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Hatsune Miku
October 13th, 2009, 06:36 PM
I don't get it. Im constantly hearing about 13-14 year olds smoking weed. Just the other day i was at my friends house, and he took out a bag and of course i said "What the hell is that?" and he said it was weed and smoked it. I know, Its not like its gonna kill you, but still. You could be one of the unlucky ones to get lung cancer :l If people think its "cool" to smoke weed. Well its not.

tyler_52
October 13th, 2009, 07:55 PM
its not cool its a medication that ppl take for stress releif and relaxation...
at least i dont think its cool... my proof ... i dont take it as a big deal i just do it ... i wont bring it up just to make myself look better, nobody really cares that young ppl smoke weed .. theres no diffrence then if you smoke it when your 18.

thedudeman
October 13th, 2009, 09:07 PM
stuff can be habit forming for some people though, im an ex marijuana addict, and now i smoke maybe once or twice a week, probably less then that
its pretty harmless stuff for most, if you could get the truth out of most your parents i bet you anything they smoked weed as teenagers

INFERNO
October 14th, 2009, 02:38 AM
its not cool its a medication that ppl take for stress releif and relaxation...
at least i dont think its cool... my proof ... i dont take it as a big deal i just do it ... i wont bring it up just to make myself look better, nobody really cares that young ppl smoke weed .. theres no diffrence then if you smoke it when your 18.

If you're going to call marijuana a medication since it relieves anxiety, then you might as well call tobacco, alcohol and such medications also. The only difference I see if you're 18 or older is a difference in the legal consequences and how others may perceive you, I don't see any difference regarding how the drug will affect you.

I think part of the reason teenagers smoke weed is that it's a fairly easy way to relax, socialize and it's sold by many dealers. Also, it may provide a way for people to feel unique by defying social norms in a way that at a superficial level, doesn't have many consequences. Ironically, research has shown that smoking marijuana is far worse than smoking cigarettes so it's not exactly as healthy as it's made out to be.

Sage
October 14th, 2009, 04:06 AM
If it feels good, people are doing it.

Biolink
October 14th, 2009, 12:03 PM
I don't get it. Im constantly hearing about 13-14 year olds smoking weed. Just the other day i was at my friends house, and he took out a bag and of course i said "What the hell is that?" and he said it was weed and smoked it. I know, Its not like its gonna kill you, but at least wait till your 18 or somewhere around that to try it. (Not trying to promote anything, Just saying. Less risky) You never know, You could be one of the unlucky ones to get lung cancer :l If people think its "cool" to smoke weed. Well its not. Smoking weed is just another cool stereotype.

I don't think its cool. I just "do" it. I started mainly for pain relief, after Lacrosse practice.

Also you getting lung cancer just from smoking weed is a myth. Not one case has ever been successfully linked to it, because most people don't smoke nearly as much weed as they do Cigarettes(That'd be stupid mainly because you need very little weed in most cases to get the desired results that you want). There's much less tar in weed than the average cigarette, and it actually opens up the lungs more, and helps prevent some lung diseases.

Educate yourself...

http://www.erowid.org/plants/cannabis/cannabis_health2.shtml

sebbie
October 14th, 2009, 02:04 PM
I don't think its cool. I just "do" it. I started mainly for pain relief, after Lacrosse practice.

Also you getting lung cancer just from smoking weed is a myth. Not one case has ever been successfully linked to it, because most people don't smoke nearly as much weed as they do Cigarettes(That'd be stupid mainly because you need very little weed in most cases to get the desired results that you want). There's much less tar in weed than the average cigarette, and it actually opens up the lungs more, and helps prevent some lung diseases.

Educate yourself...

http://www.erowid.org/plants/cannabis/cannabis_health2.shtml

Can marijuana cause cancer?

Marijuana smoke has been found to contain more cancer-causing agents than is found in tobacco smoke. Examination of human lung tissue that had been exposed to marijuana smoke over a long period of time in a laboratory showed cellular changes called metaplasia that are considered precancerous. In laboratory test, the tars from marijuana smoke have produced tumors when applied to animal skin. These studies suggest that it is likely that marijuana may cause cancer if used for a number of years.


Taken from the UK cancer research publication.

Biolink
October 14th, 2009, 06:15 PM
Taken from the UK cancer research publication.

Pretty much expected this response. For every article that is linked about it causing cancer, I can find probably 10 more links with tons of research that shows to the contrary. Most of the research being scientific and a small percent of the research being the dumber crowd that only wants it to be legalized so that they can get high, and then hang on to little scientific details like "glaucoma" even though they don't actually suffer from it and in general it has no relevancy to them.

There's so much research and debate now, that its still yet to be determined. Which is why I say, nobody has totally nailed it down yet.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/05/25/AR2006052501729.html

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2007/04/070417193338.htm

Not saying its completely healthy even though it has its benefits, because even if it does contain less tar and carcinogens than Cigarettes they ARE there. You ARE filling your lungs with smoke. Just that you'd seemingly have to smoke large quantities for a long amount of time for it to reach that point.

tyler_52
October 14th, 2009, 06:57 PM
are you sure .... ? do you really want to say that marjiuana is worse then cigarettes???
no one has ever gotten lung cancer from pot before .. and thell never.
but cigarettes actually spells lung cancer... so id not write 'reaserch shows' because i dont really think you know where that research comes from.. if i were you id specify where you got that information, cause its dead wrong

tyler_52
October 14th, 2009, 07:07 PM
i dont think theres tar in weed .. unless you put it there

mrmcdonaldduck
October 14th, 2009, 11:04 PM
they take marijuana because they think it will make them look cool, or they just want to try it out.

Delusion15
October 14th, 2009, 11:05 PM
Its availability is why kids smoke it. I can walk outside and i know four people who could sell me some right off the bat and i don't even smoke anymore.

Someone who wanted to try it would not have to look very hard believe me.

In my eyes i believe that we should teach kids in school about the truth of weed in the same way we teach about sex we can discourage them from trying it but since we all know they will do it teach them the facts about marijuana not those lies we were force fed in D.A.R.E. but also not the lies taught to us by are friends and siblings.

Biolink
October 14th, 2009, 11:26 PM
they take marijuana because they think it will make them look cool, or they just want to try it out.

There is some truth behind that. I first started up because I was always aching after tough Lacrosse practices. Some teammates always used to do it, so I said what the hell. A few times after practice turned into a ritual, where'd we do it, then go hang around the school or go downtown and mingle with people(Severely inebriated).

Its availability is why kids smoke it. I can walk outside and i know four people who could sell me some right off the bat and i don't even smoke anymore.

Someone who wanted to try it would not have to look very hard believe me.

In my eyes i believe that we should teach kids in school about the truth of weed in the same way we teach about sex we can discourage them from trying it but since we all know they will do it teach them the facts about marijuana not those lies we were force fed in D.A.R.E. but also not the lies taught to us by are friends and siblings.

D.A.R.E. :yawn:


I do agree though, that its accessibility makes it very tempting. I wouldn't doubt if in every metropolitan city, on every street block in the city, you could find somebody that sold marijuana, or at the least could lead you in the right direction.

As far as it being a gateway drug. There probably is some truth behind that as well. Wasn't so much in search of a "bigger" high, so much as curiosity.

They really need to start properly educating these kids, but it'll never happen in this generation

puke
October 15th, 2009, 02:52 PM
To be honest i passive smoke it, and its bound to be as bad/worse than Cigarette smoking, because you put Tobacco in it before you roll it..

-Ryan

tyler_52
October 15th, 2009, 03:01 PM
i dont

Biolink
October 15th, 2009, 03:34 PM
To be honest i passive smoke it, and its bound to be as bad/worse than Cigarette smoking, because you put Tobacco in it before you roll it..

-Ryan

Ummm no you don't.

You only use tobacco if you don't have enough marijuana to even out the joint or blunt. IIRC cigarillo based products like White owl and swisher sweets, use tobacco based paper to hold the tobacco in it. However there are alternatives that you can use to bypass using any Tobacco based products like vaporizers or water pipes. Zig-Zag papers are exactly that. They don't use any tobacco in making the paper.

Fiending_the_freedom
October 19th, 2009, 10:44 PM
I don't get it. Im constantly hearing about 13-14 year olds smoking weed. Just the other day i was at my friends house, and he took out a bag and of course i said "What the hell is that?" and he said it was weed and smoked it. I know, Its not like its gonna kill you, but at least wait till your 18 or somewhere around that to try it. (Not trying to promote anything, Just saying. Less risky) You never know, You could be one of the unlucky ones to get lung cancer :l If people think its "cool" to smoke weed. Well its not. Smoking weed is just another cool stereotype.


i dont think smoking weed is "cool", i just like it, its different for everyone, some people it disrupts their life, for me, it helps with my anxiety and adhd, and doesn't affect my life in a negitive way.

weed doesn't cause lung cancer, there has never been one case. The only difference with waiting until you are 18 to smoke it is that there has been evidence that if you have schizophrania (i know i spelt it wrong) then if you smoke weed before your body fully mature then it will make the schizo-ness show earlier. But only if you already have it, it does not cause it.

Dane97
October 20th, 2009, 07:35 PM
Its bad.

DarkWingedAngel
October 20th, 2009, 07:45 PM
only reason that I smoke it is because it makes me happy
I didn't start because of friends and I didn't start because I thoght it was cool
I only do it because it makes me happy



and im pretty sure thats why alot of us teens do it

Hatsune Miku
October 20th, 2009, 11:18 PM
So, Everybody against me on this?

I mean, wanna get high? Go sniff a sharpie for like 5 minutes, or stand outside a gas station (Kidding)

Lily of the Valley
October 21st, 2009, 09:55 PM
only reason that I smoke it is because it makes me happy
I didn't start because of friends and I didn't start because I thoght it was cool
I only do it because it makes me happy



and im pretty sure thats why alot of us teens do itSame here. I've only done it a few times, but I could more. I even have some that I'm saving for a rainy day. It's relaxing.

And you know what? This whole weed is bad thing is ridiculous. Sure, it's not the greatest thing you can do for your body, but neither is fucking McDonald's.

~Maggot

Fiending_the_freedom
October 22nd, 2009, 05:41 PM
its not that people are against you, its more people who are smoking weed for very social or medical reasons just letting you know that it works for some people.

You see even that sarcastic comment about the sharpie and gas station you don't realize that those two things are worse for you if you were to use them to get high than marijuana.

allovergood
October 25th, 2009, 12:02 AM
i only smoke because i feel so better and i cant stop laughing.

deadpie
October 25th, 2009, 04:16 PM
I've never seen a problem with weed really. I hate that there's people that go to my recovery school and their there just for weed, or when i go to some na group and there's kids their just for weed. It's not as big as a deal as most people think.
Alcohol is somehow legal, even though it's allot worse than weed at times.

I think teenagers are looking for a way to block out stress or show off. The group of friends i hung out that did it had rough childhood's and it helps them, then there's the people that do it so they can get attention.
I'm not recommending people to do it though because it is illegal for now, and i'm not going to go explaining medical reasons its used for because i know some people will say it's true while the others will call bullshit.

clone
October 31st, 2009, 10:42 PM
first, D.A.R.E. SUCKS!!!
now more important it's not bad in my opinion just relieves stress

ZzKingz
November 2nd, 2009, 01:29 AM
Popularity is SO overrated!

Fiending_the_freedom
November 2nd, 2009, 10:30 PM
who said anything about popularity?

Lily of the Valley
November 2nd, 2009, 10:53 PM
who said anything about popularity?People think it has something to do with popularity because that's what anti-weed adults seem to think. You know, all the anti-weed commercials and shit always going on about how IT'S TOTALLY NOT COOL. Um, no one said it was, people. It's just FUN.

But people assume anyone kids do is only to be cool, not because they actually enjoy it. I guess it's because it helps to make it look like the kid is the victim, not the 'bad guy' - which all pot smokers are, of course. :rolleyes:

~Maggot

sebbie
November 3rd, 2009, 11:52 AM
People think it has something to do with popularity because that's what anti-weed adults seem to think. You know, all the anti-weed commercials and shit always going on about how IT'S TOTALLY NOT COOL. Um, no one said it was, people. It's just FUN.

~Maggot

This is an interesting point, about advertisement, I read an article a while back (I will try link it later if I can find it) Saying how the UK anti drug organisations were changing their approaches.

The basic point of the article was saying how current methods of attacking a drugs popularity are not working that they should edge towards showing the dangers,side effects and negative effects in a fair view. Summary of education about drugs rather than demonising them

Shortly after the article the website http://www.talktofrank.co.uk was launched based around the above idea. Do you think this is a more successful approach?

Fiending_the_freedom
November 4th, 2009, 08:11 PM
No. not at all. this is worse in fact because they're tellign kids that when they smoke weed you get pukey, panic attacks and parinoid. You get parinoid because its ilegal, i get parinoid when i ride my bike on the sidewalk (its ilegal here). about 5% get pukey and this only happens when you smoke too much and i have anxiety disorder and i used it to stop my panic attacks. they also said it makes you see things, which is obviously not true since it is not a hallucinagetic.

Lily of the Valley
November 4th, 2009, 08:58 PM
No. not at all. this is worse in fact because they're tellign kids that when they smoke weed you get pukey, panic attacks and parinoid. You get parinoid because its ilegal, i get parinoid when i ride my bike on the sidewalk (its ilegal here). about 5% get pukey and this only happens when you smoke too much and i have anxiety disorder and i used it to stop my panic attacks. they also said it makes you see things, which is obviously not true since it is not a hallucinagetic.Yeah, I looked at the weed part and I was like, wtf. That's bullshit.

So no, lies aren't really any better than demonising it.

~Maggot

Aves
November 11th, 2009, 10:18 AM
I just don't want to either fuck up my life, body, or get in trouble with the cops. I don't know, I'm just a pretty straight edge kid I guess. Honestly I've just never seen the point. My cousin told me when asked him the point, all he said was "...to get high". Seriously I mean, give me 5 GOOD reasons to smoke weed (good luck with that), and then I'll even think about starting.

Truth
November 11th, 2009, 10:59 PM
Why? Because it's not that illegal in some places (where I live you can use a bong and smoke it and it's not illegal if you don't have more than 5 ounces or grams), because of how widely it's used, friends, and peer pressure, or they just want to. That's why.

thisqboy4u
November 12th, 2009, 05:56 PM
I don't smoke. I don't think it's right.

Toilet Water.
November 14th, 2009, 09:17 PM
I just don't want to either fuck up my life, body, or get in trouble with the cops. I don't know, I'm just a pretty straight edge kid I guess. Honestly I've just never seen the point. My cousin told me when asked him the point, all he said was "...to get high". Seriously I mean, give me 5 GOOD reasons to smoke weed (good luck with that), and then I'll even think about starting.

1.) great feeling.
2.) Makes all food taste better.
3.) allows me to watch and/or listen to things and actually enjoy doing so.
4.) It's like being in a cartoon sometimes (depending on who I pick off of).
5.) To get fucking HIIIIIIGH.

hahh, don't need to start smoking though - even if my reasons are AMAZING (and we both know, they are;] )

Fiending_the_freedom
November 15th, 2009, 08:26 PM
i'll have to admit, those are really horrible reasons in my opinion.

You shouldn't be asking for reasons and then say "then i'll consider it" smoke weed if YOU want to, not because a list of reasons people tell you.

Everyones different, everyone smokes weed for different reasons.

Mine are that it helps my anxiety, my appitite, my adhd and its a much better anti depressant than any medication i've ever used.

MacMilker
November 15th, 2009, 08:38 PM
what i dont understand is uhh where do they get it???

Hatsune Miku
November 16th, 2009, 12:17 AM
even if my reasons are AMAZING (and we both know, they are;] )

No, their not. Actually

natey
November 16th, 2009, 12:53 AM
I smoke weed because I have chronic migranes D:

Fiending_the_freedom
November 17th, 2009, 10:11 AM
what i dont understand is uhh where do they get it???

Its quite easy, in Toronto where I live a lot fo my friends grow their own plants in their backyards and almost everyone i know has sold week themselves at one point or another.

goldbiospark
December 4th, 2009, 01:05 AM
I smoke weed because I have chronic migranes D:
can you actually legally get a prescription written out because of chronic migranes?

sebbie
December 4th, 2009, 01:25 PM
what i dont understand is uhh where do they get it???

From a drug dealer of course. Unless you are getting it via legal means eg. Coffee shops in Amsterdam, prescribed for medical reasons.

sweetmisery
December 4th, 2009, 03:40 PM
Wow..I haven't heard of teens smoking weed but it's probably the area i'm in.

Zazu
December 5th, 2009, 02:42 PM
I think the main reason as to why a lot of young people smoke it is because it's illegal.

Something illegal = immediate appeal imo.

Whilst I would agree with the controlled legalisation of it, I don't think anyone under the age of 18 should (be allowed to) smoke it.

Hatsune Miku
December 10th, 2009, 05:34 PM
Weed is so old. All the cool kids are doing smack now. Turn up the music and pass the needle! ( I'm kidding )

Something illegal = immediate appeal imo.

That could be it. I've seen people steal stuff like pencils from the store before. And im thinkg " You stole 1 dollar worth of pencils...? " So it makes sense

2D
December 10th, 2009, 06:47 PM
Because they like it. It feels good. And it's really not bad for you. (They=me) I think everyone should try it at some point in their life. It's not going to kill you or anything. Hahaha But, everything in moderation. I stopped for a bit because my friends were smoking their paychecks away. On 420 they smoked 3 quads. It was just absurd. As for the illegal part of it. Just because something is illegal doesn't mean it's appealing. Murdering is illegal, rape is illegal, many things are illegal that people don't do.

Whoever steals pencils is either a complete moron, or is in poverty. I steal stuff occasionally, but not pencils, what an idiot. The moral of the story is, we smoke because we like it, we steal because we're stupid, (mostly) and it doesn't really matter.

Wow..I haven't heard of teens smoking weed but it's probably the area i'm in.

Where the fuck do you live???

thedudeman
December 11th, 2009, 03:26 AM
marijuana is what i like to call the balancer, it balances out your mood, it makes goin to your shitty job easier, goin to the store an adventure, it turns shit to shine
i know many ex heroin users who need it to survive, because of what the heroin did to their mind marijuana works as a balncer, it restores a good feeling and it stops the cravings(or at least helps), marijuana isnt all bad, but it can be very damaging to some, i say use it medically

INFERNO
December 11th, 2009, 03:49 AM
As for the illegal part of it. Just because something is illegal doesn't mean it's appealing. Murdering is illegal, rape is illegal, many things are illegal that people don't do.

The differences between smoking weed and killing is that not only is killing something that people have to morally and ethically choose to do (just to make the analogy with weed), it also has much more severe consequences. Some people may some weed because it's not too harmful and it doesn't harm someone else. With rape and murder, you have to intentionally decide to violate someone to such a degree and the moral conflicts are much greater.


Whoever steals pencils is either a complete moron, or is in poverty. I steal stuff occasionally, but not pencils, what an idiot.

:lol: :lol:


The moral of the story is, we smoke because we like it, we steal because we're stupid, (mostly) and it doesn't really matter.

What do you mean by it doesn't matter?

zackF.
December 15th, 2009, 07:09 PM
Just so you know, you can not get lung cancer from smoking marijuana. There have been NO deaths related to the use of marijuana. There are also studies that suggest marijuana can prevent cancer (head and neck) or keep it from growing (prostate). I am not saying go and smoke weed. But I am saying that it poses little physical threat.