Killing Non-Humans

[Death]

I was going to name this poll "Killing Animals" but since humans class as animals, that would be inappropiate for my question. ;)

What are your views on killing non-human animals? Do you think that there's nothing wrong with it or is it discraceful or somewhere in between? Does it pehaps depend? What do you think? This is something that I've always been debating with myself.

[Hyper]

It is perfectly normal and okey - but only if done in moderation & according to need.

What humanity is doing right now is not so. I can understand the beauty of a fur coat... But too much is just too much.

[Camazotz]

I firmly believe that all kill is wrong, regardless of what or who you are killing. However, there comes a point where killing can be justified, but still remains wrong. Killing a chicken for food is still wrong, however it is justified.

[Koman]

I firmly believe that all kill is wrong, regardless of what or who you are killing. However, there comes a point where killing can be justified, but still remains wrong. Killing a chicken for food is still wrong, however it is justified.


I think that survival of the fittest is best. And i dont really care about hunting for recreational purposes.


Oh and offtopic to the last post.... (answer this in my t.i. Post cam). Is it okay to kill in self defense?

[Camazotz]

I think that survival of the fittest is best. And i dont really care about hunting for recreational purposes.


Oh and offtopic to the last post.... (answer this in my t.i. Post cam). Is it okay to kill in self defense?

Ah, the self-defense situation. I still stand by my reasoning that killing is always wrong, but may be justified in self-defense.

[Oblivion]

Nature has grown to be a very balanced place where there is an order of who kills what. So that's good with me, it balances nature.
I'm against sport hunting, hide hunting, and keeping animals in pens and breeding them just to be slaughtered.

[Koman]

Nature has grown to be a very balanced place where there is an order of who kills what. So that's good with me, it balances nature.
I'm against sport hunting, hide hunting, and keeping animals in pens and breeding them just to be slaughtered.

Yea i agree, the hunting that dick cheney and his presidetial friends take part in is sick. Also now you can go online pay and control a stationary gun and shoot animals from your pc.

[Zazu]

I don't think it's right as such; but justified as long as the dead animal is going to be used for something i.e. for the meat.

[CookieMonster]

I'm okay with killing animals when food is needed, but not for fun. I'm not okay with killing animals for the hide and only the hide.

[Perseus]

I think it's only necessary for food because otherwise, it's just stupid. As long as I don't see how they're killed, Im not going to make a big scene because if I see something die, I'll probably cry(not intended ryhme :P)

[Underground_Network]

Killing for food, but not excessively is fine in my opinion. Killing for fun/sport (in terms of animals) is something that really bugs me... And killing for things like clothing/etc. is something I'm okay with to an extent, but it does seem to get a little extreme... If you can make clothes without having to kill an animal, then why the f don't you? What's so special about it being "natural" fur as opposed to artificial? Does it make you feel special to be wearing a part of a dead animal?

[TigerLily]

I'm vegetarian, and so I choose not to eat meat myself, but I wouldn't label it as 'wrong' because I think that's too broad a statement, and to me vegetarianism is a personal choice as opposed to a simple right/wrong issue.
Hunting for recreational purposes, killing animals for cosmetic and unnecessary reasons (ie fur coats, ivory, animal testing in the beauty and cosmetics industry etc) are all, imo, morally objectionable practises.

[Skeln]

Well, for fun I'm opposed to it. I'm also opposed to killing an animal slowly, and painfully. If you're going to eat an animal or your getting hides or whatever, then kill the animal in one shot. If you don't kill it the first shot, hurry the f up and shoot the poor creature in the middle of the eyes so it's doesn't suffer!

I also am opposed to keeping ajnimals in pens and let them lead miserable lives. My grandfather grew up on a farm, and his fathers livestock were allowed to roam freely for miles. Heck his dog soemtimes ran off miles away to the butchers shop, and then would eventually come back with a nice,pig pig head. (It is unknown whether the dog was a theif or was receiving donations). Basically, my point is that animals were meant to roam free, so don't keep them locked up. If they're free, they're happy and are not sickly and spreading diseases to their neighboring hens as easily. Illness spreads fast when you're crammed in a cage with a bunch of friends. They didn't keep them penned up, and they certainly did their best to make the animals happy. Even when it came time to eat one they tried to kill it as painlessly as possible.

[RandomChick242]

Okay, I ABLOLUTELY HATE hurting all animals, but I do love ribbs, steak, hamburgers, chicken, and so forth so I only see it okay for food, but if it's for fur, hunting for fun, or other shit like that then FUCK NO! lol

[INFERNO]

I'm slightly divided depending on the type of animal. For me, dogs and most cats are off-limits to torture, killing and severe abuse and neglect. For other non-human animals, I don't care too much about whether or not they're killed. Generally, for all non-human animals, the killing needs to be justified. Killing simply for the hell of it I find rather pointless. If you're going to kill something or someone, at least have a reason for it. If the animal is to be killed for its meat and fur, then even if it is a dog (I can bend my own morals depending on the situation), then I'm fine with that.

For hunting, I say to do it properly, not the hunting where an animal is drugged by someone so someone else can shoot the animal. That I don't find to be hunting but rather a lame excuse to boost one's self-esteem and ego.

So, overall, as long as there is a reason for it, then I'll be fine with it. For dogs and most cats, they get an exception (not going to give my reasons here, it'll take the thread off-topic).

[Sapphire]

We are naturally omnivores and so to kill for food is justified.
If the animal is incurably ill/disabled then to put it out of its misery by killing it is ok.
To kill animals for any other reason is cruel.

[Atonement]

For mercy, okay.
For fun, no.
For food, okay.

If you go out and shoot an animal and just hide it and get rid of the carcass (sp?) then I think it is wrong. But if you kill an animal and use all of the meat and body you can for help to live, its fine.

[Jawsh]

Coming from a hunting family, I see it the way I learned by myself and the way that my dad, brother, and sister taught me, that if you are going to hunt, kill, etc. an animal, then you must use its parts, such as the meat for food. Rather than, I killed a deer, now what do I do with it. I also believe that it is okay to mount, stuff, or whatever you call it, an animal, after taking all of the usable parts from the animal. I know that there will most likely be disagreement with my post, but that is my opinion. ;)

[Death]

I believe that killing an animal to bring it out of its misery is fine. In fact, I think that a merciful coup de grace is a good act. Killing them for food when required I think is justifiable (we are omnivores after all) so long as you do not abuse that right. Killing it for hide, ivory and stuff however is pushing it too far and just for fun, well, how twisted can your mind be? I mean seriously, there are plenty of other fun things you can do - surely! That's my thoughts on it. I voted for "Only when you need the food but try to avoid it.".

By the way, thankyou for all the posts! Quite a lot actually, which is always good. :yes:

[rainebg]

I personally would kill an animal if i needed the food. That's what animals do it's natural and definitely justified.

[Jean Poutine]

Depends.

If you're going to eat it, kill it all you want, but cleanly please - I'm a huge sucker for all meat and I probably eat 90% of Quebec's production of beef, veal, pork, fish and poultry alone. It'd be hypocritical of me to condemn killing things to eat them.

If it suffers, kill it cleanly, rapidly, efficiently and painlessly. Like something caught in a bear trap. At least put a bullet through the head after. Or a dog with cancer. Euthanasia > suffering.

For any other reason, if you kill an animal - you suck and you're a bastard and I hate you and go to hell. Simply put, you're a jerk.

I hate bastards that poison squirrels - squirrels are my favourite animal and your flowers are ugly so I don't care if squirrels like to eat the bulbs. And so is your mother.

[Death]

Nicely put!

[Skeln]

I hate bastards that poison squirrels - squirrels are my favourite animal and your flowers are ugly so I don't care if squirrels like to eat the bulbs. And so is your mother.
You have to realize that squirrels are vermin. And, like most-all vermin, they cause damage. especially squirrels seeing as how they now ive in our back yards. They can cause a tremendous amount of damage to property and I find that killing squirrels humanely is justified if it is to eat it, use it's fur, or to keep your property safe.

I believe that if you are going to kill any creature, then it should only be for beneficial reasons other than emotional ones. Just because you're feeling down and you get your spirits up when you hunt doesn't really give you a proper right to kill an animal if you ask me. Other WILD animals, not tame house animals that live care-free lives, kill other animals for the exact same thing. It's to eat the animal, protect their families/territory, or to prevent it from destroying their home.