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Rainstorm
December 2nd, 2009, 05:10 PM
Albany, N.Y. (AP) - New York lawmakers have rejected a bill to legalize gay marriage.

The Senate decision Wednesday comes after months of delays and arm twisting of lawmakers sympathetic to the bill but representing conservative districts. It follows a referendum in Maine earlier this month that struck down a gay marriage law before it took effect.

Advocates say they aren't surprised by the decision. Most, including Gov. David Paterson, say they at least wanted a floor debate and vote.

Gay marriage is legal in Connecticut, Iowa, Massachusetts and Vermont. A New Hampshire law takes effect Jan. 1.

No real surprise here. One can hope soon, though

Sage
December 2nd, 2009, 07:46 PM
Give it time.

ShatteredWings
December 2nd, 2009, 08:47 PM
How much time though?

God, how the heck is this even an argument?

Rainstorm
December 2nd, 2009, 08:51 PM
;705456']How much time though?

God, how the heck is this even an argument?

Until one or both of these things can happen...

1. Our elected officials actually pay attention to what the people want.

and/or

2. People stop trying to control the lives of the homosexual community by holding back basic rights

Rutherford The Brave
December 2nd, 2009, 08:51 PM
It's going to take alot of time. I'm glad Mass passed it, I really am. I think they did the right thing and to me its a prescedent to other states.

Kahn
December 2nd, 2009, 10:25 PM
Honestly when Gov. Paterson took office about a year ago I couldn't stand the way he was changing NY. He extended school hours and rose taxes. Now he rejects something that might bring more people to NY. Jeez. I have nothing against him because of this but did you know he is legally blind?

coodood
December 2nd, 2009, 11:20 PM
This is a true outrage... hopefully in time our lawmakers will develope some common sense.

mrmcdonaldduck
December 3rd, 2009, 02:18 AM
i hope that if it goes again it gets passed. how can the we accept each other if we seggregate against a portion of the community?

CaptainObvious
December 3rd, 2009, 02:24 AM
Until one or both of these things can happen...

1. Our elected officials actually pay attention to what the people want.

and/or

2. People stop trying to control the lives of the homosexual community by holding back basic rights

Well, actually, as we've seen with the recent ballot initiative defeats, a majority of the population in America generally opposes gay marriage. Elected officials aren't necessarily the ones holding it back, here... the population itself is plenty bigoted. Reason 2 is pretty much driving this ongoing injustice.

ShatteredWings
December 3rd, 2009, 06:50 AM
Until one or both of these things can happen...

1. Our elected officials actually pay attention to what the people want.

and/or

2. People stop trying to control the lives of the homosexual community by holding back basic rights
the problem is people don't want this.

A very small portion of the population is gay
A slightly larger is OK with gays getting married.

Sapphire
December 3rd, 2009, 07:01 AM
And you are supposed to have a forward thinking country...

ShatteredWings
December 3rd, 2009, 07:02 AM
I know, really.

Fucking bigots. So much for "all men are created equal", when people can be, and are, fired for their sexuality and can't serve in the military (yeah. because we're all going to go and kill everyone who's straight. idiots).

Sapphire
December 3rd, 2009, 07:59 AM
It makes me proud to be British when I see America being like this, I can tell you.

TheKingDavis
December 3rd, 2009, 08:40 AM
;705456']How much time though?

God, how the heck is this even an argument?

Our generation brings with it more open minded people, the generation after us will bring more open minded people.

it will happen in time.

Sapphire
December 3rd, 2009, 08:47 AM
Our generation brings with it more open minded people, the generation after us will bring more open minded people.

it will happen in time.
Considering that British homosexual couples have been able to enter into a civil partnership (which differs only slightly from a marriage) since 2004, I would argue that it's despicable that America is dragging its feet like this.

Saying that it will happen in time is a cop-out excuse for not pushing for change.

Lily of the Valley
December 3rd, 2009, 02:21 PM
Until one or both of these things can happen...

1. Our elected officials actually pay attention to what the people want.

and/or

2. People stop trying to control the lives of the homosexual community by holding back basic rightsIn other words, until we stop being so damn conservative. Which is gonna take a loooooonnnggg time.

~Maggot