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annalea
September 10th, 2009, 12:54 PM
Apparently the mayan calendar has been right about everything.. now it says that the world goes bye-bye in 2012.. they made a movie and all that stuff

Who believes this??

I dont. My parents said that everybody said the world would end a bunch of times in the past.. and look at that.. we are still here.

Does anybody have different theories?
just a general discussion :yes:

JackOfClubs
September 10th, 2009, 02:25 PM
Nothing is going to happen, everyone thought the wold was going to end in 2000, but did it? No.

Silverfist64
September 10th, 2009, 02:44 PM
Apparently the mayan calendar has been right about everything.. now it says that the world goes bye-bye in 2012.. they made a movie and all that stuff

The mayan calender ends. That is why there is speculation as why the world will end. But what do you do when our calender reaches december and then ends? ...You flip it over and start over again. And just because they make a move about it doesnt mean it is at all true. Did you hear about the Institute of Human Continueity? They are making a lottery to win a space in an underground bunker. Reminds me of Fallout 3. Apparently they didnt get the memo that if the world does end from solar radiation that it will penetrate 100 miles into earths crust. Us humans have barely dug past 1 mile.

Perseus
September 10th, 2009, 02:51 PM
I don't believe "the world wil end." Sure, something could happen in 2012, like some huge hurricane wiping out most of Louisiana or Southern Mississippi, but will it happen? I doubt it. The Mayans ended their calendar, doesn't mean that they think the world will asplode in 2012. There are numerous crackpot theories floatin' around, like Nibiru. I'm waiting suspensley for December 21, 2012 jsut so I can luagh at the people who are like, "ZOMG, da world is gona end!"

Aηdy
September 10th, 2009, 02:52 PM
there have been so many times "the world is going to end" its all a load of bullcrap!

Hyper
September 10th, 2009, 02:56 PM
Jesus H Christ this oozy river of crap again..

First we had 2000.. Then 06 06 06 then 08 08 08 and just today 09 09 09....

And every time there was some idiot sitting in a bomb shelter proclaiming the end of the world while eating military rations while wearing a baseball cap or meditating to reincarnate as a king..

Yes the only one of the end of the world proclamations that is a bit interesting is 2012..

But what everybody fails to even consider is that the end of the calendar or even the world for the Mayans or wasn't it the Inchas ( or however you spell it in English ) calendar.. Anyway for them it might not necessarily mean armageddon and everyone physically dying.. It could mean the end of an age; mentally or in some other way..

The point really is what the hell did they consider to be the end of the world.. I think if we all died of a cataclysm on this planet the world would still go on.. But if we were all to become slave traders and wife beaters the end of the world would be here for me..

If you are getting anything I'm saying::::I'm just thinking that the end of the world doesn't necessarily have to be rains of fire or climatic doom..

vito22andolini
September 10th, 2009, 07:49 PM
We will not end just because a calendar say so , when we will vanish , its because we'll have killed ourselves while fighting against each other

Bougainvillea
September 10th, 2009, 08:20 PM
I suggest everyone watches "An Inconvenient truth"

Zephyr
September 11th, 2009, 03:43 AM
The Mayan calendar apocalypse theory is a huge misconception.
It' does not mean that the world will end.
To put it into parsimony, this is what the Mayans meant:
This current age will end,
And we're supposed to enter a 'Golden Age',
After we come to realize some spectacular thing.
It's supposed to be some huge transition for the human race.
For a fuller explanation:
http://www.adishakti.org/mayan_end_times_prophecy_12-21-2012.htm

mrmcdonaldduck
September 11th, 2009, 05:13 AM
the mayans said there calendar ended then, they didnt say anything else. i think that nothing will happen, like 2000. something might, but really who cares?

Sage
September 11th, 2009, 09:30 AM
The Mayan calendar apocalypse theory is a huge misconception.
It' does not mean that the world will end.
To put it into parsimony, this is what the Mayans meant:
This current age will end,
And we're supposed to enter a 'Golden Age',
After we come to realize some spectacular thing.
It's supposed to be some huge transition for the human race.
For a fuller explanation:
http://www.adishakti.org/mayan_end_times_prophecy_12-21-2012.htm

That'd actually be something to look forward to.

Giles
September 11th, 2009, 09:48 AM
1 word. bullshit.

Zosomac
September 11th, 2009, 12:01 PM
I suggest everyone watches "An Inconvenient truth"

because we all know Al Gore is SUPER SERIOUS this time :P

as for 2012, its for sure going to be the end of something, not necessarily the physical world. Perhaps it will also mark the beginning of something new? As we know, for every end, there is a beginning.

Camazotz
September 11th, 2009, 08:03 PM
No, the world will not come to an end on December 21, 2012. There are no scientific claims to support this theory. Just like everyone has said, the Mayan calender ends on this date, but this doesn't prove an apocalypse. I doubt anything significant will happen on this day.

Iron Man
September 11th, 2009, 08:51 PM
i dont, look wat happened to the mayans. cant really believe them

Bougainvillea
September 11th, 2009, 08:52 PM
i dont, look wat happened to the mayans. cant really believe them

Yeah. I'm pretty sure they didn't see that one coming. :P

INFERNO
September 11th, 2009, 10:50 PM
I have a prediction concerning Dec. 12, 2012, the supposed day that the world ends. The prediction goes as follows: the day will go on, similar to most other days, some people will be more hyped up but regardless, good things will happen and bad things will happen. In the news and the people who believe in the date, will associate the bad things with the date. There will probably also be a bunch of movies on TV concerning the end of the world just to fit in with the whole atmosphere. But, after the day, people will see that the world still exists, it hasn't ended, sure some people probably died as they do on every day but the world will keep spinning. Afterward, someone else will step up to the plate and give another date concerning the end of the world.

Bougainvillea
September 11th, 2009, 10:56 PM
Yeah. It'll be like when the Swine Flu outbreak happened.

Zephyr
September 12th, 2009, 05:59 AM
Yeah. I'm pretty sure they didn't see that one coming. :P

Funny you both say that.
If you read the article from the website I posted,
You'd see that they predicted the coming of the Europeans 17 years before it happened.

Rutherford The Brave
September 12th, 2009, 06:32 AM
We'll see, I personally havent got a care for it but if it happens ill be suprised.

scuba steve
September 12th, 2009, 09:26 AM
bullshit really. people have been saying crap like this for years and put it this way when the spanish invaded and the soldiers dismounted their horses they thought they where demons splitting in two and their civilisation just magically disapeared off the face of the earth.... The Mayans where whackos. People said the world would end at the new millenium too and their theory was much more believable and of course the 6th June 2006 incident (06.06.06)

Bougainvillea
September 12th, 2009, 11:00 AM
Funny you both say that.
If you read the article from the website I posted,
You'd see that they predicted the coming of the Europeans 17 years before it happened.

-.-

You know what?



Okay :P

ShatteredWings
September 12th, 2009, 12:06 PM
bullshit really. people have been saying crap like this for years and put it this way when the spanish invaded and the soldiers dismounted their horses they thought they where demons splitting in two and their civilisation just magically disapeared off the face of the earth.
The hell?
All the advanced south american civilazations dissapared because the conquisadors (spaniards) infected them with old world diseases.

They didn't think the spaniards were deamons...

Triceratops
September 12th, 2009, 12:17 PM
I believe the world will end when we're least expecting it.
So many false predications have already been made regarding when the world was apparently supposed to end. What makes you so sure this time is for real?

I can guarantee that when we're still living and breathing way past the claimed "end of the world" date, God will have the last laugh at all those telling themselves that their theories are somewhat of a more profound level of knowledge than a higher and much more powerful being has.

drumir93
September 12th, 2009, 05:01 PM
Life will stop existing on Earth when the sun begins to enter its red giant stage in about 5 billion years. We will be swollowed up and Earth will be obliterated. That being said, it's very possible that by that point we will have already left Earth in preperation of such an event and settled on some other distant planet, yet to be discovered.

And the Mayan calander works in a cycle, after 2012 it just restarts at the beginning.

scuba steve
September 12th, 2009, 09:12 PM
The hell?
All the advanced south american civilazations dissapared because the conquisadors (spaniards) infected them with old world diseases.

They didn't think the spaniards were deamons...

the Mayans went into declining during the 8th and the 9th centuries and reasons are still unknown... Yes the civilisation was still there but in no way the same state as it was before by the time the Spanish had arrived. But it was the Spanish that finally put the nail in the cross of an already dying off civilisation
Oh and yes certain civilisations (like the aztecs) did think the Spanish where demons when they first landed as they had never seen steel armour or horses before and others thought it was there doomsday god signalling the end of the world

Bougainvillea
September 12th, 2009, 09:18 PM
Life will stop existing on Earth when the sun begins to enter its red giant stage in about 5 billion years. We will be swollowed up and Earth will be obliterated. That being said, it's very possible that by that point we will have already left Earth in preperation of such an event and settled on some other distant planet, yet to be discovered.

And the Mayan calander works in a cycle, after 2012 it just restarts at the beginning.

But I don't have to worry about that because I'll be dead.
I'm glad.

CrashingWaves
September 12th, 2009, 10:11 PM
I think if the world were to end it wouldn't happen in one day it would just be some leader getting greedy and power happy and than all of us getting killed by some nuclear war or something. Or we'll kill our enviorment and then everything will go ...

tommycg95
September 12th, 2009, 10:34 PM
you know maybe the mayans just got tired and decided to stop. Or maybe they had to stop because they disappeared and all that stuff

The Joker
September 13th, 2009, 12:51 AM
Wow, OK, I'm one of those really paranoid people who believe it every time. When they said it was gonna end in 08, I looked out the window and the sky was reddish, and I was crying thinking I was going to die.

This thread makes me feel safe. :P

Bougainvillea
September 13th, 2009, 12:53 AM
Wow, OK, I'm one of those really paranoid people who believe it every time. When they said it was gonna end in 08, I looked out the window and the sky was reddish, and I was crying thinking I was going to die.

I did the exact same thing.

sabin22
September 13th, 2009, 03:57 AM
i think something will happen, just not the end of the world....

Church
September 13th, 2009, 01:10 PM
Nothing is going to happen, if anything will happen it will probably be some natural disaster in South America, cause that was only the world the Mayans knew about.

MyNameIsJack
September 13th, 2009, 02:53 PM
We're going to be fine. :) Try not to think about that, we don't know if it's true or not, just live your life happy..

Jean Poutine
September 13th, 2009, 03:47 PM
I like to imagine it as follows :

Mayan : "alright...I'm almost done carving half of december 2012 in this calendar-rock..."
Spaniard : "hey you! The fuck you think you're doing? Fucking pagan! *cuts mayan's head off*"

It's probably just that they didn't have time finishing it before gold-hungry Spanish conquistadores landed and killed the bunch of them.

overcome.
September 13th, 2009, 04:27 PM
The world is just like Hulk Hogan, it's immortal and will keep going on forever. Except the world isn't going bald and doesn't have man boobs.

scuba steve
September 13th, 2009, 05:50 PM
I did the exact same thing.

Why did people think the world was gonna end in 08?

MichaelxMortified
September 14th, 2009, 12:17 AM
Okay guys, heres what I thinkk.
I thinkk that the worldd wontt come to an endd, but our way of thininkingg will. Our conciousness will be alteredd to a muchh more peaceful, modest, andd pleasantt state. Personally, it kinda scares me but im justt gonna acceptt it. If thats the way its meantt to be, so be itt. It actually seems really good, to livee in perfectt harmony likee that. But im justt scared that i will neverr see my lovedd ones againn, and its a very scary thought of starting over completly.

RaeNose
September 14th, 2009, 12:31 AM
Nothing is going to happen, if anything will happen it will probably be some natural disaster in South America, cause that was only the world the Mayans knew about.

Um... I'd like to correct that. The Mayans had a great astrological calendar and knew more about the cosmos than we can truly fathom for an ancient civilization.

scuba steve
September 14th, 2009, 03:06 PM
Um... I'd like to correct that. The Mayans had a great astrological calendar and knew more about the cosmos than we can truly fathom for an ancient civilization.

yea but still compared to today it would be moderate at best :lol:

RaeNose
September 14th, 2009, 07:51 PM
True, but it's a heck of a lot better than what Western Europe had at the time.

Zero Beat
September 15th, 2009, 01:11 AM
*face palm* We are all doomed... ...

...

Wow. Some people will belive anything ;)

scuba steve
September 15th, 2009, 04:45 PM
True, but it's a heck of a lot better than what Western Europe had at the time.

They wern't really ancient either they where still there until they where wiped out in the 13th centuary through spanish conquest

RaeNose
September 15th, 2009, 06:05 PM
Haha, okok.
So, "ancient" isn't the best phrase. But they were there for a heck of a long time before they were wiped out.

scuba steve
September 16th, 2009, 06:31 PM
hehe internet forums..... there's always that one guy to bite your ass

HelloWorld123456
September 19th, 2009, 07:47 AM
If I were you I'd take a look at this guys ... more fearful than 2012 ... =/ tell me what you think ...

http://www.endoftheworld2012.net/morefearfulthan2012.htm

Triceratops
September 19th, 2009, 11:07 AM
If I were you I'd take a look at this guys ... more fearful than 2012 ... =/ tell me what you think ...

http://www.endoftheworld2012.net/morefearfulthan2012.htm

As a Christian, I am fully aware of this.
It doesn't scare me one bit because I know I'm a part of those who have luckily been saved.
I really don't think this is the right way to encourage faith onto other people though.
You should speak of God in a more positive light if you want to bring others towards Christianity.

Shalom
September 19th, 2009, 11:11 AM
It won't be ending, we still have years to live!!! I don't believe crap like this, same with 06-06-06 everyone thought something would happen.

deadpie
September 19th, 2009, 10:22 PM
Myans never said the world was gonna end on 2012. Thats just when that calender ended. Y'all should be watching Penn and teller: bullshit. Get yo' facts straight.


I'd like the world to end soon. It'd be funny to see all these sad excuses for "humans" screaming. I've had dreams of the apoclypse allot and i'm like sitting on a lawn chair with a cigar and my mouth as people are burning and stuff.

ackmedsgirl666
September 19th, 2009, 10:25 PM
i don't believe in it
its a bunch of bullshit
the only thing i believe in is godd
and theres no damn way he woukd do that

BuryYourFlame
September 20th, 2009, 04:22 AM
Firstly...it says very clearly that no human will ever know when the world is going to end, that knowledge is only for God, not even Jesus knows.

Secondly...come on...after Y2K, 6/6/06 (and many other events)...people are still believing these theories? I still say that those who try to predict the end of the world are just plain stupid.

Also...I fully agree with Marcie, the fear approach is among the worst ways of trying to 'convert' someone. This can be seen with extremist groups all over the world. Very often people are approached by a group etc. and if they do not renounce their own faith and say that their captor's faith is true, then they are killed. The thing is...what is this really doing except giving a very very bad impression of the extremist's faith...they cannot know if their captor has fully renounces their faith so it is rather useless.

Sugaree
September 20th, 2009, 06:00 AM
Apparently the mayan calendar has been right about everything.. now it says that the world goes bye-bye in 2012.. they made a movie and all that stuff

<sarcasm>Wow, they made a movie. It must be true then!</sarcasm>

It has been long thought that the Myans could predict the coming of ages and many happens in the world. Apparently, December 21st, 2012 is when mankind will reach it's final doom. The Myan calendar ends on that date, but what is your explination on the fact that it may have just ended then and started over with January 1st. What happens when December 31st rolls around for us? We just start all over again. That is how it will continue until the world does come to an end. Just because they made a movie called "2012", you can't take it as the set in stone truth. So what? There have been many based around Apocolyptic-esque plots; for example, "I Am Legend" was about the last human on Earth who wasn't affected by a deadly virus. Also, take "The Last Man On Earth", sort of like "I Am Legend" but a bit different in it's own way.

When I first heard about the Myan doomsday prophesy, I automatically knew that the world won't end that day. It's a gut feeling. I swear to God on my life, that I will be outside all day on 12/21/2012 and see if anything happens. If not, then I'll die of laughter. You also must remember all the dates that people said the world would end: 6-6-06, 7-7-07, 8-8-08 and recently 9-9-09. But from my viewpoint, this is our world. We control it's destiny the way we see fit. God gave us the Earth for us. We must do with it what He would expect us to do with it. Of course, not many people believe in God, but that's for another thread.

Bottom line: Don't believe everything you hear. Live your life day by day and what ever happens, happens. The world will not end on 12/21/2012. It may end tomorrow, it could end next week, next month, next year, decade or century. We'll never know. But when our time is up, game over.

EDIT:

i don't believe in it
its a bunch of bullshit
the only thing i believe in is godd
and theres no damn way he woukd do that

Oh, I think he would. If He created the Earth, He most certainly can take it out. As I stated, He created the Earth for us. He wanted us to treat it fairly. From what I see, we aren't. Not by a long shot. We have soiled the Earth into something it should have never become. If I were God and I had looked down upon my creation, I would say, "What a waste of time." and would simply move on. It's like a book report or a composition. You review it and take out the parts you don't like and improve upon it. But this is something different. This is life and death. If I were God, I would see no problems destorying this Earth, but then again, I'm not that kind of person. Just think about it all for a few minutes and you'll see what I'm getting at

Aves
September 20th, 2009, 08:12 PM
If the world ends, it does, if not, just another conspiracy theory.

Sugaree
September 21st, 2009, 07:25 PM
How can you relate it to a conspiracy theory? A conspiracy theory doesn't seem to fit this situation.

bluestarkidd
September 23rd, 2009, 02:56 AM
With the issues in the world economy and how the U.S. played a major role in the downturn. I will be surprised if we make it past 2011....lol... At times I really wonder if we will.

Sage
September 23rd, 2009, 03:24 AM
With the issues in the world economy and how the U.S. played a major role in the downturn.

You think this is bad? Do you know nothing of the Great Depression?

Severus Snape
September 23rd, 2009, 05:40 AM
I choose not to believe in the apocalyptic texts of a backward civilization. Belief in the 2012 theory is similar to belief in Nostradamus. It sounds vague enough to be true, and we can now make connections that make it seem possible these ancient writings are in fact prophetic. Although I think pop culture blows this stuff way out of proportion.

Modus Operandi
September 23rd, 2009, 11:59 AM
I see no evidence the world will end in 2012.

Sugaree
September 23rd, 2009, 02:47 PM
With the issues in the world economy and how the U.S. played a major role in the downturn..

I agree with Tim. Do you know nothing of the Great Depression? For where our economy is at the moment, it is NOTHING compared to the Depression. But if we DID enter another Depression, it would be almost ten times worse. Look at our situation: We're STILL at war, work is happening on a third "stimulus" package, we're facing a deficit of over $1 trillion, we're trying to reform healthcare....we can't handle it all. If another depression comes along, it would devastate this country to oblivion.

Sage
September 23rd, 2009, 08:29 PM
If another depression comes along, it would devastate this country to oblivion.

I'm among the most optimistic of any people I know, and I feel that if anything is going to be the end of the world, it's going to be a slow, painful economic hell.

kenoloor
September 25th, 2009, 11:00 PM
I like to imagine it as follows :

Mayan : "alright...I'm almost done carving half of december 2012 in this calendar-rock..."
Spaniard : "hey you! The fuck you think you're doing? Fucking pagan! *cuts mayan's head off*"

It's probably just that they didn't have time finishing it before gold-hungry Spanish conquistadores landed and killed the bunch of them.

The world is just like Hulk Hogan, it's immortal and will keep going on forever. Except the world isn't going bald and doesn't have man boobs.

Wow. These posts are both hilarious.

But aside from that....I do not believe that the world will end on 12/21/2012. Even if it does, why the hell should I waste my life away worrying about it? If the world is going to end, so be it. We won't be able to do ANYTHING, except stand and watch. So why worry over stuff you can't control?

useitorloseit69
October 4th, 2009, 09:17 PM
im just getting completely trashed on that day so if something does happen i dont feel it

Sage
October 4th, 2009, 09:33 PM
im just getting completely trashed on that day so if something does happen i dont feel it

Ramblings of the Wise. Day by day I feel this title is losing relevance.

Kahn
October 5th, 2009, 12:13 AM
The Mayans were one of the most intelligent Native American empires there was. They had astrology, astronomy, religion, language, and full fledged cities. I don't think that they can predict Human Holocaust. Although tensions are tightening in global nuclear affairs I don't believe anything will happen. Our world's leaders are hopefully smart enough to stop from using Nuclear Warheads.

Another fact about the calender you must take into consideration is that the calendar ends in December of 2012. Maybe that is when America falls from power? I mean it is predicted to also be an age of change. Obama will either be re-elected or there will be a new president. It could be. The Mayans even predicted Hitler's rise to power. (I love World War 2 any questions or discussion on it just PM me about it. I know everything about it). They are intelligent but they cannot predict the outcome of the current world. It is not based on legends, and myths. We will live long and prosper long.

Sage
October 5th, 2009, 12:47 AM
We will live long and prosper long.

http://choicenews.files.wordpress.com/2009/06/live-long-and-prosper.jpg

Kahn
October 5th, 2009, 07:38 AM
That actually makes sense lol.

escape
October 5th, 2009, 09:04 PM
You know what? 2012 is a bunch of bulllllshittttt. I just can't wait until that day so I can laugh at the people who thought it would end. hahaha!!

Furby
October 9th, 2009, 07:54 AM
Apparently the mayan calendar has been right about everything.. now it says that the world goes bye-bye in 2012.. they made a movie and all that stuff

Who believes this??

I dont. My parents said that everybody said the world would end a bunch of times in the past.. and look at that.. we are still here.

Does anybody have different theories?
just a general discussion :yes:

yes it was supposed to like 3 times already but in december 2012 there will be a triple elipcse take ur pick there was 2 different storys the sun, the moon and the Earth will all go into allingment moving in the same direction with the moon in front of the sun and it will take severl years for this to resolve itself oh did i mention it will be frezzing cold??? However there is a much more gruesome ending....The Sun, The Earth, and The Milky way will all go into allinment meaning it will be even colder than the last one...Did I forget to mention how big the milky way is??? ITS A WHOLE OTHER GALAXY. I forget which one but one of these has been proved with science...u should be able to look it up...

Rainstorm
October 9th, 2009, 09:19 AM
Apparently, in December of 2012, all 8 planets in the Solar System are supposed to line up, which will possibly cause a great change in pressure due to all of the gravitation pull of the planets being in the same area.


Though, I don't believe the world will end in 2012, but in about 250 years. We are using up all of our resources so quickly, that we will bring the end of the world ourselves. The resources will become so limited that we will be fighting amongst ourselves for things like food, tearing the world apart.

Xenomi
October 9th, 2009, 12:07 PM
ugh!!

1) ok, so i dont think the world will because the bible and torah clearly say certain things have to happen before the world can end.

2) the mayan calender ends, its doesnt say the earth is destroyed

3) i think that something is going to happen 2012 but nothing that will destroy the earth and wipe out civilization. there will probably be some sort of natural disaster or group of natural disasters, but they wont destroy the earth

Sage
October 9th, 2009, 06:13 PM
1) ok, so i dont think the world will because the bible and torah clearly say certain things have to happen before the world can end.

Genius, you trade one superstition for another.

2) the mayan calender ends, its doesnt say the earth is destroyed

That's a good point that's been said many times already.

3) i think that something is going to happen 2012 but nothing that will destroy the earth and wipe out civilization. there will probably be some sort of natural disaster or group of natural disasters, but they wont destroy the earth

Why? Natural disasters happen all the time.

Xenomi
October 9th, 2009, 11:29 PM
Why? Natural disasters happen all the time.


its something to do with the sun, the amount of energy it gives off will be far greater around that time (or something like that), and that will affect out weather

im not an expert about it, but im pretty sure that is what i read

Sage
October 10th, 2009, 02:56 AM
its something to do with the sun, the amount of energy it gives off will be far greater around that time (or something like that), and that will affect out weather

im not an expert about it, but im pretty sure that is what i read

Wheeeere did you read that?

mrmcdonaldduck
October 10th, 2009, 09:50 PM
ok let me just say, 2012 IS A BUNCH OF BULLSHIT!!

Sugaree
October 10th, 2009, 09:53 PM
im just getting completely trashed on that day so if something does happen i dont feel it

You know what? 2012 is a bunch of bulllllshittttt. I just can't wait until that day so I can laugh at the people who thought it would end. hahaha!!

ok let me just say, 2012 IS A BUNCH OF BULLSHIT!!

*doublefacepalm*

Is it me, or is there a lack of seriousness in most debate threads in this forum? For once, I'd like to read a post that presents arguments against the idea that the world will end on 12-21-2012. I have yet to see an interesting post. Since when do these "debates" consist of "All of that is bullshit"?

escape
October 10th, 2009, 10:23 PM
haha, Im sorry but it is bullshit.

scuba steve
October 10th, 2009, 10:56 PM
you know the game Fallout 3 follows closely the line of points that are all being presented in this forum. The resource wars, scarcety of food and whatnot, it's pretty fun

Sugaree
October 10th, 2009, 11:17 PM
haha, Im sorry but it is bullshit.

That may be, but you aren't giving any details that prove your point.

OneManArmy
October 10th, 2009, 11:54 PM
no, it won't happen. Y2K did that happen? NO! All those bogus excuses throughout history saying the world was gonna end on blah blah blah didn't happen, holy crap big surprise!! And they couldn't go on making the calendar last a million years, they eventually ran out of space. Since they ran out of space on a rock doesn't mean the worlds gonna end.

Sugaree
October 11th, 2009, 12:17 AM
eventually ran out of space. Since they ran out of space on a rock doesn't mean the worlds gonna end.

But then again, we don't know if they engraved more to the calendar on another rock which might have been destroyed or lost. The Mayans were extremely superstitous people and there are still many mysteries surrounding them. We know so much about them but we're just scratching the surface of an even greater civilization that just disappeared.

annalea
October 11th, 2009, 08:32 PM
these things are never accurate.. i doubt anything is gunna happen that day.. but still.. in the back of my mind there is still like a little *omg* feeling. :p

alex95
October 11th, 2009, 11:20 PM
im still going back to where i was born in 2012 so if it is true im dying where i was born :)

MykeSoBe
October 11th, 2009, 11:52 PM
no, it won't happen. Y2K did that happen? NO! All those bogus excuses throughout history saying the world was gonna end on blah blah blah didn't happen, holy crap big surprise!! And they couldn't go on making the calendar last a million years, they eventually ran out of space. Since they ran out of space on a rock doesn't mean the worlds gonna end.

I thought Y2K had to do with Jesus! But now, to my dismay, I found out it was just a huge computer bug because computers didn't know what to do once it was the year 2000.

Kahn
October 12th, 2009, 12:01 AM
Omg.... Like my post said.. which most of the info I got from links on google lol so it might be iffy, there has been so many "The world is going to end" predictions that some people dont care anymore.

Sugaree
October 12th, 2009, 01:02 AM
I thought Y2K had to do with Jesus! But now, to my dismay, I found out it was just a huge computer bug because computers didn't know what to do once it was the year 2000.

The only reason that computers didn't know what to do once it it was 2000 was the last two digits of the year. So in 1999, there were so many preperations for it. Everyone thought that if the computers dating systems went from 12/31/99 to 01/01/00, that it would malfunction and it would cause a huge catastrophe. Obviously, we all know the outcome. So much for all those people who spent that New Year's Eve in a fallout shelter ;)

The Joker
October 12th, 2009, 01:33 AM
haha, Im sorry but it is bullshit.

You're proving his point by not giving one yourself.

Bluearmy
October 12th, 2009, 11:21 AM
It is possible that the world could end in 2012. I only say that because humanity now has the power to destroy itself at any time; not because an ancient civilization said so.

Stewart
October 12th, 2009, 11:38 AM
Yeeeaaahhh, I don't think anything is going to happen although I could be wrong

Singer43ver02
October 12th, 2009, 02:29 PM
Apparently the mayan calendar has been right about everything.. now it says that the world goes bye-bye in 2012.. they made a movie and all that stuff

Who believes this??

I dont. My parents said that everybody said the world would end a bunch of times in the past.. and look at that.. we are still here.

Does anybody have different theories?
just a general discussion :yes:
Many people say the same thing the world is going to end soon my thought why are we still here.

MykeSoBe
October 12th, 2009, 10:57 PM
Well the thing is so many cultures have predicted the world will end on the same year and even on the same day .. the date, I guess, is 21 December 2012 .. as a precaution I won't go to school that day, in the case that it isn't on Winter Break already. I'll sleep downstairs by my grandma the night of that day. I personally doubt that it'll happen, but that's because no catastophęs are happening around the USA .. yet, anyways ... I would study it a little more though ... you never know.

Sage
October 12th, 2009, 11:02 PM
Well the thing is so many cultures have predicted the world will end on the same year and even on the same day .. the date, I guess, is 21 December 2012 .. as a precaution I won't go to school that day, in the case that it isn't on Winter Break already. I'll sleep downstairs by my grandma the night of that day. I personally doubt that it'll happen, but that's because no catastophęs are happening around the USA .. yet, anyways ... I would study it a little more though ... you never know.

I'd love to take the opportunity to skip school myself, actually. Thanks for the idea!

Kahn
October 13th, 2009, 05:50 PM
I used to be scared. I still am a little bit because of... well ya know, we don't know for sure yet. There are endless possibilities.

Hatsune Miku
October 14th, 2009, 09:29 PM
The worlds not going to end in 2012. . . In billions of years when the sun burns up, yes. But we'll all probably be dead by then anyways :l

jhxm
October 16th, 2009, 01:32 AM
the whole deal is completely BS.. Even on the front page of yahoo, it was saying how all the mayans completely disregard this myth.. if you read up on it, you will find out its a complete hoax.. Everybody just needs to be prepared for the suicide cults. Im sure their will be a few in 2012

Contra
October 16th, 2009, 11:33 AM
I think there are different possible things that could happen in 2012, or nothing at all. There are assumptions that say people will face positive physical or spiritual transformations, some say there will be the apocalypse, others claim there will only be some cataclysmic events, but the world doesn't necessarily has to come to an end.

Whether there is a disaster that will kill us all in 2012 or not, maybe global warming will kill us, if that doesn't happen either, then we'll just have to wait for the Sun to explode. Anywhoo, we'll all die.

Cheerful post. Woohoo.

mrmcdonaldduck
October 17th, 2009, 05:48 AM
i have accepted that humans will die out sometime, but not 2012.

Bougainvillea
October 17th, 2009, 06:58 AM
Okay, seeing as how none of us know, I'm not going to deny it until that day.

I'm sure something's going to happen by that time though.

guacamole24
October 17th, 2009, 08:01 AM
Always with the repeating numbers signifying the day that the world ends... who comes up with this stuff?
Anyway, I agree that 2012 may be the start of a new era in time, possibly beneficial, contrary to most peoples' beliefs. People just always assume the worst... darn you Discovery Channel lol.

Suicune
October 25th, 2009, 11:14 AM
Ok so... what I don't get is this: If it turn December 21st let's say England...the other parts of the world are still on December 20th....so...how would that work?

Suicune
October 25th, 2009, 11:15 AM
Always with the repeating numbers signifying the day that the world ends... who comes up with this stuff?
Anyway, I agree that 2012 may be the start of a new era in time, possibly beneficial, contrary to most peoples' beliefs. People just always assume the worst... darn you Discovery Channel lol.

Although I do beleive I heard the age of Aquarius starts, don't know if that means anything..

bluestarkidd
October 25th, 2009, 02:35 PM
2012? With the way things are today. I wonder if we will make it to the end of 2010.

Brandon.
October 25th, 2009, 04:13 PM
2012? With the way things are today. I wonder if we will make it to the end of 2010.


That is so true.

TheTruth
October 25th, 2009, 06:04 PM
Hmph, People who say "they said it was gonna end in 2000, but look we're still here" or something along those lines... IT DOES NOT MEAN THE WORLD ISN'T GOING TO END - whether someone predicts a date or not. My point is, No-one can judge the future whether its based on scientific facts or not because it just simply can not be predicted. If you do not know something then anything can happen for all you know aliens can come from across the universe and turn us into a labour force. Yes, sounds stupid doesn't it but you can't say it won't happen. There's nothing to say it can't. SO, for those still following what im saying, the world could end, but right now it's impossible to know when.

Sugaree
October 25th, 2009, 07:33 PM
Hmph, People who say "they said it was gonna end in 2000, but look we're still here" or something along those lines... IT DOES NOT MEAN THE WORLD ISN'T GOING TO END - whether someone predicts a date or not.

Well said. I too have seen these posts. People said the world would end in 2000. Obviousy it didn't. Now they say it will end in 2012. We'll just have to wait. I personally find it to be nonsense in the fact that you CAN'T predict the end of the world. Will the world end? Yes, at some point it will. Can we predict as to when it will end? No, we can't.

For example: If I were to say, "There will be another terrorist attack in New York City on the tenth anniversary of 9/11", you can't prove it. Why? It's a simple prediction. If I were to present good enough facts, then I won't be shot down. If I don't, then I will be shot down.

You can't predict things like this unless you have the information needed. Saying that the Mayan calendar ends on that date means the world will end isn't anything new.

2012? With the way things are today. I wonder if we will make it to the end of 2010.

Why does that matter? What signifigance does this give? I'll agree, in the way the world is heading, we may soon meet some type of demise. But, as I said above, you can't predict these things on the basis that it's nearly impossible to.

CaptainObvious
October 29th, 2009, 12:23 AM
Why does that matter? What signifigance does this give? I'll agree, in the way the world is heading, we may soon meet some type of demise. But, as I said above, you can't predict these things on the basis that it's nearly impossible to.

He's making a joke about the financial crisis, lighten up.

Sugaree
October 29th, 2009, 12:24 AM
He's making a joke about the financial crisis, lighten up.

Even if he IS, it doesn't help out with the debate. Joking during debates does not progress anything.

Sage
October 29th, 2009, 10:25 PM
2012? With the way things are today. I wonder if we will make it to the end of 2010.

Please elaborate on "the way things are today".

Bougainvillea
October 30th, 2009, 12:10 AM
Lucy, why you are asking that is beyond me.

Obviously the economical decline will continue. And once the world does "end", it probably won't be in the way we expected. And maybe 2012 will be the beginning of a new era of depression.

Sage
October 30th, 2009, 02:38 AM
Lucy, why you are asking that is beyond me.

Obviously it's beyond you if you just believe the loudmouths who've convinced this generation that the world is falling apart. I want an elaboration as to why the world is in a worse state now than ever before and why things are supposedly only going to get worse. In fact, I'm just going to start a new thread over this, we're getting off topic.

Triceratops
October 30th, 2009, 09:20 AM
Even if he IS, it doesn't help out with the debate. Joking during debates does not progress anything.

Jeeze, chill.
If they're actually stating their views on the topic, then it doesn't matter if they're choosing to make a slight joke every now and then.

CaptainObvious
October 30th, 2009, 01:35 PM
Even if he IS, it doesn't help out with the debate. Joking during debates does not progress anything.

Ah yes, because obviously we're making incredibly important earthshaking societal progress here by arguing about this on the internet. Woe beset me for my failure to recognize the incredibly central importance of being UBERSERIOUS!!1!11!!!1 in here.

Like I said, lighten up.

Obviously the economical decline will continue. And once the world does "end", it probably won't be in the way we expected. And maybe 2012 will be the beginning of a new era of depression.

Now that just doesn't make a lot of sense. If the economic decline continues (seems unlikely past a year or two), 2012 will be past the beginning of a new depression.

Contra
October 30th, 2009, 04:54 PM
Aren't we supposed to be talking about the assumptions of what's going to happen in 2012?

Ghoti
October 31st, 2009, 10:35 AM
A great guess, but I believe in God and he says no one will be able to predict the end.

Sage
October 31st, 2009, 05:48 PM
A great guess, but I believe in God and he says no one will be able to predict the end.

I predict the end will come at an unpredictable time. Did I just outsmart God?

Hyper
October 31st, 2009, 09:49 PM
I predict the end will come at an unpredictable time. Did I just outsmart God?

Nah just made a yourself look like an ass, just a bit :P

drewlink99
November 7th, 2009, 06:17 PM
I believe, that soooooo many people believe so, that we will subconsciously cause something to happen. Not the end of the world, but something very bad.

Black or White
November 7th, 2009, 07:16 PM
I dont believe in the world ending then no. I believe it will end either by what we do to the planet or by some very large asteroid hitting us and wiping us out. I dont think either will happen whilst I am alive.

Sugaree
November 10th, 2009, 07:23 PM
I dont think either will happen whilst I am alive.

Now you can't always say that. I reiterate my point: The world could end tomorrow, next week, next month, next year, next decade, or next century. Predicting the end of the world will get us no where. Saying that you won't be alive for the end of this world can not be fully proven.

The Joker
November 10th, 2009, 11:06 PM
Hi everybody. (http://ca.news.yahoo.com/s/afp/091109/oddities/entertainment_film_us_space_offbeat)

whatup
November 11th, 2009, 10:40 PM
the mayan calamder ends cause the ran out of stone / got tired of making a calander for the future

bluestarkidd
November 12th, 2009, 01:54 AM
I believe, that soooooo many people believe so, that we will subconsciously cause something to happen. Not the end of the world, but something very bad.

Exactly just like a "Self fulfilling prophecy"...if you can make enough people believe we are going to run out of food, they will storm the grocery stores and buy everything, then of course we will have run out of food.

Captain, thanks for your help...and yea I was making a joke of the financial collapse..and what I said 2 weeks ago about us not making it till the end of 2010 was obviously a joke.

In my opinion I think the "end of the world" has already begun. And we are in the middle of the process. When I say "end of the world", I mean in terms of being environmentally able to support human life. It's plain and obvious with the . Many scientists have proven a lot of diseases, viruses, and bacteria we have in the world today were caused from toxic wastes such as PCB's ..and chemicals set into the environment years ago.

Where was ADHD, ADD, Asthma, Autism 20 years ago?

Face it, man has been a horrible steward of this planet (particularly here in the U.S), our drive stems from infinite selfish economic gain. However, we don't live in an infinite world, we live here on earth. What is the end result of us eating meat that was produced using injected hormones? Did they test it in a real lab for 100 years? What is the result of taking the swine flu vaccine? What is the end result of dumping millions of waste into the ocean as if it will disappear? We really don't know the result of anything we have done, yet we live as if the problem is gone and corrected. However, the results we are finding does not paint a pretty picture. It seems like whenever we try to fix something we wind up 20 years later with bigger problems.

I hope I am wrong, but I could realistically see a majority of the human race gone within 30 - 40 years...

Bougainvillea
November 12th, 2009, 01:57 AM
Where was ADHD, ADD, Asthma, Autism 20 years ago?

Plenty of these illnesses have been around for a very long time. It was until recent times that they have been properly diagnosed.

Sugaree
November 12th, 2009, 02:11 AM
Face it, man has been a horrible steward of this planet (particularly here in the U.S)

And I suppose that Beijing is just playing second fiddle to the U.S. right? Large parts of the sea near Beijing can't hold life. The citizens of the city don't see the sun. Children die from various disease which were spread by the bacteria in the air. Just face it. Beijing has pretty much outdone this entire country when it comes to pollution.

However, we can not put the blame on others. We have done our fair share of polluting. But we aren't doing it in excess anymore. Consider our Industrial Era. Factories are being opened, job positions filled, etc. It was all good towards our economy. We didn't know that the smoke that the factories had produced would greatly effect our atmosphere. But with large automobiles, such as buses, shipping trucks, and construction equipment, the emmisions are causing just as much damage, or even more, that the factories did!

Disease and viruses have been with the human race since the beginning of time. Without proper medical authorities, the earliest of us had seen those who were ill with ADD or ADHD as being insane or even possessed. But once a significant amount of people decided to find a logical explination for these problems, they were able to be diagnosed. Now we're making advancements, whether they be short or long, towards the potential cures for these diseases.

bluestarkidd
November 12th, 2009, 12:24 PM
I highly doubt Beijing would be such a disaster if it weren't for the consumption of the U.S. We have become nothing but a consumer based society. We have taken all of our post industrial wealth and spent it. Now we rely on lines of credit from Beijing and other countries just to keep the lights on here.

I just wonder with all this "technology" will we be able to escape the earth being uninhabitable for humans? and how will that work if it even will... Shyt, today we can't even have the price of oil drop without mass panic and a war.

The Joker
November 12th, 2009, 10:07 PM
Hi everybody. (http://ca.news.yahoo.com/s/afp/091109/oddities/entertainment_film_us_space_offbeat)

I guess no one read this?

NASA says the world will not end in 2012.

lilhellboii
November 12th, 2009, 10:41 PM
the maya calendar ends! everyone thinks that is the end of the world because it ends... like u say, the maya calendar is right about everything that had predict, but idk if 2012 is going to be the end of the world... i dont think so. they say that the S pole and the N pole is going to switch but some say that is imposible... anyways idk what to believe now!! soo confuse but i dont think we are going to end by then

lilhellboii
November 12th, 2009, 10:41 PM
by the way the movie is something that they think is going to happen... nothing true!!

Sugaree
November 12th, 2009, 11:07 PM
by the way the movie is something that they think is going to happen... nothing true!!

Well of course it isn't. It's just a movie. Movies are forms of entertainment, not prophesy makers. People are dumb enough to believe it though.

Techno Monster
November 12th, 2009, 11:14 PM
Okay, I'm going to put in my two cents here.
In my opinion, it is a mistranslation, it is not the end of days it is the end of an age, in other words we are going through a transition from one age to another. For example, we are in the Pisces age and in 2012 we will be moving on to Aquarius.
The Mayan calender has to end, all calenders end. I don't believe for a second that the world is going to end, and if I'm wrong, and it does, the darn, it does. I feel that it is kind of ridiculous that people are worrying and spazzing out over something that they can't control and that they have absolutely no power over.
Live everyday to it's fullest, cliche I know, but everybody just needs to chill out.
I mean, there is genocide, starvation, and war going on right now. Stop living in the future, and focus on now.

Commander Thor
November 12th, 2009, 11:32 PM
It's actually a common misconception that the Mayan calender 'ends' on December 21, 2012, it in fact, does not. Dec 21, 2012 marks the end of a cycle of the Long Count.
The Mayan were obsessed in finding the cycles in everything, from the lunar cycles, to the weather cycles, to the solar cycles, and the venus cycles. The Long Count is simply another one of their cycles that is set to start over on Dec 21, 2012. Each cycle of the Long Count is known as a b'ak'tun, we're currently in the 13th b'ak'tun, Dec 21, 2012 marks the end of the 13th b'ak'tun and the start of the 14th b'ak'tun, not the end of the world. ;)

Aves
November 12th, 2009, 11:37 PM
Okay, I'm going to put in my two cents here.
In my opinion, it is a mistranslation, it is not the end of days it is the end of an age, in other words we are going through a transition from one age to another. For example, we are in the Pisces age and in 2012 we will be moving on to Aquarius.
The Mayan calender has to end, all calenders end. I don't believe for a second that the world is going to end, and if I'm wrong, and it does, the darn, it does. I feel that it is kind of ridiculous that people are worrying and spazzing out over something that they can't control and that they have absolutely no power over.
Live everyday to it's fullest, cliche I know, but everybody just needs to chill out.
I mean, there is genocide, starvation, and war going on right now. Stop living in the future, and focus on now.

+1 rep for being right on. :)

What she said :D

Stevo 69
November 13th, 2009, 06:08 AM
I've just been doing some research on this and there are a series of videos on youtube about The Lost Books of Nostradamus, it says he had visions of an appocolypse. He was born under a 13th sign Zodiac called Ophiuchas, also known as the Dark Rift, this Zodiac is the central point of the galaxy. It is at this point that our sun and solar system, apparently, moves into this part of the universe.

Wether it's true remains to be seen

The Joker
November 14th, 2009, 04:31 PM
Does anyone have anything to say on what I posted?

Commander Thor
November 15th, 2009, 02:31 AM
Does anyone have anything to say on what I posted?

For NASA to think that they have every inch of the sky covered and have the ability to see every Earthly threat is crazy. They simply can't.

There, happy now? :P

The Joker
November 17th, 2009, 12:11 AM
Somewhat. :P

Considering they are the biggest space organization in the world, I think they are right. They have been monitoring the universe for years!

Sugaree
November 17th, 2009, 01:18 AM
Somewhat. :P

Considering they are the biggest space organization in the world, I think they are right. They have been monitoring the universe for years!

That may be true, but that doesn't mean that they will be able to predict that the world WON'T end on December 21st, 2012. Yes, NASA is a reliable source for information on the universe, but I have my doubts here.

Commander Thor
November 19th, 2009, 10:46 PM
Hmm.
Also consider, that NASA themselves, have admitted to not even being close to tracking 1/4 of the predicted 'trackable' objects in the solar system (Don't cite me on that, I read it a while ago).

The Ninja
November 21st, 2009, 01:02 PM
if any of you watch dan brown on youtube he did something about this awhile ago, just like he said i think the myans just stopped because they were board and figured they wouldnt even be alive hundreds of years later

Tyler16
November 25th, 2009, 10:08 AM
that was such a good movie

Sugaree
November 27th, 2009, 12:51 AM
if any of you watch dan brown on youtube he did something about this awhile ago, just like he said i think the myans just stopped because they were board and figured they wouldnt even be alive hundreds of years later

Well, maybe they did see some type of imminent doom in their society. Maybe the date of December 21st is the day that the last of them died. We may never know. They all disappeared for no reason.

that was such a good movie

Yeah, that's nice. Now can we relate to the topic?

Aspiringanonymous
November 29th, 2009, 02:28 PM
The Mayans did not disappear. They are still around, just a few million of them, more or less living in the same area as their ancient ancestors once built their civilization. Most of them do not adhere much significance to the 2012 date.

The start and duration of this calendar can be traced to the spiritual/mythological beliefs of the Maya. We have no solid evidence of what precisely the prophetic meaning of the end date was, if anything at all. The lack of such evidence allows for all this ridiculous speculation about an apocalypse, shifting in spiritual consciousness, and whatever else has been popping up as of late.

As previously mentioned somewhere, they were a very "superstitious" people. That should say a lot. The date marked the end of what they called the Fourth Creation. A very important date in their own spiritual beliefs.

All in all I think we do need to recognize the fact that modern science is still quite limited in the understanding of their civilization.

I saw this in the article posted on the first page. If there are links to reliable, decent evidence which support these claims, I would be more than happy to take a look.

5. The Mayans also say that by 2012

we will have gone beyond technology as we know it.
we will have gone beyond time and money.
we will have entered the fifth dimension after passing through the fourth dimension
Planet Earth and the Solar System will come into galactic synchronization with the rest of the Universe.
Our DNA will be "upgraded" (or reprogrammed) from the centre of our galaxy. (Hunab Ku)
Everybody on this planet is mutating. Some are more conscious of it than others. But everyone is doing it.

Blank
December 13th, 2009, 12:44 AM
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! THE WORLD IS ABOUT TO END!
MUM DAD I LOVE YOU

FRIEND A, B, C, D, E, F, G, H, I, J........X, Y, Z
I WILL ALWAYS REMEMBER YOU

BOOHOO
SOB HIC

*the next day*

heh.. forget i said that

Schizothemia
December 13th, 2009, 12:57 AM
I really do not think the world is going to end. The Mayans were a great civilization, that is true. However I don't think they meant the coming destruction of the world, more as the end of the world as we know it (Which, is something I thought long before I knew about the Fourth Creation, etc.)

However, the one thing that does have my interest is the increased solar flare activity. Now, I know it isn't anything to be concerned with because solar flares have always occurred and its nothing to stress over, however the predicted figures for the solar activity by the time we reach December of 2012, is said to be able to essentially switch the Earths poles. Now I'm not entirely sure if this is something that is just an exaggeration or not, but it is something to think about.

Commander Thor
December 13th, 2009, 01:57 AM
Hope you people like to read..... http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread517834/pg1

Ghosthustler
December 13th, 2009, 06:24 PM
Information for those who are ignorant. (http://astrobiology.nasa.gov/ask-an-astrobiologist/intro/nibiru-and-doomsday-2012-questions-and-answers)
/thread

It's almost obligatory to have this link bookmarked for all the "2012!111!11" threads on forums recently.

Perseus
December 13th, 2009, 07:20 PM
Information for those who are ignorant. (http://astrobiology.nasa.gov/ask-an-astrobiologist/intro/nibiru-and-doomsday-2012-questions-and-answers)
/thread

It's almost obligatory to have this linked bookmarked for all the "2012!111!11" threads on forums recently.

I've always thought that the whole Nibiru thing was kinda cool, to be honest.
I've never believed it, but it is a really cool idea, in all honesty..

Kahn
December 13th, 2009, 10:02 PM
Many of the living Maya do not even mention the date. In an interview I remember hearing a translator of the Mayan taking the interview say that the Mayan "Knows there is no certain significance to the date."

Though not many alive there are probably less Mayan that believe in the superstitious date. The day will go by and people will probably be scared as hell. It is a scary thought to think about. One cannot just push it out of their head. I think something as catastrophic as that would be to hard too. I cannot wait for the day to pass. It will show who is right and who is wrong.

I think the end of the calendar shows the end of an era. Such as, the fall of America maybe? We have economic decline, we are at war with 2 separate countries on an impossible man hunt. I know we will fall in our life time. Hopefully later, than sooner. But the fall of America is inevitable. Nazi Germany fell. The Holy Roman Empire fell. Alexander the Greats Greek Empire fell. The Egyptian's fell. It is just a matter of time. History repeats itself.

Aspiringanonymous
December 14th, 2009, 02:25 AM
The end of an era according to ancient myths. Any significance found here can only really be attributed to followers of these beliefs, which modern civilizations are not.

I really doubt that there will be mass panic as this controversial date approaches. Especially with Hollywood's new movie popularizing the concept, it seems that a trend of '2012-debunkers' has been springing up, and the population of the ignorant gradually shrinking.

ChaoticHarmony
December 14th, 2009, 09:44 PM
nawwwww. lol. they keep tellin us this stuff and i dont really believe it.
altho it'd be creepy if it does. n id be pissed cause i spent my whole life in this world in school.......damn.

Aspiringanonymous
December 14th, 2009, 10:48 PM
id be pissed cause i spent my whole life in this world in school.......damn.
Oh, yes. I've seen that group/page on Facebook. Plus a multitude of other ridiculous ones such as "On 21/12/2012 I'm not going to do my homework, excuse is I thought I'd die"... good heavens. And they're all so damn popular.

I tried making a group advocating a more serious, factual approach to understanding the date. Of course, it didn't get very far.

Even if some significant change is due to occur, it's not going to happen, whatever it is (and very unlikely an apocalypse) according to various theories, all in a few days.

Kahn
December 14th, 2009, 10:59 PM
Maya, I think I've seen your group before.

Anyway back on topic. I remember about 1 or 2 years ago, Myspace.com posted up 2012 Survival program on their homepage. I couldn't believe it. Why don't we just hand people panic in cups and tell them to choke it down? How many little kids (referring to 9,10,11,12 year olds) that have myspace saw that and started to panic? I was like. Wow.. why Tom? WHY!

Sugaree
December 15th, 2009, 12:29 AM
Even if some significant change is due to occur, it's not going to happen, whatever it is (and very unlikely an apocalypse) according to various theories, all in a few days.

If there is some type of change, I do think that it won't be an apocalypse. Maybe our society may change. Who knows?


Anyway back on topic. I remember about 1 or 2 years ago, Myspace.com posted up 2012 Survival program on their homepage. I couldn't believe it. Why don't we just hand people panic in cups and tell them to choke it down? How many little kids (referring to 9,10,11,12 year olds) that have myspace saw that and started to panic? I was like. Wow.. why Tom? WHY!

Because people are very quick to panic. I think that people are more inclined to make panic their first reaction other than thinking the situation out before deciding. Plus, he did it for the lulz.

Shadowhunter
December 23rd, 2009, 06:26 PM
I dont believe it will be the end of the world really if you think about it since the day man walked the earth for the first time everyone comes up with myths and predictions for what might happen (like the end of the world) because not knowing whats going to happen next i personally think is man kinds worst fear or at least it seems that way..Besides the only loss of life that could happen in 2012 is if the people who think it is going to happen do something that kills them selves..which is horribly either way

clone
December 24th, 2009, 12:43 AM
i've seen documentry's on this apparently anchient chinese books had everything that would happen everyday and stopped on 2012 and there was other's, but really if you put anything into a goverment grade cpu it's going to 'decode' some stupid nonsence so...

lets party like its 2011!

Raoul Duke
December 28th, 2009, 04:49 PM
I don't believe that the Myans could perdict something on that big of scale. Seriously...? It's just when their calendar ends. The Myans were advanced in astromony and mathmatics for their time and considering how cut off the americas where isolated from the rest of the world at time until 1492(aka when columbus discovered the "New World"). Based on documentery films that i've seen about Myan civilization and culture, most of their recorded keepings and codex were burned by the Spanish. It's hard to say what will happen in the future. So im not going to worry to much. As for the movie 2012, it has the same effect as the movie series "Jaws." The movie is entertaining, but completly unrealistic.

teh crazy man
December 29th, 2009, 01:36 PM
the guy writing the calender had to take a shit and forgot to finish the calender, obviously.

CaptainObvious
December 29th, 2009, 02:04 PM
i've seen documentry's on this apparently anchient chinese books had everything that would happen everyday and stopped on 2012 and there was other's, but really if you put anything into a goverment grade cpu it's going to 'decode' some stupid nonsence so...

lets party like its 2011!

...right then.

Yeah, the world's not ending in 2012.

BlackBetty
December 29th, 2009, 08:36 PM
I believe that the world will end in 2012. That is when the Mayan calender ends. Notradoumous(?-spelling) has been correct about everything, so I believe that he might be right about this one too.

Perseus
December 29th, 2009, 09:29 PM
I believe that the world will end in 2012. That is when the Mayan calender ends. Notradoumous(?-spelling) has been correct about everything, so I believe that he might be right about this one too.

Just because a calendar ends doesn't mean anything. All calendars end at a certain point, right?
I don't believe anything said about Nostradomus, to be hoenst. He may be right about somethings, sort of, but that doesn't mean he's right about everything.
The History CHannel has been channeling all these Doomsday propheies and such for ratings, I bet.

skippyme
December 30th, 2009, 09:38 PM
from my rresearch on 2012 what is supposed to happen is the planetx which hhas been reccently seen by astronomers is supposed pass by the earth and send out EMP flares and will cause power failures and power plants to fail. the ancient sumerians saw some thousand years ago and named nabimbu some how the mayans knew about it too

Perseus
December 31st, 2009, 12:26 AM
from my rresearch on 2012 what is supposed to happen is the planetx which hhas been reccently seen by astronomers is supposed pass by the earth and send out EMP flares and will cause power failures and power plants to fail. the ancient sumerians saw some thousand years ago and named nabimbu some how the mayans knew about it too

Nibiru is FAKE.
Astronomers haven't found a planet "x.
It's just lies that people made up to make themselves feel good.

ThatDude93
December 31st, 2009, 09:35 PM
I think the world will end when it ends. I think it will be unexpected, not something we have known about for years.

Rebecca L Vaughn
January 13th, 2010, 02:47 PM
I don't believe it. Plus, the Mayan calendar just simply ends, it does not say anything about dying.

Giles
January 13th, 2010, 06:00 PM
I don't believe it. Plus, the Mayan calendar just simply ends, it does not say anything about dying.

Actually the Mayan calender talks about the 'changing of phases'. They thought there was five phases, we are going to enter the fifth phase (The golden phase) on 12-21-2012.

Kahn
January 30th, 2010, 01:10 PM
The Golden Phase is a time when the world is supposed to come up out of the depths of hell. Pretty much saying our economic crisis will be finished. There will be more, just this one will be finished. Iraq might not even end but I do not see that on the horizon anytime soon.

It is misinterpretation of the Mayan calendar. Somebody saw the end and thought "Oh sh*t dude. We gunna dai. I gotz to get this out to tha peepz back at home!"

No. We are not going to die, but I find it funny that we are still scared of each other. We are scared that we are going to cause the end of the world. Well I got news for you all. The end is not near. And we have to accept that. It is a theory. Not a fact and people have to realize this. If you read into it there are more people saying that it won't happen, but we will be renewed.

There were Armageddon predictions from people way before that and people are still predicting further Armageddons than that. Sir Issac Newton for example. He predicted that the world will end in 2060. Not 2012 and he was one of the greatest scientific minds of the world.

Like I said. It is all just a big theory, people need to realize this.

Kitty Purry
January 30th, 2010, 11:27 PM
i dont believe this at all like u said the world was supposedly gonna end several times and were still here. And god said her would never kill all people again. Like he did when he flooded the earth. So god woudnt let this happen. So my opnion is that this is all bs

nepats
February 11th, 2010, 07:02 PM
I wouldn't worry about the world ending in 2012, Busted have already been to the year 3000 lol

(americans may not get it)

Watta Tem
February 13th, 2010, 02:01 AM
after 6 yrs. there will be another end of the world... :.D

lucky 13
February 13th, 2010, 02:19 AM
maybe? it scares me into living my life to the fullest though...

Felix.
February 23rd, 2010, 12:10 PM
Yep I thought the exact same because of climate change and Olypics and reccesion and more violence and hate, and everything being super expensive, I think it's just going to be a massive riot or something... but I doubt it... most people will probs be drunk laughing about being dead in 20 minutes instead of fighting =/

2D
February 23rd, 2010, 12:15 PM
One word.

Bullshit.

Apparitions
February 23rd, 2010, 03:53 PM
I wouldn't worry about the world ending in 2012, Busted have already been to the year 3000 lol

(americans may not get it)
:D I lol'd. You got that from a Facebook page anyway.

Marcie
February 23rd, 2010, 04:07 PM
A while ago I heard that the world was supposed to end in 2009..
I'm not too worried. lol

BeautifulDisaster
February 24th, 2010, 10:05 AM
Scares the crap out of me but I also have been around long enough to know that prediction of the world ending has always turned out to be BS, so meh.

Evermore
February 24th, 2010, 11:29 AM
I survived through Y2K, 9/11 and swine flu. 2012? Bring it!!

Evermore
February 24th, 2010, 11:30 AM
I wouldn't worry about the world ending in 2012, Busted have already been to the year 3000 lol

(americans may not get it)

the jonas brothers have too

Katrina
February 25th, 2010, 06:48 AM
I think the Mayans got bored of creating the dates and they left it at 2012;)

Giles
February 25th, 2010, 10:47 AM
The Mayans didn't predict the end of the world.
People just interpreted it like that.

http://www.adishakti.org/mayan_end_times_prophecy_12-21-2012.htm

Charizard8
February 25th, 2010, 05:04 PM
This is a very debatable topic. Just make sure that you live your life to the fullest just in case. The fact that so many cultures and theorists point towards that specific day December 21, 2012, is shocking. Personally I do not believe it is the end of world, but I think it is the beginning of the cycle of time again. Have you ever thought "How could the universe have started?" Maybe it was always here. I theorize that time circles in a never ending loop. How could things just pop out of nowhere? The Big Bang theory is incredibly flawed, and it is a wonder how it is accepted still.

Charizard8
February 25th, 2010, 05:07 PM
I wouldn't worry about the world ending in 2012, Busted have already been to the year 3000 lol

(americans may not get it)

the jonas brothers have too

Fergie is in 3008, lol "Boom Boom Pow"

kenoloor
February 25th, 2010, 06:18 PM
The Mayans didn't predict the end of the world.
People just interpreted it like that.

http://www.adishakti.org/mayan_end_times_prophecy_12-21-2012.htm

No video. Too many words. Didn't read.

I'm with Jeff on this: Bullshit.

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Iron Man
February 25th, 2010, 07:48 PM
I don`t believe in this 2012 hysteria. Why is it that only the Mayans predicted the world would end in 2012? Why did they all disappear? You can`t take their word for it if they are all gone. People thought the world would end in 2000, but we are still here. On 12/21/12, we will still be here.

CaptainObvious
February 26th, 2010, 02:12 PM
This is a very debatable topic. Just make sure that you live your life to the fullest just in case. The fact that so many cultures and theorists point towards that specific day December 21, 2012, is shocking. Personally I do not believe it is the end of world, but I think it is the beginning of the cycle of time again. Have you ever thought "How could the universe have started?" Maybe it was always here. I theorize that time circles in a never ending loop. How could things just pop out of nowhere? The Big Bang theory is incredibly flawed, and it is a wonder how it is accepted still.

Thank you, local astrophysics and cosmology expert. I doubt you're even capable of understanding the mathematics required to model the early life of the universe or any of the techniques used therein, to say nothing of the expertise required to correct the conclusions.

Charizard8
February 26th, 2010, 09:28 PM
Thank you, local astrophysics and cosmology expert. I doubt you're even capable of understanding the mathematics required to model the early life of the universe or any of the techniques used therein, to say nothing of the expertise required to correct the conclusions.

Dude, I'm a child, of course I don't, please don't criticize me. What I just don't understand is, what was there before the big bang? How could it possibly have happened? Nobody knows, so everybody is entitled to an opinion. That my opinion, though it as no scientifical proof, you cannot say I am wrong, but I cannot say I am right.

josh93
February 26th, 2010, 09:54 PM
I dont know i belive it but then i dont they always say the world is going to end but it dosnt but then one day the world will end.

Evermore
February 26th, 2010, 09:54 PM
Thank you, local astrophysics and cosmology expert. I doubt you're even capable of understanding the mathematics required to model the early life of the universe or any of the techniques used therein, to say nothing of the expertise required to correct the conclusions.

You're just Mr. Sensitive aren't you?

Anywayz I think that the world will not end the world ending idea was the aztec religion that has been extinct for years.

Bougainvillea
February 26th, 2010, 10:03 PM
Welcome to a debate lance.
He touched down on a subject that he has no particular expertise in, and David called it out.

Charizard8
February 26th, 2010, 10:24 PM
Welcome to a debate lance.
He touched down on a subject that he has no particular expertise in, and David called it out.

OO, a debate! I always wanted one of those!

cody2010
February 26th, 2010, 10:42 PM
i, personally think it's a loud of horse sh*t. sorry but i'm kinda sick of people saying the world will end in 2010.

Charizard8
February 26th, 2010, 11:09 PM
i, personally think it's a loud of horse sh*t. sorry but i'm kinda sick of people saying the world will end in 2010.

sorry, but its 2012, not 2010

cody2010
February 26th, 2010, 11:13 PM
whoops, that's what i meant.

Antares
February 26th, 2010, 11:38 PM
Would it be bad if I said I hope the world ends?

lol...it would solve all of these debates and everyone dieing at once would be so much easier :P

Evermore
February 26th, 2010, 11:40 PM
Would it be bad if I said I hope the world ends?

lol...it would solve all of these debates and everyone dieing at once would be so much easier :P

Thats's kinda morbid don'tcha think? How bout everyone but my baby brother? and another pretty little baby for them to repopulate the world once they get older? :)

soccer8
February 27th, 2010, 12:20 AM
the world wont end in 2012 that calender recycles like ours now and plus that race died out before it could contine

Dannybre
February 28th, 2010, 12:36 PM
The end of the world is creepy to think of

kenoloor
February 28th, 2010, 02:59 PM
Would it be bad if I said I hope the world ends?

lol...it would solve all of these debates and everyone dieing at once would be so much easier :P

Agreed.

Dive to Survive
March 13th, 2010, 06:02 PM
Apparently the mayan calendar has been right about everything.. now it says that the world goes bye-bye in 2012.. they made a movie and all that stuff

Who believes this??

I dont. My parents said that everybody said the world would end a bunch of times in the past.. and look at that.. we are still here.

Does anybody have different theories?
just a general discussion :yes:

I dont think it will happen. What happened to the Mayans anyway? Sorry, I havent payed much attention in history :)

Sage
March 13th, 2010, 06:32 PM
What happened to the Mayans anyway? Sorry, I havent payed much attention in history :)

This much is evident. Welcome to Ramblings of the Wise. Essentially, the Mayans suffered the same fate as native americans here in Canada and the USA. Only, they were conquered by the spanish and possibly a few others (it slips my mind). They are still around today, though only as a minority in their countries around Central America. Think south of Mexico but not quite down to Colombia.

Perseus
March 13th, 2010, 06:37 PM
I dont think it will happen. What happened to the Mayans anyway? Sorry, I havent payed much attention in history :)

A bunch of them just disappeared; they're still around chillin' in Central and South America.

But there are a couple of "explanations" as why they just disappeared, lol.

belfordrocks
March 13th, 2010, 06:48 PM
Apparently the mayan calendar has been right about everything.. now it says that the world goes bye-bye in 2012.. they made a movie and all that stuff
Who believes this??

I dont. My parents said that everybody said the world would end a bunch of times in the past.. and look at that.. we are still here.

Does anybody have different theories?
just a general discussion :yes:

Nothing is going to happen. The fact that they have already made a movie and stuff suggests that they're only trying to make money off this.