nude aint rude

[0=]

Basically, I want to establish what people think of nudity and nudity in mixed company on a moral level and a societal level.

I personally am a nudist, although my family isn't so I have to be careful, I have always been more comfortable naked, and I never really understood why people kept the body hidden and secret. On a societal level nudity makes sense, it prevents unhealthy sexual taboos about nudity, countries where it is acceptd have lower teenpregnancy rates, and its just plain comfy. on a moral level, I believe its completely natural, even the bible supports it.

[Ravenous]

First of all it is extreemly unhygenic! Also you will get bare cold in winter. Chances are I don't want to see you naked. The public should not be forced too look at naked people walking the streets. If you want to be nude in your own home fine, but no way should you do it anywhere except there.

[redcar]

i think we are better with our clothes to be honest, like as Tim says its hygenic and you can keep nice and warm and toasty! like dont get me wrong the human body is beautiful but i prefer my clothes! but to each their own!:D

[kolte]

First of all it is extreemly unhygenic! Also you will get bare cold in winter. Chances are I don't want to see you naked. The public should not be forced too look at naked people walking the streets. If you want to be nude in your own home fine, but no way should you do it anywhere except there.

Yeah, that would totally gross me out to see like morbidly obese people waddling nakeed downthe road.
or to be handed my cheese burger from some naked dude at mc donalds.
ew.........no.
my species, mankind, did not evolve for millions of years to walk naked.
we created cloths.
and there quite good enough.
I don't have anything against nudist people.
I just think they can have there houses and there nudeist beaches.

[Aηdy]

I agree with koler and alex, and also we wont go back now, the clothes industry is waaay too big to just shut down

[MoveAlong]

I think that nudism is just plain fine! I am not a nudist, and I don't think that everyone should be allowed to do it, everywhere. There are nudist colonies, and those are fine. Once I'm about twenty or so and I'm hot (:D) then I would probably go and try nudism out. If people want to be nudists but they can't in a regular city and they want to keep their friends, then they'd have to either deside or compremise in my opinion.
The decision: To either not be a nudist or to be a nudist and move away
or
The comprimise: To talk over with your friends so they might move to a nudist colony with you.

I think that there should still be colonies for nudists, but people who are nudists a regular city can't go and walk around with everything hanging out (or hanging off).

[Bobby]

yes i agree with Kolte. If nudist want to be nude then move into a nude community. But I don't want to checked out at the grocery store by some topless 87 year old woman.

[R&b_Boy]

I ain't lying Bobby... gross

[0=]

You guys are missing the point, its not about looks, its about comfort. Personally, when I wear anything more than boxers, my nuts get sweaty as hell living here in san deigo, how is sweat hygienic? You sweat like mad everywhere when you live here, thats not hygienic, its stinky. Its also good for your skin to get more sun(a slong as you know your limit) because it produces more vitamin d. Not only is it good for you physically, its good for you psychologically.

[kolte]

your missing the point.
i don't want to see you naked.

[MoveAlong]

Ok, here.
kolte- I do not belive that popo is trying to force this on society. If they're unhygenic in your opinion, then why would you care? They have nudist colonies. By all of what you said, you would never want to go to one of those.

popo- If you feel confortble being naked-that's fine.

I thought that this wasn't a big issue but obviously I was wrong :|

[Whisper]

I am NOT a nudist
tried it when i was lil (went to a nudist beach)
Honestly i LOVE wearing baggy pants I find it extremly comftorable
and tims right about the hygenic part
I mean sum old hairy ass sitting on a public bench or bus -shudders-....noooo!!!

On the other hand I personally don't care if someone wanders around naked
like at a beach, in there yard, on a hiking trail, etc...
you won't see me doing it
but i don't care if they do
but some dude wandering naked with a boner by a school is wrong and i hope if that ever happens the RCMP shoot ta kill

[MoveAlong]

Your avatar's a bit too big cody :|

[Whisper]

maybe but i don't care

its not fucking up the page in either default style or silver blue
which r the only 2 i use

[0=]

Well you brought up a good point, erections. People think nudists are cray sex people, but actually erections and stiff nipples don't ccur very often, and when they do, nobody pays much attention. Somebody walking around with an erection will be asked to take a sit or leave at a resort.

On a different problem though, why do you care about how people look? If you don't want to look at someone, don't. Like on the internet, if you don't want to view something, don't. On the t.v., do you watch things you don't want to? Nope. There's no accounting for what offends people, and somebody who's fat has the same rights as someone who is skinny. I'm sure what I'm about to say rings true in most situations, who gives a fuck about your opinion, unless you have facts, people don't care. Everything I have said is fact, but "ew that person looks ugly" is an opinion. Deal with it.

[Whisper]

i'm using it as an example weither hes fat or not
i dont want to sit somewhere where someone elses naked sweaty ass has just been
its a personal choice..

[0=]

Who said its sweaty? Mine isn't sweaty, and I've been sittin here for over an hour.

[kolte]

dude, I think cody gets this.
its not that I care that you want to be naked and you think the human body is pretty etc.
you can live in your colonies or your yard beach etc.
I don't want to see it though.
I don't want to see naked people in the streets.
some overweight teen serving me at a restoront.
I wouldnt be able to eat my food becasue the dude who made it was naked and that would gross me out.
I don't want naked people running the streets.
you say your not perverted but what about the child molesters and stuff.
walking about naked near schoolyards.
Austin has a law that says basically, if a guy can do it a girl can.
that means that people are allowed to walk around topless in austin.
this is quite enough.
people say humans are ment to be naked but were not.
we have evolved in cloths and lost all of our hair.
we are naked hairless creatures that would die from exposure if we pranced naked in the weather.
I think you have every right in the privicy of your own home and colonies.
but not in a public street or public place.

[MoveAlong]

koler- Very good point :yes:

And Cody: Well I'm sorry. It fucks up my page. But forget it, this thread's about nudists. >: (

[0=]

Um kolder, for your information, we didn't start waring clothes till ong after w elost our hair, so tht point is invalid, and why is it that you find nudity so disgusting? If you notice, a young child has no shame about their body, and they're always curious about other peoples bodies,but innocently. they take their clothes off and you have to force them to put them on, basically brainwashing them. They don't understand why people wear clothes unless its cold. The thing that's unnatural is clothing.

[MoveAlong]

Dang popo- You're right too. We were originally naked beings.
Now I am not trying to argue with anyone, I'm just trying to sort this thing out.

popo- We were originally naked beings. Correct. But I do not belive it's brain-washing.

koler- I've been wondering the same question that popo asked you.

P-koler is trying to point out that people shouldn't be able to do it ANYWHERE ANYTIME, which is understandable.

K-Clothes protect us from weather. But maybe some nudist colonies are set in some place where it's fairly warm. We don't HAVE to wear clothes. But some think it's a good idea and will argue that it's the best idea. Kind of like religon

[Aηdy]

clothes give us warmth and safety, and somewhere to sroe ipods, phones, keys ect. and if your in hot sun they cant pretect you from sunburn, also human evolution has moved on!

[kolte]

well for one, I don't find nudity disgusting, just unfitting for a modern world.
we don't have to wear cloths.
but I'm gonna.
and about 90 percent of the rest of the world will to.
and we were 'humans' untill we losk the hair.
thus 'humans' have allways worn cloths.
for many different reasons.
mostly to protect the genitals.

[0=]

Actually wearing pants and such can make you less fertile if you're male. your testicles are supposed to be 2 degrees F cooler than the rest of your body, not to mention the fact that jeans squish your testicles when you sit.

[Whisper]

well considering we've been wearing clothing for thousands of years and were 6,000,000,000 strong.....i don't think pants hurt my "testicles" to much
the benifets far outweight the risks involved

EDIT

add to that the fact that i am the most northern member on VT and clothing is literally a necessity
during the winter without it i can literally die in minutes
during the summer i like wearing cloths!!
cloths goood!!
not to mention its harder to get hurt such as a deep cuts, scratches, insect bites even minor animal bites (.....i was attacked by a muskrat once....dont ask..) if your wearing tough fabric such as jeans
protecting your body from injury

I'm not "forced" to wear clothing
I choose to
I like to
as long as were not downtown, at a school, mall, resturant, etc... i dont care if ur naked like if were at the beach in the woods, etc... have at'er i dont care if you do
just dont expect me to

[0=]

I'd link to websites for people to educate theselves, but its considereed vulgar by the government.

[Whisper]

What because i choose not to wander around stark naked suddenly i'm ignorant?
ummm....no

[0=]

Don't put words in my mouth, I'm just saying it would help if you read up on both sides of an issue.

[Whisper]

dude theres not much to read up on...
cloths rule
they serve sooooo many functions its not even funny

using the we were born naked argument is pointless thats like saying we cant use any tecnology we've invented (computers, carsmedical equipment, weapons, can openers, etc...)
not to mention we used to live in trees and caves.....would you like to move into one of those humble abodes

i'm not saying theres something wrong with the human body
it is what has allowed us to become the dominant secies on this planet
its a beautiful work of evolution
that dosent mean cloths cant be worn

and you KNOW cloths work great for providing protection from the sun, wind, rain, cold, cuts and scrapes sum provide protection against bruising. They give you places to store crap like ur wallet or keys, etc...

i wonder what would happen if you fell off your motorcycle naked versus wearing protective clothing, a helmet and proper foot wear

because you know you were "born naked" so that means no shoes either

[0=]

Firstly, I would never rid e amotorcycle, secondly, people ahve enough sense that they shoudl know that they need protection when doing something like that. About the shoes, I hardly ever wear them, and my feet have become leathery on the bottom. I stepped on a rose thorn, it went in, but it didn't hurt and it didn't bleed.

[0=]

Firstly, I would never ride a motorcycle, secondly, people have enough sense(or at least I hope so) that they should know that they need protection when doing something like that. About the shoes, I hardly ever wear them, and my feet have become leathery on the bottom. I stepped on a rose thorn, it went in, but it didn't hurt and it didn't bleed.

What the heck? Somebody please delete the previous post, I don't know what happened.

[Whisper]

Firstly, I would never ride a motorcycle, secondly, people have enough sense(or at least I hope so) that they should know that they need protection when doing something like that. About the shoes, I hardly ever wear them, and my feet have become leathery on the bottom. I stepped on a rose thorn, it went in, but it didn't hurt and it didn't bleed.

What the heck? Somebody please delete the previous post, I don't know what happened.

Firstly I love motorcycles

Secondly bout the foot thing....thats just grose
and I can run threw, walk on, stomp on a bed of shattered glass with my runners or hikers and not feel a thing

With the proper clothing I can survive the nasty cold i have to deal with where i live theres winters where it can reach temps as bad as -47c
the human body can't physically survive more then a few minutes in -20c
so temps of basically -50c....would present a problem

I can swim comftorably in freezing cold water with just a simple wet suit

more to the point cloths r just nice!!
to wear everyday ingeneral

[0=]

Try living down here, you'll get it. I understand that in some areas they're necesarry, and about the broken glass and stuff, common sense maybe?

[Melchi0r]

your missing the point.
i don't want to see you naked.


Who says you have to?

Like Popo said, you guys are missing the point. We don't want people to be naked all the time, everyone and everywhere. We are just saying that we wish people would acknowledge the fact that nudity is OK for comfort, and it's even supported by the Bible, so why's it so bad? And someone said that you'd get mad cold in the winter. Well, then you wear clothes. Nudists don't HATE clothes, we just acknowledge the fact that while clothes can be worn for comfort, sometimes it's comfortable to NOT wear clothes, and that there's no point in covering the human body, because there's nothing bad about nudity.

And people keep saying stuff like, "Maybey you should move to a nudist colony."

A) We're not 18 yet. And our parents won't move to a nudist colony just because their kids like to be nude.
B) Nudist colonies are pretty much where people move when they can afford to not have a solid career. Most nudists move there when they're retired or something.
C) What's wrong with walking around your house in the buff, and skinnydipping in your own or a good friend's pool (if they allow you to, of course.) And for vacations and trips, why not just go to a nudist resort or nude beach? It's not like one can't be a nudist unless they live in a nudist colony.

[Whisper]

C) What's wrong with walking around your house in the buff, and skinnydipping in your own or a good friend's pool (if they allow you to, of course.) And for vacations and trips, why not just go to a nudist resort or nude beach? It's not like one can't be a nudist unless they live in a nudist colony.

I never said you cant do that
if u'd read my posts I actually said I don't have a problem with that
I just dont want to see u naked at a resturant, mall, downtown, etc..

[Melchi0r]

...did we say we wanted to be nude in a restaurant, mall, downtown, etc...?

I just wish that nudity was more normal and that nudists weren't looked upon as being hippies, old people, etc.

[MoveAlong]

your missing the point.
i don't want to see you naked.
Who says you have to?

Like Popo said, you guys are missing the point. We don't want people to be naked all the time, everyone and everywhere.
That's what I've been trying to say. :(

[0=]

What exactly is your point?

[Bobby]

That two naked people if they touch eachother that would be public sexual interaction... Which in some places is illeagl.

[Charlotte]

I am perfectly happy with the nudists on their little colony. They can stay there, but as for everywhere, that's just disgusting.

Imagine walking and seeing a woman with an STD.:eek::eek::eek::eek::eek:

[Melchi0r]

That two naked people if they touch eachother that would be public sexual interaction... Which in some places is illeagl.

Only if they touch each other's parts, and if it's an accident, then it's not illegal, is it?

You guys are all acting like nudists want to eliminate clothes and have the world clothes-free.

1. We know that clothes have to be worn sometimes for hygeine/comfort/warmth, but when it's comfortable to be nude, at least in the privacy of your own home, why not just be nude? And for hygeine, in nudist resorts it's required to sit on towels. There's your hygeine.
2. It's just not fair to make everyone be nude.
3. I am perfectly happy with the nudists on their little colony. They can stay there, but as for everywhere, that's just disgusting.

Imagine walking and seeing a woman with an STD.

NUDISTS DON'T ALL LIVE IN COLONIES!!! Most of them DO NOT! Most of them are normal people who for meeting the first time, you wouldn't know they'd be nudists until they told you!!! Nudists who aren't in colonies, which are about 99% of them, stay clothed when they have to but when they can be naked, like at home and such, they get naked!

Nudists ARE NOT naked the whole time. Common sense people!! Nudists know they can't be naked in public and they accept that!

Most of this stuff is going wayy waay over some people's heads.

[Charlotte]

It's obvious I was talking about in public, Sherlock. Whatever you do in your home is none of mine or anyone's place to say.

[MoveAlong]

Sorry accidental post :whoops:
Just delete it.

[0=]

My question is, how the fuck is bumping into each other while naked sexual contact? This is the biggest misconception on earth. Nudity is not inherently sexual as american society depicts it. If I accidentally bumped into a naked woman, would you say I sexually violated her by touching her breasts? Personally I have no idea where you people get these insane ideas.

[Whisper]

....ur kidding right?

[0=]

? what is it that you don't understand?

[Whisper]

oh i understand

popo93 tell me exactly where you think full nudity should be acceptable

[kolte]

oh i understand

popo93 tell me exactly where you think full nudity should be acceptable

Exactly.
where.
in your house, in your colony....good.
in public, no.

[Dante]

I agree being nude is comfortable, nothjnbg really to constrict you. Being naked in your home or a nudist colony is fine. Noone can really stop you. BUT, it should only be confined to those places.

first of all being naked in public, could have some serious risks, there are so many airborne bacteria out there, that can go into sensitive places like the urethra( i think thats what its called) or the vagina, so there is a cause for alarm when your health is being jeaopardized.

As others put, I wouldnt want anyone serving me food naked( unless my wife or gf :), whether they be fat, skinny, old or young. That is just nasty.

and as for the bumping into one another thing, you can get crabs by sitting on a toilet seat, so im sure u can get it if u bump into someone in the wrong area of the body.

[Melchi0r]

Again, the "nudists should move to colonies" bit. Eh, no.

Second, are Popo and I in the belief that nudity should be allowed in public? No! We just want some public places to allow nudity, like a few beaches and parks, because if you aren't free to take your clothes off or keep them on (even in just a few places) then you aren't free at all.

[0=]

Heres the thing, freedom. Freedom means choice, you are supposed to be able to choose what you see, read and hear, but you aren't. It's regulated like evrything else because people don't like being offended, but freedom also means being offensive. Choice is the ssence of this country, and it's not there all the time like it should be. People should be able to choose if they want to wear clothes, you can choose to not look at said people if you find them offensive, but because it's offensive, its illegal. Think about how crappy our country would be if anything offensive were illegal?

Another thing, don't give me bullshit about health. How do you think we lived before clothes? If you notice, nudists take the common courtesy of putting a towel down where they sit. Also, you think we don't have any common sense, obviously you're going to wear something in a kitchen, and I'm not even saying that it as to be allowed everywhere, but if you open up some public places, then we'll be happy, and it will also allow us to show people how we really are.

About laws, it's technically legal to be naked, ina non-sexual context, but because you weirdos consider nudity in itself sexual, that gets innocent people arrested and charged for sex crimes.

[Melchi0r]

Yeah, today I read a story about a woman who suntans nude in her backyard and her neighbor got so offended he took her to court for it, and videotaped her sunbathing nude as evidence!!

Okay, buddy:

If it bothered you that your neighbor was sunbathing naked in her backyard:
a) It's on her property so she wasn't doing anything illegal. (I mean, it isn't like she broke into his house and started ransacking the place nude.
b) She didn't mean to be seen so it wasn't indecent exposure or the like.
c) If it offended you to see someone naked... THEN JUST STOP LOOKING!!

[kolte]

you don't know the circumstances.
maybe there wasnt a fence.
maybe he had small children.
maybe he asked, because he had small children, that she didnt and she continued.
you don't know.
don't judge when you don't know.

[0=]

Please, tell me how small children are harmed, or anyone for that matter, by seeing a naked body?

[kolte]

dude, I don't know about you.
but i respect your lifestyle and I think you have every right to live it.
but please, respect mine and understand that since you are a minority, you will not get your way.
because the majority finds public exposure offensive.

[0=]

Very nice, I respect you very much, but in order to get anything done ina debate, we need to understand each other, just open up.

How does seeing the human body harm anybody?

[Whisper]

oh yea cause i'd love to go out into my backyard and see the rest of this

http://www.film.gen.tr/resim/filmler/austinpowers3goldmember/resim3.jpg

[0=]

Hmmm from that argument you're just being selfish, but you still haven't told me how it would harm people.

[kolte]

can it literally harm sombody?
no
can it offend sombody? yes
can it fuel perverts on the streets? yes
what about children?
should they be allowed to be naked?
then child pornogrophy would have to be legal.
because children where allowed to walk naked.
your idea though good in small doses *house, colony*
is not actually good in the public vview.
i'm sorry.
I'm not gonna open up to it.
because i see the bad outweighing the good.

[Melchi0r]

Nudist isn't all about sex, though. You can look through a good nudist website like ClothesFree and all the pics of people enjoying naturism are very non-sexual. Actually, it's the fact that people wear clothing that makes nudity sexual. What if you saw breasts or penises all the time? It wouldn't faze you, in fact, it'd be so normal you wouldn't think anything of it. So clothes are a perversion, not nudity.

But I am not saying the world should be clothes-free, I am just saying that nudity should be taken more lightly.

Plus, what harm does it make if children see an adult naked? When you're a child, you seem to know that nudity is O.K. but as you get older, the adults in your life brainwash you to believe it's bad.

Also, if, let's say, you went into your backyard which let's just pretend was fenced to sunbathe a bit in your B-day suit, and your neighbor happened to see you naked, get totally offended, and sue you, that would be a perfect example of an anti-Democracy.

To finish off my argument, I leave you with a quote said by Corky Stanton:

"Sure, some people might believe they are offended by nude bathers, but, if you never encounter anything that offends you in your community, you are not living in a free society."

[kolte]

Dude, I'm not brainwashed to think nudity is bad.
its not.
don't be stupid, I dont' think that and I don't think anyone believes that.
I think that its innapropriote in the public.
if you say it should be choice.
then its my choice, and the majority of the united states choice to say no, we don't want naked people running the streets.

[Melchi0r]

I'm not saying nudity should be allowed in all public places, I just think that for those people who'd like to be nude in public, we should stride to keep nudist resorts and beaches open.

BTW, where'd you get that pic in your signature?

[DouggyO.o]

im not a nudest and id otn ever want to be, sure seeing nude women who have nice bodys would kick ass but not men(cuz im str8)
i just personaly think that it coudl be to creepy

iw ould be afraid of having a boner too, all day long i would be walking around with one which would be mega emabarising

[0=]

Once again, why the fuck is sex the first thing that comes to your mind?

[Melchi0r]

Once again, why the fuck is sex the first thing that comes to your mind?

It more seems like he thinks we want a clothes-free world... it wouldn't be gay to see a naked man, even if he was ripped/"well equipped". It's only gay to have sex with a man. And nudity NO ES sex!

[redcar]

im not a nudest and id otn ever want to be, sure seeing nude women who have nice bodys would kick ass but not men(cuz im str8 )

whats wrong with seeing a guy naked? is it because you are st8? like i am gay, and i wouldnt run and shield my eyes if i saw a girl naked. like being naked as said above is not sex or anything sexual. like when people say things like that i come to two conclusions, that they are either insecure with their own sexuality or that you dont want people to maybe think you could be gay. which i think is bullshit, from my own experience the most str8 guys i know are the ones whoc ouldnt give a shit being naked around another guy.

[kolte]

ok, wait.
what the fuck are you arguing about?
your fucking arguing nothing.
why?
you say you just want a few beaches and parks and such.
you have fucking beaches and parks.
you say you don't want it public.
its not.
I don't want it to be public.
keep it to your fucking colonies.
why are you arguing.
you must not have anything fucking better to do.

[Whisper]

whats wrong with seeing a guy naked? is it because you are st8? like i am gay, and i wouldnt run and shield my eyes if i saw a girl naked. like being naked as said above is not sex or anything sexual. like when people say things like that i come to two conclusions, that they are either insecure with their own sexuality or that you dont want people to maybe think you could be gay. which i think is bullshit, from my own experience the most str8 guys i know are the ones whoc ouldnt give a shit being naked around another guy.

Yea I agree Alex thats like being terrified of the guys changeroom which is just retarted
i'm straight
I dont care

and koltes right
you guys are arguing to have...what you already have!
I mean honestly
thats just redundant

and a hot naked girl IS a turn on
its a FACT of life
you can do your high and mighty moral crap all you want
but when push comes to shove
your no diffrent then us

[0=]

ok, wait.
what the fuck are you arguing about?
your fucking arguing nothing.
why?
you say you just want a few beaches and parks and such.
you have fucking beaches and parks.
you say you don't want it public.
its not.
I don't want it to be public.
keep it to your fucking colonies.
why are you arguing.
you must not have anything fucking better to do.


koler, stfu bitch. We don't have many parks and beaches, and this is a debate to explore people's thoughts, if you wanna start complaining, then get outta my thread.

[Whisper]

Canada (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canada)

Ontario (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ontario) All areas of Ontario, unless otherwise specified by town or city by-laws, allow both males and females to be topless in public.
Hanlan's Point Beach (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hanlan%27s_Point_Beach) is a sandy beach just a 15-minute ferry ride from downtown Toronto (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toronto), Ontario (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ontario). It is recognised by the city as an official Clothing Optional beach.
Wreck Beach (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wreck_Beach) is the second largest clothing-optional beach in North America (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_America) with over 100,000 visitors each year. It is located in Vancouver (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vancouver), British Columbia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Columbia) on the north arm of the Fraser River (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fraser_River).
Oka, Quebec (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oka%2C_Quebec), about 40 km from Montreal (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Montreal).United States (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States)


California (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/California)

Black's Beach (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black%27s_Beach), in La Jolla (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/La_Jolla%2C_California), a community of San Diego (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/San_Diego), is possibly the largest de facto (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/De_facto) clothing optional beach in the United States. Near to this beach can be found the San Onofre Beach (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/San_Onofre_Beach) (near San Clemente (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/San_Clemente%2C_California)).
DeAnza Springs Nudist Resort (http://www.deanzasprings.com/) - a nudist resort in Southern California
Deep Creek Volunteers (http://www.deepcreekvolunteers.com/) - Hot Springs in Apple Valley, CaliforniaFlorida (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Florida)

Cypress Cove Nudist Resort & Spa (http://www.cypresscoveresort.com/), a family-oriented nudist resort in Central Florida.
Haulover Beach (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haulover_Beach), in Miami-Dade County (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miami-Dade_County) (between Sunny Isles Beach, Florida (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sunny_Isles_Beach%2C_Florida) and Bal Harbour (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bal_Harbour)), is the most popular nude beach in North America.
Playalinda Beach (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Playalinda_Beach), part of Canaveral National Seashore (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canaveral_National_Seashore), has a history of allowing nudity.Kansas (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kansas)

Lake Edun (http://www.lakeedun.com/) is a family oriented naturist resort located in Topeka, Kansas.New Jersey (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Jersey)

Gunnison Beach (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gunnison_Beach), a part of the National Park Service (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Park_Service)’s Gateway National Recreation Area (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gateway_National_Recreation_Area) in Sandy Hook, New Jersey (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sandy_Hook%2C_New_Jersey) is the largest clothing-optional beach in the Northeastern United States (there are several other public beaches on Sandy Hook where nudity is forbidden). In 1999 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1999), New Jersey (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Jersey) Governor (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Governor) Christine Todd Whitman (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christine_Todd_Whitman) signed into law a bill sponsored by State (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/State) Senator (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Senator) James S. Cafiero (R-Dist.1) that prohibits all types of nudism on state or municipal (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Municipal) beaches (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beach), making Gunnison Beach the only legal nude beach in the state, since it is located on federal land not subject to state or municipal regulations.Oregon (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oregon)

Rooster Rock (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rooster_Rock) State Park along the Columbia River (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Columbia_River).
Collins Beach (http://www.orcoba.org/wst_page5.html)(on Sauvie Island (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sauvie_Island)) near Portland (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Portland%2C_Oregon).Texas (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Texas)

Hippie Hollow Park (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hippie_Hollow_Park), on the shore of Lake Travis (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lake_Travis) northwest of Austin (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Austin%2C_Texas), traditionally used for nude swimming since the formation of the lake in the late 1940s. The park was officially placed under management by Travis County (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Travis_County%2C_Texas) in the mid-1980s and remains officially clothing-optional, although it was closed to minors in 1995. (See the article on Hippie Hollow Park (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hippie_Hollow_Park) for details on why that happened.)Vermont (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vermont)

The Ledges (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=The_Ledges&action=edit), on the Harriman Reservoir (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Harriman_Reservoir&action=edit) in Wilmington, VT (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wilmington%2C_VT).Washington (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Washington)

Dogfish Point, on Puget Sound (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Puget_Sound) in Bellingham, WA (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bellingham%2C_WA)Miscellaneous

There are two places in the US with nudist youth camps: Lake Como, Florida (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Lake_Como%2C_Florida&action=edit) and Shangri-La, Arizona (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arizona).
A camp at White Tail Park, Southampton County, Virginia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Southampton_County%2C_Virginia) may be discontinued: even though the camps are strictly non-sexual, in 2004 the commonwealth law of Virginia, enforced by Attorney General (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Attorney_General) Jerry W. Kilgore (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jerry_W._Kilgore), banned nudist youth camps unless a parent, grandparent or legal guardian is present, citing dangers from sexual predators. [12] (http://nac.oshkosh.net/Legislative_Bill_Texts/2004/VA_2004_HB_158/va_2004_hb_158.html)
The ACLU (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ACLU), the park, three boys, ages 11, 15 and 17, and two girls, 10 and 12, and their parents (three couples) have challenged the new law on June 29 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/June_29), 2004, arguing that it violates the constitutional right to privacy [13] (http://www.wtopnews.com/?sid=218158&nid=25).
Pasco County, Florida (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pasco_County%2C_Florida) has seven nudist resorts.

United Kingdom (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Kingdom)

Morfa Dyffryn (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Morfa_Dyffryn), Gwynedd (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gwynedd)
Budleigh Salterton (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Budleigh_Salterton), Devon (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Devon)
Studland Bay (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Studland_Bay), Dorset (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dorset) - most famous UK nudist beach, now officially approved (after years of controversy) by landowner the National Trust (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Trust_for_Places_of_Historic_Interest_or_Natural_Beauty)
Slapton Sands (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slapton_Sands), Devon
Blackgang Beach, near Blackgang Chine (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blackgang_Chine), Isle of Wight (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isle_of_Wight)
Brighton (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brighton), East Sussex (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/East_Sussex)
Birling Gap (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Birling_Gap), East Sussex (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/East_Sussex)
Fairlight Glen (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fairlight_Glen), East Sussex (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/East_Sussex)
Leysdown (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Leysdown&action=edit)East Beach, Kent (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kent)
St Osyth (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/St_Osyth), Essex (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Essex%2C_England)
Corton (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corton%2C_Suffolk) Beach, Suffolk (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suffolk)
Holkham (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holkham) Beach, Norfolk (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norfolk)
Cleat's Shore (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Cleat%27s_Shore&action=edit), Isle of Arran (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isle_of_Arran)
Portsmouth (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Portsmouth) Beach (Eastney radar station), Hampshire (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hampshire)SOURCE ~ Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Main_Page)

[Melchi0r]

koler, stfu bitch. We don't have many parks and beaches, and this is a debate to explore people's thoughts, if you wanna start complaining, then get outta my thread.

Popo, don't swear back. You're sinking to his level.

Well even though we already have those nude beaches and parks, the real topic of this thread is "Is nudity really that bad to see?"

[MoveAlong]

Everybody stop. Just stop.

Ok, now I was asked back by username unknown 0_o to come back to this thread. I gave up on it because frankly I was tired of it.


Now, what are we debating here? Do you guys want to have more colonies? Do you want it legalised so that people can be nude anywhere? Did you originally just want to see other peoples opinions on nudism but when people thougth it was gross, you stated that they didn't understand the point? In most of this thread, are you on a mission to help people understand? Or maybe accept nudism even though you might not want it in their or all communities?

Popo or Potterfile say yes to any one or more of these and I will get started.

[Charlotte]

if you wanna start complaining, then get outta my thread.

It's HIS forum, Sherlock.

[0=]

And its my thread. The purpose of this thread is to discuss the subject as a whole, just move form topic to topic, but currently we wanna try to understand people's views on the issue, and why they believe what they do.But, they aren't being very responsive and are just saying uhhhh that's gross insetad of helping us to unserstand their point of view.

Black's Beach, in La Jolla, a community of San Diego, is possibly the largest de facto clothing optional beach in the United States. Near to this beach can be found the San Onofre Beach (near San Clemente).

Ha, it's illegal to be nude there, the cops go easy, but people do get arrested

[MoveAlong]

Ok, now listen. Some people are saying ew and nothing else. If they do that, they don't even deserve to participate or help in the disscusion of this thread. But koler likes to argue -_- Plus, it's his duty to watch the forum he moderates because he was selected by an Administrator to do his job. This doesn't mean he has to participate in every topic in this forum.

Koler, if you don't like all the bold tags I used, you can remove them of course. But I bolded them to get my point out my way in my tone.


Now popo, try to scroll up and don't just reply to the very last post. Go back all the way to where you left off (which I did, at page omm 3 or 4 I belive) read and then post. Now, it's either you or Potterfile who answers my questions, but I'm not sure I even trust you.

P.S, you have 100+ posts :D congrats :wave:

[Melchi0r]

Just discussing all aspects of nudism is probably what this thread is about. I think some people not knowing exactly what it is all about made the arguments sprout. And people thinking that Popo and I were saying, "We want people to run around nude!" I would love that but it's unrealistic so I'm not even going to say anything more about it.

Here's on issue to discuss:

Summer. It's so frickin' hot, in the 90's already. Now is the best time to be nude, it feels so good and refreshing. So, if it was too hot, would you remove your clothing for comfort?

Oh, another issue:

Social nudism. Is it o.k. to be nude with other people who are also in the nuddy? What limitations should be set in an everyone-naked setting?

[MoveAlong]

Ok, now this part requires an open mind. You have to open your mind and think of how the other person feels if you were them:

When you were born, you were born into a family of nudists. Now, the first thing you might think is "eww that's gross". But you are already living, already know just clothes. But since you are a baby, you are a blank disk. Anything can shape you from being a killer to being a superstar to being a executive office worker. So you get used to being nude all your life.
Ok, now this might seem a little weird since you are still thinking about yourself. You cannot relate anything that is so ingrooved into you. Oh wait!!!

Religion. Have you been a Christian all your life? A Jew? Can you imagine anything else? Are you so convinced that your God is the true God and your beliefs are correct?
YOU were raised that way. That is all you know. That's how somebody could relate this to nudism.


Let's flip this over.
You are used to clothes all your life and not nudism.
That was easy. So this is how green the grass is on the other side.
You might think ew becuase your parents didn't know how to explain all the sexual things at an early age, so...hmm...

When there's something new that you don't understand and you're kind of discusted (KIND OF) then you say what? Ew. Just like :notangel: Homosexuality :notangel:
Ok, so you guys think it's kind of discusting. IN YOUR MIND. But, what about the other person. Alright sirs it's ok for you to be nude in your own houses.
-We want more than that
--You have to understand it's discusting

Road block. Stop saying it's discusting, we already know you think that.

Read these quotes

Here's on issue to discuss:

Summer. It's so frickin' hot, in the 90's already. Now is the best time to be nude, it feels so good and refreshing. So, if it was too hot, would you remove your clothing for comfort?
Other people arn't used to this. You might. But here's the thing I'm still not understanding...
Now, what are we debating here? Do you guys want to have more colonies? Do you want it legalised so that people can be nude anywhere? Did you originally just want to see other peoples opinions on nudism but when people thougth it was gross, you stated that they didn't understand the point? In most of this thread, are you on a mission to help people understand? Or maybe accept nudism even though you might not want it in their or all communities?
Party one = Nudists; Potterfile1991 & Popo93
Party two = let's see...koler, *}Whisper{*, others? 0_o
Mediator = Not good for me to declare myself this, but what the heck :roll:

Oh, another issue:

Social nudism. Is it o.k. to be nude with other people who are also in the nuddy? What limitations should be set in an everyone-naked setting?Umm yes I belive so, as long as a group of people doesn't just hop on in-front of everyone.


Still, I'm not getting what we're debating here. Is nudism ok? Does party one want to spread notice about it saying nudism is ok? What does party two want to prove? That nudism should be banned?
Will the mediator find a boyfriend? >_< I mean--

[Melchi0r]

Party one wants everyone to understand nudism. Not say, "That's cool, I'll become a nudist too," just to know what it's about.

I would really like to know what party two thinks.

And, I hope you find a b/f Michael. >_<

This is what Popo said in the very beginning of this thread:

Basically, I want to establish what people think of nudity and nudity in mixed company on a moral level and a societal level.


But let's keep in mind Popo and I aren't looking for a clothes-free world, just a world where nudism thrives.

[MoveAlong]

Michael? Who's that?

[Melchi0r]

Damn. Donnie, then. *feels like a dumbass now*

[0=]

I'm Michael. If you live here where it gets hot, it isn't just uncomfortable, it can hurt. You know how your scrotum contracts and expands to regulate tempurature? Well, it stays stretched to its full a lot, thus making your testicles sore from just living, solution is to cool down, but it's not legal anywhere in public, and at most homes not allowed anywhere but your room. As for the ladies, I'd like to hear how the heat affects your breasts and vagina, probably not very pleasant either.

The main point is for comfort's sake, but before reading on, take five minutes to skim through the puberty forums. Done? Good, notice how they all have obvious stupid questions, they ahve no idea what's going on with their bodies, in a nudist environment you actually see your friends and family go through puberty, thus making your teen years much more comfortable.

Oh and a little note, let's be open about our bodies in this thread, no slang, just talk frankly, it heps to build a more comfortable environment, this isn't an argument, it's a discussion to understand one another's views and culture. :)

[kolte]

what is my view on nudity.
I think everyone should have the right.
in there own home.
in certin parks and colonies.
I would be willing to go so far to say certin zones could be allowed.
would I go to any?
its a little taboo for me.
so no.
thats not my fancy.
am I anti nude?
no.
but when it comes to the public yes.
those are my views.
I have not changed them from the start.

[saucysister]

We've worn clothes for thousands of years! You want to change it now? Sorry Buddy, but you're fucked.

[MoveAlong]

what is my view on nudity.
I think everyone should have the right.
in there own home.
in certin parks and colonies.
I would be willing to go so far to say certin zones could be allowed.
would I go to any?
its a little taboo for me.
so no.
thats not my fancy.
am I anti nude?
no.
but when it comes to the public yes.
those are my views.
I have not changed them from the start.
Now, if that's the case, then I ask, what are we arguing about? I'll say this again because I belive it's true:
Party one, do you want to help people understand that nudism isn't wrong?


We've worn clothes for thousands of years! You want to change it now? Sorry Buddy, but you're fucked.Why is he fucked? They have already stated in this thread that they don't want the whole world to be "clothes free". I'm pretty sure they don't want to convert the world.

[Melchi0r]

We've worn clothes for thousands of years! You want to change it now? Sorry Buddy, but you're fucked.

Haven't you read the latest posts? We don't WANT a clothes-free world! Just a world that's nudist-friendly. Actually, this whole thread is just a discussion to understand one another's views and culture.

[0=]

We've worn clothes for thousands of years! You want to change it now? Sorry Buddy, but you're fucked.

If you don't have anything intelligent to say, keep your mouth shut. That should be a law, but this is a free country. We haven't been wearing clothes in shame for very long at all.

Koler, I would like to understand your views better, why nudity is taboo to you. This threa dis for a frank discussion to better our understanding of one another's views and culture, I'm not asking you to change your mind, but to keep it open.

I shall repeat my inquiry to the ladies, how does heat affect you? Does it cause vaginal itching, uncomfortable sweating under your breasts? Currently I'd like to assess how heat affects people's comfort clothed and unclothed, we'll keep discussin how clothing affects people and such, thenw e'll get down to the deeper questions about our feelings after we've gotten comfortable. This is an intellectual discussion, and so far I've gotten I don't like nudity in public, I'm fine with you in your own homes, but nobody seems to want to discuss the current topics.

[saucysister]

If you don't have anything intelligent to say, keep your mouth shut. That should be a law, but this is a free country.



Just because I dont agree with your sick nude fantasys doesnt mean you have to be a bitch about it and single me out. I can post whatever I want as long as the rules are followed. This is a public forum and there's no intellectual requirement to post.

[redcar]

hey calm yourselves people, lets not have a fight about this!:)

[kolte]

If you don't have anything intelligent to say, keep your mouth shut. That should be a law, but this is a free country. We haven't been wearing clothes in shame for very long at all.

Koler, I would like to understand your views better, why nudity is taboo to you. This threa dis for a frank discussion to better our understanding of one another's views and culture, I'm not asking you to change your mind, but to keep it open.

I shall repeat my inquiry to the ladies, how does heat affect you? Does it cause vaginal itching, uncomfortable sweating under your breasts? Currently I'd like to assess how heat affects people's comfort clothed and unclothed, we'll keep discussin how clothing affects people and such, thenw e'll get down to the deeper questions about our feelings after we've gotten comfortable. This is an intellectual discussion, and so far I've gotten I don't like nudity in public, I'm fine with you in your own homes, but nobody seems to want to discuss the current topics.

Hey, stop being an arrogent fuck ok?
and this isnt "your" tread.
this isnt "my" tread.
this is "our" tread, meaning vt.
you got that?
I don't want any talking back, I don't want any more arrogence.
if people would please share there opionions, and enjoy themselves.
if you wanted a nice conversation, try the chatroom.
this is a debate.
that means one side is against another.
if you wanted to have a savvy chat, why did you put this in the debate forum?

[Melchi0r]

Popo's not having "sick nude fantasies." That would be sexual. Nudity isn't sexual. The end.

And really, Kolte, where'd you get that pic in your signature? You seem to like nude photography.

[kolte]

I don't think i necessary like nude photogopy.
I'm a fan of the artist who did this.
and I'm a fan of all his work.
but I'm sorry, I won't tell you, no offense.
evertime I tell sombody about were i found my signiture, they copy it.
and that pisses me off.

[Whisper]

but I'm sorry, I won't tell you, no offense.
evertime I tell sombody about were i found my signiture, they copy it.
and that pisses me off.

I don't blaim you
I've had similar problems with avatars signatures msn names etc...

[MoveAlong]

Hold on a cotton-pickin' minute.


Originally Posted by popo93
a discussio tno understand one another's views and culture.

Originally Posted by popo93
nobody seems to want to discuss the current topics.

In my opinion there are not enough people to discuss and add their views. I still see a roadblock. Ok, so we know about Kolte's signature picture now. Good and fine :santa:


Koler, I would like to understand your views better, why nudity is taboo to you. This threa dis for a frank discussion to better our understanding of one another's views and culture, I'm not asking you to change your mind, but to keep it open.Koler, if you please. :)

[0=]

The reason I posted it is this forum is because the more intellectual people generally go to debate forums. Now if you'd stop arguing and just discuss the topic, that would be helpful.

[Charlotte]

If you dont want to argue, then get this out of the debate forum.

[kolte]

Ok you guys, lets get back on topic.
I would hate to have to lock this.

I guess its not that I think nudity is taboo or gross.
I don't.
However, I think its innapropriote in a public place.
that why I agree with you popo.
you should have more parks, more zones, more things of that nature.
nudity should be thought of as a less vile thing.
but then again, I think I prefere cloths.
there an expression of your individuality.
and they keep me warm or keep my feet comperatble.
anyways, thats just my opinion.

[MoveAlong]

Alright that is a good opinion. I agree with that. Now, I'm not so sure where Cody stands :santa:

Before that, I would like to quote myself on the nude debate in LaughsAplenty, where it never got this hot/debatable :D

Hey this is my first post :mrgreen: Well I don't know how I'm going to do it but one of these days I'm going to visit a nudist colony (probably when I'm hot). I think it's an intresting lifestyle and I would like to try it out. I'm for you guys because it's not that big of a deal. They have tons of nudist beaches across from the U.S. :razz:

Read the sig. Takin' the long way around. I'm not gonna settle down. I'm gonna have fun in my life. :cool:

[Melchi0r]

Kolte has a very good point.

I do enjoy clothes. They are expressive, and I am very good at picking out the best t-shirts. I am frickin' collecting t-shirts. Yet, I just think that there are times where it's comfortable to be nude, and why not just strip off every now and then for comfort? Besides, nudism increases body acceptance and confidence. I guess being seen nude and trying not to care helps with that.

[check it]

:cool: :D :D I like to be naked personally:D :D :cool:

[Melchi0r]

That's awesome! Why do you like to be naked?

For me, sometimes, nudity is more comfortable than wearing clothes, but still, sometimes I prefer to wear clothes. It'd just be cool if nudity was as common as clothes.

[0=]

Yeah, but living here, you could get away with it almost year round.

[Melchi0r]

Ah, nice... but not legally?

[0=]

In your own house etc, hell yeah.

[Melchi0r]

Clothes cause shame!

[MoveAlong]

No no, don't say that. That could recoil.

[Melchi0r]

True.

But here's one thing. Nudity isn't the direct cause of perversion. It's the fact that nudity and therefore breasts and such aren't the norm to see, and since we believe as a society that they are sexual, we get more excited when you see them. So the cause of pervertedness is clothes!

In the WPR there's a thread about that kid sexually exploited and stuff. Those perverts (except for the pediatricians who see naked kids all time time but is still sickly turned on by it) probably were sickos as it was, and the fact that kids aren't running around naked made them want to see kids naked.

Get the gist?

[MoveAlong]

I had to read it over :P But I do get it. It's so true that clothes make people think that breasts ect are only sexual objekts. The way nudism sounds, you see people naked, but you don't even look at their privates. You don't even think about it because you see them all the time every day.

[0=]

Well we don't actually, we're the only one's in our families who go nude. Just get in the right mind-set and you can view the world however you want.

[MoveAlong]

I'm sorry I forgot you were the only nudes in the town! :P

Well you don't mind it, and isn't it true that you don't really even pay attention to down there when looking on a site such as ClothesFree ect?

[Melchi0r]

Well we shouldn't even be getting stiffies looking at pics of nudes. Unless it's porno. But porny is a bit manipulative in my opinion... actually I never get hard looking at naked people. Breasts aren't sexual, so why do guys act like they're getting such humongous boners looking at them??

[MoveAlong]

Well, maybe if you belive in :notangel:Evolution:notangel:, it might be a survival instinct. It might be guys see breasts and think of babies, and then think of sex, and then have it, making babies, to continue the population.

[Melchi0r]

You should submit that to Harvard!

[MoveAlong]

The straight/bi guys would be all over it XD

[Melchi0r]

I just argued about nudism on a religous POV, and he couldn't contradict me, so he just BS'ed.

[0=]

Breasts are sexual because they're hidden 0: Right now it's down to the nipple, so soon youll see the top of bikinis disappearing.

[kolte]

nah, the things we find sexual such as brests, vagina, penis, eyes, lips, hair. all of these things are found sexual because of evolution. you see when man stood, (not like he just one day stood up but you get the jist) when man stood he then had a face to face look at his partner, and thus, through the power of time, eventually began to communicate with other humans. also, whatever men liked about women, women evolved to meet mans attraction. and, just like women, men evolved to meet womans attraction.

its much more complicated then that, but thats the jist.
i'm not gonna go explaining away when nobody gives a damn about intellegence anymore.
brests and penis and vagina are covered by cloths not because we are ashamed necessarily, but because these are purly sexual organs.
the clitoras has evolved to be the ONLY organ in the human body that is used purly for sex. *the more you know*
in fact, in america we cover our genitals with cloths becasue they are kept soley for our partner. its a special kind of relationship thing.
your save your body for your lover only.
in the middle east, as most of you know, even the face of the women are covered because its only to be exposed to the husband or children because it is beautiful and sexual.
you see.
its cultural, and instinctive.
but if you want to go naked, go ahead.
your right.
it shouldnt be seen as so offensive.
its not really.

BY THE WAY, THIS IS THE 10000th POST IN THE DEBATE FORUM WHOOOHOOO

[Zazu]

Well I dont see whats so wrong with being nude and why it has become such a taboo nowadays. The human body is something that no one can deny, so why can't you show it by being nude? I'm not personaly a nudist but those are my views.

[0=]

Breasts have no sexual role, they feed babies. the human body can be seen as sexual in soem circumstances and as non-sexual in others. Everyone in america only sees sex, make sex and nudity less taboo and poeple will be more open.

[Melchi0r]

Yeah, sorry, but that "saving your genitals for only your partner to see" isn't too well-worded. I don't really care too much who sees my stuff (well, maybe as an adult I'd care less) but it's just who touches and does stuff with them...

So it's not not letting anyone see but your partner, because genitals aren't only sexual objects.

[[email protected]//]

personally, i dont care if someone feels they want to be naked. It is their opinion of how they want to be so i wouldnt mind. For me, i dont think i would want to always walk around public naked. I would i guess sometimes if i was in the mood but im no nudist

[Melchi0r]

I have decided to bump this topic!
I'd like to bring up the issue of body shame being taught to you by your parents and family as you grow up. I personally believe body shame is unnatural and the biggest factors in gymnophobic people is that they were brought up to show disdain for nudity and the human body.

[thesphinx]

i am not a nudist but i am not against it so i chose other cause i wouldn't freak out of someone walked naked down the street.

[thesphinx]

Firstly, I would never ride a motorcycle, secondly, people have enough sense(or at least I hope so) that they should know that they need protection when doing something like that. About the shoes, I hardly ever wear them, and my feet have become leathery on the bottom. I stepped on a rose thorn, it went in, but it didn't hurt and it didn't bleed.

What the heck? Somebody please delete the previous post, I don't know what happened.


i walk around without shoes like everywhere theyve gotten so tough that i can run full-out on gravel without it hurtin!
its nice but i still where shows when i go places beside myyard neighborhood..

[Melchi0r]

You two are like hobbits!

[syren]

I love it, it's great to return to your natural state and enjoy everything - you feel every change of the wind, the water, other people, the sun
it's bliss

[Mob Boss]

And clothed is the way to go! :D

Ummm, no, I'm not. Whatever floats your boat. I don't really have anything against people that are confident enough to share their body with the world. I don't believe the reason people aren't nudist is because they are uncomfortable with their bodies though, maybe they just prefer leaving some things for the imagination or are just more comfortable clothed. If I saw old people naked though, I might have a problem with that. :yuck: Otherwise do your thing...or don't. :lol:

[Gigablue]

Please don't bump old threads. This one is more than 5 years old.