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Antares
December 26th, 2009, 01:36 AM
ROMULUS, Mich. – A Nigerian man who said he was an agent for al-Qaida tried to blow up a Northwest Airlines plane Friday as it was preparing to land in Detroit, but travelers who smelled smoke and heard what sounded like firecrackers rushed to subdue him, the passengers and federal officials said.
Flight 253 with 278 passengers and 11 crew members aboard was about 20 minutes from the airport when passengers heard popping noises, witnesses said. At least one person climbed over others and jumped on the man. Shortly afterward, the suspect was taken to the front of the plane with his pants cut off and his legs burned, a passenger said.
One U.S. intelligence official said the explosive device was a mix of powder and liquid. It failed when the passenger tried to detonate it.
"It sounded like a firecracker in a pillowcase," said Peter Smith, a traveler from the Netherlands. "First there was a pop, and then (there) was smoke."
Smith said a passenger sitting opposite the man climbed over people, went across the aisle and tried to restrain the man. Syed Jafri, another passenger, said he saw a glow and smelled smoke. Then, he said, "a young man behind me jumped on him."
"Next thing you know, there was a lot of panic," said Jafri. Smith said the heroic passenger appeared to have been burned.
The White House said it believed it was an attempted act of terrorism and stricter security measures were quickly imposed on airline travel. It did not specify what those were.
The incident was reminiscent of Richard Reid, who tried to destroy a trans-Atlantic flight in 2001 with explosives hidden in his shoes, but was subdued by other passengers. Reid is serving a life sentence.
Law enforcement officials identified the suspect in Friday's attempted attack as Umar Farouk Abdul Mutallab. One law enforcement official said the man claimed to have been instructed by al-Qaida to detonate the plane over U.S. soil. All the officials spoke on condition of anonymity because the investigation was continuing.
Another law enforcement official, also speaking on condition of anonymity in order to discuss the case, said Mutallab's name had surfaced earlier on at least one U.S. intelligence database, but not to the extent that he was placed on a watch list or a no-fly list.
The Mutallab was being questioned Friday evening. An intelligence official said the Nigerian passenger was being held and treated in an Ann Arbor, Mich., hospital. One passenger was taken to the University of Michigan Medical Center in Ann Arbor, hospital spokeswoman Tracy Justice said. She referred all inquiries to the FBI.
The trauma burn center at the hospital said it did not have Abdul Mutallab in its unit.
Flight 253 began in Nigeria and went through Amsterdam en route to Detroit, said Rep. Peter King, R-N.Y., the ranking GOP member of the House Homeland Security Committee.
A spokeswoman for police at the Schiphol airport in Amsterdam declined comment about the case or about security procedures at the airport for Flight 253. Schiphol airport, one of Europe's busiest with a heavy load of transit passengers from Africa and Asia to North America, strictly enforces European security regulations including only allowing small amounts of liquid in hand luggage that must be placed inside clear plastic bags.
There was nothing out of the ordinary about the flight until it was on final approach to Detroit, said Federal Aviation Administration spokeswoman Elizabeth Isham Cory. That is when the pilot declared an emergency, she said. The flight landed at 12:51 p.m. EST, she said.
Delta Air Lines Inc., which bought Northwest last year, said that "upon approach to Detroit, a passenger caused a disturbance." It said the passenger was subdued immediately and the crew asked that law enforcement officials meet the flight.
"The passenger was taken into custody and questioned by law enforcement authorities," the airline said.
According to the airline, eight flight attendants and three pilots were on board.
Smith said while he was leaving the plane, he looked at where the man had been sitting and saw a pillow that seemed to have been burned. Melinda Dennis, who was seated in the front row of the plane, said the man involved was brought to the front row and seated near her. She said his legs appeared to be badly burned and his pants were cut off. She said he was taken off the plane handcuffed to a stretcher.
President Barack Obama was notified of the incident and discussed it with security officials, the White House said. It said he is monitoring the situation and receiving regular updates from his vacation spot in Hawaii.
Federal officials said there would be heightened security for both domestic and international flights at airports across the country, but the intensified levels would likely be "layered," differing from location to location depending on alerts, security concerns and other factors.
Passengers can expect to see heightened screening, more bomb-sniffing dog and officer units and behavioral-detection specialists at some airports, but there will also be unspecified less visible precautions as well, officials said.
The FBI and the Homeland Security Department issued an intelligence note on Nov. 20 about the threat picture for the holiday season, which was obtained by The Associated Press. At the time, officials said they had no specific information about attack plans by al-Qaida or other terrorist groups.
In 2003, al-Qaida leader Osama bin Laden purportedly marked Nigeria for liberation in a recording posted on the Internet, calling on Muslims in the oil-rich country to rise up against one of the "regimes who are slaves of America." But links to al-Qaida remained rare, though security forces claimed to break up such a linked terror cell in November 2007.
Security at Nigeria's two major international airports in the capital Abuja and in its megacity Lagos remain a point of concern. Uniformed federal police officers often focus their time on keeping hagglers and taxi drivers out. Bags quickly pass through X-ray scanners and those watching incoming passengers do not typically conduct tests for explosive residue on passengers' carry-on baggage nor shoes.
At the gate, airline workers often check passengers again with handheld metal detectors before they board their flight.
Delta, which is days away from obtaining a single operating certificate from the FAA to fully integrate itself and Northwest, has been hosting military personnel who have to travel over the holidays in a lounge at the Detroit airport.
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Margasak reported from Washington. Associated Press Writers Lara Jakes in Baghdad, Randi Berris in West Bloomfield, Mich., Larry Lage in Ann Arbor, Mich., and Devlin Barrett, Shelley Adler, Eileen Sullivan, Pamela Hess, Harry R. Weber and Joan Lowy in Washington, Jon Gambrell in Lagos, Nigeria, Arthur Max in Amsterdam and Philip Elliott in Kailua, Hawaii, contributed to this report.








Honestly, I thought that people would be crazy to do this...glad this guy was stupid enough to epically fail...

tripolar
December 26th, 2009, 01:51 AM
That would have been tragic if he was able to blow up the plane, especially on Christmas. But luckily he didn't.

And a quick thing, it was a Delta plane not a North West.

Random_oso06
December 26th, 2009, 04:23 AM
wow i heard about this about an hour ago

OneManArmy
December 26th, 2009, 05:03 AM
stupid terrorists

OstrichAficionado
December 26th, 2009, 07:54 AM
stupid terrorists

They're so desperate now :/

The Joker
December 26th, 2009, 10:37 PM
stupid terrorists

It wasn't a terrorist, it was a guy off his rocker. He probably had a mental disorder, was high on drugs/alchohol, or both.

It was just a fire cracker. Dangerous on a plane, sure, but not a terrorist weapon.

Sugaree
December 26th, 2009, 10:44 PM
stupid terrorists

Turrist lulz

They're so desperate now :/

They aren't desperate, far from it. As long as they are TERRORIZING us, then they are winning. Besides, there have been far more terrorist attacks in the Middle East than there have been here. Besides, this guy WASN'T a terrorist as Matt has said. He was just mentally unstable. Even though this "weapon" might not have been powerful on the ground, it very well could have caused injuries on the plane.

mrmcdonaldduck
December 27th, 2009, 07:23 AM
i heard the guy was on the terrorist watch list.

if he was, why wasnt he checked more thouroughly or not allowed on the flight? he nearly killed alot of people because of a stupid blunder by airport security. we were getting slack with checking and this is a wake up call that their are terrorists that want to kill us.

Malcolm Tucker
December 27th, 2009, 10:34 AM
And a quick thing, it was a Delta plane not a North West.

Technically it's still Northwest until Delta's AOC comes in the spring allowing them to become one whole airline under the Delta brand, but until then it's still NW :)

And I'm still trying to figure out how he got through with those materials =\

wisse2012
December 27th, 2009, 12:01 PM
i think they need to shoot him

Sugaree
December 27th, 2009, 01:00 PM
And I'm still trying to figure out how he got through with those materials =\

The terrorist who piloted the planes on September 11th got through with box cutters and knives. I'm not surprised that this guy got through.

i think they need to shoot him

No.

Antares
December 27th, 2009, 09:06 PM
That would have been tragic if he was able to blow up the plane, especially on Christmas. But luckily he didn't.

And a quick thing, it was a Delta plane not a North West.

It was a Delta plane but it was a Northwest Flight.

Umm I think one factor of him getting this stuff through security is because of rushing from the long lines.
My question is how did he get it lit or started...you basically need metal to start the fire...one idea is maybe hiding a cigarette lighter near like a belt or something since that thing is just a metal detector.

Richthegamer99
December 28th, 2009, 06:05 PM
Did any hear about the fail terrist attck on.
I though "WOW this could be worse"
How does someone get on bored a plane with explosive (maby the police/dog at amterdam where stoned lol) but still the need to get more secruity at airport on internal flights coming into the US.

whats your opinons on this event

MacMilker
December 28th, 2009, 06:19 PM
i think its horrible, and our nation is truely in danger with these people asleep at the switch.

makes you wonder if your ever going to fly again, what if im on that plane next time?

Cloud
December 28th, 2009, 06:21 PM
but still the need to get more secruity at airport on internal flights coming into the US.

wait jsut the US?
what about the rest of the world
England still has terrorist attacks

there really isnt a reason to get all paranoid about it
theres thousands of planes in the skies with even more people attending them its a extremely unlikely thing to happen now with all the new technology and the few times it does are very few

Richthegamer99
December 28th, 2009, 08:37 PM
wait jsut the US?
what about the rest of the world
England still has terrorist attacks

there really isnt a reason to get all paranoid about it
theres thousands of planes in the skies with even more people attending them its a extremely unlikely thing to happen now with all the new technology and the few times it does are very few

Yeah it rare if some one did get a bomb on the but this also happed a few days ago showing how a person with the right skill might be able to get a lager bomb on board a plane

Cloud
December 28th, 2009, 08:39 PM
but when was the last one before the most recent one
its extremely rare and despite it happening today the chances of you being on that flight are slim
especially with growing technologies to stop this

KaelKaos
December 28th, 2009, 08:56 PM
Did any hear about the fail terrist attck on.
I though "WOW this could be worse"
How does someone get on bored a plane with explosive (maby the police/dog at amterdam where stoned lol) but still the need to get more secruity at airport on internal flights coming into the US.

whats your opinons on this event

Did he not start his voyage in Nigeria?

Nigeria is known for their "lax" security, which is probably how he got onto the plane in the first place..

ktkurbst0mp
December 28th, 2009, 08:59 PM
With all the new security since 9/11, that is extraoridnarily inconvienient for everyone, you'd think they'd stop things like this from happening... You know? :/

OneManArmy
December 28th, 2009, 09:19 PM
With all the new security since 9/11, that is extraoridnarily inconvienient for everyone, you'd think they'd stop things like this from happening... You know? :/

Well the flight was coming from Nigeria, a poor 3rd world country in Africa. They probably don't have the kind of security measures as in America, so it was probably easier to get away with it there, then it is here. Security different depending on the country, like in Canada u don't have to take off ur shoes, well unless the guard asks u to after the metal wand search, but I've never seen that happen, but who'd want to bomb Canada anyway??

DOH & TSA can try to add as many security measures as possible, but that doesn't mean other countries are gonna follow them. And terrorists are always gonna find ways to beat the system, it's the sad truth.

Richthegamer99
December 28th, 2009, 09:25 PM
but when was the last one before the most recent one
its extremely rare and despite it happening today the chances of you being on that flight are slim
especially with growing technologies to stop this

I belive there where 2 one on chrismiss day and the other a few day ago

Richthegamer99
December 28th, 2009, 09:26 PM
Did he not start his voyage in Nigeria?

Nigeria is known for their "lax" security, which is probably how he got onto the plane in the first place..

it was nigeria then Amsterdam then detroit

Richthegamer99
December 28th, 2009, 09:28 PM
With all the new security since 9/11, that is extraoridnarily inconvienient for everyone, you'd think they'd stop things like this from happening... You know? :/

think its securty from other country airports that is our most vulnure spot air port in side of the US are heavy garded

KaelKaos
December 28th, 2009, 11:00 PM
it was nigeria then Amsterdam then detroit

Exactly, so he easily got the chemicals onboard through Nigeria.

Richthegamer99
December 28th, 2009, 11:04 PM
Exactly, so he easily got the chemicals onboard through Nigeria.

but how did they not detect it in amsertdam

KaelKaos
December 28th, 2009, 11:07 PM
but how did they not detect it in amsertdam

Was he forced to go through security again?

Richthegamer99
December 28th, 2009, 11:12 PM
Was he forced to go through security again?

i don't know but he was on the US gov terro watch list witch suprized me a supsped terrorst got a bomb on bord a plane

The Joker
December 30th, 2009, 05:43 PM
Well the flight was coming from Nigeria, a poor 3rd world country in Africa. They probably don't have the kind of security measures as in America, so it was probably easier to get away with it there, then it is here. Security different depending on the country, like in Canada u don't have to take off ur shoes, well unless the guard asks u to after the metal wand search, but I've never seen that happen, but who'd want to bomb Canada anyway??

DOH & TSA can try to add as many security measures as possible, but that doesn't mean other countries are gonna follow them. And terrorists are always gonna find ways to beat the system, it's the sad truth.

I know who would want to bomb Canada. The FLQ. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Front_de_Lib%C3%A9ration_du_Qu%C3%A9bec)

Although now that I think about it they probably are gone. :P

KaelKaos
December 30th, 2009, 05:48 PM
i don't know but he was on the US gov terro watch list witch suprized me a supsped terrorst got a bomb on bord a plane

It's not hard to be on the FDA's terrorist list. I know my dad was. And when you are, they don't like quarantine you and search every crevice of your suitcase and body, they just pull you aside and look at your passport and such.

OneManArmy
December 30th, 2009, 10:23 PM
I know who would want to bomb Canada. The FLQ. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Front_de_Lib%C3%A9ration_du_Qu%C3%A9bec)

Although now that I think about it they probably are gone. :P

Meh Quebec has always been weird.

Antares
December 31st, 2009, 01:17 AM
wait jsut the US?
what about the rest of the world
England still has terrorist attacks

there really isnt a reason to get all paranoid about it
theres thousands of planes in the skies with even more people attending them its a extremely unlikely thing to happen now with all the new technology and the few times it does are very few

welcome to the united states :P
no one else matters hehe
everyone else just causes problems

Just so you all know, you dont have to go through security more than once as long as you stay in the secure areas of the airport.

So security in Nigeria, he doesn thave to in Amsterdam, and he arrives in detroit. typically one security check point

Whisper
January 2nd, 2010, 06:10 AM
I was SOOOOOO glad I wasn't flying stateside when I had to come home on the 31st
they were such assholes about it at the airport
NO carry on
are you shittin me?!?!?
non americans not allowed to walk about the cabin for the last hour?!?!?
fuckin retarded

I was on a Beijing via Vancouver flight from Toronto's Pearson airport on an airbus 777-300
Domestic security was fine, I was "randomly selected" (that happens to me allot)
but other then that everything was fine
no problems on the 5hr flight
there was even a baby right next to me that was asleep or smiling the entire time


One dude manages to set his pants on fire and an entire country is brought to its knees again
international airports groaning under the strain of the increased security measures
seriously, its pathetic.


EDIT

oh i forgot they cut my lock and searched my checked bag
piss me off i liked that lock and its an airport approved one they should have a universal key to open it
nothing was stolen tho
so w/e