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kolte
March 6th, 2006, 09:24 PM
The deal is, Iran has nuclear programs and are trying to make nuclear bombs. This is very scary because they are ruled by an extremist and I don’t think they care who gets blown up, nor do they care if they die in the process. Do you think the United States should do something to stop these terrorist, extremist, evil people from discovering nuclear power and having the potential to destroy the world. Explain your reasons why etc.

I think the UN not just the US should intervene. This is seriously a very scary thing. Iran is evil, the people are basically enslaved they hate the west and, at least I don’t think, wouldn’t bat and eye to firing off nuclear bombs.

Webbeardthepirate
March 6th, 2006, 11:46 PM
When Pakistan finished its nuclear weapons they were being ruled by fanatical islamists friendly to the taliban and dedicated to war with India. General Musharef and several supporters in the officer corps said "WHOA hold on there you nut-jobs. In a Nuclear war everyone looses and nobody wins." and they bumped the fanatics out of power.

Once you have nuclear weapons you can't screw around any more, you can't make random threats and invade other countries. Iran could never even hope to loose well in a nuclear war. Our second strike capability is massive. A single trident submarine has an arsenal capable of killing everyone on earth two and a half times. Pretty sure they are the tridents. And we have around twenty of these things. They will never be able to fight us then because if they strike first we kill them all, and if they don't strike first we kill them all to keep them from striking first. The only way Iran gets out of that situation alive is if you make damn sure no one thinks they are about to strike first, or even thinking about it.

Strategically it is the worse thing they could ever do to develop nuclear weapons. Their own people will turn on them to save themselves. We have the ability to make sure they have no launch capability left because every square inch of the country can be reduced to slag. And don't think we wouldn't do it. Countering with a first strike would be the onlyoption and you have to use nukes becuase you have to be sure and its the only way to be sure. There is no place that can be made safe from a precision guided nuclear warhead. The US is the only country to have ever used nuclear weapons in war, and all other countries know it.

Iran would be fools to develop weapons that would make us resort to such a thing. Or more likely that would make them have to shut up while we stomp around making the world safe for democracy. They wouldn't dare ever even threaton to put forces in the field against us. Kim Jong Il has discovered that the only thing you can do with nuclear weapons is sell them. The US doesn't cower back in fear.

But if you thought Oil prices are high now, that would be a mess.

March 8th, 2006, 07:55 PM
i should of read ur thing before i voted. I kind of have mixed feelings on the situation. I want the niclear weapons or even nuclea ideas erased from their minds and i want their sorry attitude to be taken away, but I do not want the amount of deaths the US has suffered from Iraq. So i have mixed feelings and stuff. oh and also i dont want a draft if there would need to be one, lets all hope not

Webbeardthepirate
March 8th, 2006, 09:08 PM
I wouldn't worry about a draft. We're using technology to supplement our troops more every year and trained professional soldiers work better. Psychology studies have shown that even basic training works better with an all volunteer force, probably why the marines have always been all volunteer. It helps with the tearing down of the ego thing if you volunteer to do it.

And really, what good would a draft do in a nuclear war? More troops aren't going to affect the bombs at all. Flash of light brighter then the sun followed by a shock wave of expanding energy, whoosh. No muss, no fuss. No, I don't see any point in returning to the draft.

serial-thrilla
March 9th, 2006, 12:10 AM
im in favor only because i wanna see iran get owned.

Webbeardthepirate
March 9th, 2006, 02:14 AM
You and every one else Serial. We could totally rock their mountainous world. The must have noticed we have battle hardened troops in both afghanistan to the east and Iraq to the west. And now there is forensic evidence that proves that Iran is supplying the explosives to the insurgency in Iraq.

kda2011
March 9th, 2006, 07:30 PM
Guys you have to remember though... I voted I would support it... we have nukes ourselves, but we dont want other people to have them.... I dont think Iran should have them but, if we do something people may come after the USA. So I think going to war would be a bad since they are the 4th World Oil Provider. They threaten to not give the world oil if we proceed. Germany, France, and Britain are in this too. So I think this is a bad time for the US to go to war... And remember if we go to war WE ARE GONNA HAVE THE DRAFT AND YOU ALL KNOW IT!

kda2011
March 9th, 2006, 07:37 PM
Oh... Sorry for posting twice in a row but we have ICBM's (Intercontinental ballistic missile) all over the US. So even if they launched a nuke at Canada, US, Mexico we will have it shot down before in crosses the ocean. So we can have as many nukes fired at us... or atleast how many they can make in a short period of time before we send them. But if one nuke is launched.... Its a nuke war! My time is messed up on my time also!

Webbeardthepirate
March 9th, 2006, 11:21 PM
I fear i must be the berer of bad news kda. ICBM's are used to deliver nuclear war heads between continants, not stop them. The Strategic Defense Innitiative, or SDI has yet to yeild a workable defensive system for such missles. They travel too high and too fast. And you can't use nukes to blow up the first wave in the air because that Ionizes the air rendering it opaque to radar. No radar and you can't see the next wave of missles comming, so you have to use conventional weapons.

Its not a launched weapon we really have to wory about. A ship with a nuke on board in new york harbor would kill 15 million people in a little under three seconds. A nuke in a cargo plane near washigton DC wipes out our entire federal government and a really cool museum just as fast. That's what is more likly to happen. Still, their ambassador to the UN in Vienna said they are going to hurt us for stopping them from getting nukes.

kda2011
March 10th, 2006, 06:14 PM
You cant fly over D.C. without being gunned down... or for that matter around D.C. at all. Having a unidentified plane un the US is rare. Its happened twice and the last year (News Breakers I mean) around D.C. but you heard that they had Fighter Jets all over that plane.

Oh and about the ICBM's Sorry I mistated information. The SDI's we produced in Ronald Regan's Term. During Clinton's & Russian President Vladimir Putinterm both developed a new Anti Missle Deffense System. It is known as N-M-D and it is still being used. It's being disputed. I am not sure if the information I posted is still acurate since the US likes to keep those kinda of things secret but it was acurate in Clintons term. If you want the information refer to this website: http://www.fas.org/nuke/control/abmt/news/000608-abmt2.htm The site is also a good Nuke/Missle information site!

TheWizard
March 11th, 2006, 04:13 AM
Its just a matter of time until someone nukes someone else.

Prepare to be burned to dust.

kda2011
March 11th, 2006, 07:21 PM
I agree wizard it is a matter of time. But it will be very unlikely that we will be nuked! Because they know we have very strong allies. Dont forget our German, Canadian, French, Brittish friends. Everyone of those but Canada is involved in the anti iran nuke problems.

fdsgfg55465
March 24th, 2006, 08:21 PM
i wold support it because maybe they dont want to get blown up but i do