White History Month?

[Church]

There is Black, Hispanic etc history month, why dont white people get one? Is our history not important or something? People say it would be racist for us to have one but I thinks that bull. What do ya'll think?

[Whisper]

I agree whites usually get slammed allot now which pisses me off, i didn't chose my skin anymore than the next guy, to be frank I'd love to have a tan..
But we don't really need to have a month dedicated to getting our history out
we've dominated with empire after empire after empire especially if your looking only at skin colour
It seems whites are good at that so we're actually pretty well known....

[Sapphire]

It isn't a matter of our history not being as important as that of other ethnicities.
We don't have one because we haven't needed one and don't need one. White people and their history are very well documented across the globe because we have impacted it so much - empires, colonies, wars etc.

[Kaleidoscope Eyes]

Well, what do you think you study in history class all year long? Are not a majority of the topics related to white men?

[Whisper]

Well, what do you think you study in history class all year long? Are not a majority of the topics related to white men?
Mine wasn't
I learned about Natives, South America, Asia, a little about the British Empire and France and the world wars

so to say the majority of what you learn is all about the whitties isn't necessarily true
it depends on your education system your grade and frankly your teacher
We're from all over the globe, we've been to differing systems

When I was little I remember wondering how it came about exactly; like what was our history like, did we have tribes? cities? or did we just magically appear on the shores. We would study the Aboriginal tribes, beliefs and culture, hunting grounds I even painted a totem pole with traditional paints in grade 3, yada yada yada then BAM the whites showed up in huge ships with guns and cannons and advanced building techniques, refined metals, strange clothing, alcohol etc..
I learned all about Ancient Greece, the Roman Republic/Empire, Troy, Britannia, etc on my own
Because as far as my education system was concerned whites just magically appeared one day
and it stayed that way until middle school
Then we spent like two weeks on ancient Europe, by then I knew more then the teacher it seemed...

[theOperaGhost]

Mine wasn't
I learned about Natives, South America, Asia, a little about the British Empire and France and the world wars

so to say the majority of what you learn is all about the whitties isn't necessarily true
it depends on your education system your grade and frankly your teacher
We're from all over the globe, we've been to differing systems

When I was little I remember wondering how it came about exactly; like what was our history like, did we have tribes? cities? or did we just magically appear on the shores. We would study the Aboriginal tribes, beliefs and culture, hunting grounds I even painted a totem pole with traditional paints in grade 3, yada yada yada then BAM the whites showed up in huge ships with guns and cannons and advanced building techniques, refined metals, strange clothing, alcohol etc..
I learned all about Ancient Greece, the Roman Republic/Empire, Troy, Britannia, etc on my own
Because as far as my education system was concerned whites just magically appeared one day
and it stayed that way until middle school
Then we spent like two weeks on ancient Europe, by then I knew more then the teacher it seemed...

Same here...I probably know more about black history and native american history than I do about the history of caucasians. I also know a great deal about Chinese history compared to what I know about western history.

I my opinion there really doesn't need to be any *place ethnic background here* history month.

[Perseus]

I my opinion there really doesn't need to be any *place ethnic background here* history month.

I completely agree with that. I mean, what's the point of having a dedicated month for the history of one race/ethnicity? I don't know a lot about those certain races even with the history month, so it doesn't make an impact. I've learned about a lot of stuff just on my own..

[The Batman]

Back when it was created we really did need it because there weren't many people teaching about the contributions of African Americans in society so it was pretty much there to educate african americans about their own race at first.(I don't know much about hispanic heritage month) But I really don't think it's relevant in this day and time because we are a lot more educated on it.

[INFERNO]

I see two theoretical possibilities. First, give every race their own month and treat them all the same while doing so. Second, don't have any months dedicated to any race. Once there are certain races or ethnicities getting their months and others don't, you're going to get people complaining of inequality. Either you treat them all equal by giving each one their own month or none of them get their own month.

Despite those two theoretical possibilities, I see one practical possibility that would work with less resistance and that is to give a white history month. If we begin removing the various months for various races, then there's going to be a large shitstorm. There may still be a shitstorm for a white history month but I think it would be less severe.

In high-school history classes, we learned a little bit about Caucasian history but we also focused a good deal on Aboriginals/Natives, the World Wars, etc... . Although I cant speak much on this because the moment we had a choice in high-school to pick our courses, I dropped history so I'm not sure how much each race was covered in more senior high-school courses.

[mrmcdonaldduck]

its pointless having a month dedicated to the history of any race, regardless of how important they were or the colour of their skin.

[Camazotz]

its pointless having a month dedicated to the history of any race, regardless of how important they were or the colour of their skin.

I completely agree. We should all learn the history and accomplishments of people, but not see them as one race. We should see them as individual people, for that is why equality is about; not favoring one race, which is what we're doing by dedicating months to different races. If we do that, some races are going to be left out, which is obviously unequal.

[Sage]

Hey guys! Here's a suggestion! How about an EVERYTHING History month where we learn about the importance of history in everything!

No I'm not being sarcastic.

[Whisper]

how about people stop being so politically correct
the reason racism is still huge is because everyone spends soooo much energy trying to be politically correct and in the process put a large emphasis on the colour of skin

[mrmcdonaldduck]

Hey guys! Here's a suggestion! How about an EVERYTHING History month where we learn about the importance of history in everything!

No I'm not being sarcastic.

actually thats a good idea.

[theOperaGhost]

how about people stop being so politically correct
the reason racism is still huge is because everyone spends soooo much energy trying to be politically correct and in the process put a large emphasis on the colour of skin

Agreed! There is way too much emphasis on what the proper (politically correct) label of a certain group of people should be.

[SlightlySane]

I don't believe we need a specific month dedicated to one and only one ethnicity. I've never heard of Asian heritage month or anything like that. My suggestion is this. I think we need a Historical Heritage month where we research our own ancestors and take pride in them together as a people instead of just setting aside months where only certain ethnicities take part.

[MykeSoBe]

I don't know about most of Asia and Sub-Saharan Africa, but as far as America and Europe go, let's just not make such a ridiculous dedication.

[My_Toes_Are_Cold]

White history is pretty much the history of Europe. The reason we have "Black/Hispanic/Asian History Month" is because of white guilt; which was eliminated when we elected that black socialist UN lackey for a president as far as I'm concerned.

But, in all seriousness, I find these history months to be incredibly redundant because you learn everything you need to know in your standard history classes. That is, if you pay attention to your standard history classes.

[drumir93]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FO214IFRW1M
I couldn't agree with this more

(I just realized how stupid and unnecessary the second half of this post was so I deleted it)

[boy.on.laptop]

I see two theoretical possibilities. First, give every race their own month and treat them all the same while doing so. Second, don't have any months dedicated to any race. Once there are certain races or ethnicities getting their months and others don't, you're going to get people complaining of inequality. Either you treat them all equal by giving each one their own month or none of them get their own month.

In high-school history classes, we learned a little bit about Caucasian history but we also focused a good deal on Aboriginals/Natives, the World Wars, etc... . .

Last time I checked there were more than 12 ethnicities.... and the "World wars" are predominately cacausian history, as well as much of aborginial/naitive. Based on my assumption inless you studied it in great detail and cultural aspects(which is unlikely at high school level) since so much of abroginial/naitve history is not documentated you would have probably learnt about early european contact which is pretty much related to cacausian history(my apologies if I am wrong).

[Eagle1]

im sorry but blacks use the racist card WAY too much like obama anyone who says they don't like him is automatically racist. MY OPINION

[Sage]

like obama anyone who says they don't like him is automatically racist. MY OPINION

That's not true at all. Politically I'm fairly far on the left and I would've taken Obama over McCain any day, but there are quite a number of things he's done that I don't really agree with.

[The Batman]

im sorry but blacks use the racist card WAY too much like obama anyone who says they don't like him is automatically racist. MY OPINION

"Blacks" don't use the racist card way to much racist idiots do. There are people of every race that does that so don't put it off on an entire one.

[theOperaGhost]

That's not true at all. Politically I'm fairly far on the left and I would've taken Obama over McCain any day, but there are quite a number of things he's done that I don't really agree with.

I've been called racist so many times that I can't even count them simply because I didn't vote for Obama.

[Eagle1]

my parents have been called racists several times (always by blacks) because they voted for McCain so yes it is used too much.

[Strength]

If every other race/ethnicity gets one, then we should have one to. If you disagree then you're just being racist.... completely unfair that we don't get one.

[Sage]

If every other race/ethnicity gets one, then we should have one to. If you disagree then you're just being racist.... completely unfair that we don't get one.

Minorities get one to spread awareness about their history and culture. Majorities don't need one because they already learn about their own history and culture in school.

[Bluearmy]

All ethnic history months are unnecessary and retarded. We should get rid of all of them. (Like that Morgan Freeman video too.)

Promotes racial pride in some, while making the rest feel left out. Nothing good can come from that. Why can't we look at the history of humanity for the accomplishments of us all as a whole?

[tripolar]

All ethnic history months are unnecessary and retarded. We should get rid of all of them. (Like that Morgan Freeman video too.)

Promotes racial pride in some, while making the rest feel left out. Nothing good can come from that. Why can't we look at the history of humanity for the accomplishments of us all as a whole?

Agreed totally.

[Rutherford The Brave]

You guys had white history year for hundreds of years why do you need a month now? My people don't even get a month >,>

[theOperaGhost]

You guys had white history year for hundreds of years why do you need a month now? My people don't even get a month >,>

Your people get my people's money every month.

[Whisper]

Your people get my people's money every month.
QFT

3.8million dollars is being spent to build an aboriginal gathering center and "sacred place" at my university
our library's to small
our labs are ill equipped
our parking is pathetic
our gym is outdated
our social science divisions are underfunded
etc....

so forgive me if i'm less than sympathetic

[Severus Snape]

The point is why does any race get any month to celebrate the color of their skin or features? Black History month in particular goes against the philosophy of Martin Luther King- not everyone is being treated equally based n race if we have entire months dedicated to only certain races. We also celebrated Hispanic History month in september or August I think. Its absolutely ridiculous. I refuse to acknowledge the existence of these stupid 'months' and when over the announcement somebody is giving me random facts about some famous black or hispanic person I just talk over them. I'm not racist. In fact, I am opposed to state sponsored racism, which is what this is.

Racism and preferential treatment exists in America, but it is directed at whites and the 'majority' now. My college application process has shown me that.

"Check this box if you are Hispanic"

"Check this box if you are African American and would like to be considered for xxxxx scholarship"

The pendulum is swinging violently the other direction.

[drumir93]

You guys had white history year for hundreds of years why do you need a month now? My people don't even get a month >,>

As far as I understand it, the overwhelming majority of people on here are saying they don't want a white-history month.
The way I see it, until we stop putting so much emphasis on "race" we will never have full equality. People of my skin tone don't deserve a special month and neither do people of yours. And besides, as far as I'm concerned I belong to the human race, and no other.

[Rutherford The Brave]

As far as I understand it, the overwhelming majority of people on here are saying they don't want a white-history month.
The way I see it, until we stop putting so much emphasis on "race" we will never have full equality. People of my skin tone don't deserve a special month and neither do people of yours. And besides, as far as I'm concerned I belong to the human race, and no other.

I'm not posing that as a question to the general public, I'm just questioning the general idea of a White history month.

[clone]

i hate racist i've seen so many succesful blacks, whites, hispanics, asians, europians, middle easterns, and many more.

my point is i see your color but think nothing of it i see a person that can be succesful and can choose not to be. there is WAY to many stereotypes in circulation.

[drewlink99]

Isn't every other month white history?

[drumir93]

Isn't every other month white history?

No. In what way does that make sense?

[Tiberius]

Minorities get one to spread awareness about their history and culture. Majorities don't need one because they already learn about their own history and culture in school.

I learn plenty about Black, Asian, Jewish, Islamic and many other cultures. In some cases, we learn more about those cultures than we do about our own in school. It's really quite pathetic that our culture is being surpressed by ones that aren't our own by "our own people." I, like Morgan Freeman, think that all this labeling and history month stuff is a load of shit. It shouldn't exist because we should all be part of the SAME culture; we are ALL AMERICANS(if you are a citizen of the U.S) and so we don't need all this bullshit. Why can't we just be Americans and not hyphenated Americans?
A portion of Teddy Roosevelt's Speech:
"There is no room in this country for hyphenated Americanism. When I refer to hyphenated Americans, I do not refer to naturalized Americans. Some of the very best Americans I have ever known were naturalized Americans, Americans born abroad. But a hyphenated American is not an American at all. This is just as true of the man who puts "native" before the hyphen as of the man who puts German or Irish or English or French before the hyphen. Americanism is a matter of the spirit and of the soul. Our allegiance must be purely to the United States. We must unsparingly condemn any man who holds any other allegiance. But if he is heartily and singly loyal to this Republic, then no matter where he was born, he is just as good an American as any one else.

P.S- Morgan Freeman's words of wisom:
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[Sage]

I learn plenty about Black, Asian, Jewish, Islamic and many other cultures. In some cases, we learn more about those cultures than we do about our own in school. It's really quite pathetic that our culture is being surpressed by ones that aren't our own by "our own people." I, like Morgan Freeman, think that all this labeling and history month stuff is a load of shit. It shouldn't exist because we should all be part of the SAME culture; we are ALL AMERICANS(if you are a citizen of the U.S) and so we don't need all this bullshit. Why can't we just be Americans and not hyphenated Americans?

I was just explaining why they exist. I never said I don't think they're stupid.

[TheKingDavis]

I would agree that we should also get a history month

[Bougainvillea]

Then I deserve an italian history month. And my dog deserves a special month, too.

[TheKingDavis]

Then I deserve an italian history month. And my dog deserves a special month, too.

:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes: completely not the same thing

[Bougainvillea]

And, why not?
*Crosses arms*

Are us hispanics inferior to whities? Because not one race needs a history month. We have the 4th of July. And it should be left at that.

[Whisper]

besides last time whitties had a special gathering time shit got a liiiiiittle outta hand
http://tennessee.unskkkk.com/KuKluxKlanHistory.jpg

....i blaim video games




the fact is diversity is a strength not a weakness
and it needs to be embraced wholeheartedly
being able to laugh
and know when to draw the line

when people stop EMPHASIZING it so much
it wont matter as much
its as simple as that

[tripolar]

P.S- Morgan Freeman's words of wisom:
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Thank you Morgan Freeman! Only if more people agreed with him.

[CaptainObvious]

I learn plenty about Black, Asian, Jewish, Islamic and many other cultures. In some cases, we learn more about those cultures than we do about our own in school. It's really quite pathetic that our culture is being surpressed by ones that aren't our own by "our own people." I, like Morgan Freeman, think that all this labeling and history month stuff is a load of shit. It shouldn't exist because we should all be part of the SAME culture; we are ALL AMERICANS(if you are a citizen of the U.S) and so we don't need all this bullshit. Why can't we just be Americans and not hyphenated Americans?

Because American history, until very recently, has been dominated by subjugation of blacks - among other minorities - to the extent that their historical narrative is in many ways very different from that of the rest of the population. This isn't rocket science.

Whether it deserves a separate named month is open to question. I think it certainly merits extra attention, and have no problem with the concept - as an Aryan-looking white guy my demographic group runs history, and I have no problem with attempting to defocus that emphasis. Why do you?

Get past the ever so middle school "but it's not equal and thus not fair!" argument. The treatment of black people has been disparate for centuries, its effects continue to in many ways structurally affect the opportunities and abilities of a significant portion of black Americans, and it's wildly myopic to think otherwise.

[punkjake]

i don't think there is any real need for any race month in my oppion,but I'm part,Hispanic,part Native,German,ect.so i don't have to worry XD you would think of me if you saw me as a white mexican(they exist!:P)or a german.

[that kid]

I don't believe we need a specific month dedicated to one and only one ethnicity. I've never heard of Asian heritage month or anything like that. My suggestion is this. I think we need a Historical Heritage month where we research our own ancestors and take pride in them together as a people instead of just setting aside months where only certain ethnicities take part.

I agree with this more than any of the others.

[drewlink99]

No. In what way does that make sense?

Because, we fill the rest of the calendar with us... It makes sense to me, but I could be wrong:yes:
But, I'm not an ass...

[JackOfClubs]

Why would whites need a history month? No need. All whites have done in history thats out of the ordinary is make it harder for other races.

[drumir93]

Because, we fill the rest of the calendar with us... It makes sense to me, but I could be wrong:yes:
But, I'm not an ass...

Well, I do see what you're saying but really the calender is filled with Holidays for those who have effected the nation the most. Since for so long most of the population was white it is mostly filled with Holidays that originate from Europe. In this increasingly diverse nation, though, I do expect that to change.

[Bougainvillea]

Why would whites need a history month? No need. All whites have done in history thats out of the ordinary is make it harder for other races.

This is a somewhat ignorant statement.

White people, along with many other "colors" have contributed to the welfare of this nation, and as I clearly stated before, absolutely none of us need a month to recognise, and connect with our culture. We have the power to do that at home, with our families. Where it matters most.

[drumir93]

Why would whites need a history month? No need. All whites have done in history thats out of the ordinary is make it harder for other races.

You mean like invent Democracy and the light bulb? Yeah, I see what you mean:rolleyes:

[The Batman]

It's funny if you say the same thing about Christianity no one defends it but Christians.

[drumir93]

^I'm an atheist and there's quite a few things I find defensible about Christianity. Basically everything but it's past violent and corrupt hijacking and the homophobia which actually originates from a very sensible place.
Oh, not to mention the whole "god" thing, forgot about that.

[The Batman]

Lol even though you just proved my point I really shouldn't have brought this thread off topic so let's get back on it.

[kolte]

People of African heritage in the United States constitute a minority.
In the United States we stress equality of all races.
Because of this principle, segregated representation of minority races is acceptable in this country.
Traditionally, Blacks have been ostracized and alienated by Whites.
To compensate for, or at least attend to, this embarrassing history, Blacks will, at least for the time being, be allotted privileges withheld from the majority.
The memories of tyranny are still alive in the hearts and minds of many black people.
If you feel the need to have a white history month, its likely that Caucasians will slip into minority status within the next twenty to fifty years.
I look forward to the day.

[JackOfClubs]

This is a somewhat ignorant statement.

White people, along with many other "colors" have contributed to the welfare of this nation, and as I clearly stated before, absolutely none of us need a month to recognise, and connect with our culture. We have the power to do that at home, with our families. Where it matters most.

You mean like invent Democracy and the light bulb? Yeah, I see what you mean:rolleyes:
Sorry, that was a bit harsh. I came out different than I thought.

I meant that we have, throughout history, oppressed other races, and made their lives harder. I know that whites have made advances in life, as have other races.

[Rutherford The Brave]

I honestly don't care, I mean I do get free tuition to state schools. I don't need a month XD.

[Kahn]

Alright. We have African, African American month, we Have Hispanic month, and we also ave Native American month.

Caucasians, or us, don't really need a white history month. We learn about our history every day because we were 1. Brutal, and conflicted many other races, but still won most conflicts. 2. Developed an education system first. 3. We were the first to colonize the America's. Not including Leif Ericson of course, (Whom of which skin color was Caucasian).

We learn about it in school, and even out of school. So why would we need to have a month in honor of ourselves? I know it may seem unfair to some that African Americans, or Native Americans, or Hispanics get months in honor to themselves, but do we really need it? I mean all through out middle school or grade school when you were in history class sitting there probably not paying attention what race did you hear about almost always? Caucasians. When we were learning about most wars which race was usually involved. Caucasians. What race were almost every single one of our presidents (For the U.S citizens). Caucasians. What race was Davanci? Caucasian.

The fact that some of us think we need a month to reflect on our history is just insane. It stares us right in the face everyday. Look at the columns on the White house. The Greek designed those. Bet some people thought they were just pretty. Guess what race the Greek were. Caucasian.

The reason all of the other cultures, or races get a history month is because they don't learn much about they're people. I am Native American and I happily celebrate Native American history month, but I am also Caucasian because of my European ancestors. They are less fortunate because the education system doesn't really open up to the topic of other races history until about high school, and from what I've heard it's usually what has happened recently, not they're history.

So my position on White history month is no. Let them have something without us interfering.

[daveywavey]

Very very well said Adam. I 100 % agree with you and I too am also part native American. Cherokee to be exact. Couldn't have said it better myself two thumbs up

[drumir93]

Alright. We have African, African American month, we Have Hispanic month, and we also ave Native American month.

Caucasians, or us, don't really need a white history month. We learn about our history every day because we were 1. Brutal, and conflicted many other races, but still won most conflicts. 2. Developed an education system first. 3. We were the first to colonize the America's. Not including Leif Ericson of course, (Whom of which skin color was Caucasian).


Who's we? I didn't take any part in that. Neither did anybody else here. Not to be offensive, but I think people like you are the problem. It's not we or them. It's us, as a collective human race that did these things, at least if you want to include the currently living.
In U.S. History classes, we learn U.S. History. Not white history.
Just because the people who formed this nation had light skin doesn't mean we learn about them for that reason at all.

[Rutherford The Brave]

Alright. We have African, African American month, we Have Hispanic month, and we also ave Native American month.

Caucasians, or us, don't really need a white history month. We learn about our history every day because we were 1. Brutal, and conflicted many other races, but still won most conflicts. 2. Developed an education system first. 3. We were the first to colonize the America's. Not including Leif Ericson of course, (Whom of which skin color was Caucasian).

We learn about it in school, and even out of school. So why would we need to have a month in honor of ourselves? I know it may seem unfair to some that African Americans, or Native Americans, or Hispanics get months in honor to themselves, but do we really need it? I mean all through out middle school or grade school when you were in history class sitting there probably not paying attention what race did you hear about almost always? Caucasians. When we were learning about most wars which race was usually involved. Caucasians. What race were almost every single one of our presidents (For the U.S citizens). Caucasians. What race was Davanci? Caucasian.

The fact that some of us think we need a month to reflect on our history is just insane. It stares us right in the face everyday. Look at the columns on the White house. The Greek designed those. Bet some people thought they were just pretty. Guess what race the Greek were. Caucasian.

The reason all of the other cultures, or races get a history month is because they don't learn much about they're people. I am Native American and I happily celebrate Native American history month, but I am also Caucasian because of my European ancestors. They are less fortunate because the education system doesn't really open up to the topic of other races history until about high school, and from what I've heard it's usually what has happened recently, not they're history.

So my position on White history month is no. Let them have something without us interfering.

I have to be blunt being 10% Native American doesn't mean you have the right do claim yourself as that. I mean if your parents are both black and come from african decent then you African. But along the way in history and your ancestor has sex with a Native American and then generations later your born doesn't mean your Native American. I think in order to be of a different race, you must have the distinctive characteristics (No Offense) and you should follow the culture and cultural things that group of people did. I celebrate the harvest, I have tokens like dream catchers, rings, amulets, and headdresses. That were all handed down through my family. The dreamcatcher above my bed is nearly 50 years old. I guess what I'm saying is. I agree with you, but don't think you can celebrate month designated for certain groups of people, when your blood is only a small portion of that race.

[The Batman]

I have to be blunt being 10% Native American doesn't mean you have the right do claim yourself as that. I mean if your parents are both black and come from african decent then you African. But along the way in history and your ancestor has sex with a Native American and then generations later your born doesn't mean your Native American. I think in order to be of a different race, you must have the distinctive characteristics (No Offense) and you should follow the culture and cultural things that group of people did. I celebrate the harvest, I have tokens like dream catchers, rings, amulets, and headdresses. That were all handed down through my family. The dreamcatcher above my bed is nearly 50 years old. I guess what I'm saying is. I agree with you, but don't think you can celebrate month designated for certain groups of people, when your blood is only a small portion of that race.

I disagree with that fully, if you have an ounce of blood from another race running through your veins then it does mean that you are apart of that culture and you should learn what you can about it and you should be able to celebrate it. You don't close off a race to only the pure bloods, that's what causes discrimination. Anyways idc about black history month i think that we needed it back when it started but we have grown past it now and it's more of a celebration of who you are thing.

[Rutherford The Brave]

I disagree with that fully, if you have an ounce of blood from another race running through your veins then it does mean that you are apart of that culture and you should learn what you can about it and you should be able to celebrate it. You don't close off a race to only the pure bloods, that's what causes discrimination. Anyways idc about black history month i think that we needed it back when it started but we have grown past it now and it's more of a celebration of who you are thing.

Thats not what I'm getting at though, like let's say your 45% Black right? Go right ahead your more than welcome to celebrate it. But if your less than 10% I don't see the point of you joining in on the festivities.

[The Batman]

To celebrate what makes you different and to celebrate that one culture has an influence in your life. To me Idc what race you are even if like your family isn't a part of it then you should celebrate it because we should celebrate each other and our differences. It should be less about the color of your skin and your heritage and more about learning and understanding the different cultures that make this world what it is today.

[Rutherford The Brave]

To celebrate what makes you different and to celebrate that one culture has an influence in your life. To me Idc what race you are even if like your family isn't a part of it then you should celebrate it because we should celebrate each other and our differences. It should be less about the color of your skin and your heritage and more about learning and understanding the different cultures that make this world what it is today.

Yeah I agree, I think the goal that these months should strive for. Is sharing cultures and learning about different ones, rather than celebrating the history and acheivements of a certain race.

[Kinetic]

well most people would agree you really don't need one...

i mean black history month is an important time for knowllege and for people to reflect with the past. same with hispanic, asian etc

its important to learn about other cultures, even if its not yours,

i mean even if you did have your own history day what would it be? "the day we hit america?"
they day we won a "battle at fort bla bla?"
"the day we enslaved blacks?"
"the day we moved the native americans off there land and made them walk across the country because we were selfish?"
lets not forget the day when we said all men are equal EXCEPT all men who arnt black, asian, mexican etc?
lets not even start on
"well because we're all white we are gonna change jesus to white too"
while in the bible he was clearly stated he was dark skinned


not saying white people screwed up history (kinda)
but at least let us have a holiday to appreciate and to teach others of the past?

[Bougainvillea]

while in the bible he was clearly stated he was dark skinned

Maybe in the Book of Yahweh.

[The Batman]

Let's not turn this into a religious battle...again

[theOperaGhost]

I have to disagree with Greg...mainly because there is likely VERY few people on this planet with "pure" blood. Nearly every race has been mixed together and every one of us has blood of every other race in us. Nobody is 100% anything anymore. I don't see what's wrong with being proud of someone's 10% native heritage....Also...I don't see where you got that he was 10% native...it appears he never said how much native was in him.

[Kahn]

I didn't even state that I was 10% Native American. I am about 30-40% and the fact that you are saying that I shouldn't celebrate my heritage even if I did have only 10% Cherokee in me is just rude. Thats like taking a part of life away from you. You should be able to celebrate your ancestry no matter how much of it you are.

I am proud to be Native. I have learned much of my Cherokee heritage from my Grandfather, He can speak Native Cherokee and I am trying to learn it. The fact that you would even come up with a percent of Native blood offends me. That is my right to know how much, and how little I have.

well most people would agree you really don't need one...

i mean black history month is an important time for knowllege and for people to reflect with the past. same with hispanic, asian etc

its important to learn about other cultures, even if its not yours,

i mean even if you did have your own history day what would it be? "the day we hit america?"
they day we won a "battle at fort bla bla?"
"the day we enslaved blacks?"
"the day we moved the native americans off there land and made them walk across the country because we were selfish?"
lets not forget the day when we said all men are equal EXCEPT all men who arnt black, asian, mexican etc?
lets not even start on
"well because we're all white we are gonna change jesus to white too"
while in the bible he was clearly stated he was dark skinned


not saying white people screwed up history (kinda)
but at least let us have a holiday to appreciate and to teach others of the past?

Sorry for double posting but this is what I was trying to get at when I posted that. Not trying to separate cultures, or exclude anyone. But they should have a month or even a day to themselves. It's unfair we have to have one when we learn about our heritage everyday.
Next time just use the edit button please Thank You ~Empty Misery

[daveywavey]

I have to be blunt being 10% Native American doesn't mean you have the right do claim yourself as that. I mean if your parents are both black and come from african decent then you African. But along the way in history and your ancestor has sex with a Native American and then generations later your born doesn't mean your Native American. I think in order to be of a different race, you must have the distinctive characteristics (No Offense) and you should follow the culture and cultural things that group of people did. I celebrate the harvest, I have tokens like dream catchers, rings, amulets, and headdresses. That were all handed down through my family. The dreamcatcher above my bed is nearly 50 years old. I guess what I'm saying is. I agree with you, but don't think you can celebrate month designated for certain groups of people, when your blood is only a small portion of that race.


That was the most ignorant response I've seen lol

[Kahn]

On another note, I have older things. My Great Grandfather was a Tribe leader, Chief if you want to call it that. I too have many tokens, dreamcatchers, and other old artifacts in my house. I have a hatchet that is over 100 years old.

[2D]

It's not a competition guys. Haha I'm 1/16 Cherokee and that's just enough to be counted as a legal Cherokee Tribe member. But the courthouse that had all my family's papers proving it burned down a long time ago. Sadness. So I can't really say I am. Admittedly though I don't really care. I don't know any customs or rituals and whatnot. I'm just white basically. But when it boils down to it, white people (myself included) don't need a month to celebrate all the bad and good stuff we've done.

[daveywavey]

I'm a teller of stories, I'm a singer of songs
I am Albert Namatjira, and I paint the ghostly gums
I am Clancy on his horse, I'm Ned Kelly on the run
I'm the one who waltzed Matilda, I am Australian.
I'm the hot wind from the desert, I'm the black soil of the plains
I'm the mountains and the valleys, I'm the drought and flooding rains
I am the rock, I am the sky, the rivers when they run
The spirit of this great land, I am Australian.
We are one but we are many
And from all the lands on earth we come,
we share a dream,
And sing with one voice,
I am, you are, we are Australian.

[The Batman]

I'm a teller of stories, I'm a singer of songs
I am Albert Namatjira, and I paint the ghostly gums
I am Clancy on his horse, I'm Ned Kelly on the run
I'm the one who waltzed Matilda, I am Australian.
I'm the hot wind from the desert, I'm the black soil of the plains
I'm the mountains and the valleys, I'm the drought and flooding rains
I am the rock, I am the sky, the rivers when they run
The spirit of this great land, I am Australian.
We are one but we are many
And from all the lands on earth we come,
we share a dream,
And sing with one voice,
I am, you are, we are Australian.
Nice song but how is it contributing to the topic?

[Rutherford The Brave]

I honestly don't know what to tell you. I was raised in this culture, my heritage is passed down nearly every generation is of this blood. Yet I don't see the point in it. I don't need a month, thats were I was judging. My whole family says we don't need a month. We don't need anything. We celebrate who we are as a people day in and day out. My personal opinion is that its a small triffle to give someone a month. Most people in America of a different race don't want a month, because they live the life and in the culture everyday. To me its a small token.

[The Batman]

Native Americans are given way more in this country than any other race so really a month wouldn't matter anyway.

[Rutherford The Brave]

Native Americans are given way more in this country than any other race so really a month wouldn't matter anyway.

True, I'd rather have free tuition to state schools then a month.

[Callwaiting]

The truth is that the less segregation, the better. Having black history month (just like Sorry Day here in Australia which is pretty much an oppertunity for aboriginals to complain about white people) just reminds everyone of the injustices of the past which are no longer relevant.

Having a white history month makes no sense because the very reason of a history month is to draw people together through knowledge. Everyone already knows white (not a race btw) history so having a month would just seem like we're trying to top them.

tl;dr history months are obsolete and work against their goal.

Also, does it annoy anyone else when other races believe whites have some debt to pay? Neither you nor I were alive then...

[Whisper]

Also, does it annoy anyone else when other races believe whites have some debt to pay?
yes.
as far as im concerned we owe nothing and have nothing to be sorry for

[theOperaGhost]

yes.
as far as im concerned we owe nothing and have nothing to be sorry for

Agreed. People need to stop living in the past. None of the white people living today owned slaves and none of the black people living today were slaves...we don't owe anything. Start living in the now because we can't do shit about the past...it's already happened.

[The Batman]

I've never met someone that seriously thought that white people owed them something if anything I heard jokes about it. In that time yea all the races affected by that time were owed something if it was nothing more than an apology also people from the "seperate but equal" times that faced racism, hatred, and other things that were negatively affecting them due to the governments lack of proper intervention are owed an apology for it. There have been some instances of the government officially apologizing.

[theOperaGhost]

I have met people that seriously though white people owed them something, Thomas. Unfortunately for them, I don't own them shit...the only people I owe anything to are my parents and my teachers.

[Whisper]

I have met people that seriously though white people owed them something, Thomas. Unfortunately for them, I don't own them shit...the only people I owe anything to are my parents and my teachers.

So have I and I agree

[boy.on.laptop]

The truth is that the less segregation, the better. Having black history month (just like Sorry Day here in Australia which is pretty much an oppertunity for aboriginals to complain about white people) just reminds everyone of the injustices of the past which are no longer relevant.

Rubbish. So Abroginal's income inequality, underfunded schools and lack of significant political representation compared to native people of other lands not injustice? Or is it just a consdensice that centuries of what can only be described as sub-human conditions has no effect on the current generation? Do you think people who were taken from their parents only 40 years ago don't still have pain today? Or that their children or their children's children do not share that pain?

I am no fan of Black History month or any other history month, but I do believe that there needs to be affirmative action in Australia to make up for the injustice of the past. Populist politics by that of John Howard and Pauline Hansen with little more than sending the army in to remove porngraphy and alcohol with no faliure standards have far from helped the situation.