Peadophiles, right or wrong?

[djunlogical]

Is it fair to give all peadophiles a hard time, most peadophiles arrested in the UK have only been caught in possesion of child pornography, and to be fair, its not allthat hard to get hold of. there is also a thing called lolita. (There is one type) where unerage children (mainly girls) pose themselves infront of cameras. They do this of their own free will. I am not here to saypeadophiles should be excused for raping, children... far from it. Meerely to say should peadophles be arrested for possesion of child pornography?

[Ripplemagne]

Being that there's no universal code of ethics, it's up for speculation, but pedophiles disgust me because they rarely stop at lolita and such.

[Sugaree]

Of course. Child pornography is illegal. If the person posing for the picture is under 18 (at least in the U.S., not sure about the UK) then it is child pronography and the holder is arrested. If we don't arrest those people who have been caught in possession of child pornography, then we're not doing our job to protect young children and teens from being victims of this malicious crime.

[The Batman]

Really I don't think so maybe just a hard fine or something unless they got the porn from some personal experience. I just think that the entire view on pedophilia is too harsh. Back like 70 or so years ago it was ok for an adult man to marry a 14 or 15 year old girl with her parent's permission but now it's frown upon and given that guy a label. People say that the worse part of raping a minor is that they are taking that child's innocence which is true but IMO rape is rape no matter the age of the person and they should be punished just as severely.

Also it makes no sense for someone to be punished because of consensual sex like the teachers who hook up with and date their students. If both of them want it then the teacher shouldn't be put in jail, maybe fired though. I'm just rambling now.

[Sage]

If children had the mental maturity and rationale needed to understand sex and consent, I would have no problem with it. Unfortunately, a child doesn't have a proper comprehension of sex to consent to it fairly in my opinion, so I would have to be against it- Just as I am against any form of unconsentual sex.

[INFERNO]

I think that there is lots of negative stigma towards pedophilia. I find nothing wrong with it in terms of having an attraction towards younger kids. However, when it comes to the actions, such as molestation, rape, etc..., then that I find "wrong" in terms of being against social norms, statistically infrequent and violating the privacy of another person.

If the underage kids willingly pose infront of the cameras and such, if it is pornography, and if the individual is in possession of it, then it is deemed illegal (I think). But having the fantasies and looking at the online stuff (i.e. lolita) then I don't find that to be wrong.

Pedophiles should be arrested for possession of child pornography because that is the law. If they are to not be arrested for it, then the law should be changed to nobody being arrested for it. Pedophiles are aware of what they are doing, and so I would not immediately consider it a mental disorder where they are unaware of what they are doing or along those lines. If the individuals in the child pornography are doing it willingly, then I would still consider it illegal, although perhaps give a less harsh sentence for that, perhaps a fine and a bit of jail time (under a year, 1/2 year max.). But, if the porn is from the child being unwilling (i.e. pedophile's personal doings) then that I consider to be a completely different story, one where jail time is to be much longer and possibly also a very large fine to go with it.

[Ripplemagne]

Pedophilia as time drags on. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iNhN8AD8Kr8&feature=related)

[The Batman]

You can't lump all of them in the same category as that guy.

[Ripplemagne]

Maybe you can't, but I sure as Hell can when I plan on having five kids.

[The Batman]

It still doesn't matter it's like saying that all gay guys are going to try and molest anything with a penis because they are attracted to it.

Also he would be classified as an Ephebophilia-someone attracted to teens from mid to late adolescents.

[Ripplemagne]

Not really. It may be a stereotype, but it exists for a reason. Homosexuals, generally, don't try to molest people. Pedophiles tend to build up from smaller things to actually doing it, so that stereotype is tagged onto them. I don't much care for being politically correct when it involves the safety of me and my loved ones.

When I look at my two and one year old nieces and I see how innocent they are and I know that there's someone out there who would try to take advantage of that, it makes me want to slit their jugular. There's a song called "When I'm Gone" by Eminem and the first line is:

Have you ever loved someone so much, you'd give an arm for?
Not the expression, no, literally give an arm for?
When they know they're your heart,
And you know you were their armor...
And you will destroy anyone who would try to harm 'her.

I don't care what politically correct jargon the media and schools feed us, pedophiles are cafones and deserve what they get.

Do I think lolicon should be illegal? No, I don't. It doesn't harm anyone and isn't that serious. Do I think child pornography should be illegal? Yes, I do, because such things are often the product of physical restraint and the threat of violence or just outright duplicity.

[byee]

It's not healthy for either the minor or the adult to have any romantic or sexual relationship, there's a ton of research on this.

The problem with child porn is that children, minors, are not capable of giving informed consent, they cannot recognize the far reaching effects of their actions. Posing nude in front of adults is harmful, not only b/c it exploits the power diffeential between the adult and the minor, but it causes stress and confusion for the minor. Remember, they are mostly non sexual, so for them, the experience is likely seen as taking advantage of their vulnerability for reasons not clear to them.

The other problem with child porn is that eventhough the minor and the end user do'lt know eachother and have no real contact, the market for CP means that there must be a corresponding source to meet that need. So, as long as there'a a market for naked children, there will be some adults ready and willing to exploit minors somewhere in the world to satisfy that demand. The legal idea is that of yoyu work both ends......remove the supply as well as the demand, the chances of minors being taken advantage of is therefore lessened.

[Reality]

There is nothing wrong with the feeling of being attracted to younger kids, but I think because children are very oblivious and naive regarding sex, then that's where the action is wrong.

Call me weird, but I don't think pedophilia is as bad as it's made out to be, although I don't approve of things that attract pedophilia. (Like 8 year old beauty pageants)

[punkjake]

If they look at teen porno i thinks really x 1000000 weird but shouldn't be illegal as long as you are not making it or saleing it ,they should just get a fine but if you make make it,(now really child porn(5-10) Should be put in to jail for at least 4 year.) molest a child,or even "touch" with out medical reasons(docter parent as long as it isn't inappropriate) then yes goto jail and get help(meds,therapy,and counseling).I'm kinda scared at my school because our priest (I swear he would never touch or hurt a kid) but ...hes being moved and we are getting a new one in a year and I'm afraid(not for myself,i can protect my self)but my little brothers)If he does anything like that i would be put in jail on assault and maybe murder if I'm pushed to the edge...

EDIT What i meant about the child porno is looking at teens like 10-15 WITH CLOTHES ON

PS I"M REALLY CLOSE TO MAKING A 100 RESPONDS!!!:D

[Whisper]

Abso-fucking-lutly
Throw away the key
PERIOD

For every minor that willingly poses a thousand more have been forced
Those that look at child porn are more likely to sexually assault a child

No kid should ever have to go through that
EVER

[Oblivion]

Abso-fucking-lutly
Throw away the key
PERIOD

For every minor that willingly poses a thousand more have been forced
Those that look at child porn are more likely to sexually assault a child

No kid should ever have to go through that
EVER

Agreed completely.
Children do not have the mental capacity to fully understand sex... Even adults have trouble with it.
No child should ever be able to choose to have sex with adults or be in porn, and any adult violators make me sick.

Think about this:
Should drinking and smoking be legal for kids, on the assumption that they have the ability to understand it's effects?
And don't say it should be illegal because it's physically unhealthy for kids... Sex with adults is too, except mentally as well.

[djunlogical]

Well, just to shar my opinion, I do actually believe that most children are more intelligent than we give thm credit for. We are getting to an age where people as young as 8 are talking aabout mlesting their sisters (boy down the road). If they can talk about it than they must comprehend atleas te short-term effects. sex is widely talked about and shown on the internet beause of spyware, malware, etc. Which are all present in many unsafe games for children. I do not believe that children asked politely would agree unless they knew the consequences. Forced porn is however wrong. People who rape children should be given the death penalty in my opinion (yes, i know its not around much) But to keepa balanced arguement, I think that being in posession of images should, at the most, be a fine, because it does not prove that you would willingly go and cmmit those deeds, It just shows an intrest.

Raping or commiting sexual acts to a minor is wrong, however, I dont believe that watching it being done is immoral. Just qute disturbing.

[Whisper]

I don't care how quickly a kid is forced to grow up the frontal cortex of the brain that voice in your head that goes "DON'T BE STUPID" is not developed until around 18-21yrs of age

Its been proven that those with images are more likely to assault

[Angster]

Lawrd, Loli's.
Pedophiles are disgusting, there's no point for it. It is TOO easy to obtain, just go on. Regardless, it's still wrong, children SHOULD NOT BE TAKEN ADVANTAGE OF LIKE THAT. Now, I say children, not teenagers. Just because someone is under the legal sex age, say 15, doesn't mean they're not ready for sex and doesn't mean that their sexy nudes are pedophilia.

[The Batman]

Please don't bump old threads read the post date before posting if it's older than a month than don't post. :locked: