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The Joker
November 24th, 2009, 01:39 AM
I asked someone what they thought about gays in Honesty Box on Facebook, what they said really upset me.

I feel sorry for them because of their disability wheather mental, genetic or hormonal.
What i really think about them depends on the origins of homosexuality if it is purelly genitic then the problem would take care of itself through the process of evolution and if this doesnt happen it must mean that homosexaulity is hormonall or a simple mental disorder that would be cured through means of medicinal treatment.But as it stands today homosexuality is part genitic and part environmental if a person has some homo genetic indicaters they will not automaticly become a queer but will be more likely if exposed to certainl factors of evironment such as birth complications will produce a homosexual and thus infertile person. And if we cannot find a cure for homoseaxualism then we should be able to find the mutated genes responsible for it and remoove them or when unborn babies are genetic tested providew the mother with the nowledge of her child sexual preference and the mother could then make an informed disition on wheather or not to keep the baby. I think the way i do not because some preacher told me to but because I learned about evolution and genetics before i learned about homosexaulity wich seemed to not be merily i diversitification of the humone genome as some people whould want you to think but a severe mistake or mutation. So wwhen my parents who are very pro gay marrage tried to convert me i was reluctent. so in the end i view gays the same as people with down syndrom with sorrow i dont hate gays just gayness.but what i do hate is people who are tring to save homosexuality those who deny the that there is any thing wrong going on.
Hope that answers you question

Thoughts?

Quick_Sylver
November 24th, 2009, 01:53 AM
Hm. He/She couldn't spell asshole could they? Hm. I thought of a better word. Homophobe.

hardasrock6
November 24th, 2009, 05:18 PM
wait wait wait i didn't read the whole thing but it sounds like they're sayng we have a "dissabling diesase" or something. tht guy is an idiot being gay or bi is a part of who u are its not like some diesase or something its rly mean

drumir93
November 24th, 2009, 05:24 PM
Besides for the fact that everything that person said is just flat out wrong. It's difficult to take opinions seriously anyway when they come from someone who can't spell knowledge, merely, or medical, or realize that the word is homosexuality and not homosexualism.

nick
November 24th, 2009, 05:33 PM
Matt its a fact of life that some guys will make comments like this. Its beyond their experience and basically they don't know wtf they're talking about.

Its always going to be upsetting to hear your friends talk like that, and it hardly encourages a guy to come out. But then, who knows, if they're good friends and like you as a person if at some future time you do come out to them maybe that would make them have to rethink the whole thing and come to a different understanding.

MisterAndrews
November 24th, 2009, 05:54 PM
I think you can only accept that it is his opinion, however misinformed it may be. Maybe if you come out to him it will make him see that it isn't a bad thing at all.

Also, maybe he has a problem with things beginning with "homo". He doesnt like homosexuals, he is homophobic, he doesnt understand the homophones weather and whether!

The Joker
November 25th, 2009, 12:34 AM
I really like him as a friend, and can't believe he would think of things that way.

Billy15
November 25th, 2009, 01:11 AM
To be honest, it amazes me that some people actually still think like the op does. It is almost 2010 isn't it? I overlook a lot but self righteousness pisses me off. Forgive me but to me it takes a small mind or a small person to think that just because someone is different then me, well there must be something wrong or abnormal about them and for anyone who is gay, I would think the (Q-word) is just as hurtful as the (N-word) was for blacks.

I don't even know for sure if I am gay or not but I think iam and if Iam, I can promise you I was born this way, just as god evidently intended for me to be. maybe it is genetic, maybe it is normal, maybe its just another way of life that deserves just as much respect and dignity as the op's way of life. He is what he is and gays are what they are and one is definitely no better then the other.

The Joker
November 25th, 2009, 01:47 AM
It's not my view on it, William. It actually really upset me.

Appleton
November 25th, 2009, 06:54 AM
I agree with Nick. Your friend has some really frightening preconceived notions. I'm wondering how he would have responded if he knew you were gay, but then I think I'd rather know my friend had these feelings so we could discuss and/or deal with them. Please don't let the opinions of one person make you any less of the person that you were intended to be.

Sapphire
November 25th, 2009, 09:23 AM
You asked a controversial question through a medium where people can respond with anonymity and yet you seem surprised that someone used that medium to air their view which just so happens to starkly oppose your own...

I'm wondering why you did it tbh.

TheKingDavis
November 25th, 2009, 10:35 AM
Hm. He/She couldn't spell asshole could they? Hm. I thought of a better word. Homophobe.

there are alot of people that act "homophobe" to cover up their true homosexual orientation

DareDevil
November 25th, 2009, 12:28 PM
Wow... Well that's rather disgusting.

Pay people like that no mind. If they can't present their case and spell at the same time, it's a big indicator they should be disregarded. Not to mention the whole schtick about "whether or not to keep the baby" is just ludicrous.

Not sure what advice I could offer for approaching a person like that, other than to be ready for anything.

The Joker
November 25th, 2009, 07:30 PM
You asked a controversial question through a medium where people can respond with anonymity and yet you seem surprised that someone used that medium to air their view which just so happens to starkly oppose your own...

I'm wondering why you did it tbh.

I asked him it because I didn't know. He wasn't anonymous, as I messaged him first. He has a different opinion, one which directly goes against my beliefs and who I am, do you see why that upsets me?

Sapphire
November 25th, 2009, 07:39 PM
I asked him it because I didn't know. He wasn't anonymous, as I messaged him first. He has a different opinion, one which directly goes against my beliefs and who I am, do you see why that upsets me?
Yes, of course I see why it upsets you. If he were my friend then it would upset me too.

I did not know that you had approached him directly and that is how he told you. Though that is hardly surprising considering that your first sentence of the OP leads everyone to believe that this all occurred through Honesty Box...

The Joker
November 25th, 2009, 09:57 PM
It was through honesty box, what I meant was that I knew who he was and he knew I knew.

Fourth Dimension
November 25th, 2009, 09:59 PM
What The Fuck Thats Bullshit Its Not A Illness Its How You Feel

cherry_boi
November 25th, 2009, 11:36 PM
lmao ignorance in it's prime

if ppl like this wud put as much effort into becoming informed, tolerant, empathetic, and emotionally developed individuals as they do into thinking up bizzare offensive and incorrect ways to "cure" homosexuality ...

....well i think that wud solve the majority of the worlds problems :p

lolz gotta have hope that they will eventually learn tho :)

Severus Snape
November 26th, 2009, 12:30 AM
Its hard to rationalize indoctrinated hatred. People fear, hate, and attack anything they do not understand or relate to. For some reason, some straight people seem to legitimately fear gay people for reasons I don't understand. I think they feel threatened by something they consider to be a perversion of sexuality, and in most classic cases, a offense against god.

The latest trend I see is that gayness is now a 'disease'. What resemblances does it bear? Hmm....its not infectious, contagious (unfortunately...) or spread by microbe. Holy shit batman! That sure sounds like a disease!

Ignore stuff like this. It was the same thing 100 years ago when political rights for blacks were brought up. Society becomes more tolerant of minority groups as a whole after some epic struggle. The struggle may be happening now but I think the inevitable result is going to be in favor of the gay community, and once legally considered on par with straight people, gay people will follow suit and be considered average functioning members of society.

Until then, keep the music loud and drown this kind of BS out.

Activate
November 26th, 2009, 05:34 AM
I teared up reading that.. It makes me feel physically ill knowing there's someone who believes homosexuals are on the same par with down syndrome people.

Since when does someone suffering with down syndrome have such a perfect life a normal person does?

Sapphire
November 26th, 2009, 06:12 AM
It was through honesty box, what I meant was that I knew who he was and he knew I knew.So you did read his response and find out his identity through the honesty box which allows people to say things anonymously.

But I still don't understand why you did it considering how upset reading something that goes against your own views has made you...

What The Fuck Thats Bullshit Its Not A Illness Its How You FeelThat doesn't make any sense. Just because something makes you feel something doesn't mean that it isn't an illness.
Schizophrenia commonly makes you feel important but that doesn't mean that it isn't an illness, for instance.

lmao ignorance in it's prime

if ppl like this wud put as much effort into becoming informed, tolerant, empathetic, and emotionally developed individuals as they do into thinking up bizzare offensive and incorrect ways to "cure" homosexuality ...
There are scientists who do research into this type of thing, you know. http://www.narth.com/

The latest trend I see is that gayness is now a 'disease'. What resemblances does it bear? Hmm....its not infectious, contagious (unfortunately...) or spread by microbe. Holy shit batman! That sure sounds like a disease!I would hardly say that it's a recent "trend". Especially since it was only in the 70's that homosexuality was removed as a mental illness from the DSM.

The Joker
November 26th, 2009, 09:29 PM
Carole, I didn't know his views. I didn't know they would be like that, otherwise I wouldn't have asked.

Sapphire
November 27th, 2009, 06:22 AM
I know that.
I just don't understand why you would put yourself in a position where it would be easy for someone to say exactly how they feel when there was a 50:50 chance of them really upsetting you...

Drusilla Rules
December 5th, 2009, 02:15 PM
fucking hell it's not a disability, gay people, bi people and straight people r the same