think for yourself.

[kolte]

It depends on your religion... The bibles never says to do it or not to do it... So.. it depends on your morals/ethics

the bible does comment on it. :roll:

your a big boy/girl, you know the difference between right and wrong, if you think its wrong, don't do it, if you think its not that big of a deal do it. "hint" "hint" its not that big of a deal, just use protection, and make sure you don't let people take advantage of you or hurt you. You are your own person and you lead your own path.

if bible is the truth then you must _NOT DO YOUR OWN DECISISIONS_
people who say that they are christians and yet still dont care for ANYTHING that is said in bible and instead just make up rules from it..
Christians without faith should just quit the damn religion

OK this is the exact kind of thing said by a teenager that scares me. I have said it for ages, and now I have proof. The church and bible teach closemindedness, it teaches kids to let other people and things think for them. I'm sorry but the caps lock statement. "do not make your own decisisions" that freaks me out. People really have taken a book written after jesus died way to literally. Jesus didnt say those exact things, after 50 years of death I'm sure there were words lost in trasnlation.

If you really want to know what to do. Listen. You live your own life, you learn from your own experiences. You are your own rainbow. You help yourself up. Are we understanding me? Life will throw many experiences your way, and you choose weather or not what you do and did was right or wrong. Read the bible, read all of it and all the other bilbes from all the other religion's. how do you know what you are doing if you don't know your surroundings. Study about christ, and god and muhammad and buddha and the hindu gods and moses and abraham. after you have study all of these things, take all the information you have learned and erase the stories. names should mean nothing, if we looked at what jesus tought rather then who he was, don't you think he message would be sweeter. Does it matter if he was the son of god or just some random guy? Is what he tought not right? Can you not see that without somebody telling you. If you grow up letting everyone else tell you what to do, have you really grown up at all? do you know what I say? A wise man doesnt become wise because another man told him how. If that were the case, then how would the first wise man become wise? A trure wise man learns from his own doing, that way what he says goes to heart, because it is his own life, not that of another.

Think for yourself.....

[Dfsg]

The wisest man in the Jewish community is the Rabbi, who reads the word of the Torah and helps all of the Jews in his charge understand how to live. The Bible and Torah (which is part of the Bible) are great sources of how to live your life. The Bible comprises my Basic Instructions Before Leaving Earth.

The problems with Churchs come when evil infiltrates the men and women in charge of the Church. The Word itself is not evil.

What is this issue reguarding? Perhaps the evil of man has clouded your opinion of the pureness of the Bible.

As DC Talk says "The biggest cause of Atheism in this world is Christians. Christians who accept Jesus with their lips, then walk out and deny Him by their lifestyle." You can't say the Word is evil when it's the men and women who interpret it for their purposes may be evil.

[kolte]

I know about the Jewish Community, I was raised jewish lol n.n. No 'evil man' has coulded my opinion of the bible. I came up with all of my ideas and choices on my own, but of course I don't shune what other people have to say, I listen to everyone and choose for myself, like we all should. I didnt say anything was evil...did I?

[Dfsg]

I have evil in me- so does every person on earth. Last person who wasn't evil was crucified.


It's just that men are evil, and people don't understand why God isn't making everything all better. Men are evil, and God gives us the gift and responcibility of free will. Unless God takes away free will, there will be evil.

Even though the Bible is pure and right, people will taint things. That doesn't mean the Bible is a bad thing, it means that all men are sinners.

[kolte]

if all men are sinners, and men wrote the bible.........see were I'm getting at here.

[redcar]

if all men are sinners, and men wrote the bible

well some women wrote it as well, eg Book of Esther, and not all women are sinners, Mary the Virgin Mother didnt commit a sin in her life!!

[Dfsg]

Well, the state of the Virgin Mary sinfulness is a debate :P

But those who wrote the Bible were inspired by God himself, so it is a pure writing.

[kolte]

i can see how pure instructions for staking your slaves ear with a nail to show ownership is. I mean how is that not pure.

[TheWizard]

lol

How about the incest in the babble. :)

[redcar]

the incest is not very nice, but its teaching us thats its wrong to do it. ic ant remeber the story exatly but isnt there one about tw daughters who drug their father and rape him, so they get pregnant, anyway moral of the story is that its wrong!!:D

[Webbeardthepirate]

Lots wife had been turned into a pillar of salt, poor unnamed woman. Did they come from Sodom or Gamorah? I don't remember? As for thinking foryourself, Martin Buber, the jewish theologian, in his book I and Thou, putforward the suposition that God exists in the connection between people, and not in the individual person. It is through our connection to one another that good and evil can be done. But failing the connection always does evil. So rather then thinking for yourself you need to engage in dialog with your fellow humans. Think together, and not alone. You don't have to agree, but as long as you communicate you can avoid the evils that would otherwise result. I mean, if you want to listen to a dead jewish guy. (Whose ideas were also one of the leading influences on Vatican II)
I think the Virgin Mary would be considered tainted by original sin, as was Jesus, being born of a woman. That was the point of the Baptism of Christ by John the Baptist. Or so I've been told, I wasn't there.

[kolte]

Martin Buber, is one man with one theory. I am another man, with another theory, many years later, trying to help youth to no follow the mainstream, venture out of the box, think for themselves, decide whats right and wrong, whats good and bad. If god exists or not. So many kids are just ignorant and narrow minded, because if there youth minister said something, its all the sudden Law, or if there mom and dad said something, Law, if teacher said something law. You see were I'm getting at, there so eaisly swaed. And so I say, listen to what everyone has to say, and then come up with your own conclusion.

[Webbeardthepirate]

Well, every generation has to make the world again. We have to learn to read, how an arch works, how simple machines are combined into complex machines like cars. There are 5,000 years of accumulated wisdom to pass on to each generation. Laying down the law, as you say, is one reliable way of transmitting this wisdom along. Of course the world has changed faster then it ever has before, so some accumulated wisdom is irrelevent or even detrimental. I can't think of anything right now, but there must be some advice that doesn't help anymore, but might have once been useful.