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teendude_1991
July 22nd, 2009, 08:16 PM
I heard somewhere that one of the theories about what could make someone gay is that when a mother is pregnant, if she is under stress, negative hormones can influence the fetus, imbibing them basically with a "gay gene". It was something like this, and I don't know the specifics, but I know my mother was put under stress while I was in the womb, what about you guys? Thoughts?

tripolar
July 22nd, 2009, 08:19 PM
I heard somewhere that one of the theories about what could make someone gay is that when a mother is pregnant, if she is under stress, negative hormones can influence the fetus, imbibing them basically with a "gay gene". It was something like this, and I don't know the specifics, but I know my mother was put under stress while I was in the womb, what about you guys? Thoughts?

No offense but, That sounds like crap, "Oh honey don't get stressed or the baby will be gay". come on, that just sounds so unbelievable its unbelievable. Were did you hear this from.

teendude_1991
July 22nd, 2009, 08:24 PM
I don't remember, but I thought it would lend credence to being born gay. I personally believe people are born gay, and it fit the theory because I like guys and my mom was under stress.

scuba steve
July 22nd, 2009, 08:29 PM
No offense but, That sounds like crap, "Oh honey don't get stressed or the baby will be gay". come on, that just sounds so unbelievable its unbelievable. Were did you hear this from.

it does sound like balls to be honest it's completly your own choice, everyone gets curious and some like it more than others

The Batman
July 22nd, 2009, 08:42 PM
it does sound like balls to be honest it's completly your own choice, everyone gets curious and some like it more than others

It's not a choice either it's just something your born with that you have no control over. It's sorta like which hand is dominate you can either be born left handed(gay), right handed(straight), or ambidextrous which is both(bisexual).

scuba steve
July 22nd, 2009, 08:47 PM
i have heard of people getting their genes mixed up during pregnancy as when your first fertilised and all that crap your a girl and some natural programs like you like men stays when the fetus changes to a boy and all that junk, but you honestly can't say that everyone is homosexual etc because of this there must be some personal preference

Antares
July 22nd, 2009, 08:52 PM
i have heard of people getting their genes mixed up during pregnancy as when your first fertilised and all that crap your a girl and some natural programs like you like men stays when the fetus changes to a boy and all that junk, but you honestly can't say that everyone is homosexual etc because of this there must be some personal preference

I didn't understand that.
Can you re...explain or whatever :P

I personally think that sexuality isn't hereditary. Its just...embedded within you from childhood.
There also is some...outside influences too but its mainly the latter

scuba steve
July 22nd, 2009, 08:57 PM
I didn't understand that.
Can you re...explain or whatever :P

I personally think that sexuality isn't hereditary. Its just...embedded within you from childhood.
There also is some...outside influences too but its mainly the latter

if your just a bit hazy about what i said when you are first fertilised you are a girl first then you can change to a male, i don't know the full details but it's why men have nipples

The Batman
July 22nd, 2009, 09:49 PM
Um no our gender is based upon the sperm. There are two types in of sperm in guys, one is a girl and the other is a guy the one that makes it there first is your gender. I learned this year in biology.

The Joker
July 22nd, 2009, 10:01 PM
Well, it makes some sense. My mom was so sick that no one believed she was pregnant, even in her last month.

JimSauce
July 23rd, 2009, 03:46 PM
Um no our gender is based upon the sperm. There are two types in of sperm in guys, one is a girl and the other is a guy the one that makes it there first is your gender. I learned this year in biology.

Skuba steve is right, and I also learned what he said in biology and on a credible science website (article about why males have nipples).

We all start out as females and either stay female or change into a male, while retaining certain female traits. Nipples are one of them. (That's why nipples serve no use to males other than sexual stimulation--because they were meant for females.) It's sort of cool knowing that I was a girl once. :wub:

You're right that gender is based on sperm, but it's not as simple as "Race to the Ovary!"

The Batman
July 23rd, 2009, 03:56 PM
It kinda is dude, like I said before there are two types of sperm an X and Y but the egg only carries an X so which ever sperm makes it there and pairs with the egg is the gender your going to be. You just can't start off as an XX and then magically becomes XY the Y chromosome has to come from somewhere and the X chromosome can not simply convert into it.

At conception, gender is determined by chromosome characteristics - and it will be the male
(or rather the male's sperm) that dictates whether the baby will be a boy or a girl.

Prior to conception, the unfertilized egg carries an X chromosome while the sperm can carry either an X or a Y chromosome. The gender of the baby comes down to one simple event:

If the sperm carrying an X chromosome fertilizes the egg, a girl will be conceived.

If the sperm carrying a Y chromosome fertilizes the egg, a boy will be conceived. found at http://www.baby2see.com/gender/index.html

And to explain why we have nipples is pretty hard because no one really knows it's just one of those things that have a lot of guess to it. But this is a pretty good explanation.

The answer is that as embryos men and women have similar tissues and body parts. If anything the embryo follows a 'female template'. That is why nipples are present in both sexes. It is the effect of the genes, the Y chromosome and the hormone testosterone that brings about the changes and masculinises the embryo. Testosterone promotes the growth of the penis and testicles. Because nipples are there before this process begins the nipples stay!

Found at http://menshealth.about.com/od/conditions/a/Nipples_Men.htm

The Harlequin
July 23rd, 2009, 07:59 PM
it does sound like balls to be honest it's completly your own choice, everyone gets curious and some like it more than others

Let's face it ~ with all the negative prejudice surrounding homosexuality what reasonably right-minded person would CHOOSE to be gay? To CHOOSE to have to come out and risk losing their friends and family support?

That is ludicrous...
Sorry, it just doesn't make sense, mate...

rubidoux
July 23rd, 2009, 08:15 PM
I'm sure it's a possibility, but I think most pregnant mothers are under considerable stress, especially if it's their first child. I know the idea of pregnancy of childbirth scares/stresses me out a lot and it hasn't even happened to me yet.

Serenity
July 23rd, 2009, 08:31 PM
To the OP:

Significant findings at the Brigham Young University in the USA indicate that stress during pregnancy can result in homosexual offspring. Dr D. E. Fleming and Dr R. W. Rhees, in experiments, subjected pregnant rats to psychological, nutritional and hormonal stress and then measured the behavioral characteristics of their male offspring. The results were compared to "normal" offspring of unstressed rats. "We found demasculinization and feminization tendencies," reported Dr Fleming. "Demasculinization, in that the test rats were not as active sexually in the male role; feminization was found where the males exhibited female-type behavior when placed with other males who were sexually aggressive. We are exploring possibilities that may have relevance to humans."

http://chestofbooks.com/health/natural-cure/Ross-Horne/Health-and-Survival-in-the-21st-Century/Homosexuality-Part-2.html

MoveAlong
July 23rd, 2009, 08:41 PM
it does sound like balls to be honest it's completly your own choice, everyone gets curious and some like it more than others

No it is not your own choice. It is not. I did not choose this. I didn't choose something that would make me unable to be truthful to my friends. I didn't choose to be gay so I'd have to hide it or else I'd lose some of the best people in my life because they think I should go to hell.

Serenity that's interesting

Serenity
July 23rd, 2009, 08:43 PM
Serenity that's interesting

I thought so, too.

Honestly, though, I think it's crap. In my Psych class last year, my teacher talked to us about false correlations- just because two things happen to increase together, like, say, a mother's stress during pregnancy and the likelihood that her child will be homosexual, doesn't necessarily mean that either has anything to do with the other.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Correlation_does_not_imply_causation

MoveAlong
July 23rd, 2009, 08:45 PM
yeah I agree, you do sometimes see that and people make the wrong assumptions.

Schon
July 24th, 2009, 01:49 AM
No offense but, That sounds like crap, "Oh honey don't get stressed or the baby will be gay". come on, that just sounds so unbelievable its unbelievable. Were did you hear this from.

dont be hat'n... but that does sound totally retarded. no no, as far as i am concerned, that is crap... i would definetley NOT beleive that.EDIT
i didnt read the entire thread, until after i posted and saw Serenity's post, perhaps this is true?

The Harlequin
July 24th, 2009, 05:26 PM
Well there's no doubt my mum was most stressed with me ~ my dad was having an affair ~ and I'm bisexual so maybe... I dunno...

Bu then the divorce happened just after I was born so maybe not...

Atonement
July 24th, 2009, 06:05 PM
Though Serentity's quote is interesting, I find that could it simply be a coincidnece and not a medical or actual occurrance?

The Joker
July 24th, 2009, 08:33 PM
Well there's no doubt my mum was most stressed with me ~ my dad was having an affair ~ and I'm bisexual so maybe... I dunno...

Bu then the divorce happened just after I was born so maybe not...

That means that before you were born all the stress was about to culminate.

YourFriend
July 25th, 2009, 01:00 PM
I doubt that.

Drusilla Rules
December 5th, 2009, 01:21 PM
nothing really makes u gay i gay one day some people just see guys in another way and if ur bi u do the same but still like women as well

nothing really makes u gay i gay one day some people just see guys in another way and if ur bi u do the same but still like women as well

and some people just experiment as well

*Please use the edit function to add to your post instead of posting twice in a row, thank you. ~Kaleidoscope Eyes*

mexa
December 5th, 2009, 03:26 PM
It's not a choice either it's just something your born with that you have no control over. It's sorta like which hand is dominate you can either be born left handed(gay), right handed(straight), or ambidextrous which is both(bisexual).

i must disagree with the hands thing, if youre trying to say that people that are left handed are gay by "default" thats totally wrong. Ive met many left handed persons that are straight all the way and not every right handed person is straight (myself being very curious).

I think sexuality is a choice, its not a mental disorder, its not a disease or illness like some religions say (no offense religious persons), its just a decision you make about half-way through your life based on your experiences around other people.

well thats just my opinion...

Kaleidoscope Eyes
December 5th, 2009, 03:41 PM
I think the left-handed/right-handed thing was intended as a metaphor.

In any case, this thread is several months old, please don't bump old threads.
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