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TheTruth
October 25th, 2009, 06:49 PM
Okay this may tie into sexism aswell, but im not sure. So yeah anyway, I'm getting really annoyed lately because men seem to have this new stereotype now and women are assuming every man is the same for example. I was off school for a week because of a nasty cold which many students of both sexes had caught and when i came back one of the teachers asked me why i was off and i said because i had a cold she asked if it was serious and i said yes but as soon as i said that she was making extreme comments about me having man flu for example she said i was over reacting and men call every cold man flu cuz they car be arsed to do anything. At this point I felt like punching her. What gives her the right to immediately class me as some of the males in her life. I didn't even say it was man flu! And for those who noticed i said i felt like punching her and thought i was being typical aggressive male then Why do you think that, are you saying women are now incapable of throwing a punch?? What the hell is happening to society.
SEXISM AND STEREOTYPING IS REALLY TIKIN ME OFF!!!
SOooo thoughts....
Sage
October 25th, 2009, 06:51 PM
Well, stereotypes exist for reasons.
Lily of the Valley
October 25th, 2009, 11:42 PM
Okay this may tie into sexism aswell, but im not sure. So yeah anyway, I'm getting really annoyed lately because men seem to have this new stereotype now and women are assuming every man is the same for example. I was off school for a week because of a nasty cold which many students of both sexes had caught and when i came back one of the teachers asked me why i was off and i said because i had a cold she asked if it was serious and i said yes but as soon as i said that she was making extreme comments about me having man flu for example she said i was over reacting and men call every cold man flu cuz they car be arsed to do anything. At this point I felt like punching her. What gives her the right to immediately class me as some of the males in her life. I didn't even say it was man flu! And for those who noticed i said i felt like punching her and thought i was being typical aggressive male then Why do you think that, are you saying women are now incapable of throwing a punch?? What the hell is happening to society.
SEXISM AND STEREOTYPING IS REALLY TIKIN ME OFF!!!
SOooo thoughts....That's called joking, dude. The "man flu" is a joke.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uaZ2SPZUiZc&feature=PlayList&p=FFA34DF91010FFD9&playnext=1&playnext_from=PL&index=44
Stop taking everything so seriously.
~Maggot
deadpie
October 25th, 2009, 11:47 PM
I wrote something about stereotyping a long time ago when i was like twelve, so here is my views on it-
The disease that infects society is the groups and stereotypes man has created. The world could be better off without these things, and maybe some of us could find ourselves.
Is it really necessary to put yourself under a group? Is it necessary to call yourself these stupid things like, ‘Prep, Goth, Emo, Geek, Nerd, Jock, etc.’? If you think about it, these groups define who you are. These groups tell you who to hate, who to like, who to fuck, how to dress, how to act, and what to say at précised times. Even worse, they tell you how to feel.
If you want to be someone, kill your stereotype. Don’t make people tell you who to hate, love, snuff, and fuck. Don’t let people tell you what to look like and how to feel. Those are the people you should get away from. Make your own decisions, even if it’s real shitty ones. Just be who you want to be.
MykeSoBe
October 26th, 2009, 11:26 PM
I wrote something about stereotyping a long time ago when i was like twelve, so here is my views on it-
The disease that infects society is the groups and stereotypes man has created. The world could be better off without these things, and maybe some of us could find ourselves.
Is it really necessary to put yourself under a group? Is it necessary to call yourself these stupid things like, ‘Prep, Goth, Emo, Geek, Nerd, Jock, etc.’? If you think about it, these groups define who you are. These groups tell you who to hate, who to like, who to fuck, how to dress, how to act, and what to say at précised times. Even worse, they tell you how to feel.
If you want to be someone, kill your stereotype. Don’t make people tell you who to hate, love, snuff, and fuck. Don’t let people tell you what to look like and how to feel. Those are the people you should get away from. Make your own decisions, even if it’s real shitty ones. Just be who you want to be.
Finally someone stood up for us all!
INFERNO
October 26th, 2009, 11:35 PM
Stereotyping isn't necessarily a bad thing, only certain stereotypes can be negative. In fact, you were committing the fundamental attribution error and stereotyping females and males in addition to stereotyping stereotyping.
I wrote something about stereotyping a long time ago when i was like twelve, so here is my views on it-
The disease that infects society is the groups and stereotypes man has created. The world could be better off without these things, and maybe some of us could find ourselves.
Is it really necessary to put yourself under a group? Is it necessary to call yourself these stupid things like, ‘Prep, Goth, Emo, Geek, Nerd, Jock, etc.’? If you think about it, these groups define who you are. These groups tell you who to hate, who to like, who to fuck, how to dress, how to act, and what to say at précised times. Even worse, they tell you how to feel.
If you want to be someone, kill your stereotype. Don’t make people tell you who to hate, love, snuff, and fuck. Don’t let people tell you what to look like and how to feel. Those are the people you should get away from. Make your own decisions, even if it’s real shitty ones. Just be who you want to be.
So essentially you're saying anarchy is the way to go.
Sage
October 27th, 2009, 05:22 AM
I wrote something about stereotyping a long time ago when i was like twelve, so here is my views on it-
The disease that infects society is the groups and stereotypes man has created. The world could be better off without these things, and maybe some of us could find ourselves.
Is it really necessary to put yourself under a group? Is it necessary to call yourself these stupid things like, ‘Prep, Goth, Emo, Geek, Nerd, Jock, etc.’? If you think about it, these groups define who you are. These groups tell you who to hate, who to like, who to fuck, how to dress, how to act, and what to say at précised times. Even worse, they tell you how to feel.
If you want to be someone, kill your stereotype. Don’t make people tell you who to hate, love, snuff, and fuck. Don’t let people tell you what to look like and how to feel. Those are the people you should get away from. Make your own decisions, even if it’s real shitty ones. Just be who you want to be.
Bahahahah, no.
There are three concepts I feel I should explain quickly. There's conformity, which you should all know about. Then there's anti-conformity. An anti-conformist is one who believes that they can achieve their goals and/or become 'cool' by doing the exact opposite of the conformists. Then there's non-conformity, which is a blissful state of not giving a fuck about other people. This is what anti-conformists will claim to be, but they aren't, because they go out of their away to avoid anything done by conformists.
If someone at my school dresses like an emo, it's not because the concept of 'emo' was burned into their skull like some sort of morbid religious indoctrination. They looked over the style and scene and interests/hobbies associated with it and liked what they saw. If someone has chosen to put a label on themselves, then why the fuck make a big deal over it? Let the dumb dogs have their bones.
You say you should respect people for their choices, even stupid ones, so how's about you respect peoples' choice to put a label on themselves?
Checkmate.
Sapphire
October 27th, 2009, 05:40 AM
The OP needs to recognise that the whole concept of man flu is an international joke and not an evil stereotype that needs exterminating.
TheTruth
October 27th, 2009, 11:37 AM
What i was saying is tht men seem to be developing this certain stereotype that we're different from women, physically, yes we are, our bodies are different but our minds are the same it just annoys me that if you complain or reason something you've done your immediately put into a group.
Sapphire
October 27th, 2009, 12:12 PM
TheTruth, are you really suggesting that the acknowledgment of differences between the psychological make up of men and women is a new thing?
Lily of the Valley
October 27th, 2009, 02:25 PM
What i was saying is tht men seem to be developing this certain stereotype that we're different from women, physically, yes we are, our bodies are different but our minds are the same it just annoys me that if you complain or reason something you've done your immediately put into a group.What part of "IT'S A JOKE" aren't you getting?
~Maggot
INFERNO
October 27th, 2009, 10:09 PM
What i was saying is tht men seem to be developing this certain stereotype that we're different from women
Stop right here. Developing? My friend, you seem to have missed hundreds of years of history. In addition to missing this history, you seem to be amazed that this concept of patriarchical domination is a new thing. It's not.
physically, yes we are, our bodies are different but our minds are the same it just annoys me that if you complain or reason something you've done your immediately put into a group.
Unfortunately, this idea of putting people into a group is evolutionary advantageous. Consider this situation: persons A, B and C each meet a lion one at a time. Person A realizes that this lion is dangerous to they flee and live another day. Person B thinks they can take the lion, tries and ends up dying. Persons A and B both categorized the lion into a category either as dangerous or cuddly kitty. Person C on the other hand doesn't categorize the lion, in fact, Person C is clueless that this roaring line with big teeth and sharp claws is dangerous so they decide to inspect it and die.
Putting things into a group is useful for all animals so we can know what to interact with and what not to interact with. The same applies to human-human interaction: if a guy is running around wielding a large knife, you're likely to run. If you have no idea whether or not it's dangerous and you stick around, your head ends up rolling along the pavement.
People put one another into a group not to be a jerk to them but simply so they know whether or not to interact, how to interact, when to interact, etc... . This allows us to form social interactions, it allows us to form societies and so forth. Labelling others isn't always going to lead to a perfect result but it's necessary to have labels.
Triceratops
October 29th, 2009, 12:11 PM
Get over it.
Stereotypes occur everywhere. There are bigger and less petty issues out there that require more attention. >__>
At this point I felt like punching her. What gives her the right to immediately class me as some of the males in her life. I didn't even say it was man flu! And for those who noticed i said i felt like punching her and thought i was being typical aggressive male then Why do you think that, are you saying women are now incapable of throwing a punch?? What the hell is happening to society.
Lawl.
boy.on.laptop
November 1st, 2009, 08:36 PM
Unfortunately, this idea of putting people into a group is evolutionary advantageous. Consider this situation: persons A, B and C each meet a lion one at a time. Person A realizes that this lion is dangerous to they flee and live another day. Person B thinks they can take the lion, tries and ends up dying. Persons A and B both categorized the lion into a category either as dangerous or cuddly kitty. Person C on the other hand doesn't categorize the lion, in fact, Person C is clueless that this roaring line with big teeth and sharp claws is dangerous so they decide to inspect it and die.
That is an incrediably narrow perspective to a complex problem. Although I do agree with your viewpoint, to compare social sterotyping in the 21st century to sterotyping of human survival from over 2000 years ago is not relevant. You are not going to die for not putting people into social sterotypes and in the whole I believe you are far more like to come out on top with a more positive perspective. Often people are xenophobic when its innappropiate, I have never heard someone say "man I'm glad I listened to my fears and not tried bungy jumping or flying".
Eagle1
November 2nd, 2009, 02:18 AM
welcome to liberal country
and don't give me neg rep for MY opinions
Sage
November 2nd, 2009, 03:19 AM
welcome to liberal country
and don't give me neg rep for MY opinions
Because conservatives are the essence of not being judgmental, right? Right.
Strength
November 2nd, 2009, 05:32 AM
Stereotypes create themselves.
Sapphire
November 2nd, 2009, 06:03 AM
Stereotypes create themselves.
How can a man-made concept create itself?
INFERNO
November 2nd, 2009, 11:32 PM
Stereotypes create themselves.
That makes no sense, it's like saying any scientific theory made itself. Not possible. The theory of evolution didn't magically make itself, the idea of a deity didn't magically make itself and so forth.
That is an incrediably narrow perspective to a complex problem. Although I do agree with your viewpoint, to compare social sterotyping in the 21st century to sterotyping of human survival from over 2000 years ago is not relevant. You are not going to die for not putting people into social sterotypes and in the whole I believe you are far more like to come out on top with a more positive perspective. Often people are xenophobic when its innappropiate, I have never heard someone say "man I'm glad I listened to my fears and not tried bungy jumping or flying".
True, you're not going to die for not putting someone into a certain stereotype and I probably should've emphasized that. My point was though that as much as the OP may dislike stereotyping, I was trying to show how it's not always going to lead to negative consequences. It may be a somewhat narrow perspective, however, it's a good example of how stereotypes are not always negative. It's not meant to be an example though of how stereotypes having changed throughout the history of humanity, you're reading too much into it at that point. My own viewpoints on stereotyping is more than merely an evolutionary one, although it does have an evolutionary component.
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