Camp

[MisterMonster]

I am a very camp person. It's like a defence mechanism, the butcher a man i'm with the camper i get. The thing is, when I'm around really camp people i get much more manly. I actually really love being camp but when i see other gay peoples things they're like "I hate camp people, what is this outrage, don't make me write a letter!"
Why do you hate camp, gays of VT?

The same thing goes fir butch, if you're a lesbian :P

[diamond jetstream]

whats camp explain more

[clr9823]

I find camp-ness to be infuriating. It is a shame that it is associated with homosexuality.

Why?
The voice; it is so high that sometimes I think a signal generator has just been turned on.
Also, the melodrama that accompanies EVERYTHING (OMGOMGOMG THIS HOT CHOCOLATE IS SO TOOOOTALY DELICIOUS!!!!1).
And the hand gestures; I can understand people without them giving me visual stimuli ("Yes, you're handing over money for the hot chocolate. Now you're drinking it. I UNDERSTAND").

Yeah, basically that is it. Although as much as they annoy the living daylights out of me, I don't judge or discriminate against them.

[BeautifulSilence]

As an asexual third gendered being, I find camp to be very attractive in like every way possible. Not sure why.

And I'm not a hater of butch girls, I just don't find them particularly physically attractive, most of the time. I have many butch female friends and I'm attracted more to their personality.

[The Joker]

Well, they were born as men, so they should act like men. The same goes for women.

[BeautifulSilence]

*Actually gasps*

Why should there be a set way for men and women to act?

What is actually wrong with a feminine male or a masculine female?

Please help me to understand your point of view.

[The Joker]

OK, I don't really mind it, but males should be more masculine. If they want to be more feminine than masculine, get a sex change.

[MisterMonster]

um....
Kitn, while i don't doubt that you are a lovely person, you have to let people be people. Males shouldn't just be masculine. Thats like saying
"Well Black people should all be bass playing, street wise, soul singers"
Which of course is ludicrous.

[sildavin]

OK, I don't really mind it, but males should be more masculine. If they want to be more feminine than masculine, get a sex change.

um....
Kitn, while i don't doubt that you are a lovely person, you have to let people be people. Males shouldn't just be masculine. Thats like saying
"Well Black people should all be bass playing, street wise, soul singers"
Which of course is ludicrous.

I have to say, I disagree with Kitn, and agree with MrMonster. And dont get me wrong, like monster said, kitn, you probably are a nice person. But what gives you the right to dictate how other people live their lives? Especially if they aren't harming you?

You're entitled to your opinion, I'll give you that, but what if someone wanted you to change the way you were, just by how you acted or your personality?

[ShatteredWings]

As an asexual third gendered being, I find camp to be very attractive in like every way possible. Not sure why.

And I'm not a hater of butch girls, I just don't find them particularly physically attractive, most of the time. I have many butch female friends and I'm attracted more to their personality.
and here's where we differ :P
But, asexuality, laura, means that you're not attracted to anyone. Since when are you not attracted to people?
OK, I don't really mind it, but males should be more masculine. If they want to be more feminine than masculine, get a sex change.
Hm, matt care to elaborate on this?
What's wrong with people defying our rather restrictive gender roles?

[The Joker]

Sorry everyone. It just makes me uncomfortable. I do feel bad that it does, but it does.

[diamond jetstream]

i agree with kitn because when a gay guy prances around and puts emphasis on the fact that he is gay and then cries if someone calls him gay it puts a stereotype on all gay bi or curious people and that is not the way we all are.

[thepieman]

For me, I find it a turn off. I have nothing against camp men but I find it annoying at times, in the same way I'd find a really "girly girl" annoying, if you see my point. It's just a characteristic that irritates me, regardless of the person's gender.

[The Harlequin]

I try not to let it bother me, but it does ~ like what pieman said, I just find it to be a bit too sickly, like a cuppa tea with six sugars in it, really turns me off and I'm not surprised that it makes people uncomfortable, just consider them sexually diabetic, it's not their fault, not all the time anyway... (:^

[ShatteredWings]

Sorry everyone. It just makes me uncomfortable. I do feel bad that it does, but it does.

Okay.
Just out of cuirocity, do you feel the same way about more masculine girls?

[Appleton]

I agree with kitn. it's just that once someone sees a person acting like that, they assume that all gays are like that. I'm not like that at all. I understand they have a right to act as they choose but we also have the right to say that we are uncomfortable with it. Just like whites who are not racists have the right to say they are uncomfortable <or worse> with the way white supremacists act.

[MisterMonster]

okay, i think i get it now
thanks a lot people. :P

[The Joker]

Okay.
Just out of cuirocity, do you feel the same way about more masculine girls?

A bit. That one isn't too bad for me, actually. Depends on HOW masculine, though.