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TigerLily
August 5th, 2009, 04:18 PM
http://news.uk.msn.com/world/article.aspx?cp-documentid=148950290&ocid=hotmail

A man accused of killing his 11-year-old diabetic daughter by praying instead of seeking medical care has been found guilty of second-degree reckless homicide.

Dale Neumann, 47, was convicted over the March 23, 2008, death of his daughter, Madeline, from undiagnosed diabetes.

Prosecutors argued he should have rushed the girl to a hospital because she could not walk, talk, eat or drink.

Instead, Madeline died on the floor of the family's rural home as people surrounded her and prayed. Someone called an ambulance when she stopped breathing.

Neumann stared at the jury as the verdict was read out in the courtroom in Wausau, Wisconsin.

Defence lawyer Jay Kronenwetter said they will appeal against the verdict.

Neumann, who once studied to be a Pentecostal minister, testified that he believed God would heal his daughter and he never expected her to die. God promises in the Bible to heal, he said.

"If I go to the doctor, I am putting the doctor before God," Neumann testified. "I am not believing what he said he would do."

The father testified that he thought Madeline had the flu or a fever, and several relatives and family friends said they also did not realise how ill she was.

Leilani Neumann, 41, was convicted of the same charge in the spring.

Requin
August 5th, 2009, 04:25 PM
Wow. That's one way to promote religion certainly.

The Batman
August 5th, 2009, 10:40 PM
People are stupid there was a religious joke saying that God sends us ways to get healed but we are so caught up in other things that we miss it.

Truth
August 6th, 2009, 02:21 AM
Wow. Poor girl..

Sapphire
August 6th, 2009, 03:03 AM
Religion without science won't get you anywhere...Unfortunately these parents have learned the hardest way of all.

tripolar
August 6th, 2009, 03:09 AM
This is what makes religion look bad, when the people take it way to far and think that god can fix everything.

NeoKitai
August 6th, 2009, 09:38 AM
More proof what being over-religious can do in the modern age. I feel sad for the girl, her father is a real idiot.

INFERNO
August 9th, 2009, 06:49 PM
I don't get it, with the religion aside, if your daughter cant talk or drink, then even if it is the flu or a fever, wouldn't that clue you in that perhaps you should do something? Even if it does lead you to put your daughter before someone else other than god, if god isn't helping then shouldn't you try to exert all other methods, such as science?

Perhaps in prison or jail he can see how far praying will get, :lol:.

Camazotz
August 9th, 2009, 07:06 PM
Religion at its worst. There's a fine line between common sense and faith.

The Batman
August 10th, 2009, 09:40 AM
I found the joke I was talking about.

There was a flood in a village.

One man said to everyone, "I'll stay! God will save me!"

The flood got higher and a boat came and the man in it said "Come on mate, get in!"

"No" replied the man. God will save me!

The flood got very high now and the man had to stand on the roof of his house.

A helicopter soon came and the man offered him help."

No, God will save me!" he said

Eventually he died by drowning.

He got by the gates of heaven and he said to God "Why didn't you save me?"

God replied, "For goodness sake! I sent a boat and a helicopter. What more do you want!"

This sums it quite nicely

Viral Death
August 10th, 2009, 11:56 AM
Wow that guys got problems!

Ripplemagne
August 10th, 2009, 07:00 PM
Even though that's a joke (a very humorous one at that), it's sums this situation up quite well.