Ruined?

[pkid]

Ok so I'm a 15 year old guy and I have honors in basically everything academically, I have tons of awards in sports, I'm pretty popular with both the guys and girls in my school and other schools, also through my parents popularity.. Anyways I'm just very confused because I don't want to ruin my reputation by asking one of my guys friends if he wants to "experiment" and well idk what I should do.

Please help me.

[sildavin]

How long have you been friends with him?

[pkid]

How long have you been friends with him?

Well since 6th grade.. We aren't really that close but we are close enough that we tell each other secrets.. And I know he would probably want to because he acts like it sort of

[sildavin]

It's completely natural to want to experiment with him, you have known him for a few years yes? I'm not going to say you should just flat out ask him if he wants to jerk off or anything like that. Maybe talk to him about his opinions about Gays and what not, and see if he is against or welcome to gays/gay activity. Maybe ask if he's every watched porn, you know, simple questions, if he changes the conversation, he may not be comfortable. You will have to move slow to find out where he stands first, maybe, if you're lucky he'll ask you, or you'll spark an interest in curiosity from him. But do be careful, this could make him uncomfortable to the point where he not be friends with you. Just whatever you do. Dont force him into anything he doesnt want to talk about or do.

[pkid]

Ok thanks. But you know like when a group of us guys talk we usually like make fun or as that gay guys are weird and I do that too, so does he.. So idk which side he really is on

[sildavin]

I see. Most people feel that being gay, is wrong, immoral, you name it. So, obviously those who are openly gay are ridiculed and made fun of a lot, and to fit in, people are more then willing to make fun of them so they aren't all of a sudden a target. The easiest way is to get him alone and get to know him a little better. Maybe get on the topic of a gay person at school or something and see how he feels about them or something along those lines.

[pkid]

Ok. Well can you help me as to how to start a conversation with him and going into the wanting to do things type thing.

[sildavin]

lol. Now. That is much harder for me. don't do anything you aren't comfortable with for starters, and if he says stop or something like that, then stop. dont hound on him.

If he ever sleeps over you could try Truth or Dare, you know, get him to open up that way without leading him on to your intentions, and he might even dare you to do something that will lead to your experiments, if you have a pool and your parents let you use it while they are away, ask him if he's everr skinny dipped before, if not, offer to see if he wants to try it or not. if you guys ever jokingly pantsed someone before, when you're in your PJ's, if you still wear them, or boxers or swim suit, you could pants him, chances are, he might try to get you back,

There are a number of ways you can instigate what you want without actually flat out asking. Just keep in mind it could all go down hill and you could lose a friend and gain a bad rep, but it works out, the benefits for you, could out way the risks.

[pkid]

Ok.. Hey can you email me what you just told me?

Thanks!

[sildavin]

Lol. Do you want it all? or just what i said in the last post? ;)
and be careful about putting your email up. I have it, but now you dont know who else has it. hehe

[pkid]

Ok thanks! And probably all of it

[sildavin]

its been emailed :)

[nick]

OK, I'm bi myself so I certainly dont think there's anything wrong with a bit of experimentation. But I would suggest you dont do anything to try to engineer a situation or ask for this to happen. Just wait and see if an opportunity arises, dont try to force anything, that wont work.

[Gangsturr10]

you should just ask him, you guys seem like really close friends

[SlightlySane]

Let's look at it this way. Most guys like things blunt and to the point instead of walking in circles around a subject. Before you do anything you have to decide if you are A, willing to take the risk of ruining your reputation. B, trust him enough not to say anything if you ask or something happens.

Just decide whether or not you are confertable enough with him. If you decide you are tell him you want to ask him something that is a little weird and make him promise not to freak out or something like that. Just let him now you are nervous. Then you can tell him you want to experiment and see what he says. Just let him know that you don't like want to screw him or anything just do small stuff.

[pkid]

Let's look at it this way. Most guys like things blunt and to the point instead of walking in circles around a subject. Before you do anything you have to decide if you are A, willing to take the risk of ruining your reputation. B, trust him enough not to say anything if you ask or something happens.

Just decide whether or not you are confertable enough with him. If you decide you are tell him you want to ask him something that is a little weird and make him promise not to freak out or something like that. Just let him now you are nervous. Then you can tell him you want to experiment and see what he says. Just let him know that you don't like want to screw him or anything just do small stuff.

Thanks for the advice. But Im not ready to ruin my reputation and popularity. But I do like your advice on what/how I should tell him.

[SlightlySane]

I'm glad I could help that was just in the idea that you are willing to take this risk, but sometimes the risks outway what we think of as positives

[IanMilo]

okay well my advice just have a few sleepovers together sleep in boxers get close(friend wise) then talk about stuff to do and when you start to run out of topics slowly bring in naked and dick size... chances are he will want to compare and from there do it yourself

[TurboDieselBandit]

Its great to be popular but always remember that some of the people who call you friend are only roll'in with you simply because you are popular and those are the people who often envy you, are jealous, and just cant stand the fact that you have something they don't; popularity. Thats why if they cant get something from you being popular, then they try to steal it, and if they cant steal it they try to destroy it.(your rep.) Its very good to get those people out of your social life because they will only bring you down and keep you down. Your real friends will be there for you despite your situation rich, poor, popular, an out cast, gay, straight, lesbian, Democrat, republican, whatever. They will not seek to hurt you, your feelings, or your reputation no matter what happens between the two of you; that is if they have any integrity. You reap what you sew if you sew respect, love, caring, and generosity into a relationship, that and more will you reap. I assume you are doing at least some of that since you are popular. You should think about what he might say and what you will say if it backfires and then go for it. Who knows, he could be wanting to do the same thing but you will never know unless you ask.

PS: Things never happen unless someone makes the first move.

[Midasman]

one night i spent the night at my friends house. we stayed up all night playing truth or dare and we started with questions like do u watch porn etc...
and before we knew it we had both jacked off and went skinny dipping in his pool
(it was dark outside)
we didnt touch each other but we had a good time "hanging out"
so it might ruin it it might not

[MoveAlong]

I wouldn't. Wanna risk all that?? I've done something like this before (but not with experimenting...). Now I'm ever so careful trying not to ruin my reputation.

In my own personal experience, reputation is something that is very valuable. If it works for you then you need to keep it.

The thing is I don't think that most guys NEED to experiment. Hell I didn't. I just wouldn't do it in your situation. Sorry.

[Roxy_]

I would never ask him if ur rep is that high. dont risk it

[tbboltz92]

My advice would be to do it with some one your really comfortable with. a really close freind. however you don't wanna just put it out there kinda ease into the coversation you know what i mean?