Why does French people hate Americans?

[lamboman43]

Why do they? If it wasn't for us they would be speaking German. And the way they treat us, that might be the best thing. Friends of my family work in the military. They have been to both Germany and France. They say the French are rude and the Germans are awesome. There is something wrong with that picture. We killed Germans, we saved the French. So why do the French hate us so much?

Maybe someone from France can clarify why they hate us so much.

[foof1]

good point

[Techno Monster]

It is not all French, there are Europeans out there who highly dislike Americans and America.
It was mainly because of Bush, and the War in Iraq...
And then there is WWII, and the states rivalry against Russia, too.
Yeah, here is a paragraph I found that a Euro wrote about why the tend to butt heads with Americans:
The answer is easy enough. Your imperialistic claims in middle east are starting to bother us. You are like a child, you play with power but you are ignorant of what your actions can cause. War in Iraq is one of the biggest reasons, also you are a bit too cocky, and not at all bright. Yet for some reason you think that you are better then anyone else and are moraly on a higher plane, although if anyone has enough brains to look deeper then the surface (you don't) they will see that moraly you are much below europe. Plus once again i come back to your imperialistic foreign policy. Hope this explains it to you. I am sure that most americans here are gonna reply with "You're just jealous cause we are americans and we are richer and fatter then you", sorry kids, i am not jealous of you. You live in a dream, and you can't get out, even if you want to. Your opinion of the world is formed by which television channel you prefer to watch. Your personal freedom are limited by strict law. You aren't free, you just lack the intellect to realize it. Its like Lenin said "Religion is like opium for the people", well i must say liberty is like opium to you.
Of course that was just one guys opinion, but I also have a friend who went to France last year and she got stopped twice on the street by two different people who said something along the lines of,
"Do you even know what your ignorant country has done?!"

[xavierhonre]

lol, I don't think the french hate americans. Think about it this way, you think that all french people hate americans, it's quite possible that they have a similar, just a skewed image of us.

I study french in school and I can clarify that the french don't have the same sense of humor that we do. They aren't rude, they just don't laugh at everything. And, what makes me happy, they don't interrupt you during a meal to ask you if you are enjoying yourself (that's one of my pet peeves, if I wanted someone to interrupt my meal I would ask for it!). So I don't think that the french don't hate americans, they just don't act like us.

And I agree with the post above. Our leaders are ignorant and it reflects onto the rest of the world. Mind you, just as we are judging them for being "rude" they judge us for being "ignorant"

[lamboman43]

lol, I don't think the french hate americans. Think about it this way, you think that all french people hate americans, it's quite possible that they have a similar, just a skewed image of us.

I study french in school and I can clarify that the french don't have the same sense of humor that we do. They aren't rude, they just don't laugh at everything. And, what makes me happy, they don't interrupt you during a meal to ask you if you are enjoying yourself (that's one of my pet peeves, if I wanted someone to interrupt my meal I would ask for it!). So I don't think that the french don't hate americans, they just don't act like us.

And I agree with the post above. Our leaders are ignorant and it reflects onto the rest of the world. Mind you, just as we are judging them for being "rude" they judge us for being "ignorant"


No they are rude to us. Go to France. Tell people you are from America. And see if yyou come back without getting insulted or maybe even beat up.

[xavierhonre]

I will be going to France next summer so I'll see for myself.

[lamboman43]

I will be going to France next summer so I'll see for myself.

Is it on a field trip or are you with parents?

[Perseus]

A word to the wise. My French teacher told our class us if we ever go to France, say you're Candian.

[xavierhonre]

It's with my class. But my teacher could pass as french. He lived in france for three years and has an impeccable accent. He had no trouble when he lived in france, lol.

[lamboman43]

It's with my class. But my teacher could pass as french. He lived in france for three years and has an impeccable accent. He had no trouble when he lived in france, lol.

Thats why they wont say anything to you. You are with a huge group of people. They wont insult a huge group of people. That huge group might kill them.

[Perseus]

Thats why they wont say anything to you. You are with a huge group of people. They wont insult a huge group of people. That huge group might kill them.

Lol, I highly doubt a bunch a kids are gonna be lynching a bunch of French people because of insults. That made my day

[Atonement]

As stated, its not just the French that have a stigma against Americans. Also, if you have been to the D-Day Museum and Memorial near Paris, you will understand how much they honor what we did for them. But most Americans are incredibly ignorant to the world and many people hate what we do in the world. We need to mind our own business.

[Neverender]

Why do they? If it wasn't for us they would be speaking German. And the way they treat us, that might be the best thing. Friends of my family work in the military. They have been to both Germany and France. They say the French are rude and the Germans are awesome. There is something wrong with that picture. We killed Germans, we saved the French. So why do the French hate us so much?

Maybe someone from France can clarify why they hate us so much.

France doesn't like America for 1 reason. All the americans are ignorant. They love Canada, and so does Belgium, we are not ignorant to the needs of the world.

No they are rude to us. Go to France. Tell people you are from America. And see if yyou come back without getting insulted or maybe even beat up.

They dont like americans because they're ignorant, as already stated.

[ratiug]

Well I think this anti-american behaviour has been promoted by French goverment. They started to promote a single french culture since USA was influencing to much on ther language. Words like e-mail leaked into their language and they started to find it intolerable so they made their translations so that the french culture could remain intact. This is also due to since English has become the language of bussiness and its all over the place. Still the French are grateful for what USA did for them and the relations between both countries couldn't be better.

[pkid]

Its mostly because of the past. Remember in our history class? Both the French (French people helped us) and America fought against the British to get American Independence..Then later on when the French and British fought each other, we didnt help the French people.. (We didnt want to get inbetween the war)

[Neverender]

No they are rude to us. Go to France. Tell people you are from America. And see if yyou come back without getting insulted or maybe even beat up.

That is kinda ignorant/sterotypical. Just to prove me and Addi's points.

[lamboman43]

France doesn't like America for 1 reason. All the americans are ignorant. They love Canada, and so does Belgium, we are not ignorant to the needs of the world.



They dont like americans because they're ignorant, as already stated.


So EVERY SINGLE American is ignorent. I think that is an ignorent statement. Not EVERY SINGLE American is ignorent.

Its mostly because of the past. Remember in our history class? Both the French (French people helped us) and America fought against the British to get American Independence..Then later on when the French and British fought each other, we didnt help the French people.. (We didnt want to get inbetween the war)
What about us helping them in World War 2? The French are like " Even though you saved our butts in World War 2 and saved 100,000's of people and saved us all from speaking German, we still hate your guts." Lovely, if "EVERY SINGLE BORN" American is ignorent cant France be the bigger country and let it be.

But if you think EVERY SINGLE AMERICAN is ignorent then the whole world is ignorent. If you think that all the little things some Americans say is ignorent then the WHOLE ENTIRE WORLD is ignorent.

[redcar]

Why do they? If it wasn't for us they would be speaking German. And the way they treat us, that might be the best thing. Friends of my family work in the military. They have been to both Germany and France. They say the French are rude and the Germans are awesome. There is something wrong with that picture. We killed Germans, we saved the French. So why do the French hate us so much?

Maybe someone from France can clarify why they hate us so much.
It is statements like this that give Americans a bad name.

And it's not just the French, Europe in general. They dont hate individual Americans they hate that a lot of Americans think they and America are God's gift to the world.

Statements like this really piss me off. Like what are you looking for? The French to get down on bended knees and thank you for something that happened over 50 years ago?

[lamboman43]

It is statements like this that give Americans a bad name.

And it's not just the French, Europe in general. They dont hate individual Americans they hate that a lot of Americans think they and America are God's gift to the world.

Statements like this really piss me off. Like what are you looking for? The French to get down on bended knees and thank you for something that happened over 50 years ago?

Did i say i wanted them to bend on there knees? NO!!! I say they should respect us. WE deserve more respect than they give us. And they dont hate individual Americans. They hate all of them. All because of a number of people. Europe should open there narrow eyes and see that not all Americans a bad. And it's not just the Europeans either. It's the Canadians. Ask anyone on this site that is Canadian and they will say they dont like America. And dont say you like us because you know you dont.

You guys hated us for retaliating against Al-Queda when they toppled our buildings. You will hate us when we attack North Korea for nuking Hawaii. You will hate us when we attack Iran for attacking our allies. You will hate us no matter what we do. You guys will never not hate us. If we are attacked by another country you will hate us for retaliating. There is no stop to the hate. Never ever will citizens from other countries like us.

[Requin]

Exactly. This has pissed me off completely. Especially this bit would be speaking German

I hate when people say that. Why do people try and claim credit for the war? Millions and millions of people died in that war. Millions from every country. Stop taking credit, it was a war, lots of people died. No one won.

All we did was stop Hitler. That was it. The reason people don't like americans is becuase you get the odd person like you who has said something like that.

And, please remember before saying that they all hate you. What did they give you?
Oh that's right The Statue of Fucking liberty. They gave that to you, what more do you want?

Americans do that whole "Would be speaking german if not for us" and it really really pisses me off. The war is more than just like it seems on Call of Duty. Wake up and smell the roses. Talk to someone who was there, talk to someone like my Grandad who drove into the Jewish Concentration camps in Poland and saw that.

I apologise in advance. Just in case.

They gave you this didn't they? The reasons I may not agree with as i'm british. But they gave you it. Why should countries give you respect? When you try to 'police the world'. (Watch Team America)

http://www.tourismjunction.com/images/statue-of-liberty-ny.jpg

[lamboman43]

Exactly. This has pissed me off completely. Especially this bit

I hate when people say that. Why do people try and claim credit for the war? Millions and millions of people died in that war. Millions from every country. Stop taking credit, it was a war, lots of people died. No one won.

All we did was stop Hitler. That was it. The reason people don't like americans is becuase you get the odd person like you who has said something like that.

And, please remember before saying that they all hate you. What did they give you?
Oh that's right The Statue of Fucking liberty. They gave that to you, what more do you want?

Americans do that whole "Would be speaking german if not for us" and it really really pisses me off. The war is more than just like it seems on Call of Duty. Wake up and smell the roses. Talk to someone who was there, talk to someone like my Grandad who drove into the Jewish Concentration camps in Poland and saw that.

I apologise in advance. Just in case.

They gave you this didn't they? The reasons I may not agree with as i'm british. But they gave you it. Why should countries give you respect? When you try to 'police the world'. (Watch Team America)

http://www.tourismjunction.com/images/statue-of-liberty-ny.jpg

LOL ROFL LMAO!!! You want us to love France because they gave us a statue? But let me change this around a bit.



Why are the Germans nice to us?

[Requin]

I'm saying that they don't hate your guts. But lets be honest. Who does like your country in the world?

Its a sad fact, people in Europe don't like us becuase we've helped each other (kind off), basically we have gone to war with you. (I say we, I mean our poor troops and our leaders ordered it). No countries 'love' each other. Its natural tribal terretory bullshit. Its in our blood sadly. Primal instict.

Anyway...It's a pretty awesome statue. Oh and btw have you met any french people? Like properly in their country.

This thread will get locked eventually as it'll turn bad, so I'm not taking part in much more of it. :P

[lamboman43]

But then why are the Germans so nice to us? IT doesn't make since that they are nice to us.

Its a sad fact, people in Europe don't like us becuase we've helped each other (kind off), basically we have gone to war with you. (I say we, I mean our poor troops and our leaders ordered it). No countries 'love' each other. Its natural tribal terretory bullshit. Its in our blood sadly. Primal instict

If it's in all our blood then why do you people hate mostly just Americans? Hate yourself too, and your best friend, and your leader, and your teachers.

[Requin]

I don't know. Ask them. I'm not german. Neither are you. Becuase they its the past and they want to put it beyond them?

Its not exactly something you'd want to remember if you were german is it?

[Donkey]

:( I dislike the idea of two countries disliking each other.

But, there are American stereotypes out there. Some French people follow them, but not all of them. You're just as bad: you're stereotyping all French people as those who dislike America.

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[lamboman43]

:( I dislike the idea of two countries disliking each other.

But, there are American stereotypes out there. Some French people follow them, but not all of them. You're just as bad: you're stereotyping all French people as those who dislike America.

WusHDsK1yBQ

I know I'm just as bad. Everyone sterotypes other countries. You know you do.

But I would love if every country loved each other. But it ain't gonna happen. The Iranians hate America too, and it will be impossible to get on there good side. The same with Frech. They are stubborn as is every country. And most of it comes from the influence of Government (Sarkozy) and sterotypes. The French government doesn't really like us either. And I wouldn't stereotype them like that if they were nicer. I'm not asking them to shower the U.S. with gifts or anything, just more respect.

[Requin]

That's the french famous arrogance for ya. :P

There not arrogant as a nation. Of course there not. They just appreciate what they have. And they have a beautiful country, with great (apparently) food and a lot of very good wine.

No country is perfect. But there a socialist government if I can remember correctly from my History lesson. NOT cheese eating surrender monkeys. (Which is from the simpsons, which is...american?) But that was a joke and a funny one. :)

Anyway...

[Perseus]

Tanner, Germany was brainwashed and persuaded by Hitler to believe that the Aryan race was supperior to everyone else. In fact, most of Germany wasn't even part of the Nazi party but their economy was so bad in the shitter that they believed that he would fix the economy and everything. Why would Germans hate us? By your sayings, Japan and Italy should hate us as well. Leaders of countries are what cause these horrible things, not the people.

[nick]

Why do they? If it wasn't for us they would be speaking German.

I'm afraid I agree with Requin, a statement like that goes some way towards answering your own question. WWII was won by a collection of allies, yes the USA played a major part, but were preceived to come into the war very late on and somewhat reluctantly. Also, whether you like this or not, the war could not have been won without the Russians.

As an aside, were you aware that a film "Enigma" was made a few years ago showing the events where a US submarine crew captured a german enigma coding machine and thereby helped to shorten the war? It was complete bollucks, the enigma machine was captured by the british. Its things like that that annoy people.

Why should countries give you respect? When you try to 'police the world'. (Watch Team America)
I agree with the watch Team America comment too, this film really is about how America is viewed by large parts of the world. A rather gung-ho, shoot first ask questions later attitude is the stereotype.

I dont say that I entirely aggree with these sentiments, but I do understand them. I know that there are loads of really nice americans on here and I hope no one will be offended. But since the question was asked...

Incidentally, French people in the rural areas are generally very friendly towards the british, altough some people just give all foreigners the cold shoulder. But Parisians, and especially cafe staff, waiters, etc. are famously rude.

[Neverender]

So EVERY SINGLE American is ignorent. I think that is an ignorent statement. Not EVERY SINGLE American is ignorent.

Americans as a whole are ignorant. No one thinks of each individual person when thinking of a country, they think of the majority (or sterotype).

We think of Turkey as a muslim nation, do we not? but that doesn't mean everyone there is a muslim. (only 99.5% are).

[lamboman43]

Americans as a whole are ignorant. No one thinks of each individual person when thinking of a country, they think of the majority (or sterotype).

We think of Turkey as a muslim nation, do we not? but that doesn't mean everyone there is a muslim. (only 99.5% are).

Well I think of Turkey as having lots of Turkeys:P:P:P Even though that isn't true.

[redcar]

Did i say i wanted them to bend on there knees? NO!!! I say they should respect us. WE deserve more respect than they give us.
I hope you are still not referring to WWII here. If so get over yourself. The Irish gave the weather reports for the D-Day landings even though we were technically neutral, but do you see me demanding eternal respect from the French? Give me strength.

They hate all of them. All because of a number of people. Europe should open there narrow eyes and see that not all Americans a bad. And it's not just the Europeans either. It's the Canadians.
Narrow eyes? Thats rich. You know some of the worlds most free press are in Europe yet you call us narrow?

You guys hated us for retaliating against Al-Queda when they toppled our buildings.
Actually we stood in solidarity with you on that one. Didn't bother to notice eh?

You will hate us when we attack North Korea for nuking Hawaii.
Thats a bit pre emptive don't you think?

If we are attacked by another country you will hate us for retaliating. There is no stop to the hate. Never ever will citizens from other countries like us.
You really need to get over yourself and your superior complex of the USA. I am surprised still that you can not see why some people dont like America.

This thread is the reason. There are some Americans who think they and their country is Gods gift to the world and that they are in charge and some kind of freedom fighters saving everyone else from injustice. We Europeans dont like that attitude. Simple as.

[ratiug]

I wonder what they think about Puerto Ricans...

[Underground_Network]

I've wanted Puerto Rico to be the 52nd state for awhile now...

(Antarctica shall be the 51st... We need penguins in the United States!) :penguin:

But in all seriousness, this thread is pretty sad. No country hates another country. Countries don't have emotions (the people in them do, and all of them have their own individual opinions... If a majority of a country hates another country, that doesn't mean the ENTIRE country hates that country... And if every country loved every other country we wouldn't have to worry about nuclear or biological warfare...)

[Poetic Folly]

They helped us during our Revolution, but we were like "No way bitch" when they asked us to help in theirs.

[Whisper]

For the record I don't hate all Americans a great deal of my friends are American
What pisses me off
the people I hate
are ones like you
wither they're American, Canadian, European, Australian, etc...
You are NO better then me nor do you deserve ANY more respect

Don't ever bring the last world war into a debate like this or use it as your main grounding for why they owe you
It took America 3 fucking years to join the FIRST war (I realize we were a colony then we still fought and were actually feared) and oh wait it took you 2yrs before you joined the second world war (we joined independantly of our own accord within 24hrs of it beginning)
America was very content to watch Europe burn

What bothers me is the generalized arrogance America has how your the best country on the planet and everyone else must bow before you. How you constantly resort to wars and toppling governments to ensure YOUR interests around the globe. How its perfectly acceptable for your military budget to sky rocket constantly its over 3/4 of a trillion dollars as of fucking 05 god knows what it is now, profits to the defense industry have sky rocketed Americans have literally turned war into a business, yet no other nation can spend a cent on its own defense without you going batshit. America is an empire, there is no excuse for 725 American military bases in 130 foreign countries (as of 05, you've expanded since then...)


What pisses me off is shit like this happening the same day another one of our dead soldiers was returning home, this is just one example its constant.
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our response to that vid on a comedy show while yours was from Fox supposedly an actual news network.
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As far as press freedom America is FAR from the top, for the record you're #44
http://www.nationsonline.org/maps/press_freedom_map_big.jpg
http://www.nationsonline.org/oneworld/press_freedom.htm

[Underground_Network]

They helped us during our Revolution, but we were like "No way bitch" when they asked us to help in theirs.

Much, much different circumstances were involved in their revolution mi amigo...

... And the postwar era of Robespierre would not be one that Americans would like to be associated with... Thank you very much. ;)

[Poetic Folly]

Hey, it wasn't that different? I'll chop your head off!

[Underground_Network]

French people can bring 'peace' to America: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Fourier

[Sapphire]

This thread has to be a joke...

[Underground_Network]

Grammatically speaking, you're correct Carole. ;)

[Perseus]

For the record I don't hate all Americans a great deal of my friends are American
What pisses me off
the people I hate
are ones like you
wither they're American, Canadian, European, Australian, etc...
You are NO better then me nor do you deserve ANY more respect

Don't ever bring the last world war into a debate like this or use it as your main grounding for why they owe you
It took America 3 fucking years to join the FIRST war (I realize we were a colony then we still fought and were actually feared) and oh wait it took you 2yrs before you joined the second world war (we joined independantly of our own accord within 24hrs of it beginning)
America was very content to watch Europe burn

What bothers me is the generalized arrogance America has how your the best country on the planet and everyone else must bow before you. How you constantly resort to wars and toppling governments to ensure YOUR interests around the globe. How its perfectly acceptable for your military budget to sky rocket constantly its over 3/4 of a trillion dollars as of fucking 05 god knows what it is now, profits to the defense industry have sky rocketed Americans have literally turned war into a business, yet no other nation can spend a cent on its own defense without you going batshit. America is an empire, there is no excuse for 725 American military bases in 130 foreign countries (as of 05, you've expanded since then...)


What pisses me off is shit like this happening the same day another one of our dead soldiers was returning home, this is just one example its constant.
OtWIPCWJp7c&feature=related

our response to that vid on a comedy show while yours was from Fox supposedly an actual news network.
rgtyZKjvHpM


As far as press freedom America is FAR from the top, for the record you're #44
http://www.nationsonline.org/maps/press_freedom_map_big.jpg
http://www.nationsonline.org/oneworld/press_freedom.htm

Whisper, the people at Fox News are retards. They don't know anything and I've sen that show on comcast.net and they can't take stuff seriously. They're bunch idiots on t.v.

[nachtspiegel]

As far as Americans helping the French goes, we didn't do anything. Our ancestors did. Don't take credit for something you personally had nothing to do with.

[Neverender]

I'm on the military view now

America is an empire, there is no excuse for 725 American military bases in 130 foreign countries (as of 05, you've expanded since then...)

Hell, when you americans were based in Newfoundland for the whole of World War 2 (and the rest of the cold war) you made fun of us, cost us money that we didn`t have, and you stored your nuclear weapons there. You turned 7 towns in NL into military bases, polluted the place and then got up and left. But left everything there. NL was a nuclear power for a few months. But even better, your carelessness with these weapons gave 1/3 of the town of goose bay cancer. and now people are finding tanks and drums full of oil and guns and everything in lakes and fields all around these towns. You said you were helping to protect us and canada... hardly.

We dont need any real protection. Canada's a peacekeeping nation and a founder of NATO, anyone attacks us, 28 other countries attack them. Including yours. You deserve no more respect then anyone else, you deserve less, for demanding more.

[xavierhonre]

Wow, I must say that for such a simple topic that had the potential to go sour quick it's transformed into quite a debate. I'm impressed. It's no longer on the original topic, but still worthy of reading.

I agree with Neverender:

You said you were helping to protect us and canada... hardly.

American imperialists are still leading our country, left over from the Bush Administration. We think that we need a huge army and bases in every country in the world, yet we won't let anyone touch our soil.

[Φρανκομβριτ]

LOL!!! Okay, it's not just france sweetie. Most of the world hates America. It's sad, 'cos there's some really awesome people and places there, but there's a general understanding of america's "dominance" so to speak, and everyone think's it's rather....well....silly. That's all


EDIT: It would be Why DO French people hate Americans

[Atonement]

I don't believe that America is proper. We have too much power honestly. We have the second largest military by number of soldiers, one of the strongest and most diverse economies (I mean, everyone's economy is in the shithole right now, but still), we have the most nuclear weapons (second is Russia), and after a bit of research on the most powerful nations, all that I've found agree that USA is at top, and ranking in the following few are Russia, China, France, UK, India, Pakistan, South Korea, Brazil, etc. (In similar descending order). Now, I do not mean to brag, this is an empire. It is outstanding the power that exists, and I do not think it is okay. We shouldn't have all this. Strong economy, cool, a decent military, cool, but the warheads? the excessive wars? Its ridiculous. I believe people resent America not in jealous (though it may be the case), but they resent America because we have it. We have it, they don't, we shouldn't have it, they recognize that truth, we don't. Thus, we are ignorant.

[BeautifulSilence]

Seeing as this is becoming a debate, moved to RotW.

[Φρανκομβριτ]

Trust me, we're not jealous. multi-trillion dollar debt? The rest of the world hating us? I'm good thanks.

On another note, the wars. Whats the reason now? I can't keep up with them.

[Sapphire]

America are a completely self-serving nation.
All they care about is what will benefit them. If something won't benefit the USA then they won't do it.
Look at limitations on CO2 emissions. Pretty much the whole of Europe has agreed to limit their CO2 emissions to a certain limit and last time I checked the good ol' US of A refused.

While individual American's can be very smart, as a group they are stupid as hell.

[Underground_Network]

America is, thank you very much.

I think we established "America is" over "America are" with the Civil War, Carole. ;)

"They" shouldn't be used in describing us either. America is a nation, it's not a series of independent sovereign entities, therefore it's a single noun, not a plural noun, and therefore "are" and "they" shouldn't be used in describing us. ;)

[Sapphire]

America is, thank you very much.

I think we established "America is" over "America are" with the Civil War, Carole. ;)

"They" shouldn't be used in describing us either. America is a nation, it's not a series of independent sovereign entities, therefore it's a single noun, not a plural noun, and therefore "are" and "they" shouldn't be used in describing us. ;)Ok, let's deal with the words used and not the actual message, eh?
I made a typo with putting "are" after America. I meant to put "is" but was slightly distracted at the time.

"They" refers to all Americans. When I used "they" I was talking about everyone in America and not about the country as a single entity. My use of the word "they" was intentional and is correct.

[Underground_Network]

Okay, I understand lol. I was just a little feisty. xD

But yeah, America's not all too bad... There are worse countries. And its not a bad place to live, even if the government sucks for the most part (though at the moment its tough to honestly judge how effective our government is, as an accurate measurement of the proficiency of a government can only honestly be made after that government is no longer in power... That we have ALL of the decisions that said government made and we can compare said governments to their predecessors.)

[Sapphire]

The USA isn't bad to live in if you have money. If you are unfortunate enough to be on the poorer side of the scale then it isn't that great a place to live.

If you live outside of the USA then the USA really couldn't give two shits as to whether you live or die. All the USA cares about are trading opportunities and who's likely to attack.

The USA doesn't care if children are dying daily from drinking dirty water.
The USA doesn't care if thousands of people are forced into homelessness by people with guns.

[Underground_Network]

Does your country care more?

[Sapphire]

Does your country care more?Don't try and turn this around on the UK just because you haven't got any answers to my statements.

But since you have taken us there...

We care a damn lot more about the ramifications of our actions beyond our borders than the USA.
The UK is amongst the top 3 countries for recycling and we have agreed to limit (and have been limiting) our CO2 emissions. And we give proportionally more than the USA in foreign aid.

[Φρανκομβριτ]

The USA isn't bad to live in if you have money. If you are unfortunate enough to be on the poorer side of the scale then it isn't that great a place to live.

If you live outside of the USA then the USA really couldn't give two shits as to whether you live or die. All the USA cares about are trading opportunities and who's likely to attack.

The USA doesn't care if children are dying daily from drinking dirty water.
The USA doesn't care if thousands of people are forced into homelessness by people with guns.

WAIT WAIT WAIT!!!

First off, I doubt the USA cares about the poor/ homeless people in their country because they're not supporting the economy.

SECONDLY, isn't that the reason they're in the war? For some reason, now is an awesome time to go help out the needy midle-eastern people and free them? Of course, it's not oil, we ALL know that.

*rollys eyes*

[Atonement]

I believe that there are a lot of people in America that care deeply about hot topics such as peace, poverty, etc. but those aren'tt he people in power. Recently, we've had a long line of poor leadership, and leadership in the wrong direction. Now, Obama is no God sent Saint or anything, but he's turning around the war in Iraq, trying to stimulate the economy, and help the greater good. If the greater good were homeless, we would build shelters, but the greater good is the middle class which we are trying to keep from getting that low. Its not as if homeless shoujld be ignored, but its not the greater good. People are selfish and look at themselves first before the welfare of others, which is not always best. Such as the Middle East, where we are in a war over resources and knocking down growing powers that would have a negative effect on the USA. Now, is it right? No. Is it necessary? It could be done other ways.

[Neverender]

Well right now the relationship between Canada and the US is so strange because we refuse to do what the US asks.. then demands.. then pleads. No, we didn't go to Iraq with you, but we did end up fighting your war in Afghanistan. Not sure how that happened. And even your president is Anti-Canadian. Uttering sterotypical slurs during the Primarys. We're the closest ally the US has right now, and you still dont take us seriously.

Its not like we saved your asses during the chlorine attacks during the battle of the somme..

Oh wow, you made an atomic bomb? Great. We only made a possible cure for diabetes.

O_o

[Atonement]

How is the president anti-canadian? can you link me some stuff, I'm not saying it didn't happen, I'm just unaware of the story

[Zephyr]

Most everybody here is making ignorant assumptions about everybody else and frankly, I find it quite disgusting.

Ever hear the following sayings...

He without sin may cast the first stone.
and
Hate the uniform, not the person wearing it.
(In this case, don't make assumptions about people because they live in a certain country)

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[Whisper]

I am so sick of you god dam wolves attacking America and the American citizens on VT with no justification
They have no more say in there countries foreign policies than you do in your's
There are over 300 MILLION Americans they have by FAR the highest population of any western nation and you're going to sit there and generalize on your high horses?
This is exactly what I was talking about before
The arrogance
I don't care what nation you call home
erugh



America are a completely self-serving nation.
All they care about is what will benefit them. If something won't benefit the USA then they won't do it.
Look at limitations on CO2 emissions. Pretty much the whole of Europe has agreed to limit their CO2 emissions to a certain limit and last time I checked the good ol' US of A refused.

While individual American's can be very smart, as a group they are stupid as hell.

Ok, let's deal with the words used and not the actual message, eh?
I made a typo with putting "are" after America. I meant to put "is" but was slightly distracted at the time.

"They" refers to all Americans. When I used "they" I was talking about everyone in America and not about the country as a single entity. My use of the word "they" was intentional and is correct.

The USA isn't bad to live in if you have money. If you are unfortunate enough to be on the poorer side of the scale then it isn't that great a place to live.

If you live outside of the USA then the USA really couldn't give two shits as to whether you live or die. All the USA cares about are trading opportunities and who's likely to attack.

The USA doesn't care if children are dying daily from drinking dirty water.
The USA doesn't care if thousands of people are forced into homelessness by people with guns.

Don't try and turn this around on the UK just because you haven't got any answers to my statements.

But since you have taken us there...

We care a damn lot more about the ramifications of our actions beyond our borders than the USA.
The UK is amongst the top 3 countries for recycling and we have agreed to limit (and have been limiting) our CO2 emissions. And we give proportionally more than the USA in foreign aid.

Carole Shut. The. Fuck. Up!
You have to be the biggest biggot, self serving, egotistical bitch, I've ever had to deal with on here in 5yrs! That's saying something, jesus you're worse then Thomas was and i doubt anyone even remembers him.

I'm loving how you're slamming the states everywhere with nothing but contempt
The United States of America may have its faults but I would take the Republic over your dam Monarchy empire anyday
Look through your own history when Britain was in charge, the wars, the senseless conquering, attacks, and intimidation

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I'm not be an American citizen but I've had family who were and they are my brothers in arms! This thread is bullshit all of you smarten the fuck up! All you're doing is sitting there on your high horses slamming the states how arrogant is that? You're acting in the exact way your condemning them of doing. Do you feel better for it? For slamming them because they were born in a GREAT country that they should feel lucky to be citizens of yet had no choice in the matter? This is EXACTLY the attitude I was talking about in my previous posts! Your citizenship isn't what matters in judging its how you act! How you treat others yourself thats important!

...when I have been in Canada, I have never heard a Canadian refer to an American as a "foreigner." He is just an "American." And, in the same way, in the United States, Canadians are not "foreigners," they are "Canadians." That simple little distinction illustrates to me better than anything else the relationship between our two countries.

America has its faults but they have done many great and wondrous things aswell like oh I don't know inventing electricity, the internet, first man on the moon, leading roll in the ISS, first to split the atom (which has more potential then just as a big bomb) the worlds largest mobile treatment center that they have used in aid to help millions in natural disasters and war torn areas, and you know what YES they lead the free world why? Because somebody fucking has to and nobody else is willing to ensure the wrath of other nations like the USSR, China, the Middle east, etc... to do so.
They believe that if you have the power to help then you have the RESPONSIBILITY to do so
are they perfect? fuck no
But neither is the UK, Australia, Canada, etc...
The States is a fuck of allot better than China or Russia
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I view the relationship with Canada as a vital relationship for the United States. The relationship, of course, is defined government-to-government. It's also defined people-to-people, and there's a lot of people in my country who respect Canada and have great relations with Canadians, and we intend to keep it that way.


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Geography has made us neighbors. History has made us friends. Economics has made us partners. And necessity has made us allies. Those whom nature hath so joined together, let no man put asunder. What unites us is far greater than what divides us.

I AM CANADIAN
and American's are family
Just so were clear here all this thread has been really is a bash fest of the states the majority of VT is American and they've all sat here and taken it, I wonder would you be so gracious
fuckin assholes

[Neverender]

How is the president anti-canadian? can you link me some stuff, I'm not saying it didn't happen, I'm just unaware of the story

I was too Addi. But as of right now, all the teachers (one of which is from america) and lots of the kids in my school said that Obama's anti canadian. I asked how and my teacher told m,e just that. I shall go and find some links. If this is a wonderfully unfruitful story, y'all just ignore it. Blame Ms. Blick.


I AM CANADIAN
and American's are family
Just so were clear here all this thread has been really is a bash fest of the states the majority of VT is American and they've all sat here and taken it, I wonder would you be so gracious
fuckin assholes

Actually Kodie, I'm suprised that the thread has survived this long. and I agree with you. This is not a debate, this is a god damn gang beating. Hell, its gone so far off topic I'm sure we're gonna see this in North Korea. I can see possible infractions if everyone just keeps fighting like this. Lets all be civilized shall we? or even better, never post in this thread again.

[Sapphire]

First off, I doubt the USA cares about the poor/ homeless people in their country because they're not supporting the economy.

SECONDLY, isn't that the reason they're in the war? For some reason, now is an awesome time to go help out the needy midle-eastern people and free them? Of course, it's not oil, we ALL know that.Homeless people can't support the economy because you need a permanent place of residence to get a job. But to get a permanent place of residence you need money and where do you get money from? A job. It's a shit system and it's used in many countries. But that is no reason to not care about them.

If we as countries were serious about helping out the Middle East then we would have had honest information about the motives from the start. IMO, an honest and humanitarian motive would be more positively received by the citizens of the US and the UK than the weapons of mass destruction which have yet to be found...

I believe that there are a lot of people in America that care deeply about hot topics such as peace, poverty, etc. but those aren'tt he people in power. Recently, we've had a long line of poor leadership, and leadership in the wrong direction. Now, Obama is no God sent Saint or anything, but he's turning around the war in Iraq, trying to stimulate the economy, and help the greater good. If the greater good were homeless, we would build shelters, but the greater good is the middle class which we are trying to keep from getting that low. Its not as if homeless shoujld be ignored, but its not the greater good. People are selfish and look at themselves first before the welfare of others, which is not always best. Such as the Middle East, where we are in a war over resources and knocking down growing powers that would have a negative effect on the USA. Now, is it right? No. Is it necessary? It could be done other ways.Obama does seem to be taking things in the right direction and from what I gather he was very good at the G20 summit earlier this year.

I agree that everyone needs help at the moment but I honestly think that more can be done for those who are in great hardship.

And Kodie getting to know me properly and whether or not I practice what I preach is better if you want to insult me. Calling me egotistical and self-serving without any solid basis is pointless and not in the least offensive.

[Zephyr]

This is turning into a huge bash fest.
ALL of you guys should know better than that.


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