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Origami
July 6th, 2009, 01:11 PM
VT Youtube Channel
After reviewing some previous threads in the section, I've come to believe that this idea won't go so well with VT members, especially seasoned members. However I've come up with a small list of pros and cons to a potential VT Youtube channel.

Pros and Cons
Pros


Advertisement - Youtube is widely accessed by teens every day who at times search the most random things, and with growing popularity the channel could become more visible to teens.
Video Tour and Details - A small site your, of non-confidential topics, and information about the website could be explained within a simple video for users to view, the video of which could be featured on the channel, and people viewing the channel would automatically view it.
Member Created Videos - Members who aren't confidential about personal lives could have the liberty to submit videos to be added to the channel for an added sense of friendship and acceptance to the website.



Cons


Advertisement - Potential bad traffic, while this could be a potential downside, all forms of advertising come with this, it's inevitable, bad members will join.
Over Exposure - As all forms of advertisement have, there is a chance of exponential member growth, creating a harder job for staff members.



How Would This Work?
The creation of the channel could easily be done by a high ranking staff member or a selected user who would have access to the channel for uploading or editing as needed.

Management
There are probably several ways this could be managed, I'll briefly mention two.
Closed Management
Closed management would be where one member, a high ranking staff member preferably, has 100% control over the channel itself and would upload every video submitted and approved themselves.
Open Management
Open management could be where the channel is accessed by many people, preferably approved members who have done something to earn it. Post count, membership length, etc. The users would then have the option of using the channel freely after this requirement is met.
What if someone steals it? This is why it should be managed by a high ranking staff member or trusted site member, the option of a email password could be submitted and dictation of the channel could be decided after. The e-mail can only be altered through e-mail verification so users can't necessarily "steal" the channel.


Just a random suggestion.

EverlostPoet
July 6th, 2009, 01:15 PM
+1 create a poll xD I like this idea, but how many members could join for open management?

Origami
July 6th, 2009, 01:17 PM
+1 create a poll xD I like this idea, but how many members could join for open management?

Would be an administration issue.

Wow, missed the Suggestions forum, sorry. ):
Damn my lack of attention to detail.

Antares
July 6th, 2009, 01:19 PM
I don't mind the idea
I wont care if its rejected or accepted. Just kinda neutral

Perseus
July 6th, 2009, 01:24 PM
Didn't Donkey already make a youtube video, anyway? I like this idea, though.

Origami
July 6th, 2009, 01:28 PM
Didn't Donkey already make a youtube video, anyway? I like this idea, though.

I searched everything relevant to VT, I got nothing but some rather disturbing results.
If he did I can't find it. ):

Antares
July 6th, 2009, 01:35 PM
I searched everything relevant to VT, I got nothing but some rather disturbing results.
If he did I can't find it. ):

He made a video. He recently linked to it actually...not sure where though.

We don't have a channel. It would be kinda cool if we did.
I would think that employing trustworthy people to run the dailys would be best

Perseus
July 6th, 2009, 01:36 PM
Hmmm..., I could've sworn he made a video.

Origami
July 6th, 2009, 01:37 PM
He made a video. He recently linked to it actually...not sure where though.

We don't have a channel. It would be kinda cool if we did.
I would think that employing trustworthy people to run the dailys would be best

Hmm, I'll have to look around the forums then.

And yeah, I agree, regardless I still believe and administrator or at least a global mod should be the ones to create it or have it created via there e-mail or something for obvious security reasons. The latter reason is simply easier so one person doesn't have to receive every video and then upload them all. Lol, Youtube gets annoying about uploads.

Donkey
July 6th, 2009, 02:03 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HqmjymL8nO0

Aηdy
July 6th, 2009, 02:08 PM
I doubt people are going to fund us through youtube. And we don't need to advertise, people find us, and can do so easily with just a few keywords in a search engine. Also we don't need a video to explain what the site is about, you'd have to be blind not to work that out yourself in 30 seconds.

Donkey
July 6th, 2009, 02:11 PM
I doubt people are going to fund us through youtube. And we don't need to advertise, people find us, and can do so easily with just a few keywords in a search engine. Also we don't need a video to explain what the site is about, you'd have to be blind not to work that out yourself in 30 seconds.
Agreed actually. The video was more for a joke, being dramatic and that... and out of boredom. Boredom + Sony Vegas = video.

First YouTube, then Twitter and before we know it, VT has seventeen fan sites. This is a single community and needs to stay that way.

Antares
July 6th, 2009, 02:17 PM
I think the coolest possibility out of this channel is to have random members post random crap that they want to share

Sugaree
July 6th, 2009, 04:45 PM
There was a VT YouTube Channel (or group, can't remember which) that was created by thesonicguy (now since banned from the forum) and failed greatly. I tried to revive it but that also failed. I could see this happening, but I'm not so sure on this. The thing I'm worried about is Advertisement. We may be getting the wrong people to come over to the site and cause havoc.

Bobby
July 6th, 2009, 04:53 PM
It's not a bad idea, but I don't think it's necessary. I'd rather we put focus on what is here.

LiGHT
July 6th, 2009, 04:56 PM
I think this is a great idea. It would get us a lot of new members. And I think one of the admins should make the account and run it and select a few members to moderate it.

MoveAlong
July 6th, 2009, 05:18 PM
Ok, so one, I think that the idea of allowing members who reach a certain post count to get it is bad, or a certain duration of membership. It's just bad security. If this happens, there should be a team.

Also, I don't like the idea. Sorry.

Origami
July 6th, 2009, 05:27 PM
I've come to believe that this idea won't go so well with VT members, especially seasoned members.
;) Go me.
Anyway it doesn't matter, that's why it's a "Suggestions" forum and not a "Hey guys look what we're getting!" forum. (:

Antares
July 6th, 2009, 05:38 PM
;) Go me.
Anyway it doesn't matter, that's why it's a "Suggestions" forum and not a "Hey guys look what we're getting!" forum. (:

If it makes you feel better, I support you :P:P:P:P

I think this is a good side project. Not a "vt" project....if that makes sense

MoveAlong
July 6th, 2009, 05:56 PM
;) Go me.
Anyway it doesn't matter, that's why it's a "Suggestions" forum and not a "Hey guys look what we're getting!" forum. (:

yeah...I know that...

Origami
July 6th, 2009, 05:58 PM
If it makes you feel better, I support you :P:P:P:P

I think this is a good side project. Not a "vt" project....if that makes sense
It makes a little sense? Not completely? You might have to pm me or IM me to explain that one lol.

yeah...I know that...
:P

Antares
July 6th, 2009, 10:37 PM
It makes a little sense? Not completely? You might have to pm me or IM me to explain that one lol.


:P

Side project meaning out of the realms of the point of VT. Sort of like...soemthign that the administration doesn't have to worry about...more of a administration guided member run thing...does that make sense :P

Sugaree
July 7th, 2009, 05:46 PM
I'm actually starting to question this. Does the site REALLY need a YouTube channel? I just don't see this coming to light. Even if it does, I don't think the site would benefit much from it. Maybe some people would join, but they probably will post one or two times and ditch. Plus, we could be getting people who aren't teens joining, possibly wanting to trade pics or cam with members.

It cold do good for the site, but can also do some bad. I don't think we really NEED it, but we do have a few members who WANT it. You shouldn't really WANT it. You should ask yourself, "Well, it's a good idea. But does the site truly NEED this? How will it affect the site? Will it cause benefits? Will it cause disruption?" As I said, I don't think we really need this for the site. I can't see how it would benefit us that much (other than a few members who probably won't post...).

MoveAlong
July 7th, 2009, 06:14 PM
I agree^

Origami
July 7th, 2009, 07:09 PM
I'm actually starting to question this. Does the site REALLY need a YouTube channel? I just don't see this coming to light. Even if it does, I don't think the site would benefit much from it. Maybe some people would join, but they probably will post one or two times and ditch. Plus, we could be getting people who aren't teens joining, possibly wanting to trade pics or cam with members.

It cold do good for the site, but can also do some bad. I don't think we really NEED it, but we do have a few members who WANT it. You shouldn't really WANT it. You should ask yourself, "Well, it's a good idea. But does the site truly NEED this? How will it affect the site? Will it cause benefits? Will it cause disruption?" As I said, I don't think we really need this for the site. I can't see how it would benefit us that much (other than a few members who probably won't post...).

Not to be rude or oppose you, but there are many things in general that VT doesn't NEED, and isn't really "beneficial" already. And before I continue I'm not "butt hurt" as many say over the idea basically already being off to a bad start, "suggestions," key word.

Addressing the issues. (If I miss one please let me know)
Maybe some people would join, but they probably will post one or two times and ditch.
Quite frankly, this happens every day, speaking first hand, if not for Paula, I would have literally made ONE post and walked away. It happens already so it's not really a surprise there.
we could be getting people who aren't teens joining, possibly wanting to trade pics or cam with members.
Please, please don't deny this, it's already happening, I guarantee it. There is know way this forum is as active as it is without some older man, or woman, trolling the forum looking for "prey." It's an unavoidable fact of life, and quite frankly "virtual teen" is probably a very common pop up in pornographic searches as is considering on youtube when I searched I found virtual lap dance videos over and over. This world is full of creeps hunting teens, this is a hot spot in a sense, emotionally unstable, a lot of teens can be tricked into it with the slightest of ease when they think they've found a friend.

So in a nutshell, no it may not be beneficial, but it could be. And also it may harm the forum, but no more than already takes place.
Again, I'm not "butt hurt" or opposing you, I just debate on everything, regardless of the subject at hand. :)

Maverick
July 7th, 2009, 07:33 PM
No reason to reject something that hasn't been tried before...

Why not go ahead and create an unofficial channel and demonstrate what it can do and offer. If it looks good maybe it can be something the administration can look into further and support as an extension of the site.

Deal?

Aηdy
July 7th, 2009, 07:35 PM
No reason to reject something that hasn't been tried before...

Why not go ahead and create an unofficial channel and demonstrate what it can do and offer. If it looks good maybe it can be something the administration can look into further and support as an extension of the site.

Deal?

http://mp.channel4.com/mobile-portal/media/wallpaper/dond/box_500x500.jpg

Origami
July 7th, 2009, 07:37 PM
No reason to reject something that hasn't been tried before...

Why not go ahead and create an unofficial channel and demonstrate what it can do and offer. If it looks good maybe it can be something the administration can look into further and support as an extension of the site.

Deal?
Mmmks sounds fair enough. xD No plans on doing this alone so I'm guessing it's time to consult the one guy behind me! John!!! D:

http://mp.channel4.com/mobile-portal/media/wallpaper/dond/box_500x500.jpg

The secret behind 11k posts is revealed. ;) And I say...DEAL! Where's my $20,000?

Donkey
July 10th, 2009, 03:02 PM
What videos would you put up?

Patchy
July 25th, 2009, 04:00 AM
No harm trying it,

I guess it could draw more people but VT has never really needed to advertise itself since members come usually for advice then give advice but meh, all publicity is good publicity....I think :P