Columbine

[Antares]

Do you think that Columbine could have been avoided?
How so?

Do you think that all school shootings could be avoided?
How so?

Have you been to a school where there has been a shooting/dangerous situation?

[Perseus]

Of course, all school shootings could be avoided if humans weren't so cruel to each other.
Well, maybe not the ones that are just because the person likes killing other people.

[Sage]

Of course, all school shootings could be avoided if humans weren't so cruel to each other.
Well, maybe not the ones that are just because the person likes killing other people.

"In a perfect world, blahblahblah" adds nothing to the debate.

I think there are a lot of cases where, yes, if the care and attention was given, the symptoms these poor, mentally ill shooters could've been seen ahead of time and prevented. There will always be the rare case though, I think, of the person who simply slipped under the radar and never showed any of the signs.

[Underground_Network]

There is a lot that goes on in peoples' minds that would shock you.

A LOT.

Take it from me.

Not all shootings, in school, at a workplace, etc., etc. can be prevented. Some people are just born bound to kill. Whether they do it in school or later on is determined by their environment, actual thought process, and accessibility to weaponry.

[Sage]

There is a lot that goes on in peoples' minds that would shock you.

The thing that seperates the common man on the street from the serial killer in the back alley is their willingness to act on their thoughts.

[Patchy]

I think it was bound to happen, that was one of the first cases (as far as I know)

It gave the world a wake up to kids can still be murderers, over here all the doors are locked during school time and you have to buzz to get in but meh, it would still be easy enough to cause it, meaning lessons haven't been learned in the UK after the Dunblaine Massacre (The Scottish equivalent of Columbine)

[Underground_Network]

That is very, very true. (at Tim)

[Church]

I dont think there will ever be a 100% way to stop school shootings, but metal detectors and some armed guards would do well.

[Mind forte]

"In a perfect world, blahblahblah" adds nothing to the debate.

I think there are a lot of cases where, yes, if the care and attention was given, the symptoms these poor, mentally ill shooters could've been seen ahead of time and prevented. There will always be the rare case though, I think, of the person who simply slipped under the radar and never showed any of the signs.
If care and attention was given? That would never happen anyway even if it did it would have a good chance of still happening. People who are committed to killing somebody would BS a conversation with someone and slip under the radar as you say. But there are the very, very few who would stop and change their minds about killing somebody. I agree with most of your post, the top part isn't needed though.

[Sage]

If care and attention was given? That would never happen anyway even if it did it would have a good chance of still happening. People who are committed to killing somebody would BS a conversation with someone and slip under the radar as you say. But there are the very, very few who would stop and change their minds about killing somebody.

You've a rather pessimistic view of humans, don't you now? Yes, some people do suffer antisocial personality disorders and are natural killers, but such diseases of the mind typically don't start until adulthood. If someone's personal problems can be addressed before they manifest into something irreversible, there is still hope.

[Mind forte]

You've a rather pessimistic view of humans, don't you now? Yes, some people do suffer antisocial personality disorders and are natural killers, but such diseases of the mind typically don't start until adulthood. If someone's personal problems can be addressed before they manifest into something irreversible, there is still hope.
I never said there wasn't hope I just believe that if they were committed to the shooting it would be a lot harder to change their minds. Where would the help come from anyway?

[Sage]

Where would the help come from anyway?

Namely parents I would imagine, who should keep a better eye on their children, and school staff who may be able to notice some of the signs as well.

[ThatCanadianGuy]

A girl was picked up by police on her way to my school. In her backpack they found two handguns. Close call.

[Mind forte]

You know Deschain, I'm not disagreeing with you, I just think it would be hard for them to stop it.

[Sage]

You know Deschain, I'm not disagreeing with you, I just think it would be hard for them to stop it.

No one ever said it would be easy, now.

[Neverender]

Do you think that Columbine could have been avoided? Possibly
How so? If people had payed attention to the hatred in these kids, it may have been prevented. But unlike other shootings, these kids werent bullied to death or anything, they just wanted to kill people. Making this case very hard to understand.

Do you think that all school shootings could be avoided? No.
How so? it doesn't matter how much counseling a person recieves, if their brain has been twisted and beaten long enough, they can snap just like THAT.

Have you been to a school where there has been a shooting/dangerous situation? No.

However, because of my unending hatred of many people in this god forsaken town, i have been classified as a high risk by my psychologist.

I hate that Bitch.


Namely parents I would imagine, who should keep a better eye on their children, and school staff who may be able to notice some of the signs as well.

I agree Tim. However, my parents are the spawn of satan, and the staff at my school are almost as bad. Do 55 suicides in the gym for something someone else did.

[theOperaGhost]

Columbine could have been avoided, but it seemed unlikely. After it happens everyone can think of things that should have been obvious, etc....but it's like Nostradamus...all of his prophecies link to something that has already happened, why aren't they found before it happens? (I don't really believe Nostradamus's prophecies, people just believe they predict things). I don't feel warning signs are all that obvious until AFTER something happens.

A few things could prevent them, but if someone really wants to kill, they will kill.