View Full Version : incest? is it ok? second cousins?
Holding On*
November 14th, 2009, 10:04 PM
someone was talking to me about relationshops with cousins and second cousins etc and it got me thinking bout it and i wanted to know all of your opinions on it... so i made a poll. :) thanks
i am aware of all the inputs about how family may disagree or if get together and hve kids - might have problems physicall or mentally. might get bullied etc...
but anyway, yeh vote in poll :)
Grinchilla
November 15th, 2009, 12:12 AM
I'm one of those people that thinks pretty much anything is OK if it doesn't hurt others. bestiality and the works... not saying what you're asking about is like that! :p
I don't feel like getting into philosophy and logic right now :p but yeah... I'm crazy
tripolar
November 15th, 2009, 01:27 AM
Simple. Keep it outside of the family.
Hatsune Miku
November 15th, 2009, 03:01 AM
I would say Second cousins or further only
Because cousins are blood related
2nd cousins arn't
Art_dude
November 15th, 2009, 04:42 PM
exactly what matt said : Second cousins aren't blood related. Still seems a little weird, but it checks out in my book. First cousins is (in my opinion) wrong.
cherry_boi
November 15th, 2009, 11:20 PM
umm i'd say i find it unacceptable in all situations
accept where they have been involved intimately for a very long time and then find out after the fact that they r genetically related....i'd say that's ok....as long as they do not have kids
oh, and yea, second cousins ARE genetically related.....if ur cousin has a child that is ur second cousin and they share similar DNA with u....
karl
November 16th, 2009, 08:38 AM
I don't know about USA, but sex with your cousin isn't illegal in UK, in fact cousins can marry
Patchy
November 16th, 2009, 12:02 PM
I don't like the idea of having a relationship with family at all.
If this turns into a debate it will be moved to ROTW.
laurita_21
November 16th, 2009, 12:50 PM
second cousens arent really related like just couzens but i don't know if some one could be going out with a second couzen- !!! QUEEN victoria did didnt she ?
CaptainObvious
November 16th, 2009, 01:03 PM
As long as there is no reproduction, there can be nothing morally wrong with it. However, I think that incestuous relationships most often turn out badly and are inadvisable; that does not make them wrong.
Aves
November 16th, 2009, 05:39 PM
I mean unless it's so far off that they are like your 9th cousin twice removed then yeah. But honestly not to sure.
Hatsune Miku
November 16th, 2009, 10:40 PM
Second cousin is your first cousins child (Or your mothers cousin)
Your first cousin comes from your aunts and uncles
which come from your grandmother and grandfather
DNA related but not blood related. Now that i think about it. I don't think its really right. Because I would of said at least 3rd cousin, but thats your cousins, cousins child. Wouldn't you already be really old?
Kahn
November 16th, 2009, 10:43 PM
Wrong in all situations. Changed from second cousin because I read some of the posts and didn't realize that Second cousins are genetically related. My bad..
hugslut
November 16th, 2009, 10:49 PM
the notion of it makes me uncomfortable.
Grinchilla
November 17th, 2009, 01:38 AM
"Second cousin is your first cousins child (Or your mothers cousin)"
No... second cousins are your mother's cousins
Your 1st cousin's children are called cousin's once removed.
Both are related though. Both can have issues if you have children.
I really see nothing wrong with it... a childless bond. people just immediately mark it off as "of course it's bad"... If they think about it adn still decide it's wrong, that's ok in my book.
Hatsune Miku
November 17th, 2009, 01:48 AM
"Second cousin is your first cousins child (Or your mothers cousin)"
No... second cousins are your mother's cousins
Your 1st cousin's children are called cousin's once removed.
Both are related though. Both can have issues if you have children.
I really see nothing wrong with it... a childless bond. people just immediately mark it off as "of course it's bad"... If they think about it adn still decide it's wrong, that's ok in my book.
It can either be your mothers cousin OR your first cousins children
DAMMIT IM CONFUSED
Grinchilla
November 17th, 2009, 01:57 AM
Idk, maybe in general speak 2nd cousins can refer to both heh, but in genealogy, the term is specifically for parents' cousins.
I think it's more confusing for the same phrase to refer to both haha
Do you know that hobbits are inbred? :D :D:D:D my hobby is hobbit ancestry. Really... are you peeps suggesting hobbits are wrong???? They ahve the cutest furry little toes! and paunches!
Gumleaf
November 17th, 2009, 06:41 AM
my honest opinion is that you should stay out of familes. however, if everyone is ok with it then i think from second cousins onwards, it would be ok. but first cousins, not at all, because you are blood relatives.
CaptainObvious
November 17th, 2009, 12:38 PM
my honest opinion is that you should stay out of familes. however, if everyone is ok with it then i think from second cousins onwards, it would be ok. but first cousins, not at all, because you are blood relatives.
Why should being blood relatives matter morally if there is no reproduction? Remember, the incest taboo is based on the strong evolutionary reasons not to inbreed.
One possible answer is that incestuous relationships, involving family as they do, are often extremely complex and normally turn out badly. That is definitely a valid argument - but not a reason to disapprove of such relationships a priori, in general.
Kale
November 18th, 2009, 11:12 PM
i don't believe that it's WRONG to preform incest on a physical level, but from a moral viewpoint, it's MAJORLY FUCKED UP BEYOND WHAT YOU UNDERSTAND.
personally, i don't care if they're cousins by marriage twice removed from across europe, it's still wrong.
Kapitan Kokenbalz
November 18th, 2009, 11:16 PM
Sure, why not. I'm sure you two can relate (LOL OH SNAP, A PUN). ._.
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