Is PETA Right???

[ZzKingz]

I think animals have the right to be happy, but is PETA going too far with them? I think some of the things they say is crap...

[ackmedsgirl666]

agreeed
two of my good friends campaign for peta
i do enjoy eating all meats(but pork) but i do feel that they do take their ramblings too far and in the end they look like the idiots( the even campaigned peta the day of our school bbq( and there was burgers and hotdogs)
sadly i ended up having to buy a veggie burger instead of a regular burger- i wish i hadn't give into to PETA pressure

[Reality]

I don't know much about PETA, but I support some of the things I've read about that they advocate or fight against. However, some of their viewpoints and actions appear to be somewhat "extreme" to me, and I don't agree with extremism in anything.

I agree that animals have the right to happy, safe and kept away from every form of cruelty there is. I also dislike farming animals, but I can't say too much about that, because I eat meat myself, but I'm completely okay with hunting if it's for survival reasons and you or your family is actually going to eat/use that animal, animals themselves do this, but not hunting for sport/fun, that's just sick.

[Bougainvillea]

I'm with PETA on some things. But the fact is, we've been hunting and eating animals for hundreds of years. It's not going to stop. I'm against hunting and cruelty. But we still need to eat.

We are the hunters, they are the hunted.

[Camazotz]

I stand against PETA. I treat all animals with respect, but that's not what PETA's about. They are extremists; they support total animal liberation. They want all animals to roam free. They burn down animal testing labs. They use violent tactics to get their point across.

Watch this episode of Penn and Teller's:Bullshit. (I've watched this episode several times and have never been more angry at an organization pretending to be protective)

Part 1: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NAt1z_TgPQ4&feature=related

Part 2: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eqlF2rvcYIs&feature=related

Part 3: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KsMjgnLxFRw&feature=related

Part 4: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hgZ0dSiTGdI&feature=related

[YourFriend]

I think they are going to far. Animals are animals after all.

[Hyper]

Most activists make me laugh or don't reach me at all..

But above all else I despise extremists.

[tripolar]

I agree with some of PETA's stances. I got a DVD from a PETA stand and it is burned into my mind forever. It was about why meat is wrong to be eaten it was one of most bloody and horrific movies i ever saw, im no vegetarian but i questioned meat.

PETA went to far when they wrote a letter to President Obama about flies. During an interview a fly was flying around and when it landed he killed it but PETA did not like that and sent hm a letter about killing flies.

[INFERNO]

PETA I'm not a fan of. They're for animals which is nice but then they turn around, destroy something where animals probably are and then they shout "yay, support animals"... the animals they just killed... yes support them. I don't care for PETA.

But some other reasons why I don't care for them is the fact that they want people to turn against eating animals by showing clips from slaughter houses. They show the animals gets killed in some way. Well, it's a slaughter house, you expect the animal to be killed and you expect it to be fairly packed and probably not the best hygeine.

One other reason though, which I find to be one of the biggest kickers is that they themselves take in animals. No problem there. However, when they're too full, they kill some of the animals. Funny, thought that was something they have videos of and advocate against... .

Overall, I'm against them.

[Cromm]

Extremes of any direction more often than not create zealots. That's what PETA is, a batch of zealots and people who don't realize the people around them are zealots.

PETA want's animal rights to be equal to human rights; and that's just silly... but they then take this view to the furthest extreames imaginable. Some of the stunts they've pulled in the past are dispicable, and morally reprehensible!

Some of the crap they've pulled has ranged from the mildly humorous, to the plain stupid:

- They suggested Ben & Jerry's use human breast milk, instead of cow's milk
- They handed out bloody, graphic pamphlets entitled "your mommy kills bunnies" to school age children; and
- They compared poultry farming to The Holocust of Jews in nazi Germany.

They most definatly do NOT have my support.


Even if they didn't pull the stunts they do, I don't support animal 'rights'. I DO support animal 'welfare' advocates. I give money to the humane soicieties and animal shelters... but the 'rights' people just go a bit too far.... And PETA is by far the worse.

[Bougainvillea]

It's nice when they try and improve living conditions and such. But like Cromm said, give them human rights? Unacceptable. Stopping cruelty is one thing, but attacking the public and trying to stop human nature is something else.

[Whisper]

People Eating Tasty Animals is just like your average animal or environmental movement
WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY the fuck out there
I agree that cosmetic companies and what not should not use animals PERIOD, Iams for instance treats dogs like shit in there R&D
which is horrible

But when they start demanding Ben and Jerry's uses human breast milk in all its ice cream....riiiite

[ZzKingz]

Camazotz those videos completely pissed me off. PETA really thinks they can compare the HOLOCAUST to EATING MEAT??!! Oh my GOD!

Im a vegetarian, but not for the animals anymore. Go watch Happy Tree Friends, PETA! YOU'LL LOVE IT!

House burning down,
Z

[marty]

PETA went too far when they asked Ben and Jerry's to make their ice cream exclusively with breast milk.

To which Ben and Jerry's responded "no."

[Reality]

There's nothing WRONG with using milk from a cow, as it doesn't hurt the animal at all, it actually relieves it..

RSPCA > PETA

[Bougainvillea]

Yeah, but the operation of obtaining that milk is terrible.

[Reality]

Yeah, but the operation of obtaining that milk is terrible.
How d'ya mean?

[Bougainvillea]

They hook those cows up to machines for hours. In pins that don't allow them to move, at all. It's painful to them. They force those cows to eat and drain them. I understand why they want to change that. But I do agree that breast milk is going too far.

[Reality]

They hook those cows up to machines for hours. In pins that don't allow them to move, at all. It's painful to them. They force those cows to eat and drain them. I understand why they want to change that. But I do agree that breast milk is going too far.
That's horrible. I was thinking about milking cows, as in how they do it themselves manually.. where the person milks the cow themselves on the fields. :P

[Bougainvillea]

Hell no. Most of those cows die. And that's where McDonalds comes into play. Most of McDonald's meat is dairy cows. They either already dead or dying from malnutrition or poor living conditions of those facilities.

[ZzKingz]

PETA went too far when they asked Ben and Jerry's to make their ice cream exclusively with breast milk.

To which Ben and Jerry's responded "no."

they go too far when they burn down buildings.

Freaking terrorists!

they have a bumper sticker that says:
SAY NO TO POT (Roast)
Don't be a MEAThead! Kill the habitat!!!

WTF? They're saying pot roast is worse than pot???

WOW.
Please don't double or triple post just use the edit button to add more to it. ~Thomas

[Bougainvillea]

First. Don't double post.

And they're not saying it's worse.
It's more of a joke in my opinion.

[Church]

I think PETA's motives are right but they carry them out in kinda wacko ways, I dont think animals should be abused but I also support killing animals for food, thats how nature works.

[marty]

they go too far when they burn down buildings.

actually, PETA doesn't sanction the burning of buildings. That's the ALF, the animal liberation front. I assume that the majority of members of the ALF are also proud PETA members, however, PETA does not burn down buildings. They wouldn't be a tax exempt company if they did

[Antares]

Obviously, you should be humane towards animals, but sometimes PETA takes it too far.
They have good intentions, they just need to relax because accidents happen, and somethings need to be done.

[Whisper]

I also don't trust allot of the "humane" alternatives
r-udsIV4Hmc

[ZzKingz]

Obviously, you should be humane towards animals, but sometimes PETA takes it too far.
They have good intentions, they just need to relax because accidents happen, and somethings need to be done.

Actually they want animal liberation.

They raise awareness, but we can't have animals just walking around, breaking our laws, killing people, raping other animals, fighting, stealing, and then getting away with it. There would be animal court, animal prison, animal asylums, and it would be madness.

on a lower scale they have good intentions. :-)

I personally think everyone should be a vegetarian and not wear fur, because thats reasonable and i personally had no problem with going veggie. :) but asking others to go vegan doesn't make sense. im not giving up dairy just because some peta member shows me a horrific video. Universal vegetarianism would mean universal health, and a good world.

For animal testing, i think thats a mixed issue. i think its wrong to test on animals for cosmetics.
But, lets say i have diabetes. i can't live without animal testing. what will i do? die for some lab-rat's well being?
Animal testing SAVES LIFES. Lab-rats care, of course, but they don't matter that much.

I think the entertainment issue is ridiculous. So what if an animal has to perform for people??? People do it all the time! dressing up a dog and making it jump through hoops isn't cruel!
But, what happens behind the stage isn't fun.

In conclusion, i think that PETA is right in small areas, but for the most part, dead wrong.




What does double post mean?

[Bougainvillea]

We've eaten animals for a LONG time. They've eaten eachother for even LONGER. You can't change nature.

[Whisper]

We've eaten animals for a LONG time. They've eaten eachother for even LONGER. You can't change nature.

See that's an invalid argument
because that's in nature they're free to roam and do w/e they want, the chances of escaping a predatory are actually really high
they have clean living conditions, fresh water, etc...

Your modern feedlot, chicken farm, hog farm is anything but natures way
the olden style farms are long gone
its sickening whats done now

I have a friend who is a HARDCORE carnivore like just ya wooow
he worked at a hog farm
and he doesn't eat pig anymore really
like after working there and seeing it and dealing with it
how they were treated like the force feeding which killed allot of them
the kicking and electrocution
killing baby pigs with a hammer, etc.....
just ya

seriously go walk through a feedlot or a processing plant for any major meat source (pig, chicken, cow, etc..)
I dare you (i've seen them)
then come talk to me

[Bougainvillea]

Yeah. I understand.
If you read my posts in the PETA thread by Reality, that's exactly what I said. But about dairy farms.
I understand the difference your putting across. :)

[Jean Poutine]

Although I am a right-wing asshole, I care much more about animals and am much less of a pessimist about them than humans.

I have trouble smacking flies. I generally don't have that kind of reservation about humans.

That being said...

PETA are a bunch of little eco-terrorists and they can go stuff themselves.

Farmer markets FTW. Processed meat is lol

[punkjake]

Well i don't agree with animal testing or abuse.But some are ment to be eat,1.It helps the population which sometimes even helps the environment(cows farting causes global warming XD)2.With out REAL meat our bodys would be weak,beans are meant to be beans and bread,there good for you but why not just eat the real stuff? But they are to extreme like burning down labs,and ect but we have no right to test but we can eat them

[ylllek nivyer]

Hell no. Most of those cows die. And that's where McDonalds comes into play. Most of McDonald's meat is dairy cows. They either already dead or dying from malnutrition or poor living conditions of those facilities.

mmm, gotta love McDonalds. lol.

PETA... oh god. they are a bit dramatic in my opinion.

[Whisper]

every entertaining organization is though when you think about it

Sea Shepherd for instance
http://tokyo5.files.wordpress.com/2009/02/shepherd.jpg
I love them <3

off topic i know
sorry

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typo

[ZzKingz]

some animals are stupid. Flies CAN'T have equal rights as people. they'll just buzz around.

flies make me laugh. they find their way into an open tent or something, but then can't figure out how to get out lol

[ZzKingz]

im actually kind of sick of being flipped off for drinking milk. wtf no honey or yeast, thats cruelty? im goin down to kitchen right now to scarf down some bread, milk, honey, and *cooked* eggs.

[Donkey]

PETA is just meh. We eat meat, as Chris said it's nature. Can't defy nature.

That was one day off a 1 month bump XD