Body Modification [Archive] - Virtual Teen Forums

INFERNO

November 6th, 2009, 02:49 AM

I have no problem with it at all. If someone wants to get piercings all down their spine or sew their genitals shut, I have no problem with that. I'm not one to do something like that but I see no reason as to why my view opinion on it should prevent or discourage someone who wants to do it from doing it.

With that all said, I don't entirely care for things such as gauges when they become enormous. For the picture of the OP, I don't consider those enormous.

There are some people though who for one reason or another wish to engage in extreme body modification, such as people with Body Integrity Identity Disorder (BIID) or Amputee Identity Disorder. These people usually wish to be amputees and in some cases, they will perform DIY amputations or try to get surgeons to do it for them. That's an obvious case of body modification.

When it comes to body modification, especially if it's a severe modification, I'd rather ask the person why they wish to get that modification rather than tell them I don't care for it.

Camazotz

November 6th, 2009, 09:13 AM

Whatever you want, I say go for it. I'm never getting any piercings or tattoos, but if other people want them, go right ahead.

Death

November 6th, 2009, 01:15 PM

Personally, I don't fancy tampering with my own anatomy although there's obviously nothing wrong with it, it's your choice after all.

thepieman

November 6th, 2009, 01:22 PM

I agree its the person's own choice. Personally I would modify in moderation, but I couldn't go any further.

Sugaree

November 6th, 2009, 03:41 PM

I have no disagreements towards body modification. But I do think that there should be moderation implied by the person who is modifying his/her body. Yes, it is their body and they have every right to do with it what they want; however, there should be some moderation.

laurita_21

November 6th, 2009, 03:50 PM

i don't really like it. i really dont understand how people can do that :S
well its thyer choice. i personally dont like it XD

ShatteredWings

November 6th, 2009, 06:25 PM

I honestly think your gauges are a little tooo big.

Personal tastes anyway.

I think, however, it's your own goddamn body and you're own choice. If you want to mess around with it that's fine. I personally want a few tattoos in a more or less cover able place. And a few more piercings.

Meh. Your body, you're life, you're choice.

CaptainObvious

November 6th, 2009, 07:30 PM

It's the person's own choice. If you like it, go for it. Conversely, I think things like gauges - including yours - look terrible and are a horrible choice. But that's why they're not in my ears: to each their own.

Patchy

November 6th, 2009, 07:56 PM

I don't mind it to a degree, I love most ear piercings.

However I can see why some employers don't want any more than 1 or 2 piercings on the face, might put off customers.

Sachin

November 13th, 2009, 06:31 AM

Whoa, whoa, whoa... some people chop off their own FINGERS? xDDD hahaha, that's a tad terrifying, to be honest. xD

Techno Monster

November 13th, 2009, 12:21 PM

I agree completely with body modification, I used to have size 8 gauges myself. :)
I love how it's becoming more popular.

CJHopkins

December 26th, 2009, 12:53 AM

I personally Love body mod. I had my cartilage gauged to around a 10 and a my septum as a 12 or 10. I started getting getting piercings at age 13 and I love them! I've ha things ranging from ears, lip, tongue, hips, top and bottom of my belly button, eyebrow.. Yadda yadda yadda, however I got pretty bored with them and tookall out but my tongue ring.. And I'm soon getting some tats :) woooo body mod! ;)

Jean Poutine

December 26th, 2009, 03:53 AM

Body Modification

Is lame.

If I were an employer, I would never hire you, nor would I hire anyone who shows a taste in either plowing huge holes in their bodies or sticking metal shards everywhere into them.

The reason is simple. It shows people lack maturity. If you thought about THAT future and deemed it irrelevent and went ahead with the holes or didn't think about it at all, you're immature. If you think society has to bend to your whim and respect every choice you make, you're doubly so. I do not like immaturity and most people don't either. I have never seen someone with gauges work anything except menial tasks.

Society isn't perfect, but people that go ahead with stuff that is generally frowned upon in society have to live with the consequences. If I might lose business because someone disapproves of your apparence, or if I think it's going to cause workplace drama and diminish productivity, then I'm not going to take the risk, equality be damned. Your resume is going straight to the trash even if you hold a doctorate in civil engineering from the MIT.

Liken it to someone posting a picture of their johnson on their Myspace because they're so cool. Or a more serious example, a picture of them doing graffiti on private property because graffiti is totally counterculture and is deep and passes messages. If an employer stumbles upon it while cross-referencing you, you're toast. They won't look twice at your qualifications. They've seen the person as an immature vandal not to be trusted with anything. They might even fire you if they've taken you already.

If you want to be on the fringe, expect to live on the fringe.

overcome.

December 26th, 2009, 10:57 AM

It's their choice, it's none of my business. I believe that all forms of body modification are ways of people expressing themselves. If they share these strong views and want to treat their body this way, it's upto them (them being anybody else but me). I'll do what makes me happy, you do makes you happy. Just try to be smart and don't do something you could end up regretting later on in life.

MoveAlong

December 26th, 2009, 02:52 PM

I think that facial tattoos are not a good thing. It covers up your face. Your face personal, and I don't want to see distractions from that.
I also think that really dark tattoos or tattoos that are inappropriate should not be done.

I personally really don't like gauges, but a lot of people like them.

Nullifications, scarifications and amputations and stuff like that really needs to be limited, I think.

I think that minimal body mods are fine really. I think employers should welcome the diversity that comes with people expressing themselves through tattoos and piercings (if appropriate and limited). Although, I think employers need to limit those with nullifications, scarifications and amputations, as these can disturb customers.

Burnthecity, you look fine. I think some employers wouldn't appreciate the gauges though.

Motormouth, that picture is exactly what I'm talking about when it comes to overdoing. Like, that is kinda gross to me. Ick.

But yeah, a few piercings and/or a few tattoos are fine to me. Though hooray for those who keep it natural.

INFERNO

December 26th, 2009, 05:09 PM

I think that facial tattoos are not a good thing. It covers up your face. Your face personal, and I don't want to see distractions from that.
I also think that really dark tattoos or tattoos that are inappropriate should not be done.

Dark tattoos as in the colour of the tattoo or figuratively-speaking of a tattoo being dark? What are inappropriate tattoos?

I agree with the facial tattoos, it's distracting and I'm not sure how the person would get a decent job, especially if the facial tattoo is large. If I were to get a tattoo, I'd get it on my shoulder region, not face.

Nullifications, scarifications and amputations and stuff like that really needs to be limited, I think.

Why? I agree it may not be the most pleasant thing to see but if the person is in a fit state of mind, then why not let them? Doing amputations for reasons such as BIID I think is something where the person ideally should seek psychiatric help because it's a modification that impairs oneself physically and can be deadly if done by the person as a DIY.

I think that minimal body mods are fine really. I think employers should welcome the diversity that comes with people expressing themselves through tattoos and piercings (if appropriate and limited). Although, I think employers need to limit those with nullifications, scarifications and amputations, as these can disturb customers.

Agree, although see above for my question of what's appropriate.

MoveAlong

December 26th, 2009, 11:03 PM

Dark tattoos as in the colour of the tattoo or figuratively-speaking of a tattoo being dark? What are inappropriate tattoos?
Both really.
I personally think solidly black tattoos (some people get a band that's all around their arm that goes up to their elbow in black ink) are really pointless.
Dark tattoos, in the sense that they are of "dark" images or topics, might define a person, but if they are visible in the workplace, they might not be a wise decision, especially with customers who don't appreciate those images.

Inappropriate tattoos are tattoos of naked people, or sexual organs, acts, curse words, etc. These again, I think, make a person appear not only hostile, but also they aren't appropriate for a workplace or if they were visible. (in my opinion).

Why? I agree it may not be the most pleasant thing to see but if the person is in a fit state of mind, then why not let them? Doing amputations for reasons such as BIID I think is something where the person ideally should seek psychiatric help because it's a modification that impairs oneself physically and can be deadly if done by the person as a DIY.

DIY body mods are a very bad idea. I think it's okay for a person to make the decision to get a nullification/amputation, etc. But they have to consider how they're going to be viewed by an employer. Missing limbs/body parts are disturbing to some people, including elder people or children, who could show up as/with customers. Sure, you might argue "well what if they see someone who lost their leg in the army? that's basically the same thing". I don't have a counter to that. But the difference is that you didn't LOSE it - you made the odd decision.

But I think making the decision to get this type of body mod is strange.
Sorry, I'm terrible at coming up with words to back up my statements, but I still believe in them.

Dead_User

December 27th, 2009, 01:47 AM

I wanna know how you all feel about body modification

Example, my ears!

http://photos-c.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc3/hs086.snc3/15360_164718949906_851244906_2642040_5963913_n.jpg

It's a bit too extreme for me..

INFERNO

December 27th, 2009, 04:23 AM

Both really.
I personally think solidly black tattoos (some people get a band that's all around their arm that goes up to their elbow in black ink) are really pointless.
Dark tattoos, in the sense that they are of "dark" images or topics, might define a person, but if they are visible in the workplace, they might not be a wise decision, especially with customers who don't appreciate those images.

Inappropriate tattoos are tattoos of naked people, or sexual organs, acts, curse words, etc. These again, I think, make a person appear not only hostile, but also they aren't appropriate for a workplace or if they were visible. (in my opinion).

True, they may not be the best idea for a workplace when dealing with customers but depending where it's located, in most cases it can be concealed. So supposing it's concealed, whether it be on the forearm, chest, back, thigh, etc..., do you think it's still bad or is it context-independent?

DIY body mods are a very bad idea. I think it's okay for a person to make the decision to get a nullification/amputation, etc. But they have to consider how they're going to be viewed by an employer. Missing limbs/body parts are disturbing to some people, including elder people or children, who could show up as/with customers.

I agree, it's not a great idea because if you lop off a limb, you cant conceal it being lost unless you get a fake one. For cases of BIID where they want certain limbs off, I think it's dangerous and will severely limit one's functioning and career opportunities. Most tattoos can be hidden and large piercings or gages, depending on how numerous and large, usually won't impair one's career opportunities as much as a lost limb may. Regardless if they'll be interacting directly with customers, if one wants to lop off a limb and tries to or tries to get someone else to, I think they need psychiatric attention before limbs go flying around.

DoveGreySands

December 27th, 2009, 11:33 AM

They're not that bad, I don't mind them. Then again i'm more of a rocky type chick than anything else so you appeal to my fashion sense and that's what piercings are all about, appealing to people of your similiar tastes. :)

MoveAlong

December 27th, 2009, 12:56 PM

True, they may not be the best idea for a workplace when dealing with customers but depending where it's located, in most cases it can be concealed. So supposing it's concealed, whether it be on the forearm, chest, back, thigh, etc..., do you think it's still bad or is it context-independent?

I think it's okay and fine if it's concealed! But personally, I think poorly thought out tattoos, dark/vicious tattoos and inappropriate tattoos are just distasteful.

Dead_User

December 27th, 2009, 06:13 PM

There's only two tattoos I'd actually CONSIDER...:
The "Nintendo" Logo, and the stamp-on sign that says "Hecho en Mexico"

INFERNO

December 27th, 2009, 08:41 PM

But personally, I think poorly thought out tattoos, dark/vicious tattoos and inappropriate tattoos are just distasteful.

I agree on the poorly-thought out tattoos because a tattoo isn't meant to be something you can wash off the next day if you don't care for it, it's meant to be something permanently etched onto one's skin. The dark or vicious tattoos I'm more lenient on as they can reflect the person and their history. If a person had a life and up-bringing that was pretty much hell, then it's reasonable to expect that if they get a tattoo, it's going to follow suite, it's not likely to be a pleasant, flowery tattoo. The tattoos of a woman or man naked or something similar I really don't find appealing regardless of the reason. Having someone's name or face is one thing but a tattoo of a naked person I find to just be very unusual and somewhat crude.

In general though, if one gets a tattoo, I think it should have a deep meaning to it and not be done just for kicks in life, because someone turned 18 and decided to celebrate, etc... . I do agree though that if you're going to work with customers, then ideally have the tattoo in a place where it's readily concealable, especially if it's a tattoo of a more deviant nature.

MoveAlong

December 27th, 2009, 10:35 PM

I agree on the poorly-thought out tattoos because a tattoo isn't meant to be something you can wash off the next day if you don't care for it, it's meant to be something permanently etched onto one's skin. The dark or vicious tattoos I'm more lenient on as they can reflect the person and their history. If a person had a life and up-bringing that was pretty much hell, then it's reasonable to expect that if they get a tattoo, it's going to follow suite, it's not likely to be a pleasant, flowery tattoo. The tattoos of a woman or man naked or something similar I really don't find appealing regardless of the reason. Having someone's name or face is one thing but a tattoo of a naked person I find to just be very unusual and somewhat crude.

In general though, if one gets a tattoo, I think it should have a deep meaning to it and not be done just for kicks in life, because someone turned 18 and decided to celebrate, etc... . I do agree though that if you're going to work with customers, then ideally have the tattoo in a place where it's readily concealable, especially if it's a tattoo of a more deviant nature.

coolio, we see eye to eye :thumbsup:

Triceratops

December 28th, 2009, 12:36 PM

I personally view body modification as an intriguing way for one to express themself. Unless they're committing extreme damages upon themselves, then I see no problem with it. I think it's nice to see someone who stands out and refuses to blend in and conform to society's typical conventions - so why attempt to remove their right from having these piercings and tattoo's? Also, why limit these people from doing something? I think it's ridiculous when it comes to forbidding someone from a certain employment just because of what they have on their body (unless they look like something from a circus act). It's not as if these modifications alter their personality, motivation and conscientiousness towards a career or their own citizenship.

I agree with the concept of being careful and aware of what you place on your body. Being careless and unthoughtful towards the precautions of these modifications says a lot about the person already. The individual needs to know where to stop and the effect it will have on them, as body modification can become extremely addictive and physically dangerous.

obiwan94

December 28th, 2009, 11:02 PM

Uchimata...your opinion that body modification is immature is in itself an immature westerncentric opinion. Yes, people should be comfortable with their bodied but modifying it isn't a sign of immaturity or discomfort with it. In many societies it's norm. Just because it's not for western societies doesn't mean you need to be judgmental about it. Body modification (piercing and tattoos) has been around for centuries.

I will admit that there are times when someone needs to see a psychologist because of desire for really destructive modifications. But otherwise, if someone is comfortable with their body and wants to modify it, then it's their perogative.

I won't lie though, my parents would freak if I ever got a tattoo or piercing (or found out about the one I have)

INFERNO

December 29th, 2009, 10:07 AM

why limit these people from doing something? I think it's ridiculous when it comes to forbidding someone from a certain employment just because of what they have on their body (unless they look like something from a circus act). It's not as if these modifications alter their personality, motivation and conscientiousness towards a career or their own citizenship.

Correct, they don't alter their personality or anything like that. However, Western societies don't approve of certain amounts of body modification and from a business perspective, a business would be crazy to hire people who have large amounts of body modifications. There are of course exceptions to this, such as tattoo and piercing parlours but excluding those exceptions, if the business knows that customers will be uncomfortable with the amount of body modification on their employees, then why would the business hire them? Sure it may make a statement from the business showing how such modifications are fine but it can ruin their business, so a capitalist would be crazy if they wanted to do something that would very likely reduce their business.

Antares

December 29th, 2009, 06:43 PM

AGH!
I don't mean to offend or insult anyone but...
I hate it!
it looks so bad!
And it seems like people don't think about how it will look in say...10 years!

Uhh, anyways, unfortunately gauges bother me probably the most...right up there with excessive and misplaced piercing. I think im fine with gauges up to 1/4 of an inch.

Uhh, if someone has more than like 5 piercings within say...1 sq foot of their body, its probably maybe too much.

I know people want to 'express' themselves but aren't there ways that dont create such an unsavory look??? And sometimes the modifications look fine when people initially get them but when they become...40 or even 50, that tatoo that you once got, ain't so hawt and sexy anymore.

What other types are there...not sure what else there is, then there are always the scary people that want to be lions and tigers and bears (oh my!)...

ShatteredWings

December 29th, 2009, 07:11 PM

Uhh, if someone has more than like 5 piercings within say...1 sq foot of their body, its probably maybe too much.

What about ears?
I've got 2 holes in each ear. So that's 4 holes in a lot less than a square foot of skin. (with plans for 2 more in each ear, hopefully)

Just curious.

DarkWingedAngel

December 29th, 2009, 08:08 PM

personally it's there body if they want to do it then so be it
for me a have 2 in each ear
i plan on getting at least 4 more
i have places pierced down there and i have my lip done
i plan on getting snakebites too and my tounge done as well as a few tattoos.

INFERNO

December 29th, 2009, 09:41 PM

AGH!
I don't mean to offend or insult anyone but...
I hate it!
it looks so bad!
And it seems like people don't think about how it will look in say...10 years!

What type of body modification are you referring to? Piercings can generally go away in less than 10 years if one chooses to stop wearing the ear-rings or whatever it is. For tattoos and more permanent modifications though, why do you say people don't think how it will look years down the road? If the tattoo isn't made on the fly, then I think that should be considered.

Uhh, if someone has more than like 5 piercings within say...1 sq foot of their body, its probably maybe too much.

Why that specific amount?

I know people want to 'express' themselves but aren't there ways that dont create such an unsavory look??? And sometimes the modifications look fine when people initially get them but when they become...40 or even 50, that tatoo that you once got, ain't so hawt and sexy anymore.

True, the tattoo can eventually look bad but I don't think that's something the person can be blamed for. Times change and if the certain tattoo's theme becomes unfashionable, the person has no control over that. As long as they're still comfortable with the tattoo, then I see no problem.

What other types are there...not sure what else there is, then there are always the scary people that want to be lions and tigers and bears (oh my!)...

Those are the extremes where I think a psychiatric assessment is in the calling.