Teachers getting underpaid?

[maestro15]

Its wired that people who run around dribbling basketballs, or hitting baseball with a piece of wood, being a thin blonde woman to show your every move get paid millions. but teachers work their assess every day and ways hours of their lives working for our tomorrow and future and yet they get paid very little and have to live in apartments or somewhere cheap. What are your views on underpaid teachers? tell me about it!

[woody92]

well i think they do get under paid! Because of the workload they have to deal with!

[Charleigh]

i must admit, i treat teachers like shit but i dont mean it, this makes me feel bad lol

[INFERNO]

It depends what subjects the teacher teaches. If it's sciences, they get paid more as opposed to English because there's more content to know and teach, and the content tends to be harder. It also depends on the degrees the teacher have. If they have a Master's as opposed to a Bachelor's, they get paid more. The sociology of education is pretty interesting and one sociological phenomenon regarding payment has to do with the amount of jobs and people to fill them. In the case of teachers, there's a lot of teachers, there's generally not much danger in teaching and the amount of education required is at least a Bachelor's and teaching degree (1 year training usually). I don't think teachers are that unpaid in this sense. I know their work is stressing and hard but if they were to get extra pay, I'd say do so in a way that assesses their performance.

If one teaches at a university or college level, it depends on the subject taught also, in addition to one's status of a professor, location of the university or college, etc... . Not surpisingly, they get paid much more.

[Watchfulness]

I believe that teachers have been deprived of their rightful salary
for a long time, base on my observations.

[BlackBetty]

Its wired that people who run around dribbling basketballs, or hitting baseball with a piece of wood, being a thin blonde woman to show your every move get paid millions. but teachers work their assess every day and ways hours of their lives working for our tomorrow and future and yet they get paid very little and have to live in apartments or somewhere cheap. What are your views on underpaid teachers? tell me about it!

I think that teachers get paid too much! I mean how hard is it to deal with us, I mean really!! I know I'm a ass to my teacher but 99.9999% of the time, they deserve it. I mean, they could have gone to college to do something else, but they decided to be a teacher. To the ones that think they do get under paid, they made there own decision!

[JackOfClubs]

I think that teachers get paid too much! I mean how hard is it to deal with us, I mean really!! I know I'm a ass to my teacher but 99.9999% of the time, they deserve it. I mean, they could have gone to college to do something else, but they decided to be a teacher. To the ones that think they do get under paid, they made there own decision!
Yep, 30k per year is way too much. :rolleyes:

I do think that they are underpaid. They have to deal with asses of students for 7 hours a day, then go home and grade all the homework they give us (which is their fault in the first place) then plan out the next day. They decided to be a teacher because they want to help the next generation of students have a good life. I think that they do deserve to be paid more.

[Atonement]

Okay, I don't know where you guys are getting your figures. The average k-12 teacher, in the USA, gets approximately 40K a year. Starting out, fresh out of college, it varies by state, but in my state, they get about 22K starting out. Now compare that to the average of all 155 million people over the age of 15, which is 28.5K. Now... Teachers have a college education and loans to pay, while others might not, yet get more? How is that fair? At all? Especially when people that work 9-5 get paid more than teachers who work 7-5 on many occasions not counting the after school planning and grading papers? Outrageous.

[Rebecca L Vaughn]

Yes, And the military, police officers, firemen, and doctors, etc don't get paid nearly as much as movie stars do, which in some cases could be about 1 million dollars a show.

[Mental]

Its wired that people who run around dribbling basketballs, or hitting baseball with a piece of wood, being a thin blonde woman to show your every move get paid millions. but teachers work their assess every day and ways hours of their lives working for our tomorrow and future and yet they get paid very little and have to live in apartments or somewhere cheap. What are your views on underpaid teachers? tell me about it!
Well, that's just life. Also remember that people who succeed in the Entertainment Industry get their money from the private sector who realise that having this top sportsman/singler under their label/club/etc. means a lot more money for them, so they both have and are willing to pay these people millions. Same could be said for high level business executives who are basically glorified office workers.

Well, I can't really talk for USA, but here in the UK teachers are paid decently in my opinion, as much as they complain. People also forget that teachers pay has a lot of variables. Fresh out of University with a B.Ed and taking a teaching post as an English Teacher? You'll get a decent starting salary at about 22k a year. But if you're a Professor teaching some kind of science at a University and have a PhD you'll be on a lot more, and also Headteachers/Principals get a lot more, too. I know many of them earn as much as 100k yearly. Not bad, that, is it? Teachers have enough opportunities for promotions and taking other positions.

The same goes for people in the Military and Police. Pay depends on a lot of variables - particularly rank and experience, just because you don't start off with a lot doesn't mean you cannot rank up and specialise and get paid more. My mum's an Inspector in the Police and she earns nearly £50k a year (roughly $80k US). Hardly rolling in money like the likes of David Beckham or some other famous celebrity, but it's enough to be comfortable.

Yes, And the military, police officers, firemen, and doctors, etc don't get paid nearly as much as movie stars do, which in some cases could be about 1 million dollars a show.
Doctors aren't paid badly.. they don't earn millions, but they earn quite a sweet amount.
It's not actually practical to pay every single member of the professions you just suggested millions/near millions, because their wages come from your taxes. Movie stars work for the private sector.

[MisterAndrews]

Well, I can't really talk for USA, but here in the UK teachers are paid decently in my opinion, as much as they complain. People also forget that teachers pay has a lot of variables. Fresh out of University with a B.Ed and taking a teaching post as an English Teacher? You'll get a decent starting salary at about 22k a year. But if you're a Professor teaching some kind of science at a University and have a PhD you'll be on a lot more, and also Headteachers/Principals get a lot more, too. I know many of them earn as much as 100k yearly. Not bad, that, is it? Teachers have enough opportunities for promotions and taking other positions.


Theres a few problems with that paragraph:
1) English Teachers can't do a BEd - that's a primary school course (and it's being phased out anyway.)
2) Variables add more work throughout the day (if it's things like playground duty).
If the variables are things like SENCO or team leading this adds more training and work outside of hours, as well as having to monitor other staff and students across the whole school.
3) All of these variables have to be added to the normal working day - 5 lessons, 5 year groups (or subjects in primary), 5 lesson plans, 5 assesments and 5 sets of marking (everyday; then there's homework to set, assess and mark, curriculum set planning, termly planning, half termly planning and weekly planning.

Other factors you need to consider is that to get up to the top jobs you have to have lots of experience and lots of time to dedicate to the school.
Also, many teachers don't want to go into senior management because of the lack of school contact time with the children. There is just too much paperwork at the top!

The figure of £100,000 that you gave is very high on average. That's about right for an executive head (there aren't many) in an inner city, or a head of a 2000+ pupil secondary school in London. The majority of heads are on about £40,000 - £50,000

Teachers earn about £30,000 at the top of the MPS (Main Pay Scale [without extras]) - NQT's start on only £19,000 and there is actually more work to do in your first year, because you have nothing already planned from a previous year.

Finally, university lecturers are different to teachers. Many of them will have taught in schools before they lectured, because this gives them a sound grasp of how to deliver subject content. However, they are on a different pay scale.

YES: in context, teachers are underpaid... People don’t realise how difficult it is – especially with the younger ones.

[peaceloverugby]

Teachers are EXTREMELY underpaid. There is no amount of money in the world that would make me do so much. I'm constantly in awe, all the time and patience they invest. It's amazing