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Maverick
December 19th, 2009, 01:55 PM
Would it still be women and children first?
The Joker
December 19th, 2009, 08:15 PM
It would be whoever could get off first.
Which is sad to see.
ktkurbst0mp
December 19th, 2009, 08:45 PM
I agree.
It would be "push everyone out of the way to get there first!"
But hey, women wanted equal rights, right ? :P
I'm kidding though. Kids should be first in my opinion.
Not women and children.
Just children. They're carrying on the generation.
However, it'd suck to be a kid with no parents.
So it's a lose-lose any way you look at it.
JackOfClubs
December 19th, 2009, 08:50 PM
Definitely children first. Everyone else... "GET THE HELL OUTTA MY WAY!!!" etc :D But in all seriousness, it should be children and pregnant women first, as they would be at the highest risk if they didn't get off the boat. Then everyone else should be then filed into the life boats. Of course, today, boats have to have enough functioning life boats and preservers for everyone on board.
ShatteredWings
December 19th, 2009, 08:56 PM
I think it would be.
Despite womens rights, we still live in a society where women are seen as a slightly lower class,and weaker than men.
I'm not in the mood to argue "but they are, it's in your DNA fucking deal with it". Both sexes are needed for reproduction, so I can't see how getting women out first means anything.
Black or White
December 19th, 2009, 09:01 PM
I honestly dont know what it would be. Most likely children first to be offboard then the rest.
Rutherford The Brave
December 19th, 2009, 09:31 PM
Doubt it men these days lack chivarly. Plus it would be like it was utter chaos and since we are so self driven people would fight for spots on the boats.
Patchy
December 19th, 2009, 10:11 PM
It would be every man/women/child for themselves I would imagine.
Fight for survival nd all.
In the film the dickhead called cal who pretends he has a child to get a boat. I would imagine more occurrences of that would occur if titanic sunk today.
It's sad really that it would be that way.
theOperaGhost
December 19th, 2009, 11:23 PM
I think in an unpaniced setting, it would be women and children first, but in a setting of panic and utter chaos, it would be whoever gets there first.
Delusion15
December 19th, 2009, 11:52 PM
Im inclined to agree that Most men have way too much pride to let the women and children fend for them selfs. I would think they would let them go first but also i think most boats are more prepared for this then they were back then.
tripolar
December 19th, 2009, 11:56 PM
Nope, it would be first come first serve. Some people may give up a seat for a woman or child but most wouldn't even let that cross their mind.
INFERNO
December 20th, 2009, 01:21 AM
Since it would be a situation with immense stress and imminent danger, I think most people would react in a way to save their own skins and perhaps their loved ones. Some may show more bravery and try to save women and children who they don't know but I can say that I'm pretty sure I wouldn't do this, as I'd likely try to save myself and my parents (supposing I was with my parents on the Titanic).
Zephyr
December 20th, 2009, 04:14 AM
If the Titanic sunk in this day and age, there would be enough lifeboats and help would come a helluva lot quicker.
But to really answer the question, I see two scenarios.
1) First come, first serve. Some people may fight each other for a spot in a panic. If someone feels like giving up their seat, that may well happen. Some people these days are far more concerned with the self rather than others. A few people in this day and age would give their seat for to save another though.
2) Children first, then the adults get on in a first come first serve manner.
Though I imagine in this day and age, there are certain ways of evacuating a sinking vessel that are standard.
Sugaree
December 20th, 2009, 03:46 PM
If a ship like Titanic were to sink today...I'd imagine there would be enough lifeboats and all for passengers to be safe. However, people would panic too easily and it would be every man/woman/child for themselves. Plus, ships now tend to be much bigger than the Titanic, so if they sank, more people would be possibly taken down. Plus, with how fast the coast guard can respond and all these new safety regulations, people could remain safe. Safety regulations now are much better than they were in 1912, not to mention that there are better ways to contact help from another vessel or coast guard without having to use morse code.
If the situation were under control, it wouldn't be women and children first. We still live in a society where women are still seen as lower beings to men and that is a sad fact. I couldn't even see how a situation like this would be able to be put under control of an authoritative figure. As I have stated and many others have, it would be every man, woman, and child for themselves.
AddiEast
December 20th, 2009, 05:15 PM
On Titanic they also let the rich people go first and the poor people at the bottom of the ship died
In 2009 it would be no problem because they have to have enough lifeboats for as many people as are on board
IDK I just think Leo Dicaprio should drown ;)
OneManArmy
December 20th, 2009, 05:57 PM
There would be enough life boats for everyone. And the coast guard and stuff would be able to respond cause of better communication and stuff. And there's better safety regulations today then there was in 1912. You have this drill thing like 2 hours before debarkation time, and your assigned a life boat or something, and where u should go if something does happen, so it's pretty much everyone for them selves. I should know this I've been on a cruise twice.
scuba steve
December 20th, 2009, 06:29 PM
well since we're in the 21st centuary now i would imagine we wouldn't be so stuck up are own arses and actually have enough bloody lifeboats and also the choppers from NYC would be straight on the phone and on the seen in minutes so no need to worry that chivalry is dead.
Aves
December 20th, 2009, 06:46 PM
Most people would only care for themselves...unless everyone was high! Then they'd be all peaceful and probably women and children first :P
Bluearmy
December 20th, 2009, 11:43 PM
I think it would depend on the crowd. Yes, people can tend to be a tad animalistic when they face certain death. But I think the women and children law would be ignored in this day and age. I just picture the general culture of the old days being a little bit more classy.
Whisper
December 21st, 2009, 08:52 AM
Would it still be women and children first?
If the titanic sank today there'd be enough life rafts for everyone.
A mayday would be sent off immediately and through GPS tracking every ship within a couple hundred miles would know its exact location AND the details of the distress, the crew and passenger compliment, etc.....
The fatality rate would be drastically different. Then again the ship itself might not sink with that kind of damage if it was made to modern specs
So would it be women and children first? honestly it depends on the nation of origins culture. Considering it's British, it probly still would be if they believed there wouldn't be enough rafts ya.
If it was American?...survival of the fittest
But the fact is the conditions would be completely different now, we aren't as primitive
the funny thing is if they'd hit the iceberg head on at full speed, they would have been fine.
Damaged? yes
but the bulkhead design would have saved the ship they'd limp to port embarrassed but with all hands on board
Camazotz
December 21st, 2009, 04:24 PM
It depends on who's on the boat. Some people would fight to survive. Some would be willing to give it to children. As a generalization, I think in a chaotic situation, people would be more interested in surviving than being chivalrous. Some people might be interested in the pride and honor of letting children and women go first. Like I said, it depends.
MadManWithaBox
December 21st, 2009, 04:52 PM
well technology has dratcially improved. most likely a mayday signal could be sent to a life baot unit, and helicopters/boats could be sent out ot the passangers. save alot more people. still yeah, every man for theirself. that is human nature effectively, for most people anyway
Antares
December 23rd, 2009, 12:40 AM
The real gentlemen and macho men would let them go first for the most part.
The other part would go with their families as a whole.
The last part (I think of the businessman that is always on his cell phone that is really a coward) would kill other people just to get on the lifeboat first.
mrmcdonaldduck
December 24th, 2009, 07:37 PM
the funny thing is if they'd hit the iceberg head on at full speed, they would have been fine.
Damaged? yes
but the bulkhead design would have saved the ship they'd limp to port embarrassed but with all hands on board
this.
but if it sunk today, with the same number of boats and people, it would be a giant free for all, except for a few honourable people helping others to live.
overcome.
December 26th, 2009, 11:01 AM
I believe that in the heat of the moment, people would do anything to save themselves and their families first. It's life, it's a dog-eat-dog world. It's like pidgeons, they will fly in the skys as a flock, a united group, but when it comes to food which essential for survival, they can be as ferocious as they need to be to get what they want. It's human (and animal) nature. So no, I don't believe it would be women and children first. I believe it'd be whoever managed to get off of the boat first, perhaps being considerate and taking a child with them as well as their families.
Sage
December 27th, 2009, 11:21 AM
The real gentlemen and macho men would let them go first for the most part.
Be gentle and macho if you like, but I'd rather recognize female and youth equality by giving them no particular priority over anyone else.
Rebecca L Vaughn
January 13th, 2010, 02:48 PM
Probably children first.
Mental
January 13th, 2010, 05:26 PM
Well, like it's been mentioned already, there would be enough lifeboats and other systems of help available that's adequate to save everyone on the Titanic or whatever ship that's being sunk, so this is kinda irrelevant.
But in the case of there not being enough lifeboats, I know children would get priority, but I doubt women (unless they are pregnant or old, the latter of which applies to men too) would get any priority in todays age. The attitudes of today and when the Titanic sunk are very different. Back then women did not have anywhere near equal rights to men and were looked down as weak and inferior, and were thus "needed to be protected", nowadays most men accept women as equal adults.
But I think it also depends on the actual women themselves. Some women will go into a massive panic and start crying if such an event happened, so I think men AND other women would find themselves giving those women priority, but some women would also try to help others onto the lifeboats rather than just save their own skins, and I doubt most men would try and tell them otherwise.
Lets say there is the last space on the last lifeboat and there is only a man and woman left, and only one can take that space, then the man would most likely give it to her. But again, this depends on a lot of things.
Severus Snape
January 13th, 2010, 06:31 PM
Women, children and liberals. :P
srs answer:
I think so. Maritime courtesy and morals have changed very little. A captain is the sovereign of his own floating nation, and what he says goes. Of course, in the Titanic incident, I don't think it was necessarily women and children first, but more socio-economically sensitive. The rich gtfo first, probably women and children first, but then the rich men went before the poor women and children. Safety standards have improved considerably so in the off chance such an incidence does occur again, gates won't lock people below decks and there will be enough lifeboats for everyone (and vests for sure)
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