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Reality
July 1st, 2009, 07:34 PM
Do you support it? Or do you think it should be/remain banned where you are?

Personally, I'm pretty much for it. I know getting married is usually a religious ceremony, and that a good few religions disagree with homosexuality in general, but nowadays marriage is also a legal union, and in many places, still important when it comes to situations like property, inheritance and children.

I think, in terms of marrying in a church (or other religious building like a temple or mosque or whatever), it should be up to the beliefs of that church. But as for legally, gays and lesbians should have just as much right as to get married to eachother as straight couples do. I think in the eyes of the law, marriages should be gender-blind.

Perseus
July 1st, 2009, 07:40 PM
I think it should be legal. Homosexual people are people just like everyone else. Saying homosexual people can't marry is just like saying you can't get married because you're black or brown. I hate how ignorant some people are and just be like, 'Its an evil sprituh that is inhabited your bodyuh."(I got that from that one video, lol)
Same sex is fine and peopel should get over it and let them do what they want to do.

Zephyr
July 1st, 2009, 07:49 PM
I support it.
Everyone deserves to be loved,
And the government has no business telling the people whom they can and can't love.

Them try saying that gay marriage will lead to marriage to inanimate objects and such,
Is very ignorant of them, and it's like them saying that homosexuals arn't in their right minds.
They're people too, and should not be treated like a 2nd class citizen.

ShatteredWings
July 1st, 2009, 07:54 PM
Marriage is not just the church ceremonies. it's rights to the property of both parties involved. Oh and and if one partner dies, if they're not married, the blood relatives of the person who died get everything, not the surviving partner. Fucked up right?


Everyone deserves to be loved,
And the government has no business telling the people whom they can and can't love.
I think steph puts this quite nicely.
I don't care your views on homosexuality in itself. You can't tell someone they shouldn't love someone because of that person's gender.

Reality
July 1st, 2009, 08:01 PM
Marriage is not just the church ceremonies. it's rights to the property of both parties involved. Oh and and if one partner dies, if they're not married, the blood relatives of the person who died get everything, not the surviving partner. Fucked up right?
Yeah, exactly.

UnholyConfessions
July 2nd, 2009, 05:21 AM
I personally myself see homosexuality as wrong. Same sex sexual relations to me seem very disturbing, however, that is just me having a problem with the physical side to the relationships. Really, homosexual marriage should be allowed because at the end of the day, if people are in love, albeit gay in this case, they still should be allowed to be together.

Triceratops
July 2nd, 2009, 08:26 AM
I 100% support same-sex marriages.

Relationships are about love, not gender.

Spin
July 2nd, 2009, 09:22 AM
There's a simple solution for those who oppose gay marriage, don't get one. I'm so sick of people sticking their noses in other people's business. There's absolutely no valid reason why same-sex couples shouldn't be able to get married. It does not ruin the sanctity of marriage. Divorce and stupid reality shows where complete strangers who are STRAIGHT compete to marry someone who they barely know is what is ruining the definition of marriage. If gay marriage is illegal than I guess divorce should be too. 'Cause wedding vows state "till death do us part", right? Gays are almost like a scape goat for straight people because we finally realized that we fucked it all up and we need someone else to blame. Now, I'm straight myself and I will fully admit that straight people are the reason marriages mean shit today.

Also, I have a question for people who think being gay or having gay sex is wrong. We all know how homosexual men have sex, right? If not, look it up or ask mom and dad. Anyways, I'm not sure if some of you know but the male g-spot is in their ass. "God" created all men like this. Now women can't reach it without certain items, so what does that mean? This simply means that "God" made it so two men could have sex. Well, I guess being gay and having gay sex isn't so wrong afterall, huh?

punkjake
July 2nd, 2009, 02:10 PM
If you read my old poplar post about gay rights and god you should know but yes i do support it

sebbie
July 2nd, 2009, 02:17 PM
I think it should be legal for civil ceremonies, but forcing it to be practised in a religious setting should not be done by legal intervention as that would be encroaching on peoples beliefs.

Death
July 2nd, 2009, 03:02 PM
There's nothing wrong with gay marriage. It's intolerance that makes people oppose it and that's down-right discriminate. Oh wow, 2 males or 2 females are getting married; of what concern is it to you? None. Don't like homosexual marriage? Don't have or attend a homosexual marriage. Simple as that. Gays/lesbians can't help being what they are and people need to learn to be more accepting and nice. Religion is no excuse here. If homosexual marriage is against your religion, then you need to start revising your beliefs carefully.

So, speaking as a heterosexual, gay/lesbian marriage is fine and I'm all for it.

MyNameIsJack
July 2nd, 2009, 03:32 PM
It's fine, I support it
It's about love.
I'm straight btw.

Θάνατος
July 2nd, 2009, 03:42 PM
I support it.
Everyone deserves to be loved,
And the government has no business telling the people whom they can and can't love.

Them try saying that gay marriage will lead to marriage to inanimate objects and such,
Is very ignorant of them, and it's like them saying that homosexuals aren't in their right minds.
They're people too, and should not be treated like a 2nd class citizen.


Wow I totally agree here. I think everyone should be able to feel loved it is one of our basic emotional needs.

I gay unions should be treated like a marriage and should have all the rights and benefits as a normal marriage.

Sage
July 2nd, 2009, 04:34 PM
I think it should be legal for civil ceremonies,

'Seperate but equal' never works. Ever.

sebbie
July 2nd, 2009, 05:32 PM
'Seperate but equal' never works. Ever.

But if a law was to be imposed that religions can not discriminate on sexuality, you would have a huge uproar. You cannot tell people to change their own personal beliefs or usually break years and years of tradition.

Generally I would say two gay people would get married to show their love for each other, so they would be able to do this through a civil ceremony, but I do not think there will be one religion that would approve of it.

In my opinion discrimination is in society and will always be unless everyone follows the same rules and beliefs without question or trying to change. Only thing that can be done is to try and help reduce the level of discrimination. This will often be done by separating groups but using legislation to make things equal.

Skeln
July 2nd, 2009, 06:19 PM
I would say that yes, they have a right to get married and I can see their reasn to want to get married. but honestly, in our current situation I don't think we have time to be argueing about something such as that. We have bigger problems to solve, so same-sex marriages I think can wait for about another year or two.

If two people love eachother, then they can still move in together sleep together and such, so really just being married doesn't give them any benefits as far as I know (I may be wrong though) so I think we should take care of first-priority things first before our governments debate about something as this. If the economy completly fails on us, then the whole world will suffer. If same-sex marriage isn't legalized in some places for another two years, then gays just have to put up with it for awhile. Governments should be focused on top-priority things at the moment and take care of this issue after the crisis is over.

BlackenedSilver
July 2nd, 2009, 06:25 PM
I support it completely.
Marriage is a symbol of love between 2 people who have been lucky enough to find someone they want to be with forever. ^_^ Nothing should stop people celebrating that love, Ever.
One of my friends has a beautiful idea for his marriage, it would unfair for him or really anyone to miss out on possible one of the happiest days of their lives.

ShatteredWings
July 2nd, 2009, 06:34 PM
'Seperate but equal' never works. Ever.

That's not 'separate but equal'
Not forcing a church to do the marriage is the simply showing the same tolerance of others that's being asked of the general public.

The reason 'civil unions' don't work is because in most places, the laws for a gay civil union are written differently from a marriage.

For the purposes of this argument, I've decided to look up definitions of marriage.
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*Marriage is an institution in which interpersonal relationships are acknowledged by the state...It is often viewed as a contract. Civil marriage is the legal concept of marriage as a governmental institution, in accordance with marriage laws of the jurisdiction
link. yes its Wikipedia, but it's also cited (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marriage)

*A union between two persons having the customary but usually not the legal force of marriage
from answers.com (http://www.answers.com/marriage)
--------------------------------------------------------

While traditionally marriage is between a man and a woman, it's beyond the religious ceremonious. It's legal. The problem with gay marriage not being accepted is not that most churches wont' accept it, it's that our government won't.


Anyways, I'm not sure if some of you know but the male g-spot is in their ass. "God" created all men like this. Now women can't reach it without certain items, so what does that mean? This simply means that "God" made it so two men could have sex. Well, I guess being gay and having gay sex isn't so wrong afterall, huh?
haha nice one there.
I really don't care to learn about male anatomy (sorry guys), but... assuming there's a god, he wouldn've made this possiable if he didn't want people to exploit it.

Camazotz
July 2nd, 2009, 08:33 PM
But if a law was to be imposed that religions can not discriminate on sexuality, you would have a huge uproar. You cannot tell people to change their own personal beliefs or usually break years and years of tradition.

Generally I would say two gay people would get married to show their love for each other, so they would be able to do this through a civil ceremony, but I do not think there will be one religion that would approve of it.

In my opinion discrimination is in society and will always be unless everyone follows the same rules and beliefs without question or trying to change. Only thing that can be done is to try and help reduce the level of discrimination. This will often be done by separating groups but using legislation to make things equal.

But the thing is, traditions should change through time. Traditions should adapt to newer moral beliefs, not keep the old ones. You would be ignoring generations of change, when the change may be necessary.

As Deschain said, "separate but equal" will not work. Everyone deserves equal rights, and if two people wish to get married, they should be able to do so. I will go so far to even acknowledge incestuous marriages to be legal, because any two people should be allowed to get married.

In my brightest and happiest dreams, discrimination in society will end. It will be a slow process, but if society becomes smart enough to become tolerant, we may see an end to any type of discrimination.

rainebg
July 3rd, 2009, 12:17 AM
I personally myself see homosexuality as wrong. Same sex sexual relations to me seem very disturbing, however, that is just me having a problem with the physical side to the relationships. Really, homosexual marriage should be allowed because at the end of the day, if people are in love, albeit gay in this case, they still should be allowed to be together.

Just because you dont like the idea of two guys having sex dosn't mean you think it's worng. I don't unerstand that? how an you support it and think its wrong.

I strongly support gay marriage.
I'm gay or bi (not sure)

guacamole24
July 4th, 2009, 07:14 PM
I support it 100%.

YourFriend
July 4th, 2009, 08:07 PM
i am gay, so i support it

Whisper
July 5th, 2009, 01:56 AM
they have every right to be as bitter and miserable as everyone else

Death
July 5th, 2009, 07:07 AM
they have every right to be as bitter and miserable as everyone else

Is this an insult against homosexuality?

And yes, I support it.

Sage
July 5th, 2009, 07:12 AM
Is this an insult against homosexuality?

And yes, I support it.

It's a joke against marriage, actually.

Hyper
July 5th, 2009, 07:16 AM
Legal union - Yes

Everything else that we perceive as marriage - No

The Harlequin
July 5th, 2009, 07:26 AM
I'm not sure but leaning towards saying yeah, I support it...

I mean for all intents and purposes I might end up in a same sex long-term relationship, so obviously I'd love to be able to get married without the barrier on my sexuality but... I dunno...

I guess I am for it, because until you make an equal footing on subjects like this, prejudiced people can always draw upon the 'Why you're different to us normal people' argument (that makes me sick) and therefore it feeds the flame of homophobia,

In fact, now I think about it ~ screw it, I'm for, and wish I could change my stupid vote....

ShatteredWings
July 5th, 2009, 09:46 AM
Is this an insult against homosexuality?

And yes, I support it.

No, that's just Kodie's sence of humour towards marrage.

DarkWingedAngel
July 5th, 2009, 09:58 AM
I support it 100%

Holding On*
July 5th, 2009, 12:48 PM
Everyone deserves love and I am 100% for gay rights and marriage and what not :D

UnholyConfessions
July 5th, 2009, 02:43 PM
Just because you dont like the idea of two guys having sex dosn't mean you think it's worng. I don't unerstand that? how an you support it and think its wrong.

I strongly support gay marriage.
I'm gay or bi (not sure)

I guess I might have worded myself wrong. Essentially I see same-sex relationships as wrong, but support same-sex marriage because it is unfair to deny people in love to be together. I think it's just the case of the idea of same-sex relationships just seem wrong to me, but I can understand that two people's love for each other shouldn't be denied marriage. If that makes sense? :what:

ThatDude93
July 5th, 2009, 04:04 PM
I am against gay marriage due to my religious beliefs. But I am more neutral when I think of it outside of religion.

marty
July 5th, 2009, 06:42 PM
I would just like to point out to people that in no way will the addition of gay marriage to the laws force any church to perform them. Gay marriages will be performed by the state. Churches have every right not to perform them if it's against their religion, and no gay marriage law in the country, even the ones being voted on currently, includes the forcing of churches to allow same sex marriage.

ThatDude93
July 5th, 2009, 07:58 PM
I don't know if that was a random comment you felt like expressing or if that was aimed at me. Either way I figured that.

marty
July 5th, 2009, 08:30 PM
no, that wasn't directed at you, that was directed at sebbie. he said :
"But if a law was to be imposed that religions can not discriminate on sexuality, you would have a huge uproar. You cannot tell people to change their own personal beliefs or usually break years and years of tradition."

I was telling him that religions will not have to change their values or practices

Rainstorm
July 5th, 2009, 09:10 PM
I basically feel that anyone, gay, bi-sexual, or whatever other sexual orientation, should have the right to get married like any straight person. Just because some people have different preferences doesn't mean people can discriminate against others by not allowing them to get married, and basically, the church is to egotistic I believe to see that because they are a bunch of pompous assholes.

I don't see why straight people should be so afraid of gay marriage. Your not the one getting married, your not gay, so why try and take that privilege away because someone's different? I just feel it is bs

sebbie
July 6th, 2009, 09:41 AM
no, that wasn't directed at you, that was directed at sebbie. he said :
"But if a law was to be imposed that religions can not discriminate on sexuality, you would have a huge uproar. You cannot tell people to change their own personal beliefs or usually break years and years of tradition."

I was telling him that religions will not have to change their values or practices

This is the kind of gay marriage I support :)

Viral Death
July 6th, 2009, 11:49 AM
They are people that love the same sex no problem with that!

MadManWithaBox
July 6th, 2009, 12:29 PM
I am whole heartedly for it.

Death
July 8th, 2009, 03:24 PM
It's a joke against marriage, actually.

Oh. In that case I must have misunderstood it and I apologise.

Gays and lesbians hould have the right to do everything to and with each other that straight people can. This includes marriage, intimate stuff, anything. To belive that they can do anything less is intolerance.

JackOfClubs
July 10th, 2009, 06:26 AM
I support same-sex marriage completely. Gays shouldn't be deprived of the basic right of marriage that straight people get. You don't choose your sexuality, it just happens.

Sugaree
July 10th, 2009, 11:22 AM
I find no reason to ban same-sex marriage. If a man wants to marry another man or if a woman wants to marry a woman, it shouldn't matter. No one can tell you who to love, because we can't be controlled like that. The government needs to stay out of matters such as this, because they should have no bussiness in this. Everyone deserves the right to marry who they want and when they want, with or without government support.

INFERNO
July 10th, 2009, 01:51 PM
I view marriage as a bond between two humans of some gender and some sexual orientation. I view homosexuals as people, as humans so to me, going against gay marriage would have to show why homosexuals aren't humans. I vote that I support it.

Sugaree
July 10th, 2009, 03:39 PM
I view homosexuals as people, as humans so to me, going against gay marriage would have to show why homosexuals aren't humans..

That's the part that irritates me about people against gay marriage. They act as if homosexuals are some type of different species and shouldn't have the same rights we have. I believe some people should keep this in their minds: "Whatever God hath joined together, let no man put asunder."

Generally, this statement refers to divorce. You marry someone and then divorce them. Marriage is something that God has joined together, no matter if it is a man with a man or a woman with another woman. No person has the right to take away the privilage of marriage from another.

Antares
July 10th, 2009, 07:11 PM
Well first of all I think that marriage should be completely religious. If you want to get married, then I think that it only has anything to do with a church. The only thing that the government has to deal with is uniting two people legally for tax reasons, insurance reasons, etc. Maybe we should coin a new term for that.

But in general I am all for two people being married in the sense that they get the same rights as a man-woman couple. They should get the same tax things, insurance things, etc. Now whether they can be married by a church, thats the churches decision. I could care less about whether the church decides to marry them but in the legal sense I guess I agree with gay "marriage" and I don't mind seeing gay couples together

Sage
July 10th, 2009, 07:28 PM
I recognize that for many, marriage is a religious thing, but there are some churches that are willing to go through with same-sex marriages. The government shouldn't force any church to marry homosexuals if they don't want to, but making a law against it that applies to every church or wedding service is ridiculous.

Neverender
July 11th, 2009, 01:21 AM
Well nowadays, marriages are more civil then religious. Becuase theres the ceremony. yay. then come the tax dollars and the mutual bank accounts and liscenses and insurance and everything else.

I am 100% for gay marriage, just the government isnt. Because it "would do harm for the economy".

O_o How? because companies would have to extend insurance benefits to a gay couple like they would with a straight.

Death
July 12th, 2009, 06:56 PM
Marriage should be allowed between anyone who is old enough. Marriage should also not have to be religious (although I don't believe that this is actually called marriage though) since that seems to be very limiting when it comes to religious freedom.

junkie
July 21st, 2009, 10:52 AM
i dont support gay marriage due to my religious believes i think its against human nature.

Camazotz
July 22nd, 2009, 03:41 PM
i dont support gay marriage due to my religious believes i think its against human nature.

Many species of animals sometimes have sex with the same gender. If anything, I would say this behavior is more natural than Christians would like to think.

sebbie
July 23rd, 2009, 06:44 AM
Many species of animals sometimes have sex with the same gender. If anything, I would say this behavior is more natural than Christians would like to think.

Maybe he is not Christian :cool:

Also if I saw 2 animals the same gender having sex I would not think that was natural. :eek:

Also can we really compare human nature to animal nature, I would think not, we have a higher sense of counciousness (spelling ? :whoops: ).

Also the general view of sex by most religions is that it should only be done for procreation not recreation, so same gender relationships are not about procreation.

junkie
July 23rd, 2009, 08:47 AM
Maybe he is not Christian :cool:

Also if I saw 2 animals the same gender having sex I would not think that was natural. :eek:

Also can we really compare human nature to animal nature, I would think not, we have a higher sense of counciousness (spelling ? :whoops: ).

Also the general view of sex by most religions is that it should only be done for procreation not recreation, so same gender relationships are not about procreation.

agree and am not christian :cool:

Sage
July 23rd, 2009, 08:58 AM
Also if I saw 2 animals the same gender having sex I would not think that was natural.

Then you're ignorant, because clearly you're seeing it right before your eyes, in nature, and therefore it's natural.

Also can we really compare human nature to animal nature, I would think not,

Yes, we can, because we all share ancestry with other animals.

Also the general view of sex by most religions is that it should only be done for procreation not recreation, so same gender relationships are not about procreation.

And neither are relationships between sterile males and/or infertile females.

mrp1221
July 23rd, 2009, 09:04 AM
regardless of your religious beliefs, you have to agree that two people in love have the right to get married. i vote yes, all the way.

Church
July 23rd, 2009, 06:59 PM
I support gay marriage and I hate the bigot Christians who have their heads to far up their ass to care about other people's happiness.

The Harlequin
July 23rd, 2009, 07:29 PM
I support gay marriage and I hate the bigot Christians who have their heads to far up their ass to care about other people's happiness.

It's not just Christianity though, is it? There are other religions that also heavily oppose gay marriage or partnerships altogether...

Church
July 23rd, 2009, 07:30 PM
Christians in America where most of the arguments are is what I'm talking about.

Reality
July 23rd, 2009, 07:32 PM
That's so ironic coming from a guy named "Chruch". Lawl.

Church
July 23rd, 2009, 07:34 PM
My name comes from the comedy series Red vs. Blue, the only reason I use this name anymore is because most the sigs I made have the name 'Church' in them and don't want people to think I ripped the sigs, my pref. user name is Eclyptic.

scuba steve
July 23rd, 2009, 07:35 PM
it depends on who you talk to a christian would babble about the sanctity of marriage and all this but im not really sure, i would feel uncomfortable if was with someone who was involved in a same sex marriage

Reality
July 23rd, 2009, 07:39 PM
My name comes from the comedy series Red vs. Blue, the only reason I use this name anymore is because most the sigs I made have the name 'Church' in them and don't want people to think I ripped the sigs, my pref. user name is Eclyptic.
"Church" in like.. a signature like that looks funny. lol.
Same if it was in like a bloody one.

Sage
July 23rd, 2009, 10:12 PM
it depends on who you talk to a christian would babble about the sanctity of marriage and all this but im not really sure, i would feel uncomfortable if was with someone who was involved in a same sex marriage

'Sanctity of marriage' is a joke. The idea of marrying for love is a fairly modern concept, and for thousands of years, it was mostly security on a property transaction.

vito22andolini
July 25th, 2009, 12:05 AM
who are the stupids who said no ?!

The Harlequin
July 27th, 2009, 11:58 AM
who are the stupids who said no ?!

I was a stupid who said 'Not sure' and then was like *fail* as I actually realised I agreed with it... (:^.

Viral Death
July 27th, 2009, 12:05 PM
They have my support!

Whisper
July 27th, 2009, 02:02 PM
I love how everywhere you go EVERYONE is freaking about same sex marriage
some are pro, some are against

yet very few people ever mention if they should have the right to divorce
and as such
in ALLOT of areas
they legally aren't allowed too

society is so easy to distract
lawl

Maverick
July 27th, 2009, 04:14 PM
who are the stupids who said no ?!
Just because someone doesn't support same sex marriage doesn't mean they are stupid. Its their opinion and belief. You can disagree with it but be respectful of it.

I don't think churches should be forced to marry same sex couples because it goes against their beliefs and that should be respected.

However if it is done a non-religious way or in a church will marry same sex couples, I'm all for it.

I personally would not get married to a guy because I am not religious and I see marriage as a religious ceremony. Also it would be odd to be pronounced husband and husband. At least for me. I don't care about other people.

YourFriend
July 28th, 2009, 12:40 PM
I personally would not get married to a guy because I am not religious and I see marriage as a religious ceremony. Also it would be odd to be pronounced husband and husband. At least for me. I don't care about other people.

Same for me. A relationship is enough for me.

dstnyisurs
July 29th, 2009, 02:48 AM
It's all love. Gay love, straight love, what does it matter? Better love then hate. I support not forcing the churches to marry, but allowing legally married same-sex couples to get the same rights as straight couples.
All you need is love. (: