discharging myself.

[sienna.]

today..
i decided to discharge myself.
from everything.
the hospital, the inpatient treatment centre.
because i am 18 and i control my medical decisions.

this isn't working for me, being in here.

i am going to go live with my older brother who lives in america for a while.
and i am going to try and get better over there.
because it clearly isn't working over here.

and then once i am better, i am going to come back home, and live with Coop.
and things are gonna be soo good again.

:)

[Myzarri]

Do what you need to do. Only you know whats best for yourself. I hope you can get the help you need. I hope that when I turn 18, I'll be able to get help too. :)

[Sapphire]

We'll see what the doctors say...

[Triceratops]

Only you know whats best for yourself.

Not necessarily. At all.

I highly disagree with that statement.

[Rutherford The Brave]

Getting back with your abusive boyfriend? Love is truly blind.

[Rawr]

i hope you are makeing the chouse i know how u feel im in the same spot as you even though i am younger by a few years im sick of the help the people are giveing me here but what you are doing i beg you not to do it unless you really think you will get more help over here in the U.S no one and pick for you its all up to you but i hope with all my heart you pick whats best for you and you get the help you need

[antimonic]

Lol ok so, after being found unconscious, surrounded by broken glass, blood, vomit, with a wound near your wrist and sleeping pills scattered around the place you are put into suicide watch.

THEN you decide to discharge yourself from it (sort of defeats the purpose, being put on suicide watch but being allowed to leave at any time lol).

But by all means, dont stop, I wanna hear what else happens! :D

[lamboman43]

You shouldn't go back to your abusive boyfriend, it wont get better, it will get worse. Unless ofcourse he changed. But if he hasn't everything will just be downhill.

[sienna.]

i am not going back to my abusive boyfriend!!!!!!
my boyfriend isn't abusive!!!

i am going to get help some where else.
i need to be away from everything for a while.
i need to do this for myself not boy my brother or my boyfriend.

i am going to go to america.
and i am going to get better.
i will not live my life like this any more!!!!!!

[Myzarri]

you tell 'em.

[Sapphire]

I sincerely doubt that you have a say in the matter atm.Lol ok so, after being found unconscious, surrounded by broken glass, blood, vomit, with a wound near your wrist and sleeping pills scattered around the place you are put into suicide watch.

THEN you decide to discharge yourself from it (sort of defeats the purpose, being put on suicide watch but being allowed to leave at any time lol).
Agreed.

[Antares]

Not necessarily. At all.

I highly disagree with that statement.

I disagree with that statement also. Highly.

Things don't work unless you try to make them work. You need to put in the effort try your hardest to make sure you get better.

Good luck in America, just don't go back to old tendancies.

[Rawr]

If you think this is right then plz go for it you know what works best for you and you know how to help your selfe you sould really smart and i think you will go far in life and i trust that you will get better when you put your mind into it you can do anything

[Myzarri]

Not necessarily. At all.

I highly disagree with that statement.

Well then correct me so I can see where I'm wrong. I'm not trying to be rude. I just thought that if someone understands that they're behavior and way of thinking is wrong, then they have the sense to know what they need to do to help change it and better themselves.

[Sapphire]

Well then correct me so I can see where I'm wrong. I'm not trying to be rude. I just thought that if someone understands that they're behavior and way of thinking is wrong, then they have the sense to know what they need to do to help change it and better themselves.
Oftentimes people don't know what's best for them.
If someone with an eating disorder, for example, knew what was best for themselves then they wouldn't be in that situation in the first place because they would have known how to address their eating before it became such a serious problem. They would also take opportunities to get better seriously and not resist the ones offered to them.

[Myzarri]

Ok. I see.

[Rutherford The Brave]

Running away to america wont help at all running away never helps if you want change you have to embody change

[sienna.]

i'm not running away.
i am going some where else to get help.

and this time i am really going to try.

[Sapphire]

Hmm...I'm still wondering why the doctors just let you walk out of there...

Think about the money that Cooper has supposedly spent on this inpatient treatment centre. You are letting it all go to waste. It is a lot and you are wasting it. If you want to get better then do it here. That way he can see that his money is being put to good use and isn't just being wasted by his neurotic girlfriend who decided that he wasn't enough for her to want to get better.

How are you paying for your plane ticket btw?

[Beautiful Obsession]

well good luck babee.. im so pleased for you, as long as your ready to discharge yourself from the hospital, And im glad your doing this for yourself and no body else, i really hope you recover and get well soon, tell me how it goes?


good luck hunni xx

[Loislane]

Hmm...I'm still wondering why the doctors just let you walk out of there...

Think about the money that Cooper has supposedly spent on this inpatient treatment centre. You are letting it all go to waste. It is a lot and you are wasting it. If you want to get better then do it here. That way he can see that his money is being put to good use and isn't just being wasted by his neurotic girlfriend who decided that he wasn't enough for her to want to get better.

How are you paying for your plane ticket btw?

I completly agree with this. Especially the last question on the plane ticket.
I'm sorry, I haven't been very up-to-date with whats been going on, but I have been reading a few of you're threads. There just seems to be one problem after another.
Write down a list of all the problems in you're life that you want to fix. Then gradually, work down the list to fix each of them. However much time it takes. You have you're whole life ahead of you.

[sienna.]

the doctors don't have control of me.
they gave me a massive speech about how it is in my best intrest to stay here and get help.
but they aren't helping me.
they put me on frickin suicide watch!!!

my big brother is paying for it.
i am going to stay with him over there. (he lives with his kid and wife)
and i am going to get better.

i see how much i am hurting coop, and it kills me.
that's why i want to do this away from him.
because i can't bare to see him hurting any more.

[AllThatIsLeft]

Suicide watch was the least of your worries.
I say you are making a huge mistake.

and sadly at some point, you will run out luck.
because it's luck what keeps you alive at this time.

[Truth]

the doctors don't have control of me.
they gave me a massive speech about how it is in my best intrest to stay here and get help.
but they aren't helping me.
they put me on frickin suicide watch!!!

my big brother is paying for it.
i am going to stay with him over there. (he lives with his kid and wife)
and i am going to get better.

i see how much i am hurting coop, and it kills me.
that's why i want to do this away from him.
because i can't bare to see him hurting any more. Honestly, you think coops just going to wait for you to get better in america? I'm not trying to be mean, but i wouldn't be surprised if he cheats on you while you're gone. You're making a mistake, the doctors arent lying. But, ohwell~

[Sapphire]

In reality, the doctors would have sectioned someone like you - not just let them waltz out the door.

[sienna.]

they didn't just let me watlz out the door.
but it's my life, and my decision.
not there's.

in the end, i do what i want!

suicide watch is the leat of my worries!!
what do i have to worry about then??

[Sapphire]

You've missed my point.
Someone in your situation would have been sectioned at least once throughout this sob-story.
The most recent point this would have happened would have been around the time you posted this.

[sienna.]

what do you mean by sectioned?

me discharging myself isn't that dufficult to understand.

[Sapphire]

You really think we're stupid, don't you?

Discharging yourself from an inpatient treatment center for eating disorders before you are even partially recovered and after a few days supposedly on suicide watch is bound to be difficult.

You would have been sectioned if this were all actually happening.

And the fact that you don't know what being sectioned is is proof that this is all a load of bull.

[sienna.]

i didn't say it wasn't dufficult.

yes i wasn't in there for like a month!!
but i was in there for more then a week.

and when i was on suicide watch i was placed in a room.

then after they took me off suicide watch, i decided that i wanted to discharge myself.
yes i took alot of energy, a lot of talking and a lot of arguing.
but i am 18, and i volentarily went in there, therefore i can volentrailly leave.
i am incharge of my own medical decisions.

the doctors don't own me, they cannot tell me what to do!!
they can't force me to stay, and i don't know why you don't understand that!

[Sapphire]

Lol, that is proof that you really are not granting any of us with any relevant knowledge.

Yes, they can force you to stay involuntarily.
They can even force you to undergo different therapies.
With you being so unstable, not even partially recovered and having been on suicide watch they would not let you leave voluntarily.

[sienna.]

see, i'm sorry.

but you don't know. it didn't happen to you.
it happened to me!

i'm not lying, but think what you want.

[Sapphire]

Lol. Sienna, post whatever you want if it makes you feel better.

But, rest assured the staff at an inpatient treatment center would not let someone in your condition discharge themselves.

[sienna.]

well you are wrong.
each inpatient treatment centre is different.
and each country is different.

but i discharged myself.
get over it.
it doesn't effect you.

[Sapphire]

That may be so but the mental health act is enforced nationwide.

[AllThatIsLeft]

*ahem*

Sienna your worries should be that you are a hazard to yourself.
To be honest, you brought on everything bad that has happened to you in one way or another.

[Beautiful Obsession]

i completely agree with Sienna Tbh, She has been on Suicide watch for some time now, and as she went in volentarily i agree that when she feels ready she can leave, and if she feels ready, then why shouldn't she leave? is obvious that suicide watch isn't the thing for her and i think that her herself knows whats best for her, also shes right, no one knows what shes been through accept from her, and if she wants to move with her brother to get better then good for you babee.

i really hope it goes well for you, but i think everyone else should maybe cut her some slack, shes trying to get better so i think we should let her, not trying to be rude by saying this:D

good luck tell us how it goes !! xxx

[Truth]

i completely agree with Sienna Tbh, She has been on Suicide watch for some time now, and as she went in volentarily i agree that when she feels ready she can leave, and if she feels ready, then why shouldn't she leave? is obvious that suicide watch isn't the thing for her and i think that her herself knows whats best for her, also shes right, no one knows what shes been through accept from her, and if she wants to move with her brother to get better then good for you babee.

i really hope it goes well for you, but i think everyone else should maybe cut her some slack, shes trying to get better so i think we should let her, not trying to be rude by saying this:D

good luck tell us how it goes !! xxx People in her condition, honestly, do not know what is best for them. They think something is, but it just makes it worse. And she's going to do just that.

[AllThatIsLeft]

Hollie you really have no clue the danger she is to herself.
You don't understand that someone in that state really shouldn't have the choice to walk away, when chances are she is going to kill herself when her luck runs out.

[Triceratops]

i completely agree with Sienna Tbh, She has been on Suicide watch for some time now, and as she went in volentarily i agree that when she feels ready she can leave, and if she feels ready, then why shouldn't she leave? is obvious that suicide watch isn't the thing for her and i think that her herself knows whats best for her, also shes right, no one knows what shes been through accept from her, and if she wants to move with her brother to get better then good for you babee.

Yes she can make her own decisions and choices for herself but that most certainly doesn't mean that she KNOWS what's best for her.

She has got herself tangled up in such a mess in this story of hers, and it's evident she isn't exactly capable of looking after herself properly without professional help, judging from all of her previous posts during her time here.

Tbh, it won't be long until she posts another thread crying for help because of some other drama that has happened...

I apologize if this post comes across as insensitive and rude but this is all just ridiculous. You are basically abusing the fact that when help is being offered you just throw it away and ruin your chances of recovering properly, when you are at your most desperate.

[Sapphire]

i completely agree with Sienna Tbh, She has been on Suicide watch for some time now, and as she went in volentarily i agree that when she feels ready she can leave, and if she feels ready, then why shouldn't she leave? is obvious that suicide watch isn't the thing for her and i think that her herself knows whats best for her, also shes right, no one knows what shes been through accept from her, and if she wants to move with her brother to get better then good for you babee.

i really hope it goes well for you, but i think everyone else should maybe cut her some slack, shes trying to get better so i think we should let her, not trying to be rude by saying this:D

good luck tell us how it goes !! xxxShe has supposedly been in an inpatient treatment center for eating disorders and then while she was there she was put on suicide watch for approximately 3 days, I think.
(I believe that normally people are actually transferred from centers like that to a special suicide prevention unit but I'll let that bit slide.)

And whether you like to acknowledge it or not, people with mental health problems often don't know what is best for them.
If a girl with an ED knew what was best for herself then she would seek help, cooperate with the professionals and work towards recovering. She wouldn't refuse feeding tubes, make herself throw up, smash mirrors, lock herself in bathrooms so she can get every last bit of food out of her and so on.

I honestly don't care if you think she should be allowed to voluntarily leave. In reality the doctors wouldn't have let her leave and they would have sectioned her. If any of her story is to be believed (which I severely doubt) then she is a danger to herself and the Mental Health Act is in place for this exact reason.

But the fact that she didn't know about the ability for doctors to hold her against her will just further illustrates that she is lying and trying to take us all for a ride.

[antimonic]

So to get the story straight:

After being found unconscious, surrounded by broken glass, blood, vomit, with a wound near your wrist and sleeping pills scattered around the place you are put into suicide watch.

(You were allowed your phone in suicide watch? lol sounds like a very leniant institute youre in! almost as if they dont care. . .)

And now the doctors have apparently taken you off suicide watch, (because waking up in blood, vomit and broken glass is normal? safe? not threatenig to yourself? :D)
Why where you taken off? lol (if you wanting to get better results in all of the above, what would you be like if you DIDNT want to get better :P )

running off to america wont change a damn thing, instead of your loverboy being hurt, this time itll be your brother, his wife AND his child - but hey, thats a fair trade now isnt it? as long as you get better suuuuuure drag MORE people into it! the more the merrier!!!

Back to this "inpatient treatment center", upon finding you - all unconscious n covered in puke n blood n glass on the floor with sleeping pills suspiciously laid out on the floor - you werent taken to a HOSPITAL for treatment? or were you and they just brought you back and THEN you were put on s. watch?

or maybe this VOLUNTARY treatment centre is more than capable enough to treat you after your funky night, but CANT hold you against your will under the mental health act? (which is enforced in the UK, America, and a shitloada other countries. . . .so where are you where this law doesnt apply? the artic circle?)

I think theres a word that can sum this all up.............begins with B.........and ends with OLLOCKS!!!! hehehe

[sienna.]

"To be honest, you brought on everything bad that has happened to you in one way or another."

omg.
i have said that like 8 times!.
everything that has happened to me is my own fault, because i make bad decisions.

the end of this is..
i am going to america to live with my older brother (25) and i am going to get help.
i will no longer live like this!!!!

[Rutherford The Brave]

Well fine run away from it, you know I don't blame you but it only makes you look afraid. Good luck, and I hope your brother doesnt mind babysitting you.

[Sapphire]

Sienna, you really should have paid more attention to this.running off to america wont change a damn thing, instead of your loverboy being hurt, this time itll be your brother, his wife AND his child - but hey, thats a fair trade now isnt it? as long as you get better suuuuuure drag MORE people into it! the more the merrier!!!

[sienna.]

it was my brothers idea!!!
he wants to help me!!

i have tried getting better over here and it isn't working.
going some where else to get better wont make it worse!!

i have a really good feeling about this.
i know i am doing the right thing!

[Sapphire]

You haven't let them help you! That's why you haven't got better.
How many times did you fight them when they tried putting the feeding tubes in?!

Where you are has nothing to do with this. Your attitude towards recovery is what will change things.

[antimonic]

Yeah, go somewhere else, drag other people into it, including a possible innocent child thats the right thing to do!!! :D whenever you dont get better, the OBVIOUS solution is to drag more innocent people into it. Thats BOUND to work!! :P

[Beautiful Obsession]

alright everyone thinks im wrong but think about it, her brother obviously wants to help so why not let him? maybe being away for a while around her family will help?

and i know that the doctors can make her stay, but once you are 18 she is old enough to discharge herself,
and for those here that have said she has brought everything on herself well think about it?

how many people here are self-harming, got eating disorders etc etc, i know i do and so do alot of you, but thats because you hate the way you feel about yourself, i have an eating disorder and am recovering self-harming, but both of these is because i hate myself. Sienna Proberally feels the same as the rest of us..

i just feel we shud all wish her luck in America and hope she gets better:) x

[Sapphire]

Yes, at 18 you are able to discharge yourself.
BUT the Mental Health Act gives doctors the ability to detain someone against their wishes regardless of age if the situation calls for it. This situation would call for it.

If Sienna was truly in the situation she has so elaborately described then it is safe to say that she isn't happy with herself. However, it is also safe to say that she wouldn't be jetting off to the USA because she would have been sectioned by the staff of the treatment center.

[Loislane]

"To be honest, you brought on everything bad that has happened to you in one way or another."
omg.
i have said that like 8 times!.
everything that has happened to me is my own fault, because i make bad decisions.

Exactly. You've clearly said yourself that you're own decisions are bad decisions, so why are you making the decision to run away? Let the doctors make the decisions, as they know what is best, and stay here to get you're help.

[sienna.]

i am not running away!!
i am going to get help!!!

i really want to do this!
i want to be alive for longer then 18 years.
i want to hav kids, i see my kids kids grow up.

i think being around my brother is good because my brother gives the the tough love.
he is different then Coop.
my brother is very big, and he scares me sometimes.

i know that i am going to get better.
i have never felt more poitive about getting better then what i do now!

[Sapphire]

Good luck having kids after having an eating disorder...

[sienna.]

there is still a chance.

[Sapphire]

A very slim chance

[sienna.]

but it's still a chance.
like 1 in a million.
but can be that 1.

i will be.
:)

[Sapphire]

i will be.
:)
Lol. Yeah, you'll make sure of it. Just like you made sure that you were put on suicide watch and just like you made sure that you were able to walk out of there without being sectioned.

[sienna.]

it's a thing called faith.
i have faith.

[Sapphire]

...Or just your talent for fabricating stories

[sienna.]

what ever.

[Sapphire]

Ok, blow me off with "whatever".

It doesn't change anything - especially the fact that you've shown us that you're making this shit up.

I refer back to this:
"In reality the doctors wouldn't have let her leave and they would have sectioned her. If any of her story is to be believed (which I severely doubt) then she is a danger to herself and the Mental Health Act is in place for this exact reason."

The sooner you stop lying, the better.

[sienna.]

omg.
i don't care that you think i am lying.
i am not, but think what you want.

i'm not gonna waste my time arguing with you, when i couldn't care less, if you believe me or not.

i came on here for advice, that's it.

so stop trying to find reason to make me sound like i am lying, when i'm not!

please lock this, i am tired of having to defend myself.
actually i am tired of this whole site.
this ment to be a place where people can get advice.
insted you all acuse me of lying!

YES! some people's lives can be misserable. and a lot of bad things can happen! and that is all my fault.
i am not trying to find excuses for my actions. it's all my fault!!

BUT I AM NOT RUNNING AWAY!
I AM GOING TO GET BETTER!!!!
SO FROM NOW ON KEPP ALL YOUR FRICKIN OPINIONS TO YOURSELVES.

BETTER YET! delete my profile! i would but i don't know how.
so can a mod or someone, do it for me!!

[Sapphire]

Lol, have fun :)

[Triceratops]

VT doesn't delete profiles.
However as requested, I'm locking this.

On a side note, your story is incredibly unrealistic and doesn't add up. I'd be surprised if what you're saying is genuine.
If you're going to post threads like this which appear to be extreme and quite preposterous then you should expect some level of controversy.

:locked: