Aarons Story

[Project Delta]

First draft.

You have all probably seen at least one self harm video on youtube, and you might think that meh, it doesnt matter you dont know them. Its a possibilty. Well hopefully this one will hit home. Its MINE..

WARNING COULD BE TRIGGERING

FEEDBACK Appreciated. What can we do to make it better?

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[Wakoabs]

:) I am going to say you should really watch watch it it makes you realise a lot you wouldn't think it would and it very moving and good in a way.

[Amyxoxo]

i loved it <3

[MadManWithaBox]

that was excellent. you are ubersome. that was eye opening. you deserve rep for that. and the fact you have the courage to post it on youtube, shows me a strengh of character, and respect for you. bravo

[Discomposure]

That was really powerful...lol. 68 days is amazing aaron keep it up, reach your target and go beyond it. I'm very sorry about what happened to you... But look how strong you've came against them. Stay strong :)
- Btw what song is that in the video?

[Project Delta]

My Skin - Natalie Merchant

[PoisonedRazorBlades]

Wow Aaron. I'm not quite sure what to say. It almost made me cry, and I probably only didn't cause I have a friend over. It was amazing though. I'm so proud of you Aaron. You are doing great. I know you can beat this. You are a great guy and don't deserve the pain.

[mrmcdonaldduck]

wow, that was a god video. 5 stars for you.

[YesterdaysNews]

great job aaron... the video moved me... and you have the strength to post it for the world to see. congratulations on 68 days :) I believe you can keep it it.
amazing...

[Aηdy]

wow that was a very touching story.

i nearly didn't watch it but i'm glad i did.

well done, keep strong.

[Atonement]

Great job, I liked it. Only thing I have to correct, it says, "gots worse"... I'm a grammar nazi. 1:22

[AllThatIsLeft]

Wow, that is very courageous of you.
Thanksfor putting this here.

I know that there is nothing like letting out.
great job!

[Project Delta]

Thanks Addi but you MISSED ONE... O.o on the first slide it says "Arrons" not "Aarons"


Thank you all guys, This will be passed along to the creator... i gave her the story and we chose the pictures together and i chose the music :) Thanks guys :)

[Darkness]

Tbh the shortness of the sentences annoyed me and a bit of the grammar, other than that it's a perfect diagram of how you feel/felt. Well done.

[NeverLetGo]

That was amazing! The only thing was the grammar was a little sketchy. However, other than that it was phenomenal.

+Rep.

[ihatemylife]

This Was Very Moving, It Describes What I Have Been Through I Failed My GCSE's Due To Depression.

[Cloud]

I think making thats a really selfish thing to do. Its basicly attention whoring in my opinion. yes you self harm yes your life might suck but we dont want to know about it every 5 minutes. there some people on here who have it alot worse than you and we hear nothing from them, take marcie for example shes got so mcuh more stuff than you have and shes took it into her own hands and dealt with it instead of bitching about it. Yes she may make threads in the forum but she only does them occasionally.
and i think by making this video youve just completely showed yourself up as a selfish attention whore.people get bullied alot yes its a big problem we hear it all the time in the news with statistics and shit, we know it fucks up lives and we dont need a video to tell us that. You can tell im pissed off by this video but its my opinion and if you dont like it then thats fine i jsut felt this needed to be said. So stop whining about it, take the example and sort it out. and i know for a fact that people are going to agree with me.

[sasquatch]

Firstly, it is a VERY well made video, good musical timing, good graphics etc. BUT. and feel free to correct me on this, if someone is REALLY feeling as crappy as that video describes. then , at least in my own experience, i wouldn't have had the heart or soul to make it in the first place, in that respect i agree with calum, i think there is a little bit of showboating going on. Secondly, how do these help people? videos that have to have a warning "may trigger" well.... sorry mate but that's not helpful really is it?
(has heard quite a bit about you, so i think i now stand by this post)

[Ripplemagne]

I watched up until 1:39 and started to foam at the mouth.

You started to cut yourself because people weren't nice to you? Really? I have Clinical Depression, ADD and ADHD and I've been on meds for all of them. In my youth, I was subjected to bullying on a level of absolute insanity.

Know what I did? I gritted my teeth, raised my fists and fought back. Every. Single. Week. At least one fight every single week. Usually, more.

Then I'd get grounded for it, never got to go on any school trips/plays/parties/whatever, until my mom realized what was going on. One time, I got accused of starting a food fight when I wasn't even in school that day.

No, it's not an easy road, but it's not something to whine about. It's something you fight through and persevere. I was in your shoes and I never resorted to mangling myself because of it.

http://www.flatrock.org.nz/topics/odds_and_oddities/assets/starving-boy.jpg

See this kid? He's starving, dehydrated, ill clothed and probably diseased too. Not to mention the fact that he likely has very little to live for. Do you think he cuts himself?

No. Because his body can't even regulate blood flow properly. This kid will live a more agonizing life than any one of you on a daily basis and I'm almost certain that you complain more than he would.

So, take off that little plaid skirt you're wearing and grab life by the horns, so you can see that the power you gain from it is enough to thwart any adversary that comes your way.

[Raynes]

In this case, I mostly agree with Calum. And I definitely agree with Ripplemagne. Everybody thinks they have it worse than everybody else, and that they have to tell everyone. There are people with real problems, that just deal with it. Attention whoring is much more addictive than cutting is.

Cutting can lead to psychological addiction, if you let it, but it isn't Heroin.

[OnlyByTheNight.]

I have to agree with Calum here. There are other people on here with it much worse off and they don't go making videos about it. It just seems kinda pointless, and triggering for other S/Hers, to post these vids.
But thats just my opinion.

[Triceratops]

I've given this a thought and I actually have to agree with the likes of Calum and Ripplemagne.

Everyone has their burdens in life, not one person has the perfect life by all means.
This is coming from experience, whinging and bitching about your problems will NEVER solve anything, you have to face the music by gritting your teeth, holding your head high and embracing each and every damn thing as it comes your way.

There is so much I would change, but it's never going to miraculously happen by itself. Yes, we do vent and complain about our life's issues at times, but who doesn't? We have to work to solve our burdens for ourselves, and it's not supposed to be simple work either. Professional help and the support of others is a great boost but at the end of the day the majority of it's down to the individual to sort themselves out and to get better. No one can live your life for you.

Wallowing in your own self pity will get you no where.

[Ripplemagne]

The likes of? Whatchu tryin' ta say, bells?

[Project Delta]

Okay firstly this video was made for a presentation i'm doing on self harm which is soon to be uploaded too. This is not looking for attention. And the reason at the end there is the fact that people can send me any messages to find out more information. This is meant to be used as a learning tool. This mis my story.

[Cloud]

aaron its rubbing itin peoples faces as to how well your donig
there not learning anything other than how pathetic you are for doing it and how selfish you are for posting it
its not educational all it is is so you can gloat about how well your doing. SO DONT BOTHER.

[Raynes]

But you aren't teaching anything. The story is basically you repeating yourself for 4 minutes, and telling everybody how bad you felt/feel. This video is attention whoring. I'm not trying to offend you, I'm just calling it as I see it. I feel as if I'm having "Oh I felt so bad." shoved down my throat throughout the length of the video. Nothing you say in the video makes me feel as if you have a valid reason to self harm, though there isn't a valid reason in the first place, this is one of the crappiest reasons I've seen so far. There are people out there with real problems, people who don't get to eat, people who don't get to walk, people who die from a terminal disease like cancer at 15 years of age. This is an insult to those people. Committing suicide at the age of 15 for reasons such as these are a direct insult to those 15 year old cancer patients with no chance to live.

As for the actual video, after watching it all the way through, I have to say, the video is quite unprofessional. The fact that there are so many grammatical errors, and just complete screw-ups, makes me feel as if you cared so little about this video that you didn't even care to re-read what you wrote to correct the errors. Some of the pictures in between feel like more of a "Haha, this is just a joke." than anything. This isn't educational. You're telling a sob story, and instead of telling a heartfelt account of the things that led up to your self-harm, you turn it into some kind of Lifetime drama movie.

Also, Aaron, do you realize how many times, and how many ways you say [i]I was hurting so bad, so much pain, oh no, it hurt on my god the pain the agony![/b]?

Please don't take offense to what I say. Everybody is a critic, and I'm just giving my honest opinion as it pertains to your videos, and your story.

Blessed be.

[sasquatch]

"The newspaper revealed in March that there were 97,871 hospital admissions for deliberate self-harm in England in 2007-08 - 4,337 of them for children under the age of 14. Meanwhile, last month's annual Psychiatric Morbidity Survey revealed that nearly 12 per cent of women aged between 16 and 24 admitted to self-harm in 2007 - a rise of 80 per cent since 2000." how many of them do you think are depressed enough to have to make a video explaining how depressed they are?

"this is my story" sound rather epic, and to be very honest mate, it has a tang that whispers "delusions of granduer" if it is an educational presentation mate, then one: it should really be objective, and 2: if it's all sad music and violins etc etc, and about you. then the natural reaction of people who have been in worse situations without telling people (oh . wait, most people who self harm wouldn't go and tell people about it in a presentation anyway, they'd hide it like they'd hide from the plague) are going to have the initial reaction of thinking that it is attention seeking. just my opinion, feel free to prove me wrong. :)

AND. just to add. i've had depression for.. as long as i can remember. anxiety for . as long as i can remember. I have dissociate identity disorder. and i have scars covering pretty much every part of my body.
i have recieved a fractured rib, a broken thumb, and a broken nose on two occasions. a broken arm, and i have been put in a coma for two weeks. as a direct result of bullying


I've also been to california. twice. got good grades in college. I LOVE life (though perhaps not most of the people in it)
but you know what else, I've also tried to HELP other people by NOT talking about my own problems, and focussing on people who actually need help. (yes i know i rant, but then so does everyone)

in conclusion. you need to GET. THE FUCK. OVER IT. if you want to actually help people. then DON'T make sadass videos about YOU. Talk to others as if you actually want THEM to feel a bit better about life. peace.

[Tiberius]

Really? Honestly? I mean, come on. I was bullied for the bast amjority of my life. School used to be my fucking worst nightmare, I'd be afraid just to get on the bus. Guess what, I did it anyways, I pulled through it, all on my own. Next on the rainbow list of things that comprises my wonderful is my family. What a fucking nightmare. How do you think it feels not being loved by more than one of your parents at a time, if that. I don't know, maybe they did love me, but they sure as the hell didn't show it- I always came last. Some might say that I had severe depression, going home and crying to myself with no one else to turn to. I used to be surrounded(still am) and I feel as though I'm in a cage. Having a sister who constantly tried to murder you and parents who didn't show any semblemce of love to me is something that hardly any child has to go through and I've been through bullying at school, so don't give me any crap that I don't know what I'm talking about. You know what I did? I try my damnedest to hold my head high no matter what shit decided to land on my head that day, no matter what it felt like and I fought bake with all my might. When in solace, sure I'd take the moment to cry a little or destroy something. Life ain't a cupcake, so stop whining, there's others of us who have it a lot worse off.

-end rant

[Darkness]

A hate to say it but there is an element of it that says "I have delusions of grandeur".
Try and make it less personal, more Information driven not experience driven.

I'm "Bullied" but I don't SH, does that make me a better person?-No, so come on guys came we be constructive here?

[Project Delta]

Okay guys this is meant as the finishing video of a self harm presetation so i know that it wzas meant for the good. I do not mean to gloat. And i did NOT make the video. I told my story to someone who wanted to make the video FOR MY PRESENTATION. Its under her account on youtube because of this reason. I dont mean for it to sound selfish or attention seeking at ALL. I mean for this video to be helpful to the people that DONT UNDERSTAND SELF HARM
okay?

[Cloud]

so you make them understand by maknig it seem like everyone whos bullied s/hs yeah now theyll have deluded thoughts. it doesnt help anyone to know that you were bullied and you got upset so cut
theres worse shit for other people whose stories would teach people lessons
yours DEOSNT so dont bother

[theOperaGhost]

Really? Honestly? I mean, come on. I was bullied for the bast amjority of my life. School used to be my fucking worst nightmare, I'd be afraid just to get on the bus. Guess what, I did it anyways, I pulled through it, all on my own. Next on the rainbow list of things that comprises my wonderful is my family. What a fucking nightmare. How do you think it feels not being loved by more than one of your parents at a time, if that. I don't know, maybe they did love me, but they sure as the hell didn't show it- I always came last. Some might say that I had severe depression, going home and crying to myself with no one else to turn to. I used to be surrounded(still am) and I feel as though I'm in a cage. Having a sister who constantly tried to murder you and parents who didn't show any semblemce of love to me is something that hardly any child has to go through and I've been through bullying at school, so don't give me any crap that I don't know what I'm talking about. You know what I did? I try my damnedest to hold my head high no matter what shit decided to land on my head that day, no matter what it felt like and I fought bake with all my might. When in solace, sure I'd take the moment to cry a little or destroy something. Life ain't a cupcake, so stop whining, there's others of us who have it a lot worse off.

-end rant

QFT.

I was bullied and teased. Nobody has ever really liked me very much. I don't really have the family issues some people have (we're not a close family by all means, but we're not horrible). I think people need to stop whining about being bullied. Suck it up, fight back, and keep your head up. That's how I've always got by. I've had my times where I've cried about it, but come on...get over it! Self pity will not get you anywhere, and trying to get people to pity you won't get you anywhere either.

[Raynes]

Okay guys this is meant as the finishing video of a self harm presetation so i know that it wzas meant for the good. I do not mean to gloat. And i did NOT make the video. I told my story to someone who wanted to make the video FOR MY PRESENTATION. Its under her account on youtube because of this reason. I dont mean for it to sound selfish or attention seeking at ALL. I mean for this video to be helpful to the people that DONT UNDERSTAND SELF HARM
okay?

I feel that if you present this to people, with this story, and this video, and those words, you'll get laughed at. You need to have this person revise this video, and correct the words, remove the stupid pictures, and not be dramatic just to lengthen the video. Wikipedia has a great article on self-harm where you can find all sorts of information about it, such as the psychological addiction that sometimes forms out of it, that people tend to make too much of a big deal out of.

I'm seriously not trying to rag on you about this, but it's just the truth. You have this girl asking people to send you messages tell you how wonderful you are, and how great you're doing, and it's just annoying. I tend to mark anyone who takes cutting, and turns it into some kind of drama about how awful their life is and how no one can understand as an attention whore.

Your story doesn't really represent the reasons that people self harm. I've seen stories ranging from past child-abuse, to drug-addict parent's et al, but you act like getting bullied in school is the source of all evil.

Hand in hand, I really recommend you not using this video. That's all.

Blessed be.

[Ripplemagne]

Still doesn't explain why you posted it here. You can white wash the facts all you want, but I think deep down, you know you were expecting "Omg! You poor dear! Let me have soft, sweet, passionate sex with you to make you feel better!"

[Triceratops]

There really is no valid reason in to why people self harm. I believe self harm is disgusting and not to mention pretty damn selfish - brand me a hypocrite if you wish, but I'm doing what I can to fight and end this once and for all. I've been doing this repetitive shit for five years now, it's a tough addiction but it's down to the person to fucking wake up and realise that what they're doing is stupid. Sure, you move closer and closer to caving once in a while but you HAVE to pull yourself together and NOT allow it to win you over.

It does mean you have failed if you cave, and it does disappoint and let others down, majorly. The more people sympathize and pity you, the more less likely you are going to stop self-harming. However, the more disgusted people are with you for cutting can actually encourage the self-harmer to quit as it registers in to their heads that what they're doing to themselves is beyond foolish and is only destroying others as well in the making.

[PoisonedRazorBlades]

I think everyone one is being a little too harsh. I mean, fair enough if you don't like the video, I'm not saying you must. But what I'm getting is that a lot of you are saying he's pathetic for cutting about being bullied. And that if he wanted to cut he should have a better reason?

Well take me. Nothing that bad has happened to me. The worst thing is that my grandad OD'd on Herion. And I cut. Aaron's problems may not seem important to you, but they affect him, so they are important in some sense. Cutting isn't always about a horrific childhood. Its just how different people react to different things.

[theOperaGhost]

There really is no valid reason in to why people self harm. I believe self harm is disgusting and not to mention pretty damn selfish - brand me a hypocrite if you wish, but I'm doing what I can to fight and end this once and for all. I've been doing this repetitive shit for five years now, it's a tough addiction but it's down to the person to fucking wake up and realise that what they're doing is stupid. Sure, you move closer and closer to caving once in a while but you HAVE to pull yourself together and NOT allow it to win you over.

It does mean you have failed if you cave, and it does disappoint and let others down, majorly. The more people sympathize and pity you, the more less likely you are going to stop self-harming. However, the more disgusted people are with you for cutting can actually encourage the self-harmer to quit as it registers in to their heads that what they're doing to themselves is beyond foolish and is only destroying others as well in the making.

This is like the best post I've ever seen on this website! Rep+++++++ :)

[Ripplemagne]

I think everyone one is being a little too harsh. I mean, fair enough if you don't like the video, I'm saying you must. But what I'm getting is that a lot of you are saying he's pathetic for cutting about being bullied. And that if he wanted to cut he should have a better reason?

Well take me. Nothing that bad has happened to me. The worst thing is that my grandad OD'd on Herion. And I cut. Aaron's problems may not seem important to you, but they affect him, so they are important in some sense. Cutting isn't always about a horrific childhood. Its just how different people react to different things.

http://www.flatrock.org.nz/topics/odds_and_oddities/assets/starving-boy.jpg

[Raynes]

I think everyone one is being a little too harsh. I mean, fair enough if you don't like the video, I'm saying you must. But what I'm getting is that a lot of you are saying he's pathetic for cutting about being bullied. And that if he wanted to cut he should have a better reason?

Well take me. Nothing that bad has happened to me. The worst thing is that my grandad OD'd on Herion. And I cut. Aaron's problems may not seem important to you, but they affect him, so they are important in some sense. Cutting isn't always about a horrific childhood. Its just how different people react to different things.

I never said he was pathetic. I just said that he's likely to be laughed at if he presents this video, with this story. I'm sorry if I offended anyone, but it's just my opinion.

There is no valid reason to cut, as Pandora said, and I'm not saying he should have a better reason. I've went through plenty of shit, and I've never had an urge to cut, and I've never seen how it can make anyone feel better in any way, yet everyone here has told me thousands of times and thousands of reasons why it helps them. I try my best to keep my nose from flying up in the air, and I try to respect everyone's decisions, and I typically succeed. The most I've ever done with cutting is experiment by cutting myself across the arm one time, when I felt like killing somebody to see if it really did what people say. It did nothing for me. I don't dispute the validity of people's claims, and I don't ridicule them for doing what they do. I just don't like attention whores, and people who brag about self-harm, and feel the need to exclaim how awful their life is.

I don't see anything in cutting, and I never have and never will. The best that anyone can ask of me is to respect others who do. I rarely post in these forums for that specific reason. I cannot empathize with a self-harmer, therefore I can't stand around and say "Good job on not cutting, buddy! Keep it up." I don't really belong in this discussion any further for these reasons, so I'll just slip out now, and let this discussion continue amongst those who can empathize. :)

Blessed be.

[sasquatch]

That about says it all ripp

[Cloud]

i didnt say his reasons for cutting were pathetic
i jsut felt the vid was pointless and stupid
btw all those who are neg repping me sign it please :)
its an opinion
one thats shared by alot of people
i felt the video was a selfish thing to do becuase to me
it seemed like he was gloating bout donig so well
and the other stuff i said in my first post

[Darkness]

Right you lot are staring to piss me off,

Tiberius? Your just like him, but don't make him your life story.
Ripplemage, that point has been made more than once, and you just did it in a way
that doesn't even make sense, stop bumping your fecking ego.
Cloud your point is right, your delivery is however a little tactless.
Sasquatch, I'm not even gonna start.

There is a difference between being blunt and dropping ten tons of steel on someone.

[Cloud]

truth hurts darkness but it needs to be said
like now
i felt it was necessarry
and i had alot of people agreeing with me

[Raynes]

I will add that there is no reason for this to turn into a fight. All everyone did was state their opinions. We should just leave it at that, and walk away.

[theOperaGhost]

Right you lot are staring to piss me off,

Tiberius? Your just like him, but don't make him your life story.
Ripplemage, that point has been made more than once, and you just did it in a way
that doesn't even make sense, stop bumping your fecking ego.
Cloud your point is right, your delivery is however a little tactless.
Sasquatch, I'm not even gonna start.

There is a difference between being blunt and dropping ten tons of steel on someone.

Some people deserve that amount of bluntness...maybe it will put them right back into reality. Like I said...people with a ton of self pity or who look for pity from other people just piss me off. That is all this thread is about...pity. Stop being such little bitches, suck it up, and move on with your lives.

[Darkness]

@Clould, and so do I, but not with how you say it.

@Raynes, Done.

[Cloud]

the message is clear
and it sinks in the way i say it
if it were sugarcoated then its a pointless piost
it needs to be harsh to sink in so thats how i did it

[sasquatch]

I should imagine that ten tons of steel would be less painful than cutting.
and less annoying than that video.
but true, the time has come to simply walk away.
Kid, do what you want. personally i couldn't care less untill you figure out if you're helping other people or helping yourself to other peoples sympathy.

Darkness, feel free to start. By all means. I don't mince words, I don't bullshit. I don't sprinkle my thoughts with horses douvres or salt and pepper. I say exactly what i mean. Yes, I'm a barstard. No, I don't care that I'm a barstard.

peace.

[Ripplemagne]

Ripplemage, that point has been made more than once, and you just did it in a way
that doesn't even make sense, stop bumping your fecking ego.

http://www.livinggallery.cc/starving%20child.jpg
http://sheepoverboard.com/passingparade/img-mature/starving-child-4b.jpg
http://www.gerrymay.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/01/9-11-n.jpg
http://www.worldproutassembly.org/images/leukemia.jpg
http://s2.buzzfeed.com/static/imagebuzz/web02/2009/5/6/21/woman-survives-shotgun-blast-to-the-face-gets-new-1428-1241659123-0.jpg
http://thewiddershins.files.wordpress.com/2009/05/rapevictim.jpg
http://www.thewashingtonnote.com/tehran%20violence.jpg
http://blog.reidreport.com/uploaded_images/iraq-soldierHoldingIraqiChild-730524.jpg

[theOperaGhost]

@Clould, and so do I, but not with how you say it.

@Raynes, Done.

If things are sugarcoated, there's no point in saying it. I think he was being respectful in how he was saying things. He was blunt, but he was completely truthful and he wasn't insulting or harmful in any way.

[Zazu]

Facepalm.

The idea of 'if you have nothing nice to say, say nothing at all' comes into my head here. If people didn't want to watch it, they didn't have to.

But I suppose different people are going to have different opinions on it, which can only be expected and is fair enough.

[2D]

Okay guys. You all got bullied. And yes I can see how this video is attention seeking. But I'm gonna try and make a point, so bear with me. You guys are acting like the biggest group of bullies I have ever seen on this forum. And Chris, (i think that's your name) you are no better than the person you are putting down. You just wrote how much worse your life is, hypocritical much? And yes I see how in the end you just said that you just sucked it up. But still. I didn't need your life story to learn that telling life stories is gonna get you bullied. Just lay off okay? People have different tolerances as to what they can take. Mine happens to be very low. So I won't be posting my video I'm making. Thanks for showing me that getting my emotions out and sharing them is bad.

[Sunshine Girl]

There really is no valid reason in to why people self harm. .

agreed.

Everyone has there own limits on what they can handle.
:)

[Ripplemagne]

Okay guys. You all got bullied. And yes I can see how this video is attention seeking. But I'm gonna try and make a point, so bear with me. You guys are acting like the biggest group of bullies I have ever seen on this forum. And Chris, (i think that's your name) you are no better than the person you are putting down. You just wrote how much worse your life is, hypocritical much? And yes I see how in the end you just said that you just sucked it up. But still. I didn't need your life story to learn that telling life stories is gonna get you bullied. Just lay off okay? People have different tolerances as to what they can take. Mine happens to be very low. So I won't be posting my video I'm making. Thanks for showing me that getting my emotions out and sharing them is bad.

You talking to me?

[2D]

Facepalm.

The idea of 'if you have nothing nice to say, say nothing at all' comes into my head here. If people didn't want to watch it, they didn't have to.

But I suppose different people are going to have different opinions on it, which can only be expected and is fair enough.

Ahhh a sweet voice a reason. How I missed that.

[PoisonedRazorBlades]

Facepalm.

The idea of 'if you have nothing nice to say, say nothing at all' comes into my head here. If people didn't want to watch it, they didn't have to.

But I suppose different people are going to have different opinions on it, which can only be expected and is fair enough.

Agreed

[Sunshine Girl]

People have different tolerances as to what they can take. Mine happens to be very low. .

As i said, i agree.

[Cloud]

Facepalm.

The idea of 'if you have nothing nice to say, say nothing at all' comes into my head here. If people didn't want to watch it, they didn't have to.

But I suppose different people are going to have different opinions on it, which can only be expected and is fair enough.

yes but it needed to be said
desperately
and if it werent said nothing is learnt and the illusion continues.

[Project Delta]

I agree with david

[2D]

You talking to me?

I was addressing a good half of that to Tiberius. But yes basically everyone who ganged up to bully Aaron. At least that how it comes across when you look at everything objectively.

[MysticalBurrito]

I don't agree with Calum.
I don't agree with Ripplemagne at all.

It's a video get the fuck over it and stop burning repeatedly

One person posted the others agree
Stop posting the same damn thing.

And Ripplenagne the pictures aren't necessary
Stop forcing guilt down peoples throat

[Cloud]

we werent bullying him jeff
it was a statement of opinion
inn this case the opinion of the majority
we werent bullying
we didnt abuse him
we were not flaming
we were jsut saying our opinions

[Ripplemagne]

I was addressing a good half of that to Tiberius. But yes basically everyone who ganged up to bully Aaron. At least that how it comes across when you look at thing objectively.

Why do you assume anyone with an opinion in contrast to yours isn't looking at the issue objectively? Are you familiar with logical fallacies?

No one ganged up on him. He posted this, thinking everyone would boo hoo him and coddle him for having a normal life and he got a reality check.

Notice how the only lengthly, in depth posts in this thread are the ones chastising him? Notice how nothing has actually refuted those points? That's objectivism.

And Ripplenagne the pictures aren't necessary
Stop forcing guilt down peoples throat

Where's guilt?

[MysticalBurrito]

we were not flaming

Not true

Magne posting pictures of starving kids causes guilt

[sasquatch]

I don't agree with any of you, and yet i agree with all of you, in different ways. i think calum is more or less right, rippledude, those pictures speak more loudly than words could. Everyone but the subject of this thread seems to have a logical and mature way of discussing things. so surely it defeats itself. or at least that's how i see it.

*sinks down the plughole with his middle finger dissapearing last*
goodbye thread, goodluck on whoever is arguing with whoever :)

[Project Delta]

I DID NOT EXPECT EVERYONE TO GO "awww poor aaron" you idiots. Now just leave me alone and let it die? OKaY?! Jeez...

[Cloud]

Not true

Magne posting pictures of starving kids causes guilt

thats still not flaming
we broke no rules here
we simply shared opinions
and if that went against yours then fine with me
but why let the opinions get in the way of it
so you have different opinions does that suddenly mean im a twat like what has been implied
NO

jeez aarons flamed more than all we have

[Harley Quinn]

I think this thread is really pointless now, you've all voiced opinions and agreed and disagreed but now you have to move on and leave it for now, i think he gets it

[2D]

Pretty please?

[Sunshine Girl]

. Aaron's problems may not seem important to you, but they affect him, so they are important in some sense. Cutting isn't always about a horrific childhood. Its just how different people react to different things.

I think everyone should read that again.
please and thankyou.

Oh and the pictures? a bit too far there buddy.

[2D]

I'm wondering how those pictures are any different than the ones that got deleted from my account about my crash. Those are far worse than what happened to me.

[Holding On*]

aaron just lock the thread... ?

[Ripplemagne]

Magne posting pictures of starving kids causes guilt

If we're talking about a political subject, sure. But the point of said images was to illustrate the fact -- FACT -- that his life is nothing to whine over. Is he eating? Does he have parents? Is he in a shelter? Is he dodging mortar and witnessing death every day? Is he afflicted by a dehabilitating disease? Are his loved ones? Is he living in a third world country with inhospitable landscape? Has he been savagely raped or tortured?

The point of those depictions were to snap you back into reality. His life is very much normal and by normal, I mean good because normal for many people is starvation. Snot nosed, self-centered brats who whine at the first sight of a blemish in their life strike a nerve in me.

I've seen people who should be absolutely butchering themselves, but do you know what they do? Do you know what they do, kid? Huh? They smile and tell you to be strong for them.

Stop watching Hannah Montana and Wizards of Waverly Place and eliminate the idea that the worst problems you should have in life are choosing what to wear to the senior prom.

[Donkey]

What the fuck are you guys thinking????

This is a SELF HELP forum. You don't start bitching about some video someone made. He made it to show what he's been through. You got bullied, fine. He got bullied, and he dealt with it in a different way. You don't have to start fighting him for that.

If you don't like the video, don't watch it. Do you really think it's helping to say that demeaning kind of stuff to Aaron? If you do, maybe you shouldn't be in the advice forums.


Aaron, nice vid. Well done :)

[2D]

aaron just lock the thread... ?

Pretty please?

What the fuck are you guys thinking????

This is a SELF HELP forum. You don't start bitching about some video someone made. He made it to show what he's been through. You got bullied, fine. He got bullied, and he dealt with it in a different way. You don't have to start fighting him for that.

If you don't like the video, don't watch it. Do you really think it's helping to say that demeaning kind of stuff to Aaron? If you do, maybe you shouldn't be in the advice forums.


Aaron, nice vid. Well done :)

Agreed.

[Project Delta]

Cheers Jon.

[Cloud]

aaron cant lock the thread
and this is so stupid. i voice my opinion
it hapens that i have people who agree with me
so what that means start a war???
jeez thats childish
im done with this
oh and yeah stop hiding behind the neg rep. its an opinioin GET OVER IT

[The Batman]

I think all of you are making a big deal out of nothing. People have a right to state their opinions rather you like it or not. Not everyone has to show sympathy at
every post and really they were trying to help. You guys are turning this into a huge fight over opinions.

[2D]

I never negative rep. I just voice myself when I see a negative opinion. XD

[Harley Quinn]

okay so the topic was a what can you change in the vid and its turned into a war of opinions, everyone has a right but some comments are way to harsh IMO

[Raynes]

Nobody demeaned him. Nobody insulted him. All anyone did was post their opinions, and the people who didn't like those opinions began to attack those who posted their opinions. Now this has turned into a "You're so heartless." war. All I did personally is try to explain to him why his video might not be well received, and why others perceived it as attention whoring. This thread is going nowhere. Somebody please put an end to this madness.

[Ripplemagne]

You guys only want the thread locked because you know you can't win. XD

[Sunshine Girl]

What the fuck are you guys thinking????

This is a SELF HELP forum. You don't start bitching about some video someone made. He made it to show what he's been through. You got bullied, fine. He got bullied, and he dealt with it in a different way. You don't have to start fighting him for that.

If you don't like the video, don't watch it. Do you really think it's helping to say that demeaning kind of stuff to Aaron? If you do, maybe you shouldn't be in the advice forums.


Aaron, nice vid. Well done :)

+rep.

[Project Delta]

Actually correction, Calum called me a "Selfish Retard"

[2D]

My mama always said "If you have nothing nice to say, say nothing at all."

[Zazu]

You guys only want the thread locked because you know you can't win. XD

Surely though there should be no winning in an advice thread though? Shouldn't be a debate imo, it should just be a discussion. Whilst there should be some form of conclusion, surely there should be no 'winning'?

[Harley Quinn]

look will everyone take a damn chill pill for a second and actually calm down,come on just leave it and go

[Cloud]

Actually correction, Calum called me a "Selfish Retard"

off site
has no connection here
you flamed on site

[Ripplemagne]

My mama always said "If you have nothing nice to say, say nothing at all."

Then your mother is not very wise. Honesty > What's "nice". As Marcella put it, if we coddle, it encourages bad behavior. If we express honesty, people will more critically analyze a situation and attempt to rectify it.

It's nicer of me to give him perspective than to stay silent and let him self-destruct.

[Raynes]

I didn't read any of Calums posts besides the first few. I suppose he did insult you. But, regardless, I didn't, and the point is still valid, whether everybody is happy with it or not. Everybody has an opinion. There is no reason for this to be a fight.

EDIT: Did Calum insult him or not? Shit, I have no clue. I'm hearing conflicting stories here. I'm not re-reading the entire thread to check, but I never saw a flat out insult.

[nick]

truth hurts darkness but it needs to be said
like now
i felt it was necessarry
and i had alot of people agreeing with me

A lot of people agreed with Hitler, it didnt make him right

But yes basically everyone who ganged up to bully Aaron. At least that how it comes across when you look at everything objectively.

It certainly looks like a planned and coordinated attack and to my mind is the most hateful and nasty thing I've seen on vt. You should all be completely ashamed of yourselves.

What the fuck are you guys thinking????

This is a SELF HELP forum. You don't start bitching about some video someone made. He made it to show what he's been through. You got bullied, fine. He got bullied, and he dealt with it in a different way. You don't have to start fighting him for that.

If you don't like the video, don't watch it. Do you really think it's helping to say that demeaning kind of stuff to Aaron? If you do, maybe you shouldn't be in the advice forums.

Spot on Jon, well said.

[Ripplemagne]

I believe it was more his actions that Calum was insulting. There's a difference between "you're being an idiot" and "you're an idiot".

[2D]

You guys only want the thread locked because you know you can't win. XD

Shouldn't this be about debating and finally understanding each others opinions and not winning? Childish much?

[The Batman]

Really guys get over it. Leave it alone when you post you take that risk that not e everyone will post sweet things. If they don't like it they have just as much of a right to say I like the ones who did like it. But really debates are for ROTW.

[Ripplemagne]

Shouldn't this be about debating and finally understanding each others opinions and not winning? Childish much?

Is right right or is right subjective?

[Triceratops]

As requested, I'm locking the thread.

Although posting content much like this video is bound to raise some kind of level of controversy. There have been plenty of valid comments made against this video, just because they aren't sugar-coated and to your liking does not mean they shouldn't be brought up.

:locked:

[Hyper]

Hmm I'm quite surprised I missed this.. Probably because of the thread name.. I read most topics in the Psych Ward but I post in few.. And I almost never read peoples stories

However I stumbled on this today a month later and now that I read all of it I just have to post in this to send out a message

And being a mod I can post in locked threads so :P

First of all what You should know about me is that I am probably the most straight-forward person VT and the most blunt and reality oriented - if not on VT then on the Psych Ward.

For a loooong time I was the only person who didn't only comfort people, but I told them what I think they did wrong or how their thinking was fucked up wrong.

This thread.. Well it makes me sigh.. The only reason I've stuck around VT is for helping people and finding occasional amusement. The replies here are just disappointing

I believe nothing justifies cutting and that is plain wrong & weak

However the replies here just are surreal.. The first thought that came to mind after I read the amazing bash fest was DOUBLE STANDARD?

Please get real these forums are filled with people who post threads for attention and to hear '' poor you ''.. Why don't I see you guys giving them a reality check? In fact I could at best name the people besides me who do that to EVERYONE EQUALLY maybe on 1-3 fingers.

This site is about help and for some, some crying entitled '' poor you '' is help in the sense that someone cares enough to write that stupid post.

People react differently to different things. You can call me anything you like and I wont cry.. But at the same time there are people who can't take any criticism not to mention verbal abuse.

When you say toughen up and fight back - its true - but how you said it here is just wrong, you weren't handing him a hand and saying '' get up your a man '' you were kicking him in the gut and saying '' what the fuck are you doing? ''

Say whatever you want, that is what happened and that is how anyone would emotionally interpret it.

Point being if your going to '' tell reality to an attention whore '' do it with all of the attention whores. 90% of the people who post in Psych ward are attention whores.

Also please don't come in this forum if you can't understand the pain of others.