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TrekRider0320

August 2nd, 2009, 09:44 PM

You ever find yourself saying "That's so gay" to mean something is stupid or dumb? Yeah? Well...

At one time, gay used to mean to be happy. Now it means someone who is homosexual.
So every time you say "That's so gay" your insulting someone.

Seriously people, how would you like it if someone said "That's so jock who can't even complete a sentence" or "That's so cheerleader that like tries to act all smart" and even "That's so gamer guy who has more video games then friends.

WHEN YOU SAY THAT'S SO GAY, DO YOU REALIZE WHAT YOU SAY? (http://www.thinkb4youspeak.com/)
KNOCK IT OFF (http://www.thinkb4youspeak.com/)

Θάνατος

August 2nd, 2009, 09:50 PM

Nice point. I agree with you.

Maverick

August 2nd, 2009, 09:53 PM

I am gay, yet it doesn't offend me and I'll use that phrase sometimes.

Sapphire

August 2nd, 2009, 09:56 PM

That campaign is a waste of money and time.

I don't know a single gay person who is offended by it. In fact nearly all of them use it!

Bougainvillea

August 2nd, 2009, 10:32 PM

I think he means when people use it as stupid. And they consider you gay. I get what he's putting across. But I don't know anyone who is offended.

The Joker

August 2nd, 2009, 10:36 PM

I am gay, yet it doesn't offend me and I'll use that phrase sometimes.

Change that to bi, and you have my exact thoughts.

ylllek nivyer

August 2nd, 2009, 10:38 PM

sorry guys, i say it alot, but i don't mean it in an offensive way. i think most people who say it don't. if some one said somethin like that about me, i would just laugh. don't be so defensive, that's all i gotta say.

Sapphire

August 2nd, 2009, 10:41 PM

I think he means when people use it as stupid. And they consider you gay. I get what he's putting across. But I don't know anyone who is offended.
We know that he means that because his first sentence reads: "You ever find yourself saying "That's so gay" to mean something is stupid or dumb?" :)

Bougainvillea

August 2nd, 2009, 10:45 PM

We know that he means that because his first sentence reads: "You ever find yourself saying "That's so gay" to mean something is stupid or dumb?" :)

Oh yeah. :P

I think there's another thread on this.
I don't care, though. It's just a word. Not a label.
We're all human.

YourFriend

August 3rd, 2009, 03:03 PM

I am gay, yet it doesn't offend me and I'll use that phrase sometimes.

Same. I don't mind anyone using the word and i use it in that way sometimes.

Cloud

August 3rd, 2009, 03:08 PM

there words
if you get offended by something that nearly everyone says then your not gonna do to well
its pointless trying to change people its like teaching them a new language you may cover it but its gonna end up slipping out its one of those things that happens
get over it

tripolar

August 3rd, 2009, 09:00 PM

Its common language in some places and it would be hard for some people to stop saying it.

Personally i used to say it all the time, but after i started to feel different i don't say it much. Also the friend i mess around with whenever i say anything like that he makes a face.

But now I know it can hurt people and i try not to say "thats so gay" but i slip up sometimes.

thepieman

August 12th, 2009, 04:36 PM

Where I live loads of people use it. I don't personally, but only because it doesn't make sense. I don't get offended by it at all.

The Joker

August 12th, 2009, 10:51 PM

Sometimes I really wonder why it's called gay, it really doesn't make any sense, unless the act is homosexual. But I don't mind anyways/

Kevwee

August 13th, 2009, 12:31 AM

Yeah I understand that a lot of people use that phrase because of something dumb, but I believe when people use it they dont really mean it in that way and that they could possible say something else instead of that.

SlappyTwinkle

August 15th, 2009, 12:57 AM

nice try at being inspirational. http://www.thinkb4youspeak.com/

Sapphire

August 15th, 2009, 03:57 AM

Everyone's thinking it so I'm going to say it....

That campaign is so gay!

:P

Chaos

August 15th, 2009, 04:47 AM

Sapphire

August 15th, 2009, 05:13 AM

Sexual orientation isn't an identity - it is just a part of who you are - so I fail to see how "that's so gay" equates to "that's so blonde bimbo" or similar statements.

Also, where is the campaign against the use of the word naff?
Where is the government pouring money into getting people to use a word other than naff?
If using the non-derogatory word gay in a way that labels something as stupid is so horrendously offensive, then why isn't there a team of people out there who want to eradicate the use of the word naff which actually has a derogatory meaning?

Zero Beat

August 15th, 2009, 08:39 AM

oh oh... yay another thread about this website. I LOVE THE VIDOES SO FUNNY :)

Hay im gay, if someone says something like "Oh thats so gay" i dont really care. if someone said "Oh that is so faggy, like what kinda homo would wear that. urhg. poff"
then i wouldnt be happy but gay pft.

#20 post :P yay

Yesterdays Hero

August 15th, 2009, 11:19 PM

That is a good point, but I am gay and it doesn't offend me.

whitesox94

August 16th, 2009, 05:32 PM

http://www.sneeko.net/images/macros/Thread-Gay-1950s.jpg

Who Cares?

computerwizard

August 17th, 2009, 12:05 AM

someone is really offended by this? You should be more confident in yourself than to be offended by a petty remark like "that's so gay". I don't know anyone else who has said they were offended...it's just slang! Don't take it personally, they aren't saying, "that is stupid, just like gay people." Now that would be offensive.

mr.sexy_bomb

August 18th, 2009, 04:54 AM

dude it is an offence its like saying thats so straight i mean its not directed towards any one but it is an offence to who you are and it sounds imature

Wonder.

August 18th, 2009, 11:39 PM

I think gay people like me use it more than anyone else.

Sapphire

August 19th, 2009, 11:19 AM

Lol, now I know who left me rep saying "You really shouldn't say that. It's insulting. Knock it off."
Grow up.
I don't plan on not using it because you tell me to :)

Modus Operandi

August 20th, 2009, 10:55 AM

A word can have multiple defs, people, get over it.

When someone says this it dosen't nessecairly mean that they are discriminating against gays.

Rutherford The Brave

August 20th, 2009, 11:29 AM

A word can have multiple defs, people, get over it.

When someone says this it dosen't nessecairly mean that they are discriminating against gays.

Yeah but still I mean you can come up with a word that more accuratly describes what has happened. Plus when you say, "oh thats so gay" Unless its refering to some homosexual activities, then it doesnt really make much sense. Like when you get killed in a video game. When you get killed the games characters' sexual prefrences have nothing to do with you being terrible at a game.

Sage

August 20th, 2009, 09:46 PM

I stopped saying 'gay' because it sounds childish, not because I might be offending someone.

Ender

August 20th, 2009, 10:34 PM

I saw a TV commercial for this today

hhhhssssuuuuhhhh

August 21st, 2009, 12:07 AM

and if we are gay and aren't offending ourselves than can we use it?

Modus Operandi

August 21st, 2009, 11:29 AM

Yeah but still I mean you can come up with a word that more accuratly describes what has happened. Plus when you say, "oh thats so gay" Unless its refering to some homosexual activities, then it doesnt really make much sense. Like when you get killed in a video game. When you get killed the games characters' sexual prefrences have nothing to do with you being terrible at a game.

I already said that a word can have MULTIPLE DEFINITIONS!
"Gay" can mean happy, too. Not just homosexual.

Rutherford The Brave

August 21st, 2009, 01:38 PM

I already said that a word can have MULTIPLE DEFINITIONS!
"Gay" can mean happy, too. Not just homosexual.

So? You also wouldnt say oh thats so happy! Stop trying to worm your way out of this. It just doesnt fit into a sentence like that and really no one should use the term in itself.

Sapphire

August 21st, 2009, 01:56 PM

So? You also wouldnt say oh thats so happy! Stop trying to worm your way out of this. It just doesnt fit into a sentence like that and really no one should use the term in itself.I think you'll find it does.
When in the context of "he felt so gay" the word gay is synonymous with happy.
When in the context of "this is the gay bar in town" the word gay is synonymous with homosexual.
When in the context of "that's so gay" the word gay is synonymous with stupid.

In and of itself, the word gay is not offensive or derogatory.
These three separate meanings that have developed over the years are not offensive or derogatory.

So, please enlighten me. Why should any of us not use it?

I also pose the question I stated earlier, why are you all bent out of shape over the use of the word gay in this context but not over the use of the word naff which is actually a derogatory term?

Hyper

August 21st, 2009, 04:38 PM

Modus Operandi

August 22nd, 2009, 04:24 PM

I think you'll find it does.
When in the context of "he felt so gay" the word gay is synonymous with happy.
When in the context of "this is the gay bar in town" the word gay is synonymous with homosexual.
When in the context of "that's so gay" the word gay is synonymous with stupid.

Exactly my point.
If you're offended by this term, OceanChallenger, fine, but I'm trying to make a statement, not start a riot.

Check out UrbanDictionary for more examples of this sort of thing. Normal words can take on obscene definitions. The same thing happened here with "gay" only in reverse.

Rutherford The Brave

August 22nd, 2009, 04:26 PM

Exactly my point.
If you're offended by this term, OceanChallenger, fine, but I'm trying to make a statement, not start a riot.

Check out UrbanDictionary for more examples of this sort of thing. Normal words can take on obscene definitions. The same thing happened here with "gay" only in reverse.

Don't call me out I'm not the only one who will be and is pissed about this.

Sapphire

August 22nd, 2009, 04:47 PM

Don't call me out I'm not the only one who will be and is pissed about this.
Would you care to address any thing I've said or are you just going to ignore me?

Modus Operandi

August 22nd, 2009, 05:25 PM

Don't call me out I'm not the only one who will be and is pissed about this.

I apologize if I offended you then.

Edit: Sapphire, don't get your hopes up for him to respond to you. :p

Rutherford The Brave

August 22nd, 2009, 09:59 PM

Would you care to address any thing I've said or are you just going to ignore me?

Sorry I haven't a care. I mean honestly, despite your "Prowess of the word Gay" It won't be the shield your looking for. Now given your right and well, you think I'm wrong. Let me tell you why. Its called smugness, you use the word gay in its different sense around someone who is really sensative. Then you got yourself a problem no one gives a crap about the other definetions they know they point your trying to get across.

Sapphire

August 22nd, 2009, 10:20 PM

Sorry I haven't a care. I mean honestly, despite your "Prowess of the word Gay" It won't be the shield your looking for. Now given your right and well, you think I'm wrong. Let me tell you why. Its called smugness, you use the word gay in its different sense around someone who is really sensative. Then you got yourself a problem no one gives a crap about the other definetions they know they point your trying to get across.The flexibility of the word gay is important here as it demonstrates that (a) when used in 2 out of the 3 possible contexts it has nothing to do with sexuality and (b) none of the different meanings are offensive or abusive.
Given that and the fact that a persons sexual orientation isn't a persons identity I find it hard to believe that you can still insist that "that's so gay" is offensive to homosexuals.

What do you mean by "Now given your right"?

And what does smugness have to do with using the phrase "that's so gay"? Lol.

Tbh, if someone gets offended by an inoffensive phrase then they need to grow a thicker skin. Using an inoffensive word in an inoffensive context isn't wrong, cruel or abusive.
If someone is using the word gay to insult another then, of course, that is different.

Rutherford The Brave

August 22nd, 2009, 10:25 PM

The flexibility of the word gay is important here as it demonstrates that (a) when used in 2 out of the 3 possible contexts it has nothing to do with sexuality and (b) none of the different meanings are offensive or abusive.
Given that and the fact that a persons sexual orientation isn't a persons identity I find it hard to believe that you can still insist that "that's so gay" is offensive to homosexuals.

What do you mean by "Now given your right"?

And what does smugness have to do with using the phrase "that's so gay"? Lol.

Tbh, if someone gets offended by an inoffensive phrase then they need to grow a thicker skin. Using an inoffensive word in an inoffensive context isn't wrong, cruel or abusive.
If someone is using the word gay to insult another then, of course, that is different.

No no, I mean like I concede. I understand that there are certain people who are thin like paper and will take it the wrong way. I feel bad for them you know, not able to differ between insults and or different concepts. I on the other hand, dont really care I'm aware of the toher definetions. But like I said Im concerned with others and how they take it.

Sapphire

August 22nd, 2009, 10:29 PM

No no, I mean like I concede. I understand that there are certain people who are thin like paper and will take it the wrong way. I feel bad for them you know, not able to differ between insults and or different concepts. I on the other hand, dont really care I'm aware of the toher definetions. But like I said Im concerned with others and how they take it.
Ok, thanks for clearing that misunderstanding up.

However, isn't it up to them to grow a thicker skin if they are likely to be offended by something innocent like this?
They won't get far in life if they don't.

Rutherford The Brave

August 22nd, 2009, 10:30 PM

Ok, thanks for clearing that misunderstanding up.

However, isn't it up to them to grow a thicker skin if they are likely to be offended by something innocent like this?
They won't get far in life if they don't.

QFT it isn't my job and I shouldn't baby them. Still it must be rough living like that.

Cromm

August 24th, 2009, 01:24 AM

My feelings for this entire campaign were echoed much more eloquently (http://www.penny-arcade.com/2009/8/17/) than I could have put it just last week by Mr. Jerry Holkins, a webcomic (http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/) writer and sci-fi author. The gist of it is simple: the message won't reach your target audience because it fails to understand them (http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2009/8/17/).

On a more specific note, with regard to gamers and internet users in general, I belive John Gabriel's Greater Internet Fuckwad Theory (http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2004/03/19/), aptly illistrates that any average individual may not be displaying their regular public venier when using online communications. It is a legitimate idea, if a bit bluntly put, which is more scientifically refered to as: The Impact of Anonymity on Disinhibitive Behavior Through Computer-Mediated Communication (https://www.msu.edu/user/trescami/thesis.htm).

~CC

Archer600

August 24th, 2009, 11:08 PM

Wow u know what I think. the fact that anyone would be ofended by that is so gay! Haha there I said it

tripolar

August 25th, 2009, 12:58 AM

MisterMonster

August 28th, 2009, 03:42 PM

i will not think before i speak
thinking is for nerds and squares
i'l say gay all i want
the only people who don't are gay
and all the jocks can't complete sentances
honestly, that's so gay.

i say thats so gay a lot. I don't find it offensive but i'm sorry if i say it to someone who does. The thing above is a satire by the way, if you don't get it

TexasRangersKid

August 29th, 2009, 09:28 AM

i find myself saying that even without thinking, its like OMG we say it and its blasfamy but we do it instinctively

themanwhoneverwould

August 29th, 2009, 12:47 PM

I know gay people who use this phrase, but what really really annoys me is when people openly say how they think homosexuality is wrong! Especially when it comes from the 'religious' kid in school! It deeply offends me even thow i am not 100% on what sexuality i am! I think homophobia is just as bad as racism!

MisterMonster

August 31st, 2009, 09:39 PM

I think homophobia is just as bad as racism!
Cos it is. You've got to feel sorry for the Arab Gay kid.
If you're arab and bisexual though everyone loves you

Sapphire

September 3rd, 2009, 05:07 PM

The examples in here are examples not racist.

Everyone that says "thats so gay" or "that teacher is such a homo" and then says gay doesn't mean that I'm being mean to gay people.

well...

The "N" word means ignorant but if you walk around saying "that's so nigger", or "that teacher is such a nigger" and then say i meant ignorant not black people, and absolutely no one will find that appropriate at all.

I'm not gay but anything derogatory should not be used towards anyone.The "n" word on it's own is a derogatory word and it retains that regardless of the context in which it is used. I have yet to come across people who think that using the "n" word at all is ok.

However "gay" is not a derogatory word and is not derogatory in the context of "that's so gay", "this is the gay part of town" or "he felt so gay".

That is the huge and inescapable difference.

Modus Operandi

September 3rd, 2009, 05:24 PM

The "n" word on it's own is a derogatory word and it retains that regardless of the context in which it is used. I have yet to come across people who think that using the "n" word at all is ok.

However "gay" is not a derogatory word and is not derogatory in the context of "that's so gay", "this is the gay part of town" or "he felt so gay".

That is the huge and inescapable difference.

^Exactly.

"Gay" is a statement of sexuality, the n word is only a derogatory term and nothing more, other than incredibly racist.