Being gay is NOT a choice

[Aneklusmos]

Cartoon clip from the documentary For the Bible Tells Me So

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what do you think of this?

[pkid]

Ok about the video, i think part of it is true..like the one if one twin is gay the other one is 70% gay at times...

[Commander Thor]

Cartoon clip from the documentary For the Bible Tells Me So

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what do you think of this?

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[Aneklusmos]

thanks brandon lol

[Perseus]

That was funny. Anyway, homosexuality is not a choice, but people will never accept that(some people).

[MoveAlong]

hahaha. Thank you! :):D

"shut up!"

[Aneklusmos]

You're welcome :D

[trevor20800]

being gay is not a choice. being publicly gay is. But just because i don't agree with people being gay, doesn't mean they should be hated for it. I everyone is equal.

[Sage]

being publicly gay is.

There is no reason anyone should have to hide who the are.

[Reality]

If being gay was a choice, would that make it wrong?

I don't see why so many people love to emphasize on the fact it's not a choice.

[orangecounty]

Sexual Orientation is not a choice. Period.

But it doesn't change the fact that I am opposed to gay marriage.

[MoveAlong]

I don't see why so many people love to emphasize on the fact it's not a choice.

Because there are so many people out there who think it's wrong and think it is a choice, so we can and should change it. But we can't. So in order to prove those people wrong we need to tell them it's not a choice and make up clever things like this video.

[ShatteredWings]

I don't see why so many people love to emphasize on the fact it's not a choice.
Because people will use the false argument that 'it's a choice' to 'prove' their point that it's 'wrong' to be gay. Paticurally in the church. They like to claim that because people 'choose' to be gay, then they can 'choose' to change back.
Sexual Orientation is not a choice. Period.

But it doesn't change the fact that I am opposed to gay marriage.
Do you mind explaining why you're against something that you acknowledge isn't a choice?

[marty]

yes, orangecounty, let's hear why you think that.

[LiGHT]

IMO I think being gay can be both a choice and not a choice. if you aren't turned on by women you are gay but its what happens to you during your life can help with that.

[orangecounty]

yes, orangecounty, let's hear why you think that.

I just think that the term marriage should be reserved for a man and a woman as it has for thousands of years. I am all for giving all the same rights to gay couples that married people have. If we redefine the term marriage to include gays wouldn't we have to expand it to other unconventional lifestyles like polygamy out of fairness? We can just agree to disagree I guess. Sorry if there are a spelling errors...am typing from a Blackberry.

[Sage]

I just think that the term marriage should be reserved for a man and a woman as it has for thousands of years. I am all for giving all the same rights to gay couples that married people have. If we redefine the term marriage to include gays wouldn't we have to expand it to other unconventional lifestyles like polygamy out of fairness? We can just agree to disagree I guess. Sorry if there are a spelling errors...am typing from a Blackberry.

That's the slippery slope logical fallacy. We wouldn't have to expand marriage to include something like polygamy because people choose to be polygamous. People do not choose to be gay just as people do not choose to be straight.

[Dreaming Cannibal]

well, its your point of view orangecounty, we cannot or should never try to change that. but let me tell you that polygamy can be as conventional as a normal marriage if all the persons involved on the marriage accepts it why shouldn't society accept them? It's not inconvenient only different from the usual.

And on the threat note. Well it is my opinion that it isnt a choice but its not only part of your genes. If a male is raised by pure women, that male is bounded to be feminine and his sexual orientation can diverse too. I've seen it happen before so i understand it. That male can also turn out to be bisexual cause he been exposed to both maybe? not sure about this.
it is not a choice. i know that i didn't choose to like man and woman lol

[orangecounty]

QUOTE=Deschain;558880]That's the slippery slope logical fallacy. We wouldn't have to expand marriage to include something like polygamy because people choose to be polygamous. People do not choose to be gay just as people do not choose to be straight.[/QUOTE]

Whether it's a choice or not it is still changing the definition of marriage and once you change it for one group...then it would be unfair to forbid other groups like polygamists, people who want to marry themselves, etc. You allow one variation in marriage you would have to allow all others as well.

[Sage]

QUOTE=Deschain;558880]That's the slippery slope logical fallacy. We wouldn't have to expand marriage to include something like polygamy because people choose to be polygamous. People do not choose to be gay just as people do not choose to be straight.

Whether it's a choice or not it is still changing the definition of marriage and once you change it for one group...then it would be unfair to forbid other groups like polygamists, people who want to marry themselves, etc. You allow one variation in marriage you would have to allow all others as well.[/QUOTE]

A few decades ago we changed the definition to include interracial couples, there is no reason fo gays or polygamists to be excluded. When it comes to the case of something else though, like marrying yourself, that can't be done because marriage is between two (or more) people. It's like trying to clap with one hand. If you get into talking about people wanting to marry their pets or inanimate objects, that will never happen, because only people have the mental capacity to understand what they are agreeing to and give consent.