helping my friends

[DonnieDarko3]

i have a handful of friends that are either suicidal or they hurt themselves
i dislike it greatly and ive tried everything to try to get them to stop like explain to them that it hurts me, and that theres other ways to show pain every time i try to give them other things they can do (ex: taking walks, writing stories, those type of things) they always find excuses of why they wouldnt work
i really want ideas on how i could stop them :( please help me and give me ideas

[BuryYourFlame]

i know it might take a while to get through, and hopefully you can find some that you think would work here: http://www.virtualteen.org/forums/announcement.php?f=16&a=52
i am giving you this big list cause i dont know your friends, so i dont know what they are like, or which of these would work for them...

hope this helps :)