You are GAY...

[Cromm]

...when you're solely sexually attracted to the same gender.

Period.

That's it!

Emotional attachments are irrelavent.

What you've done, or had done to you is irrelavent.

Who or what you've seen or looked at in the shower is irrelavent.

If you're sexually attracted to the same gender, and ONLY the same gender, you are homosexual.


Can ya'll stop asking now? :confused:



Sorry for the rant... I'll stop now.

[Neverender]

When your attracted to the same Gender, sexually, that would be Physical Attraction

Emotional means you could picture yourself with a guy at a wedding and you love him for his personality, his wit, so on. Not just the fact that you love the male body.



Also, we have this forum so people can ask and have answers personally to them. If no one asked these questions and just read this post, this forum wouldnt exist.

[ShatteredWings]

lol
To your supprise, people have made threads like this before. Methinks this is the most straight forward one though..

[mosaic.]

Amen, bro.

[Atonement]

Um, one problem. There is no one I have ever met that has only ever been attracted to either sex. I know straight guys that have had sexual fantasies of men and women. And women of women and men. Sexuality is NOT. And I repeat. NOT black and white. All sexuality is gray.

[mosaic.]

As true as that is, I find it almost completely irrelevant.

Although all sexuality is ambiguous, there is no doubt that if you are genuinely attracted to the same sex, you are gay. Disregarding the possibility of those so-called "hormones" or "curiosity."

[YourFriend]

false, in order to be gay, you have to be EMOTIONALLY attracted to guys. period
hehe i am gay, but i can't imagine myself in a marriage :O i love guys but still i don't think i am gonna marry a guy

[mosaic.]

false, in order to be gay, you have to be EMOTIONALLY attracted to guys. period
hehe i am gay, but i can't imagine myself in a marriage :O i love guys but still i don't think i am gonna marry a guy

Absolutely not. I too am sexually attracted to guys, but have difficulty developing emotional attachment to them.

Regardless if you are emotionally attracted to them, you have the physical attraction to males.

[Cromm]

false, in order to be gay, you have to be EMOTIONALLY attracted to guys. period Wrong. Look it up in the dictionary.

From Answers.com:

Homosexual - n. Sexual orientation to persons of the same sex.

Sexual orientation - n. The direction of one's sexual interest toward members of the same, opposite, or both sexes.


From medicine.net:

Homosexual - A person sexually attracted to persons of the same sex. Homosexuals include males (gays) and females (lesbians).


From the Merriam-Webster online dictionary:

1ho·mo·sex·u·al
Function: adjective
Date: 1892

1 : of, relating to, or characterized by a tendency to direct sexual desire toward another of the same sex

2 : of, relating to, or involving sexual intercourse between persons of the same sex

— ho·mo·sex·u·al·ly adverb


(Bold's mine)


Sexuality is (not suprising) about sex. People have strong emotional connections to people of the same gender all the time without being sexually attracted to them: it's called friendship!


And while I'm at it: yes, it's true that sexuallity is not a lightswitch. Humans are too complicated in ALL aspects of their personality to be either/or anything. Having said that though, having an occansional sexual fantasy about one gender or the other is also irrelevant.


:sigh:... I guess I'm not the first to bring this up, huh?


:what:

[ThUnDeR]

...when you're solely sexually attracted to the same gender.

Period.

That's it!

Emotional attachments are irrelavent.

What you've done, or had done to you is irrelavent.

Who or what you've seen or looked at in the shower is irrelavent.

If you're sexually attracted to the same gender, and ONLY the same gender, you are homosexual.


Can ya'll stop asking now? :confused:



Sorry for the rant... I'll stop now.
i disagree so yur not gay if you are in love with aguy cause emotional attachment is irrelevent... emotional attachments is one of the main things of being gay...

so if im sexually attracted to a guy im gay???? what if im curious? but im not in love withthem... everythign you said is wrong sorry XD

[Atonement]

So if someone has a single feeling for the opposite sex, they aren't gay? Or if they have a single feeling for the same sex, they aren't straight? This is bonkers. As I said, there is no black and white. There is no gay and straight, there is human. Humans will love who they love and not who they don't. Its quite simple. Why put a label on it? Its pointless. I personally do not believe that anyone is 100% gay or 100% straight.

[mosaic.]

Sexuality is defined by sexual attraction.

Homosexuality and Heterosexuality is absolutely black and white.
You either prefer penis or vagina. And YES, you can prefer both. We call that bisexuality.

So if you're solely attracted to males, but feel that you could never marry a guy, guess what?
You're still homosexual! Why? Because that is the definition of homosexuality!

So like the original poster first stated.

Your emotional attachments are completely irrelevant.

[Atonement]

If that's how you want to define sexuality, go for it. But that doesn't mean anymore. People are attracted to both sexes. If you can find someone that can honestly say they have never found another person of the same sex (or opposite if they identify as gay), you can prove me wrong. But I do not believe anyone is black and white. Solely means 100%. I do no believe anyone is 100% gay or 100% straight. As I've stated numerous times.

[YourFriend]

Your emotional attachments are completely irrelevant.

How the hell can you say such a thing?!?!?? emotional attraction is the main thing here, what ever you say, it just is...

[mosaic.]

How the hell can you say such a thing?!?!?? emotional attraction is the main thing here, what ever you say, it just is...

Easy. Sexuality is not defined by emotional attraction. Period. I'm going to stop beating the dead horse, because it's clear that you don't quite understand where this view is coming from.

[mosaic.]

If that's how you want to define sexuality, go for it. But that doesn't mean anymore. People are attracted to both sexes. If you can find someone that can honestly say they have never found another person of the same sex (or opposite if they identify as gay), you can prove me wrong. But I do not believe anyone is black and white. Solely means 100%. I do no believe anyone is 100% gay or 100% straight. As I've stated numerous times.

That's not how I want to define it. IT IS how it is defined.

I do respect your views. I once adopted the "everyone is bisexual" perspective, and it is well supported. However, hetero and homosexuality are preferences. And just that. You prefer one sex over the other.

So regardless if all sexuality is grey, the preference still exists.

[Cromm]

... so yur not gay if you are in love with aguy cause emotional attachment is irrelevent... How to you define 'in love'? It implies romantic attachment, but can mean many other things as well. Yes, you can be 'in love' with someone of the same gender without being homosexual. I love my friend Mark. I love my brother, but I'm not gay.

emotional attachments is one of the main things of being gay... No. Emotional attachments do not define sexuallity.

so if im sexually attracted to a guy im gay???? what if im curious? but im not in love withthem... If you're not in love with any man, but are only sexually attracted to men in gerneral, then guess what buddy? You're GAY! If you're sexually attracted to women, but are 'curious', that's differnt. Love is irrelevant.

Again:
If you are solely sexually attracted to the same gender, you are a homosexual. IE: gay.



So if someone has a single feeling for the opposite sex, they aren't gay? Or if they have a single feeling for the same sex, they aren't straight? This is bonkers. As I said, there is no black and white.. I don't know what you mean by 'single feeling' in this context, but I agree there is no black and white in human relationships. Once again however: If you're sexually attrached to the same gender, and ONLY the same gender, you are gay. Maybe you're completly bisexual and attracted to both equally, maybe you're more attracted to one than the other, but if you're only sexually attracted to the same gender, you're gay.

There is no gay and straight, there is human. Humans will love who they love and not who they don't. Its quite simple. Why put a label on it? Its pointless. I personally do not believe that anyone is 100% gay or 100% straight. You're getting into opinion and philosophy now, and that's fine, but I'm talking about lexicography and commonly accepted use here, not personal opinions.

If that's how you want to define sexuality, go for it. But that doesn't mean anymore. 1st, as mosiac said, it's not how I define the word, that's simply how it is defined. 2nd, although words and language do change and evolve over time, the commonly accepted use of the word "gay" hasn't changed since it last meant 'jolly'.



How the hell can you say such a thing?!?!?? emotional attraction is the main thing here. The main thing where? In whether or not you love someone? Certainly! In whether or not your are, by definition, a homosexual? No. Not at all.


Maybe I should start a new thread: "What does gay mean to you?"

Hmm...

[Maverick]

People in their own time will figure out their sexuality on their own. Sexuality is a lot more complicated than simple statements and its not something completely understood.

You can't tell them what they are because the only person that knows is them and you are wasting your time here preaching to people what they are when you don't know anything about them.

[Bougainvillea]

People in their own time will figure out their sexuality on their own. Sexuality is a lot more complicated than simple statements and its not something completely understood.

You can't tell them what they are because the only person that knows is them and you are wasting your time here preaching to people what they are when you don't know anything about them.

Oh snaps. I agree with this completely

[Cromm]

I do sound preachy, don't I? :what:

It certainly was never my intent to make blanket statments about any group of people, nor would I ever presume to know better than anyone else, what's in thier hearts. I only started this thread because of the number of 'am I gay' et al. threads that already exist in the forum.

Yes, only you know for sure who you really are. My intent was to relief some confusion in regards to the definition of the term (rather than the status of being) gay.


I appoloigize if I've offended anyone, I definately wasn't trying to!


Peace out. :)

[mosaic.]

I apologize if I offended anyone as well. My intent was not to dictate someone's sexuality, but to help clarify any ambiguity surrounding the literal meaning of "sexuality."

[Neverender]

So if someone has a single feeling for the opposite sex, they aren't gay? Or if they have a single feeling for the same sex, they aren't straight? This is bonkers. As I said, there is no black and white. There is no gay and straight, there is human. Humans will love who they love and not who they don't. Its quite simple. Why put a label on it? Its pointless. I personally do not believe that anyone is 100% gay or 100% straight.

Agreed.

I see Cromm is now desparate to make this thread seem correct.

Complicatedly, if you got raped by a man in a dark alley, and you like looking at men; but cant picture yourself being with a guy, your still not gay.\

[Cromm]

[...]I see Cromm is now desparate to make this thread seem correct.

Simply put, if you got raped by a man in a dark alley, and you like looking at men; but cant picture yourself being with a guy, your still not gay.\:mad: Oh for the love of....

I'm "desparate", but you're going on about rape? Rape has never been mentioned in this thread, not once. Your attempt at puting things 'simply' is convoluted and unessisary.

If you want to share your opinion, by all means feel free; but please don't speak for me. And if you feel the need to take a shot at me, do it in PM.

[Atonement]

I will agree with the "preference". Sexual "preference" is a better definition for sexuality as I believe in bisexuality as a standard. I don't believe in black and white as I've said. You can prefer one or the other, but its still a gray area. And more so, its just a label for which you identify.

I'd also like to point out that yes, homosexuality is a sexual desire towards someone. But one thought does not make you a homosexual. It makes you human. Just like everyone else.

Also, "sexual orientation" which is the technical term for one's "sexuality" is defined as: Sexual orientation is an enduring pattern of emotional, romantic, and/or sexual attractions to men, women, both genders, neither gender, or another gender.

[ThUnDeR]

i just dont get how emotional attraction has nothing to do with sexuality..... i think it does but yall dont explain to me

[Neverender]

I will give a summary to what i mean in my former posts.


You said: If you have feelings towards only guys you're gay.

That isnt accurate. and since i have no time to bother and read every post in the thread, I got the general vibe of its direction.

Just because it says so in a dictionary, the definition of Sexual orientation and homosexual are one thing. But a person's sexual orientation and such are another. No person's likes to that level can be defined in a dictionary. There are very few people in this world who are completely straight, or completely gay, without ever having one single thought or feeling about the opposite sex at any time in their lives.

Your thread is about the strict definition of the words. Not the feelings.


(And to make my [-]rape[/-] example more happy for you, lets say that we have a 12 year old who hasnt really developed any feelings for girls yet, but his hormones are screaming for boys. Hes not gay, although hes attracted solely to the same gender [at that time])

I think your thread is confusing to those who have the usual Am I Gay? questions, and can give them the wrong answers.


End of story.

-Ryan

[Antares]

Why did you make a second thread???

Feeling sexually attracted to the same sex.

Thats basically it. Pretty simple definition in my eyes but then it gets complicated when people feel sexually attracted to...women and they are emotionally attracted to men...

[drpepper21]

it might be the more straight forward, but if you keep going straight, eventually youll hit a wall.

[YourFriend]

There are very few people in this world who are completely straight, or completely gay, without ever having one single thought or feeling about the opposite sex at any time in their lives.


I am one of them.