Marijuana and Quiting.

[Blazin]

Hey everyone, i'm having a major problem and am going to need some advice. I have been smoking weed for about a year, i'm 16 now. When I started I used to just buy little amounts, but to this day I am buying much larger amounts. I smoke around 4 times a day which to me is normal. I am trying to quit but it is just so damn hard. If I try and go a half-day without it I become really really depressed, to the point where I have teary eyes. Tonight, I was just eating dinner with my mom and I started to get really teary eyed, she asked "Whats wrong?" and I said "I have no idea". I guess that my body now has a dependence on Marijuana and quiting is going to be very hard considering that my body needs for me to not be depressed. I am on hour 18 of being clean and as hours go by my depression gets worse. Can anyone please offer me some advice of what you did to quit, etc.?

[teenanx94]

music, running, some sort of sport. please man just quit. I know drugs I don't use but my couisn does and i don't want it to destroy your life like it's destroyed his.

[mrmcdonaldduck]

this may seem embarrising but just try talk to your doctor about it, he may give you a rehab clinic or something.

[Sapphire]

It's great that you are working towards getting clean. Kicking any addiction is tough and requires a lot of will power and support.

Speak with your doctor about it and he/she can either help directly or pass you on to a third party who can help you better.
Talking with your mum about it will also be of benefit for you as she can support you through your rehabilitation. That goes for some of your friends too.

Hope you are ok

As a footnote, cannabis isn't physically addicting. What you are describing is a psychological addiction.

[sebbie]

Find something to occupy your time, it will help take your mind off it, and if you get enjoyment out of it then you may be able to use that as a replacement for smoking weed.

Also put your spare cash somewhere where it is harder for you to get eg a friend holding it that way it is harder for you to spend it on drugs.

Speaking to a doctor/professionals is also a good idea, they will be able to give you options that can help you stop using anything.

[Antares]

Okay, so it seems like every time someone mentions the word marijuana on this site they start yelling
"IT ISNT ADDICTIVE! YOURE JUST A NAZI!!! I SHOULD BE ABLE TO DO WHAT I WANT! YOU PIG!"

However, this is just an example of someone feeling the same initially and feeliing otherwise now.

So anyways, first I say tell your dealer that you are gonna stop smoking and hopefully they will understand. If you think they won't don't tell them.

Also, get your self busy. Don't sit at home because you will be bored and want to smoke. Just get out. Hang out with some friends, go to a park, whatever. Anything to keep you outside of the place you smoke as much as possible.
Toss out all your weed. And then I think it is just a waiting game as well as a test of your will-power.

Will you be able to overcome yourself and get what you want.
Maybe taking up a new 'addiction' like a food while your body is in these initial stages.

[Sapphire]

Okay, so it seems like every time someone mentions the word marijuana on this site they start yelling
"IT ISNT ADDICTIVE! YOURE JUST A NAZI!!! I SHOULD BE ABLE TO DO WHAT I WANT! YOU PIG!"Er...wtf? Lol.
If that was in reference to the footnote in my post then you took it the wrong way.

[theOperaGhost]

OMG this is a first! Someone actually trying to quit!!!! This makes me so happy!

Now, I have to be honest, I don't know how much of a psychological hold pot has on you, but it seems like you are quite addicted. You need to find something else to do as much of the time as possible. Someone said put away your money. Have self control with your money...it's going to be tough to get pot without money.

[Antares]

Er...wtf? Lol.
If that was in reference to the footnote in my post then you took it the wrong way.

No it wasnt,
I was just generally making the point that usually people are defending marijuana usage with those statements in capitals but for once we have someone that probably defended their usage and now is kinda going back and wanting to stop.

[sasquatch]

ganja, mary jane, whatever you call it, now, dude, I'm really glad that you can come on here and openly ask for advice, definitely shows that you're not paranoid. let's just throw the cat out of the bag here and speak the obvious, i've smoked for nearly 4 years, i know almost all there is to know about the herb and i can tell you that your BODY does not need cannabis, it is not a drug which is physically addictive, such as heroin, if you come off weed, yeh your head feels like shit, but you won't vomit and sweat half your body fluid out. As for rehab, i think they would laugh themselves silly if you went to rehab with a pot problem considering the rising numbers of crack addicts, heroin addicts, etc.

I would be the first person to admit, that it IS psychologically addictive in large amounts, any smoker who's been toking for over a year should admit that, and if they don't they are plain bullshitting.
giving up will not make you shrivel up, it wont kill you, it wont damage your body (obviously it'll save you lungs and heart some aggro). I've met other people in your position, and i feel that for some people, the great irony of the 'erbal is that while it is undoubtably a good antidepressant, that's only when people have it.
I have quit intermittently myself over the four years, 6 month gaps to lift the haze, all it takes is self discipline. fair enough, a HUGE amount of self discipline.

Another VERY important question to raise is what you're smoking with, if you are adding tobacco with it, then it is very likely that that is what is making you feel shitty when you're not smoking it.
Either way, the 'erb isn't for everyone, so if you are having a bad time with it, then seriously dude, grit your teeth and stop because you'll thank yourself for it in the long run.
go for it, don't look back.

feel free to message me mate if you wanna ask anything or talk, and everyone else feel free to send as much hate mail as you like :P

p.s i am not condoning the use of any illegal substances, only offering first hand experience and knowledge.

[Θάνατος]

Like Sapphire has said marijuana is not physically addictive.

You have been given good advice on how to quit. Do other things that will occupy your mind. Read a book, watch TV, go for a run or walk just do something that will take your mind off of wanting to smoke weed.

One thing to remember here is when you are quitting something it takes will power and it also takes a lifestyle change too.

Don't hang with your friends or go the places you went to when you smoked weed.

[theOperaGhost]

Now people, just because it isn't physically addicting doesn't mean withdrawals aren't a bitch. It's going to be painful and tough as hell.

[Kaleidoscope Eyes]

Withdrawals are a symptom of a physical addiction. The things like sweating, vomiting, being shaky, that little voice in the back of your head that says, "I neeeeeed it!" It can be hard still, but it's a mental addicting and even though it may be mentally tough, the body will not suffer from withdrawals. I think that was the issue, we all agree quitting any habit/addiction is hard to do. :)

[theOperaGhost]

I feel that you can get just as bad of withdrawals from things that are mentally addicting than you can from things that are physically addicting.

[WEO]

its like quiting masturbation

[Removed]

If you like it so much try I-Doser, you can buy it... It stimulates marijuana and other "goods"...

http://www.i-doser.com/

[sasquatch]

Like Sapphire has said marijuana is not physically addictive.

You have been given good advice on how to quit. Do other things that will occupy your mind. Read a book, watch TV, go for a run or walk just do something that will take your mind off of wanting to smoke weed.

One thing to remember here is when you are quitting something it takes will power and it also takes a lifestyle change too.

Don't hang with your friends or go the places you went to when you smoked weed.

Sorry to take apart what you just said, but I honestly believe that you SHOULDN'T seperate yourself from your friends and places you smoked, part of quitting it is the Dicipline to still be able to go where you used to, and just say no (dear lord i sound like a government proganda spread :O) If your friends can't respect that you wanna quit then they aren't really very good friends in the first place.

[Sapphire]

Sorry to take apart what you just said, but I honestly believe that you SHOULDN'T seperate yourself from your friends and places you smoked, part of quitting it is the Dicipline to still be able to go where you used to, and just say no (dear lord i sound like a government proganda spread :O) If your friends can't respect that you wanna quit then they aren't really very good friends in the first place.
You clearly don't understand the trials and tribulations of overcoming addictions...

[sasquatch]

I've been addicted to illegally obtained prozac pills for a year, and made myself cold turkey off them, I've quit weed intermittently for 6 months at a time AS I ALREADY STATED. I've been addicted to ketamine for 4 months and cold turkied off that. i've been addicted to the self harm high for 3 years and havn't cut since, about err two years ago?

So don't have the Fucking audacity to tell me i don't know what i'm talking about untill you know me, mmkay?

My friends are what pulled me through all of those times. now go to timeout, go to your room!

[Sapphire]

A timeout? Go to my room? Lol oh you do make me laugh!

Being around people who are doing the drug you are trying to quit makes relapse a whole lot easier.

The fact that you disregard that ^ makes me doubt you when you claim to know what you are talking about.

[sasquatch]

How about because I've been there? OK, So you wanna take the pussy approach to quitting, the self pitying course of action in which you lock yourself away from the world and dwell on how bad it is? yeh sounds like a fucking great idea, nice thinking.

Instead, i generally find that the presence of good friends whp respect your choices, who will stand there by your side and help you through it. the positivity of being able to say a year on, I didn't crawl into a hole, i had the strength and dicipline to NOT live my life around drugs. because that is what your suggestion alludes to. can you not see the irony of your statement?

I'm addicted to drugs, they are taking over my life+I'm quitting now, I'm going to live my live clean and happy no matter how SHIT it makes me feel while I'm doing it. in this way i may be alot stronger as a person when i come out at the end=Drugs out of life

I'm addicted to drugs and I need to quit+I am quitiing, i can't go out and socialize anymore, I've got to stay here, or stay away from my friends. So when i come out of the hard addiction I'm going to have negativity and depression, feel isolated and like I can't socialize because its been hardwired into my brain by the aunguish of quitting by myself= The drugs are still running my life just as much as they ever were because I'm still not living Like a human being should be living.

You watch movies and it's dramatized, human emotion on a REAL level rarely comes into the performance.

Isolation=lack of self dicipline(not lack of strength) but lack of dicipline=sitting doing nothing makes it ALOT EASIER TO RELAPSE.

Socializing and trying to enjoy life despite the shittyness= not trapped in your head, focusing on how shit you feel and dwelling constantly on the need for the drug.

So, you better actually think about what you're saying before you try shoot me down. come back when you have somthing less presumptious to add.

[Sapphire]

Lol, you really are providing the giggles for tonights internet browsing!

I'm not advocating social withdrawal as a way to beat addictions so why are you talking as if I am?

When kicking an addiction the support of those around you is important.

But, I'm saying that being around people who are taking the drug you are trying to quit makes it easier to relapse.
In the first few steps to recovery, people are very susceptible to give into temptation.
It isn't difficult to see that putting people who are only just starting to quit weed in a room full of people smoking it will lead to a much higher rate of relapse than putting them in a room of people not smoking it.

[sasquatch]

*sigh* lets try this again shall we?. The real key to quitting anything is self dicipline. so. be it in a room full of crackheads, smack heads, or just plain pot heads, if they are good friends and you say "I'm quitting" they will resect that, and even if you do say "oh well..maybe-" then they get cut off in mid sentence and none gives them it, reminding them that they have quit it in a friendly manner. been there. done that. got the fucking T-shirt.

Plus, if you have to resort to becking up your argument with things that I've already stated, and therefore obviously know already. Then it seems to be an incredible waste of time and energy for me to read it.

Jog on?

[Sapphire]

Lol. Can you not see that not every group of "drug friends" (for want of a better way of putting it) is going to be that accepting, considerate and friendly?

[sasquatch]

"lol" can you not see that I have already stated that point myself? if you bothered to actually read the posts, you would find this tucked away "I generally find that the presence of good friends who respect your choices"

If this is not the case, then OBVIOUSLY you have to compromise.
As for "drug friends" that is a strong implication that perhaps they are only friends because of the influence of drugs? That is a hugely ignorant attitude towards people in general, let alone people who use drugs.

Now, i will agree that on Drugs such as cocaine and heroin are associated with mistrust amongst friends in some cases. This however is not the in context to Blazins' post. which is about cannabis. every single person I have ever smoked with has had the sensibilities to accept that if someone is quitting they are quitting. because cannabis doesn't cause agression or hate, it causes people to come closer together and try and debate sensibly. (untill you get to the giggling phase)

so please don't assume I'm an idiot because no matter how stubborn you are, this is an argument that i seem to know far more about. have more life experience with. and actually care about more than just trying to gain myself some attention by so bluntly apposing somthing that is logically set out.

[Ripplemagne]

Ding ding.

End of the first round.

And after a grueling contest, Christy's corner has to be happy with what they've just seen. What he has to do is keep up the offense and not let his opponent catch her breath.

Carole's corner can't be too happy with what they've just seen. A failed rope-a-dope has left her reeling on the ropes. If she wants to stay in this thing, she has to stop going for those headbutts and clinching. Her morale has to be low after her offense was completely rejected and her defense couldn't stop the onslaught of Christy's fiery punches.

I have a feeling this one isn't going to go to the twelfth round, but we'll see!

[Viral Death]

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[sasquatch]

Right. I doser...good for you....*slow claps the moron*

[Poetic Folly]

Go a few days without and it the depression will stop, unless there is a bigger reason that you want it so bad.

[tyler_52]

addictions are for the weak minded..... mariuanna is only addictive if you make it addictive.. dont add tobaco in your joints ... just take it plein if you want to skip any addiction

[ZzKingz]

And I thought quitting biting my fingernails was hard lol

[tyler_52]

hmmm .,,, pot isnt addictive ,, unless your just like jim morrison ... someone who likes to be relaxed, you just like it .. and NIDA THE NATIONAL INSTITUTE OF DRUG ABUSE SAYS : " A smoker would theoretically have to consume nearly 1.500 pounds of marijuana within about fifteen minutes to induce a lethal response" so therefore it cant kill you ... unless you can pull off 1500 in 15, now how can you pull that off ,, someone please tell me

[Kaleidoscope Eyes]

Tyler, not only is this a bit of an old thread, but whether or not one is physically capable of overdosing on weed isn't even the topic that was being discussed.

[sasquatch]

Tyler, you sound like a complete idiot, you've replied completely off topic, with appalingly bad syntax, to be frank you sound like the sort of person i encounter at college amongst the first years, someone who smokes purely to get stoned, you don't aprecciate it. I doubt you know anything about the plant, you just ride the band wagon of ignorant people who think they know everything about drugs.

The fact that you are quoting from the "national institute of drug abuse" indicates as much.

It appears to me that you don't want it legalized for the good of mankind, you havn't even considered the consequences of the nagatives of it being legalized, you havn't mentioned any medical benefits, you havn't supported your post with any more evidence. I think that this is probably due to you not being bothered to do it.

Now I think its fair to say that most people on vt know I am an advocate of herb, but I actually post logical arguments in my defence of what i believe is a herb that could really help humanity.



I am NOT an advocate of ignorance, or ignorant people, who have no more knowledge of cannabis then "oh it gets you high" "its not addictive" etc etc.

Also the manner of your post doesn't help. It reads in a rather angry manner, which doesn't help the reputation of smokers, it just makes us look like un-mannered and unintelligent people.

Please, for the sake of the very cause youv have so succesfully undermined, LEARN about the plant, do some actual research, and learn to appreciate this plant, not just get stoned from it.

Now, the lesson begins.

"addiction is for the weak minded" Ok, then what about herion, crack, opiates, ketamine, alcohol, cofee, and nicotine? all of these are addictive substances, all of them are physically addictive and mentally addictive, does that mean that all those who have succumbed to addiction to them are weak minded? no, it is merely the USE of them that has resulted in addiction, and yes, i did add cofee. Yes, it is addictive.

Cannabis Is not Addictive in the same way, but even for those who respect it and aprecciate it..or perhaps espeically for those people, the high that cannabis gives can be very addictive. This does not equal weak mindedness, it simply means that you have been indulging in it too much.
Not being able to break the addiction to it is more relative to weak mindedness...being addicted is simply a by product of overuse.

For your information, cannabis IS psychologically addictive wether you smoke it with tobacco or not. If you only smoke pure weed, through a pipe, bong, or in blunts, the addictive properties of cannabis will make themselves even more apparant as you are smoking more of it.

Now, I would continue to pick apart your post, but in truth i really don't think you're worth the bother.
Post back supporting herb when you actually have enough experience and understanding about it .


peace.

[tyler_52]

i would tell the dealer ... because its just a waste of time ... they dont care about you if you quit on marijuana, thats a lose for them

thats a VERY hard thing to quit .. but you can easily quit if you put that nail coat on it, its like nailpolish but it isnt gay and it tastes bad .. it was made for people to stop biting your fingernails

oops i meant to write wouldNT my bad

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[thedudeman]

i have gone through this as well my friend, no need to panic, you will feel like crap, the next 3 or 4 months will be a loosening of all the emotions you bottled up with that pot for that year, but this will be better for you, its so painful but when its all over you feel very grown up, and mature, and yes you can still smoke once you are through the comedown, just do it not so often, if this happened to you your obviously gunna need to keep a sharper eye on yourself, i just smoked weed today, and now i feel a bit anxious and drowsy but i know it passes within a day

things to help: a hobby, lots of excersise, lots of sleep, a good friend to talk to, new group of friends(who wont make you smoke weed or pressure you) a daily log to talk about what happened, camemile tea, emdr therapy(look it up) if you feel a bit to flustered by your emotions, this stuff does wonders
dont watch stoner flicks, dont talk to potheads, these all lead to smoking, and until your feeling fine smoking will only give you a nasty relapse
if your over 18, and you live in a weed state, i would recommend leaving, oh, remember, you must want to quit

my guide to quitting