addicted friend

[Anonymous]

I have a friend, and I do mean a friend, that is addicted to Marajuana and Hash. I don't know how to get him to stop. I do it a bit, but I have it under control. How do I help him?

[Whisper]

He probly thinks he has it under control and you can't MAKE him stop he'll only have a chance of stoping if he wants to you can't force him, I've tried with a girl I know for over 2yrs....Still hasn't worked.


On another note, hey man wassup long time no see :D

[Anonymous]

But I know it's just going to get worse. I know that he's going to go further and further into it, and get into more serious drugs and get hurt. For example. today at my school someone was high, thought they could fly, and broke thier neck. theyre paralyzed now. I don't want anything like this to happen to him

[<-Dying_to_Live->]

if it starts getting out of hand you should tell someone

[phantom420]

I have a friend, and I do mean a friend, that is addicted to Marajuana and Hash. I don't know how to get him to stop. I do it a bit, but I have it under control. How do I help him?

Marijuana and any form of Cannabis is not physically addicting, so he'll be able to stop whenever he's ready. You can't make him stop, if he isn't ready to stop, then don't keep telling him to quit as that gets annoying after a while and could cost you a friend.

[<-Dying_to_Live->]

ya it could cost him his life if he doesnt stop u idiot

[phantom420]

ya it could cost him his life if he doesnt stop u idiot

Nice way of resorting to personal attacks.

Marijuana use alone has not caused any deaths. However, people that don't use it responsibly cause deaths, just like people that don't use alcohol responsibly (IE: driving under the influence).

[<-Dying_to_Live->]

Marijuana use alone has not caused any deaths. However, people that don't use it responsibly cause deaths


SO what is it? does it or does it not casue deaths

[Ravenous]

Btw hash is just a different form of cannabis, not a different drug

[<-Dying_to_Live->]

there is no responsbile way to use a drug that kills your body

[phantom420]

Marijuana use alone has not caused any deaths. However, people that don't use it responsibly cause deaths


SO what is it? does it or does it not casue deaths

No, Cannabis does not cause deaths.

What I meant earlier was, if you drive a car under the influence of cannabis, then you could kill someone but the substance alone has not caused any deaths.

[phantom420]

there is no responsbile way to use a drug that kills your body

The only way Cannabis causes any harm to your body is if it is smoked, it can be ingested. Otherwise, there are no long lasting effects of Cannabis use.

[Shaolin]

Don't worry about Cosmos, he doesn't like it when his argument is shot down with facts.

[<-Dying_to_Live->]

its your word against my word, nothing you can say is proved by fact

[phantom420]

its your word against my word, nothing you can say is proved by fact

Facts (http://www.cannabis.com/untoldstory/hemp_9.shtml)

I know there are more facts out there right now, but I really don't feel like going through 20 pages on erowid, just to prove a dumb fuck like you wrong.

[nwshc]

If you got facts, then show them. If you dont have any and just go on your opinion, then you my friend are the dumb fuck.

[phantom420]

If you got facts, then show them. If you dont have any and just go on your opinion, then you my friend are the dumb fuck.

Did you read the link I posted? Those facts are plenty enough to backup what I said earlier, so there's no need to go into further detail.

[<-Dying_to_Live->]

what facts. i went to that website and saw no facts at all. what i saw was a pooly designed website with the author of ONE PERSON. and a lot of activists and protestors. Are activists and protestors good sources of scientific data? no. thats because they will turn their back to any amount of evidence that goes against what they stand for, no matter how irrefutable it is.

You want real facts compiled from scientific studies all over the globe about marijuana?

i read yours, so you can read mine
http://www.nida.nih.gov/Infofax/marijuana.html

[Shaolin]

You are terribly ignorant Cosmos. Even on the NIDA webpage it says Cannabis causes no toxicity.

No one has ever died from cannabis use. That is a fact, if you don't believe me read your stupid government funded website.

[Shaolin]

"Moreover, research has shown that marijuana’s adverse impact on memory and learning can last for days or weeks after the acute effects of the drug wear off"

That's from NIDA, where does it say that one of it's adverse effects is death?

Those are side effects, and they only happen in people who are very sensitive to the drug or are heavy users.

All cannabis side effects are temporary, no matter how much cannabis is smoked, there is never a permanent effect of it's use.

Also im ready to shoot down your next point, i've left a whole in that argument and if you can find it you might have a good debate issue to use against me!

Somehow i think not.

"You want real facts compiled from scientific studies all over the globe about marijuana? "

Prove this statement is true.

[Shaolin]

If you got facts, then show them. If you dont have any and just go on your opinion, then you my friend are the dumb fuck.

You are the dumb fuck for calling him a dumb fuck when he did infact provide a source for his argument, something you never do.

Cosmos you keep hiding behind the same website, have you got any others?

Your argument is more reliable if you use a variety of sources, one source can easily be biased. Your ignorant if you think one source of information is accurate, especially if it's from "National Institute on Drug Abuse" not "American Journal of Medicine".

[<-Dying_to_Live->]

why dont you go there yourself, adn you can follow the links to numerous other agencies, like the department of health.

[Shaolin]

So tell me...

http://www.talktofrank.co.uk/azofdrugs/C/Cannabis.aspx

Read that website, and compare it to NIDA.

Why does NIDA not mention that only 10% (that's 1 out of 10 people) get psychologically addicted to cannabis (there is no such thing as physical dependancy of cannabis).

Why is it they don't mention positive effects such as "mood life" "creative deep philosophical thinking" "increase appetite" etc

All they seem to do is state what Frank also states, the flip side, the bad side to drugs.

Oh and Frank is a government website, so none of the scientific evidence on ther can be faulty, however it can be biased, just like any other website. Id say frank is more biased to anti-drugs, but atleast they give you the whole picture.

Also frank is not a single person, as you seemed to indicate earlier. It's a metaphor for frank as in to be FRANK, or to be HONEST....

[RickJames]

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[<-Dying_to_Live->]

"Oh and Frank is a government website, so none of the scientific evidence on ther can be faulty, however it can be biased, just like any other website. Id say frank is more biased to anti-drugs, but atleast they give you the whole picture. "

It pains me when you say this. how come any other government website that i or anyone else gives you just strike down as a big government conspiracy whose lying?

[Shaolin]

Sorry im not striking it down, im just trying to point out that alot of the information available to the public can be very biased or one sided when it comes to drug use. A government funded website, would likely be biased.

[<-Dying_to_Live->]

yes, in the direction of not taking drugs. that comes from unbiased scientific research. this research shows how bad drugs are for you, which biases the people into believing they are wrong

[Shaolin]

Uhuh im getting tired of this, care to stop critisizing me and start giving advise?

Ignore something i say if you don't agree with it. And i can't seem to find many posts where your here to help people, you appear to just be following me about and hurling abuse at me, and trying to rally users of this forum against me.

I've warned you already. I don't mind your opinion, just stop getting out of hand and delliberatly attacking me as if this were the debate forum.

Yes i know it's not very responsible of me to reply to your childish arguments, and im going to minimise such behaviour in the future.

Good day!

[<-Dying_to_Live->]

thats because i find you lie about a whole lotta shit, and then try to look like the good guy. see already, apparently im the leader of all evil against all powerful god of knowlege shaolin

[Anonymous]

well I know you guys are having a nice converstaion but he over-dosed. He barely survived. that stopped him!

[Shaolin]

And exactly how does one overdose on Cannabis?

[<-Dying_to_Live->]

an overdose is when you dose too high on something, ie smoke too much of it

[Shaolin]

well I know you guys are having a nice converstaion but he over-dosed. He barely survived. that stopped him!

It's physically impossible to reach a toxic dose, you have to consume a third of your bodys total weight ALL at once, of cannabis to reach a level of toxicity in your blood.

Yes you can smoke too much Cannabis and expreiance unpleasant feelings, and alot of people 'fear' they might die, but when using cannabis, even in incredibly unresponsibly stupidly high doses, it is not a life or death situation, especially for a young person.