Condoms in school bathrooms?

[Reality]

This is a fairly interesting debate topic I found on another forum. Do you reckon there should be condom vending machines in high school/secondary school bathrooms?

I think it's actually a decent idea. Teenagers spend a greater proportion of their time at school, and meet boyfriends/girlfriends in school, and having condom vending machines would definitely help to promote safe sex, and (theoretically, anyway) lower teenage pregnancies and STD cases.

Thoughts please. :yes:

[Mattyboi]

yes i totally agree. kids r gonna have sex anyways at least they can be safe.

[Sage]

The thing with schools is, most every teenager goes to one, and so there's no shame in going to get one discreetly from the bathroom.

[doktored]

It's not a bad idea, whether school money could be spent better elsewhere, parents complain or they get broken are some of my worries though.

[lamboman43]

It's not a bad idea, whether school money could be spent better elsewhere, parents complain or they get broken are some of my worries though.

I dont think it could ever happen because parents will complain. They will say it promotes sex. I agree it is a good idea, but i dont think it could happen.

[Hyper]

Its a good idea

But in reality in a way it does promote sex.. But the total influence on a teenagers mind, by having that condom vending machine in a bathroom, is at most 1%

So all in all its not a bad idea..

[Skeln]

I say it is a good idea, but yeah I also agree that it does promote sex, therefore I am against it. It will cost the school money it doesn't have, teenagers who are too shy to buy condems at stores yet wont have sex without one might start having sex, they could get broken by kids and all the condems can be stolen, and yeah there are several downfalls to it.

However, the good part is that more kids will probably practice safe sex, and it also can help prevent STD's.

All in all, I see the bad side affects outweight the good ones, so I say no.

[Sapphire]

I'm against it.
Teenagers can already get condoms free from drop-in health centers, buy them from chemists and shops along with other forms of contraception available from the health service.
Most of these provide them simultaneously with the opportunity to get medical advice. Condom vending machines make it a simple human-machine interaction with no advice given or received.

[Camazotz]

I'm against it.
Teenagers can already get condoms free from drop-in health centers, buy them from chemists and shops along with other forms of contraception available from the health service.
Most of these provide them simultaneously with the opportunity to get medical advice. Condom vending machines make it a simple human-machine interaction with no advice given or received.

I have to agree here. Making condoms more available will only "encourage" sex. There are plenty of better places where information is given, like health clinics. A vending machine does nothing to help the person besides providing a condom.

[Bougainvillea]

I think it would be innapropriate. That would be encouraging students.

[Stevo 69]

I think it's a good idea, we are always being told to use condoms but us teens (most) can feel embarrased when asking for them or buying them, so having them in a school is a good idea, they can be easily accessable with no fuss.
Maybe not a machine but another way like at my college:

At my College we have the CD scheme, this is a hassle free and no money involved way to get condoms, you have a card given to you by the College and can go to the reception, pharmacy or anywhere that supports the scheme and get given condoms with no questions asked.

I don't think it promotes sex, just encourages to use Condoms

[chazzrox2]

the problem is: what if it encourages sex when the kids are not actually ready for that sort of thing...i know plenty of people who wanted to wait but having the 'facilities' to do it may just promote it...

[nick]

Judging from the number of guys that dont like to buy lube in the shops maybe they could have slot machines for that too!

Actually I agree that it would probably encourage underage sex. Its not difficult to get hold of condoms anyway.

[Reality]

I don't think it promotes sex, just encourages to use Condoms
Yeah, exactly. I don't think it promotes sex, but it promotes safe sex.
Kids are going to have sex anyway. Preaching abstinence does nothing.

I can see why some people are against this, though.

Most of these provide them simultaneously with the opportunity to get medical advice. Condom vending machines make it a simple human-machine interaction with no advice given or received.
I see what you're saying, but condom vending machines save a lot of embarrassment, which is the good in it.
School sex ed/Citizenship classes can provide good medical sexual advice, anyway.

[miusha]

its a great idea to began with yet others would find very gross to even think teenagers would actually fuck in school.
parents would say no only because then they would know why kids are late coming home all the time b/c of the condoms in school.
plus if they did have condoms in school i would hope they had the ones wth the bumps on them for the girls pleasure!

[Sapphire]

Yeah, exactly. I don't think it promotes sex, but it promotes safe sex.
Kids are going to have sex anyway. Preaching abstinence does nothing.

I can see why some people are against this, though.

I see what you're saying, but condom vending machines save a lot of embarrassment, which is the good in it.
School sex ed/Citizenship classes can provide good medical sexual advice, anyway.It is promoting sex. Safe sex is still sex after all.

Where do kids get told in school about what to do if the condom splits? Also if the lessons provided by schools are so full of good medical advice why do we get so many people asking questions about this sort of stuff on here?

If the education given by schools were more comprehensive then I wouldn't have a problem with it. But the education system isn't by any means up to such a standard.

[Reality]

It is promoting sex. Safe sex is still sex after all.
I get what you're saying, but not saying anything about it or promoting abstinence doesn't do the issue any good, either.

Safe sex is better than unprotected sex, which is where all the problems lie.
In my opinion at least; there's nothing wrong with promoting safe sex.

We all know teens will do it anyway, whether sex/safe is promoted or not. It's the lesser of the two evils.

Where do kids get told in school about what to do if the condom splits? Also if the lessons provided by schools are so full of good medical advice why do we get so many people asking questions about this sort of stuff on here?
I guess you got me here. Not even I know that. >_>

If the education given by schools were more comprehensive then I wouldn't have a problem with it. But the education system isn't by any means up to such a standard.
True.

[Sapphire]

I get what you're saying, but not saying anything about it or promoting abstinence doesn't do the issue any good, either.

Safe sex is better than unprotected sex, which is where all the problems lie.
In my opinion at least; there's nothing wrong with promoting safe sex.

We all know teens will do it anyway, whether sex/safe is promoted or not. It's the lesser of the two evils.Tbh I was just pointing out that your statement made little sense because you can't say that it doesn't promote sex and then go on to say that it promotes safe sex in one sentence.

Of course the promotion of safe sex will be better than the promotion of unprotected sex. But until the education system has undergone a reform the benefits of the promotion of safe sex will be negated.

I hate the fact that kids know so much about sex at such young ages. They should be concerned with age-related things, not sex. They have their whole lives to have sex but childhood is over really quickly.

[Skeln]

I agree with Sapphire, and not all teens have sex anyways. For me, I've had several opperturnities to have sex, yet I said no because of fear of STD's. If we had a condem, then maybe I would have had sex.

On top of that, many kids don't have sex because they know they just can't take the risk of a child. If they had easier access to condems, then they just migth have sex.

[Reality]

Tbh I was just pointing out that your statement made little sense because you can't say that it doesn't promote sex and then go on to say that it promotes safe sex in one sentence.

Of course the promotion of safe sex will be better than the promotion of unprotected sex. But until the education system has undergone a reform the benefits of the promotion of safe sex will be negated.
What do you suggest, though? I can't think of anything that the education system can do to stop teenagers having sex, or even minimize it.

Promoting abstinence does nothing. Kids will always be like "lol fuk wot da teachers say im doing it anyway", and if nothing's said at all, you'll get angry teenage parents couples claiming the school taught them nothing and how they were 'naive'.

I suppose the only thing that would work is to say teenagers WILL get AIDS, the syph, pregnant, whatever, but that'd be wrong, because it'd be misinforming teenagers.

I hate the fact that kids know so much about sex at such young ages. They should be concerned with age-related things, not sex. They have their whole lives to have sex but childhood is over really quickly.
I can't really say anything about that because I'd probably have done it a year ago. But I guess we can blame our carefree, Liberal society for that, and movies/porn/music/videogames/whatever. lol.

[Sapphire]

What do you suggest, though? I can't think of anything that the education system can do to stop teenagers having sex, or even minimize it.

Promoting abstinence does nothing. Kids will always be like "lol fuk wot da teachers say im doing it anyway", and if nothing's said at all, you'll get angry teenage parents couples claiming the school taught them nothing and how they were 'naive'.

I suppose the only thing that would work is to say teenagers WILL get AIDS, the syph, pregnant, whatever, but that'd be wrong, because it'd be misinforming teenagers.
I'm not condoning preaching abstinence as the best way. In fact I am saying the exact opposite. But this isn't something which can be half done and still yield positive results. Until the government implements comprehensive sex education lessons then there are going to be high rates of teenage pregnancy regardless of whether the kids are told to abstain or not.

I can't really say anything about that because I'd probably have done it a year ago. But I guess we can blame our carefree, Liberal society for that, and movies/porn/music/videogames/whatever. lolI was one of these kids who know too much about sex for their age. I can't really say that I've benefited from losing a great deal of my childhood innocence before I even hit 11. I should have been concerned with water fights, rabbits, music and the such like. Not talking about, looking at and acting on sex and sexual activities.
Maybe this is why I have such a strong opinion on the matter.

[Reality]

I'm not condoning preaching abstinence as the best way. In fact I am saying the exact opposite. But this isn't something which can be half done and still yield positive results. Until the government implements comprehensive sex education lessons then there are going to be high rates of teenage pregnancy regardless of whether the kids are told to abstain or not.
So I suppose you're saying that kids should be taught all those proper condom techniques, and about the ECP, and etc etc, amongst countless other things, etc If so, then yeah, I agree.

But I just think condom vending machines will help to spread this message, although it's giving the message "its okay to have sex". But a teenager will be more likely to pick up a condom from a school bathroom, then go out to the local Pharmacy or Health Centre to get one.

I was one of these kids who knew too much about sex for their age. I can't really say that I've benefited from losing a great deal of my childhood innocence before I even hit 11. I should have been concerned with water fights, rabbits, music and the such like. Not talking about, looking at and acting on sex and sexual activities.
Maybe this is why I have such a strong opinion on the matter.
Laughing and grossing out at sex was a part of my childhood. :) Although I honestly didn't know how babies were made until I was 12, in which I learned it in Year 7 Biology class. Call me slow if you will. lol.

[Sapphire]

So I suppose you're saying that kids should be taught all those proper condom techniques, and about the ECP, and etc etc, amongst countless other things, etc If so, then yeah, I agree.I don't quite understand what you mean by "proper condom techniques".
I'm saying that they should be taught about different contraceptives and what to do if, for some reason, the chosen method fails (e.g. the condom splitting). The information they get on STDs could do with a touch up as well.

But I just think condom vending machines will help to spread this message, although it's giving the message "its okay to have sex". But a teenager will be more likely to pick up a condom from a school bathroom, then go out to the local Pharmacy or Health Centre to get one. If the education that kids received was better (as I have outlined) then the vending machines would be a good thing. However, until this happens then kids should rely on drop-in health clinics, pharmacies and doctors surgeries as they can provide much needed advice.

[andrewgonzalez]

I think its a good idea too, however, unless young males are educated on how to PROPERLY use one, they aren't of any use, are they? I mean they come with instructions, but who has time to read in the heat of things? I mean, we get mad at teens when they become pregnant/contract an STD because they didn't use a condom, yet we never showed them how to use one; instead, its a taboo thing. A lot of guys don't even realize that they can just walk into a store and buy one, or they're too embarrassed.

I can see where they kinda promote sex, but lets face it: the media is strong influence on teens anyways. And like Sapphire said, its better to promote safe sex than just allow unprotected sex to occur.

[Sapphire]

I think its a good idea too, however, unless young males are educated on how to PROPERLY use one, they aren't of any use, are they? I mean they come with instructions, but who has time to read in the heat of things? I mean, we get mad at teens when they become pregnant/contract an STD because they didn't use a condom, yet we never showed them how to use one; instead, its a taboo thing. A lot of guys don't even realize that they can just walk into a store and buy one, or they're too embarrassed.
In the UK the government do inform kids (at youth groups) about the correct ways to put condoms on etc. and we have the highest rate of teenage pregnancies in the whole of Europe. Trust me, the kids need more than "This is how you put on a condom".

[Skeln]

yeah...teens need chasity belts!

[Trickster]

I think it is good idea. Kids can get condoms from their local teen health center for free, so if you have in school it can do the same good. I think it should give you a pamphlet with it on how to use it and what can happen if used improoperly.
I would guess the worst possible scenario is that some immature kids may take all of them. Other then that, it a nice idea.

[Modus Operandi]

I believe it is a good idea. And to those saying it promotes sex, yes it does, but that dosen't mean kids will acctually HAVE more sex. And even if they do, it'll be safe(er) sex.

[Lights]

Not a chance of this ever happening in my school. It's just encouraging teens to have early sex.

[Jalin]

I think they should be sold in bathrooms. Good idea. ;)

[Reality]

I think they should be sold in bathrooms. Good idea. ;)
Unless you're meaning school bathrooms like what my topic is about - they are sold in some public bathrooms. Usually at bars, restaraunts and petrol stations. Well, depending on your country that is.

[Trickster]

Not a chance of this ever happening in my school. It's just encouraging teens to have early sex.

Kids and teens will have sex regardless. Condoms cost 5$ for a box of like 5-10 condoms. I dont believe giving condoms pushes sex it educates more. I got a bag of condoms that had like 20 in them it gave me some info to on what to do and how because i didnt know some things like how to take it off after climax. Giving condoms helps encourage safe sex. If teens will have sex might as well have them safe, responsible and know how to prevents STD's and unwanted pregnancies.

[justanotherguy93]

i think it is a great idea. but schools would debate on promoting sex