solving; unemplyment, obecety and the power shortage in one go!

[djunlogical]

K, so heres my idea;

As many people know, the world is facing a power shortage epidenic, not enough fossil fules, and the growing population meant that fossil fules may be used up more recently than first anticipated. People are also unemployed, causing the government to spend millions of taxes payer money into funding support. And obecety, do I need to say any more?

So, no biggie, we'll switch to renewable energy sources right? WRONG, the simple truth is, there would never be enough to sustain even Europe for 3 years, let alone the rest of the world!

so what do we do? Well, first of all, by solving all three, can you think of an energy source that converts chemical energy into kinetic energy, all ready for the dynamo. no? Look at yourself? If you ride a bike at an average speed of 5Mph for aprox. 10 minutes the kinetic energy produce could power an energy efficiant light bulb for upto 28 hours. Imagine 1.687 million unemployed people, all riding mounted bikes, hoocked up to a generater. after 9 hours of everyone riding an everage speed of 8MpH you cn harvest enough electrisity to power 4000 (ish) homes per day.

Obesety would soon die out due to the regular exercise.
and employing people at minimum wage who would probably spend money at the local gym anyways proves beneficial to all (with the exceptions of the gyms) best of all, there are no waste product to converting food to energy (other than feascese which would occur naturally anyway) and there could be a vastly reduced age limit, as there are no hazards, other than pulling a muscle. The country would develop better cyclists and athletes, and may therefore stand a chance to even win the olympics.

What do you think?
(based on UK average consumption and unemplyment)

[Oblivion]

First off it's a cool idea, but there are a few flaws.

K, so heres my idea;

As many people know, the world is facing a power shortage epidenic, not enough fossil fules, and the growing population meant that fossil fules may be used up more recently than first anticipated. People are also unemployed, causing the government to spend millions of taxes payer money into funding support. And obecety, do I need to say any more?

So, no biggie, we'll switch to renewable energy sources right? WRONG, the simple truth is, there would never be enough to sustain even Europe for 3 years, let alone the rest of the world!

The point of renewable resources is that they can be reused; unless the population grows extremely fast, if the renewable source could work for one year it could theoretically work for however long it was taken care of.


so what do we do? Well, first of all, by solving all three, can you think of an energy source that converts chemical energy into kinetic energy, all ready for the dynamo. no? Look at yourself? If you ride a bike at an average speed of 5Mph for aprox. 10 minutes the kinetic energy produce could power an energy efficiant light bulb for upto 28 hours. Imagine 1.687 million unemployed people, all riding mounted bikes, hoocked up to a generater. after 9 hours of everyone riding an everage speed of 8MpH you cn harvest enough electrisity to power 4000 (ish) homes per day.

That's a good idea, but it would cost £2609957700 per month (if they all were payed minimum wage) to maintain. Assuming the average household spends £1000 on electricity (which I think is more than average) whoever ran it would still lose £2489957700 (over £2 billion) a month.

Obesety would soon die out due to the regular exercise.
and employing people at minimum wage who would probably spend money at the local gym anyways proves beneficial to all (with the exceptions of the gyms) best of all, there are no waste product to converting food to energy (other than feascese which would occur naturally anyway) and there could be a vastly reduced age limit, as there are no hazards, other than pulling a muscle. The country would develop better cyclists and athletes, and may therefore stand a chance to even win the olympics.

What do you think?
(based on UK average consumption and unemplyment)

That's a good thing too, but I'm not sure how well it would work; people who would apply for the bike riding job probably would be fit already, otherwise they wouldn't want the job. (Unless they were really desperate)

[Cloud]

renewable=cna be renewed(duh) and doesnt take million of years
so they cna support the energy needs with sufficient development. e.g the Uk building large numbers of offshore windfarms (thankyou geography class) and tidal generators.. wind and tides never run out so they can support a country if htere is enough of them

and the bikers are at risk of exhaustion from such vigourus excersive continuously

[Sage]

We could always get monkeys to do it.

[djunlogical]

Monkeys are cheap workers... once their trained, and people would eventually get used to the exercise, besides they couldhave like.. drop in sessions for people to do it free... instead of the gyms! HElLL I would do a couple of hours if I wasnt charged!

Edit:
OH! And I was taking into account that they were renewed, was just simply saying that eventually the power usage would mean that people wouldnt have electrisity after that time!

[Oblivion]

Monkeys are cheap workers... once their trained, and people would eventually get used to the exercise, besides they couldhave like.. drop in sessions for people to do it free... instead of the gyms! HElLL I would do a couple of hours if I wasnt charged!

Edit:
OH! And I was taking into account that they were renewed, was just simply saying that eventually the power usage would mean that people wouldnt have electrisity after that time!

How could they not have electricity if the source was renewable?
I don't understand... Renewable means that theoretically it'll never run out, until the sun dwarfs or the wind stops blowing or some other thing happens that makes the renewable source not renewable.

[djunlogical]

okay, I've been away for some time, so I'll put this one straight, The renewable energy sources that we are building would not be able to support us because It doesn't generate enough energy.

[INFERNO]

So, no biggie, we'll switch to renewable energy sources right? WRONG, the simple truth is, there would never be enough to sustain even Europe for 3 years, let alone the rest of the world!

Really? There's geothermal energy, solar, wind, hydro, etc... . There's also the nuclear reactors, although I wouldn't exactly call them renewable but they do last for quite some time.


so what do we do? Well, first of all, by solving all three, can you think of an energy source that converts chemical energy into kinetic energy, all ready for the dynamo. no? Look at yourself? If you ride a bike at an average speed of 5Mph for aprox. 10 minutes the kinetic energy produce could power an energy efficiant light bulb for upto 28 hours. Imagine 1.687 million unemployed people, all riding mounted bikes, hoocked up to a generater. after 9 hours of everyone riding an everage speed of 8MpH you cn harvest enough electrisity to power 4000 (ish) homes per day.

There are a few issues with this. First, you'll need to invest enough money to purchase 1.687 million mounted bikes and all the other necessary gadgetry to have it converted and go to some storage place. Second, people are not able to constantly ride so they will tire out. Some will tire out faster than others but eventually people will be very tired and then we're screwed. Alternatively, we could use monkeys but like humans, they're going to tire also.


Obesety would soon die out due to the regular exercise.
and employing people at minimum wage who would probably spend money at the local gym anyways proves beneficial to all (with the exceptions of the gyms) best of all, there are no waste product to converting food to energy (other than feascese which would occur naturally anyway) and there could be a vastly reduced age limit, as there are no hazards, other than pulling a muscle. The country would develop better cyclists and athletes, and may therefore stand a chance to even win the olympics.

Well there's a few problems here also. First, if people go to the gym then the gym is going to offer more than merely mounted bicycles. Many people go to the gym for weight-lifting or classes also, not only for the bicycles. So the problem at hand is, how do you get them to go to the bicycles hooked up rather than to their regular gym? They cant do all the exercises on the bike that they can at the gym so why go to the bicycles?

You mentioned there being no hazards. Well there can be some hazards. First, if the people continually go on your bicycles for a good amount of time each day and they also work, then they're going to be very tired, their work will suffer, their bicycling will suffer, their chances of a work-related accident or driving accident increases, etc... .

But there is one problem that's even bigger. Suppose you manage to hire the unemployed and pay them minimum wage. How are they to afford their food, drinks, clothing, living expenses, etc...? Either they get help from the government and that's pretty much leaving us back where we started from anyways. The only exception is now that they're more fit but they're still unable to make ends meet. If you want to hire the already employed, then you may get some people but many will already be busy as it is. Many have families or work full-time jobs so they may not bother. Some of them may own their own equipment so they may just use their own rather than use yours.


What do you think?
(based on UK average consumption and unemplyment)

I think your ideas have way too many flaws in them. It would also hurt many fitness industries so while we're generating more power, numerous businesses are going down the shitter as a result so economically, we're suffering.

Monkeys are cheap workers... once their trained, and people would eventually get used to the exercise, besides they couldhave like.. drop in sessions for people to do it free... instead of the gyms! HElLL I would do a couple of hours if I wasnt charged!

Having it for free is even worse. If your initial idea was to help solve unemployment, then paying the workers nothing isn't solving it. Many gyms may suffer but at the same time, your idea will suffer because many people want the weights at the gym and not so much the bicycles.

Another issue with making it free, people may just resort to their own equipment as they're not getting any personal result from it that they wouldn't get from their own stuff. If you pay them then there's some incentive but once you take that away, it's going to work even less.

As for the monkeys, yes that's a possibility but remember, they're going to need rest also. Sooner or later they're going to tire out and need to sleep. So the monkeys aren't going to be a great help unless you have about an infinite amount.

Lastly, you'll need a lot of bicycles fitted for the monkeys to use. That will cost a fair bit also.


Edit:
OH! And I was taking into account that they were renewed, was just simply saying that eventually the power usage would mean that people wouldnt have electrisity after that time!

I'm not sure that you entirely understand the concept of renewable energy sources. The idea is that it's not going to run out. Once you hop off the bike, let's assume that there is some big storage area for the power. But unless you keep peddling, that source is going to go out very fast. It's not renewable in the slightest.

Solar power or wind power is renewable. The only limit is once the sun explodes then that source is gone but then again, we're also gone along with it.