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Death
July 21st, 2009, 12:18 PM
I've heard that there have been therories about the 1969 Moon landing being a hoax and it was filmed in a studio due to certain errors in the video. Likewise, I've heard that people have dispelled these 'errors' and show that they are not errors at all for various scientific reasons.

So, what do you think? Did man land on the moon? Or was this all one great and false cover up? Most importantly, why? What evdidence do you have with which to support your opinion?

Camazotz
July 21st, 2009, 01:00 PM
Of course we landed on the moon.

Here are 8 moon landing hoax myths and why they are false.
http://www.elegant-universe.webs.com/moonlanding.html

ILoveMeLikeUDon't
July 21st, 2009, 01:16 PM
no because if there isn't wind on the moon why was the american flag moving. second the pitures they tooc the croosses in them they r suppoes to be on top of the object except alot of them are cover. the foot prints look like they are made in area 51 if u want more reasons pm me

lamboman43
July 21st, 2009, 01:21 PM
no because if there isn't wind on the moon why was the american flag moving. second the pitures they tooc the croosses in them they r suppoes to be on top of the object except alot of them are cover. the foot prints look like they are made in area 51 if u want more reasons pm me

"You can tell Apollo was faked because ... the American flag appears to be flapping as if "in a breeze" in videos and photographs supposedly taken from the airless lunar surface.

The fact of the matter is ... "the video you see where the flag's moving is because the astronaut just placed it there, and the inertia from when they let go kept it moving," said spaceflight historian Roger Launius, of the Smithsonian's National Air and Space Museum in Washington D.C." From Camazotz link!

Death
July 21st, 2009, 01:22 PM
The US flag flapped, not because of wind, but because of the momentum created when it was forced into the ground. It would have been pushed about and it would move back and forth for a good while because there's no air resistance. As for the footprints, the moon dust is not like sand. Sand molecules have been weathered and are consequently quite soft and they don't really stick in any particular shape and so no strong print can form. On the moon however, the dust molecules are stronger and sharper from lack of weathering and simply ue to the fact that's its a dfferent material and so it sticks in a shae a lot better allowing for excellent prints.

JackOfClubs
July 21st, 2009, 02:15 PM
Of course we did, there is so much to back it up, more so now that NASA has put the remastered footage on their website. And, besides, Mythbusters tested this myth already lol :D And the flag is moving due to the momentum created by the energy coming from astronaut putting it there.

Footage (Clicky!) (http://www.nasa.gov/multimedia/hd/apollo11.html)

Θάνατος
July 21st, 2009, 02:19 PM
Yea we landed on the moon. There is way too much evidence that proves that we did.

This makes for a good debate.

Death
July 21st, 2009, 04:03 PM
Mythbusters tested this myth already lol :D

I saw that one! :D They busted every single Moon Conspiracy myth!

JunkBondTrader
July 21st, 2009, 04:05 PM
I used to think not but I can see sense now. Name any major event and someone will have a crackpot conspiracy about it.

Death
July 21st, 2009, 04:22 PM
Crackpot conspiracy? Quite a strong believer arn't you. What I want to know is what evidence you and everyone else have for believing (or disbelieving) that we landed on the moon?

Bluearmy
July 21st, 2009, 05:47 PM
Of course we landed on the moon. To think that the whole thing was just shot from a studio on Earth is absolutely ridicules. I can't say the only reason such a conspiracy was even thought up was because somebody just wanted to downplay the efforts of NASA. Sometimes it can look rather fake, but the evidence stands clear, we did land on the moon. You can't take that away from us.

INFERNO
July 22nd, 2009, 02:59 AM
I do believe that we did for a few reasons. First, the reasons against having landed on the moon have been disproven time and time again. The only other options are we landed on another planet or we landed on the Moon. Second, what would be the purpose of having the moon landing as a hoax be (assuming it actually was a hoax)? Millions of dollars would have been spent for a few minutes of laughter? Seems rather unlikely to me. Third, I do believe that various samples were taken from that initial landing that may be used to show that it's physical structure and composition is not typical of material on Earth.

So overall, I do believe that we did land on the moon.

Sage
July 22nd, 2009, 03:40 AM
Second, what would be the purpose of having the moon landing as a hoax be (assuming it actually was a hoax)?

Cold War.

mrmcdonaldduck
July 22nd, 2009, 03:48 AM
of course we landed there, watch the mythbusters man.

Skeln
July 22nd, 2009, 12:04 PM
If we didn't land on the moon and they tried to fake it then like Inferno said the government would have spent alot of money just trying to prove that they did. Also, their will always be those who come up with ideas that they think are true. Just like Y2K people started believing that the world was going to end because of a computer problem. Y2K was real but it was the fact that they had to reprogram computers to work properly in the year 200 and beyond because the computers back then weren't built for that or something along those lines.

Point is, people always take one little detail they see and they use it to make up some crazy idea that's so crazy it must be true.

ManyPearTree
July 22nd, 2009, 12:30 PM
Yes, we landed on the moon. There is no possible way the government would be able to cover up something this huge. On Google Earth you can zoom in on the little spaceship (Apollo 11?) that is on the moon.

I doubt that all pilots in the spaceship that exploded-while going to the moon- were being paid to commit suicide to divert the the attention of the world from the moon landing "conspiricy" just to give NASA a reason for "delaying" all future takeoffs.

It does not make sense to conspire about it.

anime Freak
July 22nd, 2009, 03:13 PM
mythbusters did a special on this and proved that all of the conspiricy theorys were false

ShatteredWings
July 22nd, 2009, 04:27 PM
Beyond mythbusters...

Why would our government be funding an organization which HAS the shuttles that does everything as a hoax?

Death
July 22nd, 2009, 04:52 PM
Some good points (a lot of them anyway) here and I must say that I agree. It seems a little far-fetched to assume that such an event would be faked. Besides, did we not see the spaceship fly off? And how come we're able to get signals back from the reflective things (don't remember their actual name) that were left on the moon (in a specific location we know of)?

Zephyr
July 23rd, 2009, 01:43 AM
For anybody who doesn't believe that we did, I highly suggest you go visit the Kennedy Space Center in Florida. Amazing place. I've gotten to see moon rocks and outdated space crafts first hand in their museum. If memory serves me right, there's an entire section there dedicated to the moon landing with evidence of being there.

Did you know that the last time some conspiracy theorist tried to tell Buzz Aldrin that it was all a hoax, he simply punched the guy in the face? If I was in his shoes, I would have mutilated the guy. Those men put their lives on the line going on such a mission, and to have all of these conspiracy theorists trying to tear down their accomplishments achieved in sheer bravery is crap.

I've seen and heard way too much to be convinced that we didn't land on the moon. The evidence is there, the theories are disproven with excellent reason, I suggest if you don't believe it that you look up the stories and witness the evidence in person like I have.

Reality
July 23rd, 2009, 11:12 AM
I believe it did happen. I can see why people think it may have been a hoax, though, and the circumstances around it, such as the Space Race of the Cold War, but if it was fake, it probably would have been well confirmed by now, and not with fallible conspiracy theories, either.

Also, there's been quite a few (about 6-7) missions to the Moon since 1969, so yeah, I just doubt it's fake. Possibly, yes, but I doubt it.

I think it's funny that nobody's ever doubted USSR's Yuri Gagarin's first flight into space as a conspiracy theory, yet plenty of people doubt the first Moon Landing.

ThatCanadianGuy
July 23rd, 2009, 02:46 PM
I can't believe this is even an issue that's worthy of an entry here (sorry OP, not your fault). The sheer number of moon-hoaxers that are still around is very sad.

Death
July 23rd, 2009, 03:49 PM
Did you know that the last time some conspiracy theorist tried to tell Buzz Aldrin that it was all a hoax, he simply punched the guy in the face?

Although I may agree with the belief of the moon landing being real, all they are doing is showing how thuggish which may lead to people believing that they are lying even though I believe that they ar not.

If I was in his shoes, I would have mutilated the guy.

And that makes you better than him?

I can't believe this is even an issue that's worthy of an entry here (sorry OP, not your fault). The sheer number of moon-hoaxers that are still around is very sad.

No offense taken; although the last bit may have caused if it wasn't for the fact that I agree with the concept.

I can see why people may call it a hoax, but to continue trying to prove that its all fake when they are faced with irrefutable evidence (like that on Mythbusters) simpy leads to ignorance.

quartermaster
July 24th, 2009, 03:46 AM
Another interesting component as to whether the moon landing was faked is the Soviet question. What must not be understated is the fact that the Soviet Union was watching this operation with the utmost attention, and thus, it is highly likely that if any such hoax were to have occurred, the USSR would have known about it. Indeed, no credible evidence suggests that the Soviet Union doubted the American landing on the moon. It is with this information, and other such information already supplied in this thread, that I do not believe the moon landing to have been faked.

Death
July 25th, 2009, 05:44 PM
Another interesting component as to whether the moon landing was faked is the Soviet question. What must not be understated is the fact that the Soviet Union was watching this operation with the utmost attention, and thus, it is highly likely that if any such hoax were to have occurred, the USSR would have known about it. Indeed, no credible evidence suggests that the Soviet Union doubted the American landing on the moon. It is with this information, and other such information already supplied in this thread, that I do not believe the moon landing to have been faked.

I agree with this; it seems a lot to say that such an event was a hoax. What about WW2? Was that all faked? Of course it wasn't; same here.

Zephyr
July 26th, 2009, 05:13 AM
No, doesn't make me any better than him,
Never said I was better than him.

But had I been in his position,
There'd be more than a punch.

Reality
July 26th, 2009, 05:22 AM
What about WW2? Was that all faked? Of course it wasn't; same here.
:rolleyes: Duh, of course WWII was faked. It was a massive conspiracy to sell Band of Brothers, and a bunch of WWII movies and First-Person Shooter games like Medal of Honor and Call of Duty.

Death
July 26th, 2009, 03:50 PM
:rolleyes: Duh, of course WWII was faked. It was a massive conspiracy to sell Band of Brothers, and a bunch of WWII movies and First-Person Shooter games like Medal of Honor and Call of Duty.

You know, the way in which you say it, you make it sound as if WW2 was a good thing.

Death
July 26th, 2009, 03:51 PM
But had I been in his position,
There'd be more than a punch.

Because he doesn't agree with you? Instead of discussing it, you would simply assault him?

:rolleyes: Duh, of course WWII was faked. It was a massive conspiracy to sell Band of Brothers, and a bunch of WWII movies and First-Person Shooter games like Medal of Honor and Call of Duty.

You know, the way in which you say it, you make it sound as if WW2 was a good thing.

anime Freak
August 20th, 2009, 05:32 PM
You know, the way in which you say it, you make it sound as if WW2 was a good thing.

in amny ways it was good thing, we probably would not have a quarter of the technology we have now if it werent for wwII

Sage
August 20th, 2009, 06:43 PM
in amny ways it was good thing, we probably would not have a quarter of the technology we have now if it werent for wwII

Yeah, let's sacrifice MILLIONS UPON MILLIONS OF PEOPLE for a couple technological conveniences.