Calls to suspend Canada from Commonwealth

[Whisper]

On Thursday, The Guardian newspaper reported that at least one scientist and several lobby groups were calling for Canada's suspension from the Commonwealth over its failure to meet goals for reducing greenhouse gases.


"If the Commonwealth is serious about holding its members to account, then threatening the lives of millions of people in developing countries should lead to the suspension of Canada's membership immediately," said Saleemul Huq, a lead author for the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change.


Other groups including the World Development Movement, the Polaris Institute and Greenpeace support the idea, according to The Guardian.


Canada signed the Kyoto Protocol in 2000, pledging to reduce greenhouse gas emissions by six per cent from 1990 levels by the commitment period ending in 2012. By 2007, its emissions were 34 per cent above its reduction target.


December's global climate summit in Copenhagen has raised the temperature at what is usually a low-key meeting of leaders from Britain's former colonial empire.


Leaders of the 53-nation group, whose profile has waned in recent years, say they now have a chance to influence the global debate.


"What we can do is to raise our voices politically," said Prime Minister Patrick Manning of Trinidad and Tobago. "We feel can have some effect in influencing the discussions in Denmark."


Others apparently agree. This year's meeting has drawn leaders from outside the Commonwealth such as Ban, Danish Prime Minister Lars Loekke Rasmussen and French President Nicolas Sarkozy.


Manning has stressed to journalists that the leaders would not be negotiating the details of a climate treaty in their private meetings. Rather, they would be working out a statement that reflects a huge segment of world opinion, a quarter of the world's countries.


"A statement from countries as diverse as those that you find in the Commonwealth is a statement that would be much more reflective of [the] world than would otherwise be the case," he said


http://www.cbc.ca/world/story/2009/11/27/commonwealth-meeting.html









If they FUCKING DARE to suspend Canada
As far as I'm concerned we should hold an immediate referendum
Turn Canada into a Republic
Support for the royals is pathetic already

[Jean Poutine]

So apparently backwater African English colonies ruled by dictators should hold more weight in the Commonwealth than developed countries because we failed over something that is all but symbolic at this point. Not saying Trinidad and Tobago is any of this but it IS a inconsequential little island.

I'll be impressed when the Commonwealth starts suspending over human right abuses.

Hypocrites.

Canada as a republic.

[Darkness]

IF Canada was to be suspended it would have to be implemented by royal consent and there is not a chance in hell that Her Majesty would EVER willingly exclude a nation from the Commonwealth unless it was because of an act of war on another member state.

Canada is not a republic, not yet- perhaps public opinion of the Royals is low, I can only hope that the younger Princes can relight the fires of the Royals as The current Queen did when she was crowned sovereign.

[Jean Poutine]

Screw Prince Charles

[Darkness]

Screw Prince Charles
That was too floral, please don't do it again in such a candid manner it only invalidates your point.

He'll abdicate I'm sure of that, by the time Elizabeth II (I in Scotland) goes he'll be to old, he's not a strong leader, he has not the courage to speak out over Parliament, in short he's too nice, he make too many compromises, not enough gambles.

[ShatteredWings]

Wait. How much is actually controled by this in the first place?

I thought canada was only tied to england by a few legal things that are more of "i'll cover your ass if you cover mine" type treaty/whatever..

[Gumleaf]

from what i understand kyoto is pointless and has little relevence really because there are no punishments for countries not reaching their targets. in australia right now the government and opposition are fighting over an emissions trading scheme thats going no where. maybe something will happen at the copenhagen convention thingy with world leaders? but really, even though the queen has come out and told commonwealth government leaders to lead the way in cutting emissions, i don't think anything is going to change anytime soon and the idea of cutting canada from the commonwealth is just stupid and unfounded really.

[Jean Poutine]

That was too floral, please don't do it again in such a candid manner it only invalidates your point.

He'll abdicate I'm sure of that, by the time Elizabeth II (I in Scotland) goes he'll be to old, he's not a strong leader, he has not the courage to speak out over Parliament, in short he's too nice, he make too many compromises, not enough gambles.

Your face is highly disrespectful and uncalled for.

I'm sorry Mr. PC but not everyone deserves respect.

[Whisper]

That was too floral, please don't do it again in such a candid manner it only invalidates your point.

He'll abdicate I'm sure of that, by the time Elizabeth II (I in Scotland) goes he'll be to old, he's not a strong leader, he has not the courage to speak out over Parliament, in short he's too nice, he make too many compromises, not enough gambles.

Dude Charles is a fucking asshole, period. Him and his old hag.
The only thing I've ever liked about being a commonwealth citizen is the minor perks we enjoy with Australia but we could easily set that up between ourselves independently

There's no way in hell he'd give up the power
He bitches and sticks his nose in policies that are none of his concern all the time


As far as suspending Canada
Go ahead
If they dare

Michael Jean is pissing me off anyway she refers to herself as the "de-facto" head of state

[Darkness]

Your face is highly disrespectful and uncalled for.

I'm sorry Mr. PC but not everyone deserves respect.

A: I'm not PC,
B: He's just another link in the chain until thing are put back to the way they should be, a true balance of power.
C: Ok what the hell is your problem? I have a opinion that different to yours, this is a discussion thread, people discuss things. If you don't want to discuss then don't post damn you! You sir are an ass, stupid stubborn, and moronic.

@ Whisper, I'll make a comparison here, In the early years of the Imperial roman empire there was Caesar, he was great. Later on there was Nero, he wasn't so good, Caesar stayed in power, Nero was replaced. Do you see what I'm getting at? -If one ruler or figurehead doesn't work another one will replace them in said position. Now I'm not sold on Charles being a bastard, but if he is- he'll be removed, forcefully is nessary- or ignored.

[Whisper]

Cesar? You're using him as a good example? A dictator that was stabbed and left to die on the senate floor.
He destroyed the first great Republic!
Yes he accomplished allot but I wouldn't say he's an example to follow
At the very least he had to earn his position
Charles didn't do a dam thing but pop out of a vagina

What do you mean an equal balance of power?
Oh what another Diana? Mysterious car crash?
Ya that's democratic

A monarchy is archaic and barbaric
not to mention costly

"Canada spent $2.6 million on the 11-day visit by Prince Charles and his wife, Camilla, who arrived in St. John's, N.L., on Nov. 2 and visited four provinces. According to documents obtained through a federal access to information request by Sun Media, the cost of hotel rooms for the visit was more than $135,000. Other expenses included $40,000 for a tour website and $630,000 to pay staff who worked on the visit." (CBC, 2009)


hey man
hit multi-quote on the first persons post
then quote on the second's
its easier to follow then
thanks

[Darkness]

Oh, there's muti-quote, cool I didn't know, thanks :)

The republic was corrupt, it let it's people starve, it's politicians let Rome over crowd, they stole their own peoples farms and turned them into vine yards, ok it was not always so, but it was for a long time!

Diana, was stupid, that's a no shit, I mean, well an elected king with almost full power but with boundaries...

Ok it's costly, barbaric? the french republic was barbaric and totalling.

[Jean Poutine]

A: I'm not PC,
B: He's just another link in the chain until thing are put back to the way they should be, a true balance of power.
C: Ok what the hell is your problem? I have a opinion that different to yours, this is a discussion thread, people discuss things. If you don't want to discuss then don't post damn you! You sir are an ass, stupid stubborn, and moronic.

A : Yes you are.
B : No, he's just a fuckup that raised his sons as fuckups and doesn't deserve any respect.
C : Hypocrite much? Go wash your mouth with soap, your mom wouldn't like you typing vulgarities on the Internet little man. You tell me I was "too floral" when I simply said that Prince Charles can go screw himself, and now you're tossing me insults that are much worse?

You're the one that didn't want to discuss in the first place by whining about a perfectly fine statement. They call that a "red herring", and it offends my intelligence. You raised issues when there were none. If you really wanted to discuss you wouldn't have whined your chaste little ass about "Screw Prince Charles" and you'd have explained why exactly you think he shouldn't go screw himself.

Practice what you preach. Even when others don't listen to your preaching.

@ Whisper, I'll make a comparison here, In the early years of the Imperial roman empire there was Caesar, he was great. Later on there was Nero, he wasn't so good, Caesar stayed in power, Nero was replaced. Do you see what I'm getting at? -If one ruler or figurehead doesn't work another one will replace them in said position. Now I'm not sold on Charles being a bastard, but if he is- he'll be removed, forcefully is nessary- or ignored.

Your argument is exceedingly naïve. You believe that after a successful coup, the military would lift a finger to oust its chosen candidate in the first place, despite their excesses or lack of good governance. It's just not how it works in the real world.

Go take a stroll in Africa and come tell us how coups d'état work for them. Africa has some of the longest-serving rulers in the world (many who were appointed by political coups), even when they commit atrocious human rights abuses and are corrupt to the bone.

Or Myanmar. Yeah I'm sure Than Shwe is a really good ruler that doesn't shoot protesters, even foreign journalists, in the face, and that doesn't keep democratic activists under house arrest with tons of mean men with guns around said house. Yet how long has the junta being in power?

[Darkness]

Ok, I failled, I'm still not PC though.