper is jail right now for gun chargers and he's way better tha Lil Wayne so I really don't see how that will affect his rapping
Ok this is the second time you've mentioned him going to rock...
Are you sure that it's even real and if so why should one picture make someone horrible?
There are so many rappers, actors, actresses, artists, entertainers, and regular people with a ton of tattoos what makes him different?
And he still made something out of himself
A lot of teens these days are having kids at young ages and he's showing them that they can still follow their dream.
People go to jail it doesn't make them terrible
Kanye sucks
That's why parents shouldn't let their kids listen to him
I don't think he's telling everyone to go out have a lot of sex while snorting cocaine and shooting cops. I've heard a song that was literally saying, "fuck the police"
People do respect him .

And calling people moron's for liking him is completely stupid they have a right to listen to whatever music they like rather you agree with their taste or not.

Ok you proved me wrong in a lot of places but still my opinion about him. People respect him yeah. But what I meant is he shows no respect at all. My opinion. He's always looking like he's going to stab someone in the throat or somehing.

When I said you're much as a moron is if you think promoting sex drugs and violence is influential that's a BIG problem ALOT if people ignore because it's all about who gets money and who's on the top. And what is happening to music. It's turning into garbage just like Lil Waybe turns it into garbage. Mother f this mother f that. I'm gonna get on her just like that. is all you hear these days. And NO ONE cares. Music is starting to turn into a joke. Rock is like the only genre in my opinion that is 100% original and good music. Not mother f this mother f that I'm gonna get in her just like like that.

The Batman

January 6th, 2010, 06:57 PM

Rock is no better or worse I've heard songs just as bad and all of it is starting to sound the same to me.

Tiberius

January 6th, 2010, 07:00 PM

He is a disgrace to society, but we have to put up with him since there are people who don't know any better who like him and those people are numerable...

Lifeguard18

January 6th, 2010, 07:02 PM

Rock is no better or worse I've heard songs just as bad and all of it is starting to sound the same to me.

I just don't like the screamo rock. That's it. And I'm just hearing the same beats all the time. It's annoying to me a little. And Ive NEVER NEVER heard a rock song talking about drugs and sex.

Stuff like this today is to oppinioned based and no one wants to hear the other persons opinion.

The Batman

January 6th, 2010, 07:05 PM

Lifeguard18

January 6th, 2010, 07:22 PM

Nickleback`~rockstar
"Cause we all just wanna be big rockstars
Livin' in hilltop houses driving fifteen cars
The girls come easy and the drugs come cheap
We'll all stay skinny cause we just won't eat
And we'll hang out in the coolest bars
In the VIP with the movie stars
Every good gold digger's
Gonna wind up there
Every Playboy bunny
with her bleach blonde hair
And we'll hide out in the private rooms
With the latest dictionary
in today's who's who
We'll get you anything
with that evil smile
Everybody's got a
drug dealer on speed dial"

ok first you agree with me lil Wayne sucks and now it's like your sticking up for him. And I don't listen to nickelback. I only like photograph. That's it. But is he using vulgar language no. Is he talking about sex yes but he's not saying he's doing it or fucking describing how he has sex. Is he talking about drugs yes but he's not telling people to do it and he's not mentioning how high he gets of crack or how much pot he smokes. You know it's true. Like I said it's all opinioned based but no one wants to hear the other person

and the last time I checked no members of nickelback dropped out of school at age 14 or had a child at age 15 and been charged for drugs and been charged for illegal guns.

The Batman

January 6th, 2010, 07:27 PM

ok first you agree with me lil Wayne sucks and now it's like your sticking up for him. And I don't listen to nickelback. I only like photograph. That's it. But is he using vulgar language no. Is he talking about sex yes but he's not saying he's doing it or fucking describing how he has sex. Is he talking about drugs yes but he's not telling people to do it and he's not mentioning how high he gets of crack or how much pot he smokes. You know it's true. Like I said it's all opinioned based but no one wants to hear the other person

and the last time I checked no members of nickelback dropped out of school at age 14 or had a child at age 15 and been charged for drugs and been charged for illegal guns.

I might not like Lil Wayne but still your points were kinds lame and I pointed it out. Also I wasn't talking about Nickleback just the lyrics and how you say rock doesn't sing about sex and drugs when infact they did. So like I said Rock is no better or worse.

Ryhanna

January 7th, 2010, 12:07 AM

Chill out, guys. Everyones entitled to their opinion and if you don't agree with it then get over it, ok. Lil wayne has lots of fans and haters, just like everyone other celebrity out there. He's made some mistakes in the past, and future and he has and will learn from them (hopefully)

Contra

January 7th, 2010, 12:35 PM

deadpie

January 7th, 2010, 03:23 PM

Notorious B.I.G, Eyedea & Abilities, and Dr. Dre is good rap music to me. I love how offensive Dre is in his songs-i mean it's not just boring sex lyrics, it's brutal stuff. Eyedea and his lyrics are just so smart and i wish i could write like him. Notorious, i don't even have to say anything.
Lil wayne just doesn't mean much to me when i tried to listen to him.

The Joker

January 7th, 2010, 11:47 PM

Lifeguard18

January 8th, 2010, 06:15 PM

I might not like Lil Wayne but still your points were kinds lame and I pointed it out. Also I wasn't talking about Nickleback just the lyrics and how you say rock doesn't sing about sex and drugs when infact they did. So like I said Rock is no better or worse.

True but rap is ten tines worse when they talk about that kind of stuff. It's a problem that no one will fix. And they were still my points from all kinds of sources not just wikipedia or wiki sites.

rocker90210

January 22nd, 2010, 04:13 PM

I personally despise rap music, because a lot of it is vulgar music. And at the top of this is Lil' Wayne. Everyone can like what they want, but how can you like music that has such offensive lyrics and no actual musical to go with? I just don't understand.

DSV-Dan

January 22nd, 2010, 04:50 PM

If anyone thinks lil wayne is the best rapper alive, they havnt heard slaughter house!

Amyxoxo

January 22nd, 2010, 06:11 PM

Yeah ok well ...
So personally I think that he is ok (Mainly because I have only heard the song let it rock)
But as has been said many rappers are like this, that is what makes rap, rap!
Although i cant stand listening to it like propperly (Like I dont mind it short in the middle of a song or something but not a full track) I do think that the rapper are increadibly talented some of them because the way they think about the words that they are saying and their abililty to put them in like meaningful phrases.
He may not be the best role model for younger children or anyone but then he is sorta good at what he does.

cody2010

January 22nd, 2010, 07:04 PM

i couldn't agree with you more.

The Joker

January 23rd, 2010, 02:50 PM

Fruit_Tart.

January 23rd, 2010, 03:04 PM

haha.... i don like how lil wayne sounds. his voice is so irritating. i hate it. its like he wants to say something else be he gets mixed up and he jus ends up cracking. :P

Sugaree

January 23rd, 2010, 04:17 PM

1: He uses hardcore sex lyrics
2: He uses way to much vulgar language
3: He is trying to do rock but it's an epic fail. He's song Prom Queen is so horrible. I can't understand one word he says.
4: He is a druggie. He's been charged for cocaine, marijuana, and pot.
5: He has been charges numerous times for illegal guns in his tour bus.
6: Lil Wayne + Rock = Epic Fail
7: I saw a picture of him with tar between his teeth. Fricken Gross
8: He has more tatoos that a motor biker. His eyelids are tatoed saying "Fear God." Only an a*****e would do that.
9: He dropped out of school at age 14
10: He had his first child at age 15. DISGUSTING!!!!
11: He is to be sentenced to jail next month. I HOPE IT HAPPENS!!!!
12: Kanye West is 10000x's better than this a*****e.
13: He is the worst inluence on teens and the younger crowds.
14: He promotes sex, drugs, and violence.
15: Lil Wayne + Respect = Not going to happen to him
16: I probably have more but can't think of any

1. So does ever other rapper on the market today.

2. Once again, so does ever other rapper. You ever listen to early hardcore rap? Lil' Wayne is tame compared to the likes of, say, Ice-T.

3. Musical experimentation. Every artist does it.

4. Marijuana and pot are the same thing. Just because he's been caught with drugs, doesn't make him a bad person.

5. Once again, doesn't make him a bad person in general.

6. See point number three.

7. How are you so sure it's REAL?

8. So if you ever meet a biker and call him an asshole for having numerous tattoos, you'd expect him to shrug it off? Maybe the saying has a strong meaning to him.

9. As bad as this is, he still made something of himself.

10. It's not disgusting, it's reality. Get a hold of it.

11. Just because someone goes to jail does not mean they're a bad person.

12. Wrong, KW is awful.

13. In YOUR view. To me, he's inspiration to follow your dreams. I don't like his music, but he made something of himself and that is true influence.

14. Like every rapper doesn't?

15. How are you so sure, it might be different if you knew him personally.

16. Then why list this as a point?

Amyxoxo

January 23rd, 2010, 04:43 PM

Read his lyrics, most of them aren't meaningful at all.

most What about the others, and you cant deny that he cant put words to beats.

The Joker

January 24th, 2010, 12:44 AM

He can put words to beats, but I could make more meaningful raps than he could.

Ryhanna

January 24th, 2010, 03:42 AM

hahahaha did you seriously say 'meaningful' rap??? hahahahahahahaha does that even exist?! LOL

The Batman

January 24th, 2010, 03:44 AM

Yea it does exist. There is a such thing as rap having meaning just that it's not really marketable. What you hear in the mainstream media is what the record companies put out there for you to hear.

Ryhanna

January 24th, 2010, 06:19 AM

Becuase thats what appeals to people and will make more sales than bland stuff thats probably better for people to hear? ok

Sage

January 24th, 2010, 07:54 AM

hahahaha did you seriously say 'meaningful' rap??? hahahahahahahaha does that even exist?! LOL

Congratulations! You're musically illiterate.

The Batman

January 24th, 2010, 01:47 PM

Becuase thats what appeals to people and will make more sales than bland stuff thats probably better for people to hear? ok

Yes if you go and buy someone's album or listen to it online you'll find that they do have meaningful songs on there that aren't put out on the radio or in music videos. The record companies are about making money they don't care about whether or not the song is meaningful. It's why most of the rap songs you hear out there are similar. There are rappers however that do just do it for the bullshit lyrics though but not all of them.

DSV-Dan

January 24th, 2010, 10:14 PM

hahahaha did you seriously say 'meaningful' rap??? hahahahahahahaha does that even exist?! LOL

ignorance much?

Sugaree

January 24th, 2010, 10:25 PM

hahahaha did you seriously say 'meaningful' rap??? hahahahahahahaha does that even exist?! LOL

Three cheers for being musically ignorant. Really, if you looked, there actually IS meaningful rap out there.

blueberryshady

February 2nd, 2010, 09:53 PM

1. So does ever other rapper on the market today.

2. Once again, so does ever other rapper. You ever listen to early hardcore rap? Lil' Wayne is tame compared to the likes of, say, Ice-T.

3. Musical experimentation. Every artist does it.

4. Marijuana and pot are the same thing. Just because he's been caught with drugs, doesn't make him a bad person.

5. Once again, doesn't make him a bad person in general.

6. See point number three.

7. How are you so sure it's REAL?

8. So if you ever meet a biker and call him an asshole for having numerous tattoos, you'd expect him to shrug it off? Maybe the saying has a strong meaning to him.

9. As bad as this is, he still made something of himself.

10. It's not disgusting, it's reality. Get a hold of it.

11. Just because someone goes to jail does not mean they're a bad person.

12. Wrong, KW is awful.

13. In YOUR view. To me, he's inspiration to follow your dreams. I don't like his music, but he made something of himself and that is true influence.

14. Like every rapper doesn't?

15. How are you so sure, it might be different if you knew him personally.

16. Then why list this as a point?

wow. i love you. no homo, but that's exactly what i was thinking.

Sugaree

February 2nd, 2010, 11:21 PM

wow. i love you. no homo, but that's exactly what i was thinking.

Just because you love me for what I said in that post doesn't make you a homo :/.

thedudeman

February 3rd, 2010, 12:57 AM

applefanboy is a real buzz kill
lil wayne sux
but dude lighten up, do you want your kid to have fun?

thedudeman

February 3rd, 2010, 12:58 AM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8BuzBvcGBxc
you think you know vulgar language? listen to this song
ive been addicted to drugs, had two hiv/aid scares, most of my girlfriends have been raped repeatedly, done something i dont wanna mention to a girl several times and am on meds because of what the drugs did
but im still a good person and i treat people with respect and try to be good influences on those younger then me, open your eyes the world isnt so black and white, your kids needs to see the good and the bad dont shelter him

Severus Snape

February 3rd, 2010, 08:37 PM

He's in jail right? good.

Sugaree

February 3rd, 2010, 08:39 PM

He's in jail right? good.

Yet if it were a relative in your family who was convicted of the same, you wouldn't be glad?

Severus Snape

February 3rd, 2010, 08:41 PM

Yet if it were a relative in your family who was convicted of the same, you wouldn't be glad?

Pardon moi?

None of my family members are irritating rappers with drug habits. Criminals belong in the penthouse.

thedudeman

February 3rd, 2010, 10:53 PM

Pardon moi?

None of my family members are irritating rappers with drug habits. Criminals belong in the penthouse.

thats pretty ignorant, some people have to commit crimes as a survival technique, you think people in the projects have a booming economy around them? and that people are just dying to hire someone from compton? hell no its hard to get a good job if you come from a bad background, and without a job and with welfare not being enough to support a family what the hell else are you gunna do but sell drugs? and another thing, when you grow up in a shithole its probably hard to stay mr goody two shoes, i doubt you could do it, and if you could, youd be one of few

galen

February 3rd, 2010, 11:18 PM

I don't think his personal life should influence opinions on his music. I like his raps, not my favorite but still good for me. I like his music, it doesn't mean I need to like him as a friend, neighbour or someone close to me.

Soooo.. he could be the best rapper alive, just not the best influence on kids. there should be a distinction there.

I don't agree with Oasis punching their fans all the time during concerts, or the disgraceful things they do in public, but they are still one of my favorite bands simply because of the music they make.

The Batman

February 3rd, 2010, 11:31 PM

thats pretty ignorant, some people have to commit crimes as a survival technique, you think people in the projects have a booming economy around them? and that people are just dying to hire someone from compton? hell no its hard to get a good job if you come from a bad background, and without a job and with welfare not being enough to support a family what the hell else are you gunna do but sell drugs? and another thing, when you grow up in a shithole its probably hard to stay mr goody two shoes, i doubt you could do it, and if you could, youd be one of few

There are ways to make money without selling drugs. People mainly do it because they THINK it's a get rich quick thing. Also he got caught with gun possession and is going in this month I think. Criminals do deserve to go to jail.

Sugaree

February 4th, 2010, 12:39 AM

Pardon moi?

None of my family members are irritating rappers with drug habits. Criminals belong in the penthouse.

It doesn't matter, you're being incredibly ignorant here. What I'm saying is that if a relative of yours, maybe your mother or father, gets caught with the same charges. You would automatically go to their defense because you believe they don't deserve to go to jail. You see that Lil' Wayne goes to jail and you act as if it's the best thing that ever happened.

You also act that any type of crime deserves penalty. As true as this is, you are ignoring the fact that crime is also a survival technique. The earthquake aftermath in Haiti is a fine example or even Hurricane Katrina. You notice that people who are in need of supplies are looting stores. This is a crime, but why are they doing it? They need to live. If a homeless who has gone without food for a significant amount of time steals from a grocer. He does it so he can live.

I'm not saying selling drugs is a way to make a living, but it is a market where one could make a good amount of money. Most drug dealers have an addiction themselves, so the money they get from selling goes to feeding that addiction. It's a get rich quick scheme and you die penniless in the end.

February 4th, 2010, 01:01 AM

Best rapper ever? No.

Damn good? Yes.

thedudeman

February 4th, 2010, 02:38 AM

There are ways to make money without selling drugs. People mainly do it because they THINK it's a get rich quick thing. Also he got caught with gun possession and is going in this month I think. Criminals do deserve to go to jail.

and they belong in jail, but those raised in slum areas with no other option do not

haha for gun possession? what a dumb ass, he didnt live a thug life he shot himself on accident when he was a child with his moms gun, probably just carried it for image, he deffinately deserves that time, dudes rich he can hire bodyguards

Best rapper ever? No.

Damn good? Yes.

damn good? hell no
horribly flow, bad metaphors, no originality, lots of material, yes, but does that make him damn good? hell no, if you wanna hear complicated/metaphorical lyricism to compare to his better songs like i feel like im dying check out kool keith,
aesop rock trumps him to, and there underground, well kool keith is underground now didnt used to be

50 cents new album is actually better then the stuff ive heard from lil wayne, and i cant stand 50 cent

Sugaree

February 4th, 2010, 02:49 PM

damn good? hell no
horribly flow, bad metaphors, no originality, lots of material, yes, but does that make him damn good? hell no, if you wanna hear complicated/metaphorical lyricism to compare to his better songs like i feel like im dying check out kool keith,
aesop rock trumps him to, and there underground, well kool keith is underground now didnt used to be

50 cents new album is actually better then the stuff ive heard from lil wayne, and i cant stand 50 cent

I respect your opinion, but you can't say that one artist over another is better. Well, you can, but it's all a matter of personal music tastes. I like Michael Jackson, do I consider him the best artist over, say, The Beatles or Journey? No, because each artist can bring their own stuff to the tables, take their balls to the wall, and see what happens. It's all about experimenting with what you can do with your songs and see how it turns out.

Severus Snape

February 4th, 2010, 03:51 PM

It doesn't matter, you're being incredibly ignorant here. What I'm saying is that if a relative of yours, maybe your mother or father, gets caught with the same charges. You would automatically go to their defense because you believe they don't deserve to go to jail. You see that Lil' Wayne goes to jail and you act as if it's the best thing that ever happened.I usually do a happy dance every time justice is carried out. The fact that this time Wayne is getting his only makes the victory for civilization all the sweeter. Plus it spares us from his unbelievably insipid music.

You also act that any type of crime deserves penalty. As true as this is, you are ignoring the fact that crime is also a survival technique. The earthquake aftermath in Haiti is a fine example or even Hurricane Katrina. You notice that people who are in need of supplies are looting stores. This is a crime, but why are they doing it? They need to live. If a homeless who has gone without food for a significant amount of time steals from a grocer. He does it so he can live.
So, the law should matter, but should be suspended if we need it to be? That is ridiculous logic. The rule of what is what separates the US from places like Haiti.

I'm not saying selling drugs is a way to make a living, but it is a market where one could make a good amount of money. Most drug dealers have an addiction themselves, so the money they get from selling goes to feeding that addiction. It's a get rich quick scheme and you die penniless in the end.Oh ok, that justifies it then. Perhaps you would find an argument easier to make if you stopped for one second, paused, and actually realized you are defending drug dealers.

thats pretty ignorant, some people have to commit crimes as a survival technique, you think people in the projects have a booming economy around them?
That's pretty ignorant, do you even realize how much money little wayne grosses per month of his album sales?

and that people are just dying to hire someone from compton? hell no its hard to get a good job if you come from a bad background, and without a job and with welfare not being enough to support a family what the hell else are you gunna do but sell drugs? and another thing, when you grow up in a shithole its probably hard to stay mr goody two shoes, i doubt you could do it, and if you could, youd be one of few

I've no sympathy for people who lack the initiative to get a good education, and there is no excuse for it. There are scholarships and opportunities of every kind available for minority students.

Sugaree

February 4th, 2010, 04:14 PM

I usually do a happy dance every time justice is carried out. The fact that this time Wayne is getting his only makes the victory for civilization all the sweeter. Plus it spares us from his unbelievably insipid music.

Once again, ignorance towards the likings of others. I'll grant this, I don't like the man's music, but you have to respect him for being a musician. Sure, you may not like his music, but be glad he's making some form of art.

So, the law should matter, but should be suspended if we need it to be? That is ridiculous logic. The rule of what is what separates the US from places like Haiti.

Exactly, and looting in New Orleans after Katrina was fully justified?

Oh ok, that justifies it then. Perhaps you would find an argument easier to make if you stopped for one second, paused, and actually realized you are defending drug dealers.

I'm not defending drug dealers. I am in full opposition to any drugs, including using them for medical reasons. Drug dealers don't know how to make money other than by selling and using those drugs. As bad as it is, it's a way to get a shitload of money in your pocket. I don't think you fully contemplated your argument.

That's pretty ignorant, do you even realize how much money little wayne grosses per month of his album sales?

And other artists DON'T? Many artists make a very big gross sum when it comes to album sales. However, rap is a popular genre of the current public and getting more money means you're more popular.

I've no sympathy for people who lack the initiative to get a good education, and there is no excuse for it. There are scholarships and opportunities of every kind available for minority students.

Yeah, except you think that minority students - or any student, minority or not for THAT matter - really care about getting a scholarship, let alone an opportunity for a better education. You're also stereotyping how minority students just drop out of school for the hell of it. As true as that might be, there are students, minorities and those who aren't minorities, who do proceed to higher education because they have a support system from family, friends, and many other sources. The reason kids drop out of school might be because of family issues, stress, or even just the fact that they don't care. It will be their fault in the long run when they don't have a job when they're 35.

I find it great that we get off topic so quickly and all because of one little comment.

Severus Snape

February 4th, 2010, 04:37 PM

Once again, ignorance towards the likings of others. I'll grant this, I don't like the man's music, but you have to respect him for being a musician. Sure, you may not like his music, but be glad he's making some form of art. No, I don't have to celebrate the man's "art". He is a despicable person.

Exactly, and looting in New Orleans after Katrina was fully justified?Of course not. Now you're just being silly.

I'm not defending drug dealers. I am in full opposition to any drugs, including using them for medical reasons. Drug dealers don't know how to make money other than by selling and using those drugs. As bad as it is, it's a way to get a shitload of money in your pocket. I don't think you fully contemplated your argument.So what exactly is it that you are trying to interject here? Rhetorical ejaculations aren't getting you anywhere fast, and it is illogical to deny defending drug dealers but then justify that that by claiming it is the only way for people to make a living, which is not true.

And other artists DON'T? Many artists make a very big gross sum when it comes to album sales. However, rap is a popular genre of the current public and getting more money means you're more popular.Ofc, but other artists don't use lyrics that support drug abuse and treating women like animals.

Yeah, except you think that minority students - or any student, minority or not for THAT matter - really care about getting a scholarship, let alone an opportunity for a better education.
Jesus Christ, I hope not. I aspire to become a teacher one day so the concept that people do not value education is especially horrifying for me, but should be as equally troubling for you. What does anyone have to gain from ignorance other than a minimum income job?

You're also stereotyping how minority students just drop out of school for the hell of it.
Actually I never said that or even alluded to that asinine assumption.

As true as that might be, there are students, minorities and those who aren't minorities, who do proceed to higher education because they have a support system from family, friends, and many other sources.
You should be motivated for your education. I don't study because my family cares about my success. Of course they do care about my success but I do it for me. And actually no, that is not true.

The reason kids drop out of school might be because of family issues, stress, or even just the fact that they don't care.
The first can be justified the second two most definitely cannot. Everyone gets stressed out about work, you can't just quit for that reason and if you don't care then kindly get the fuck out of school and stop making it difficult for others to study. If there is one thing I cannot abide, it is laziness and if someone is so stupid to assume they don't need an education then they can just leave.

It will be their fault in the long run when they don't have a job when they're 35.Damn tootin' it will be.

edit- I just read your blog, its cool.

Sugaree

February 4th, 2010, 05:36 PM

No, I don't have to celebrate the man's "art". He is a despicable person.

His art is his own. It's his way of expressing himself and you can't deny that.

Of course not. Now you're just being silly.

You've contradicted yourself. What you're saying - and this is how I'M reading it, so it could be different on your behalf - is that places like Haiti are lawless and they'll loot just to loot, but the United States is somehow better?

So what exactly is it that you are trying to interject here? Rhetorical ejaculations aren't getting you anywhere fast, and it is illogical to deny defending drug dealers but then justify that that by claiming it is the only way for people to make a living, which is not true.

First, I will say again that I am NOT defending the selling of drugs. I think you've completely misread that entire statement. I'm saying that it's wrong, but for people who can't get an honest job and make a decent living from that job sometimes have no other choice. It's like prostitution; prostitutes do what they do because they couldn't find a job - or should I say get a job - good enough to support them or their families. So they had to go through the backdoor to earn a living, even though it may be meager.

Ofc, but other artists don't use lyrics that support drug abuse and treating women like animals.

That's rap, deal with it. Not everything can be all goody-good bullshit you know.

Jesus Christ, I hope not. I aspire to become a teacher one day so the concept that people do not value education is especially horrifying for me, but should be as equally troubling for you. What does anyone have to gain from ignorance other than a minimum income job?

First off, good for you for aspiring to become a teacher. Speaking from a student standpoint, just as you are, I think I can safely say that it does bother me. However, it's not MY problem that someone else doesn't value what they are taught. As I said before, it's their fault in the long run.

Actually I never said that or even alluded to that asinine assumption.

Funny, your post sure smelled of it. But then again, that's how I read it. You might have meant something else but worded it in a way where I could see it as stereotyping.

You should be motivated for your education. I don't study because my family cares about my success. Of course they do care about my success but I do it for me. And actually no, that is not true.

Yes, one should be motivated for education. I do the same as you. My family cares about my success, but I don't do it for them. I do it for me so I can make a living in the world.

The first can be justified the second two most definitely cannot. Everyone gets stressed out about work, you can't just quit for that reason and if you don't care then kindly get the fuck out of school and stop making it difficult for others to study. If there is one thing I cannot abide, it is laziness and if someone is so stupid to assume they don't need an education then they can just leave.

The second most certainly CAN be justified. You and me handle stress in different ways. I usually do it through music and working out, you might handle it in a different way. At least my ways are productive to me, and your ways productive for you. But there are some people out there that just can't handle the stress. I've seen kids walk off from school because of peer pressure, parental pressure, and even pressure from the teachers. I'm not saying ALL parents are like this. My parents have been supportive the entire way, my friends have been the same along with my wonderful teachers. However, not everyone is lucky enough to have this.

Those who don't think they need an education can be justified in their own right. True, it's not one of the best decision to make, but it is a decision of free will and can be justified for the reason that the person gives. No one else might agree with those reasons, but not everyone looks kindly upon idiots.

edit- I just read your blog, its cool.

Why thank you sir :wave:

Severus Snape

February 4th, 2010, 05:51 PM

His art is his own. It's his way of expressing himself and you can't deny that. I wish he would express himself through finger painting instead.

You've contradicted yourself. What you're saying - and this is how I'M reading it, so it could be different on your behalf - is that places like Haiti are lawless and they'll loot just to loot, but the United States is somehow better?Yes, much better. You would rather live in Haiti than the US?

It's like prostitution; prostitutes do what they do because they couldn't find a job - or should I say get a job - good enough to support them or their families. So they had to go through the backdoor to earn a living, even though it may be meager.
I understand that, but that doesn't make it OK.

That's rap, deal with it. Not everything can be all goody-good bullshit you know.
I'm seeing this band on Wednesday next week. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DdGFUYmwXvU&feature=related

First off, good for you for aspiring to become a teacher. Speaking from a student standpoint, just as you are, I think I can safely say that it does bother me. However, it's not MY problem that someone else doesn't value what they are taught. As I said before, it's their fault in the long run. I agree but I'm not going to feel sorry for them, offer to help them, or even care if they refuse to do so for themselves.

The second most certainly CAN be justified. You and me handle stress in different ways. I usually do it through music and working out, you might handle it in a different way. At least my ways are productive to me, and your ways productive for you. But there are some people out there that just can't handle the stress. I've seen kids walk off from school because of peer pressure, parental pressure, and even pressure from the teachers. I'm not saying ALL parents are like this. My parents have been supportive the entire way, my friends have been the same along with my wonderful teachers. However, not everyone is lucky enough to have this.
Last year I wrote a 5,000 word dissertation on the Julio-Claudian Emperors for my history class. It was hella stressful, but you know what? It isn't going to write itself. I was stressed, but everyone is stressed. You have to deal with it.

Why thank you sir :wave:
You're very articulate for a freshman, its impressive. I hope I don't sound patronizing at this point.

Sugaree

February 4th, 2010, 06:53 PM

I wish he would express himself through finger painting instead.

If he could, I'm sure that would be just as obscene as his music.

Yes, much better. You would rather live in Haiti than the US?Depends. You know how to get through a bumfucked country without getting bumfucked yourself?

I understand that, but that doesn't make it OK.Exactly my point, but does that make it any less a survival technique?

I'm seeing this band on Wednesday next week. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DdGFUYmwXvU&feature=related
Hold on, I need to get this shit straight. You say that the music Lil Wayne makes is obscene, yet you go out and listen to this? It's not like I haven't heard music like this before, I'm just confused on this.
I agree but I'm not going to feel sorry for them, offer to help them, or even care if they refuse to do so for themselves.

Last year I wrote a 5,000 word dissertation on the Julio-Claudian Emperors for my history class. It was hella stressful, but you know what? It isn't going to write itself. I was stressed, but everyone is stressed. You have to deal with it.Exactly my point yet again! That's the initiative that students should be showing, but not many do. I admire your style.

You're very articulate for a freshman, its impressive. I hope I don't sound patronizing at this point.I've been knowing to catch the eye of some people with my writing and speaking capabilities. Thank you for the compliment. You're not patronizing at all. It's nice to have a debate with someone intelligent other than getting the "OMG U R RONG!!!!!!11!" posts from n00bs.

Severus Snape

February 4th, 2010, 07:06 PM

If he could, I'm sure that would be just as obscene as his music.But it would be more hilarious.

Depends. You know how to get through a bumfucked country without getting bumfucked yourself?
Why would I want to get through it without joining in?

Hold on, I need to get this shit straight. You say that the music Lil Wayne makes is obscene, yet you go out and listen to this? It's not like I haven't heard music like this before, I'm just confused on this.Quote the lyrics to the average Little Wayne song and let's compare lyrics, you'll be surprised.

Exactly my point yet again! That's the initiative that students should be showing, but not many do. I admire your style.
My school doesn't offer Latin, I'm teaching myself. Nothing shall stand in my way damnit!

I've been knowing to catch the eye of some people with my writing and speaking capabilities. Thank you for the compliment. You're not patronizing at all. It's nice to have a debate with someone intelligent other than getting the "OMG U R RONG!!!!!!11!" posts from n00bs.

I suppose I'm a noob, but far be it from me to debate poorly. Aggressively yes, but not poorly I hope. :P