Jesus, this kid is going to kill himself..

[Jman35]

http://www.virtualteen.org/forums/showthread.php?t=39120

See that if you haven't already before you read this...


That same kid, "A", just got dropped at school again, it was pathetic. He started some more shit, and then tried to run away and tell teachers. My other friend, was sick and tired of it, and finally said, and I quote, "fuck it, I don't give a shit if I get suspended, that motherfucker is done."

Later that day at lunch, my friend went up to him, pulled him around to his face, said "good night" and gave him a straight right hand to the jaw, and across to the lip and nose. This kid had a lip the size of 4 of my thumbs, and a bruised jaw. He was OUT cold.

Point is, this kid isn't going to stop, I've talked to him, some other kids talk to him, some of the "popular" kids even try to hang with him, because EVERYONE thinks he is going to be the kid to freak out and bring the MP5 to school and go out on everyone.

Either that, or he will kill himself, and nobody wants that. At least 30% of the kids only beat him up, just because if they didn't, it would be around everywhere that the kid that refused to fight was to pussy to fight someone who's never won. BUT THAT KID STILL STARTS IT

I don't know what to do anymore with this kid.

[IfPiratesCouldFly]

Have people tried to genuinely talk to him? To honestly befriend him as aggrivating as it may be.
Does he have friends?

[Jman35]

Have people tried to genuinely talk to him? To honestly befriend him as aggrivating as it may be.
Does he have friends?

No he doesn't have friends, and people have tried talking to him, and some kids even went to one of his "parties."

And he himself isn't aggravating, but his attitude and the shit he does is, like starting things and then backing out and then starting up again, etc.

[IfPiratesCouldFly]

Have you tried simply ignoring him?

[Cloud]

Why dont YOU talk to him and try and find out why hes doing all that stuff. violence jsut fucks stuff up so jsut talk to the kid. if he does kill himslef next year then thats on your conscience for never taking the oppurtunity to try adn find out wahts wrong

[IfPiratesCouldFly]

Shouldn't be on his conscience, nto his responsibility, not his child, maybe his parents should do that, maybe his parents should do something about their child acting up in school, not him. He would have no reason to feel guilty about the kid killing himself.
He didn't cause the kid to kill him self.

But yes, if you're willing, try talking to him.

[Jman35]

Shouldn't be on his conscience, nto his responsibility, not his child, maybe his parents should do that, maybe his parents should do something about their child acting up in school, not him. He would have no reason to feel guilty about the kid killing himself.
He didn't cause the kid to kill him self.

But yes, if you're willing, try talking to him.
I have tried to talk to him as stated before, he claims victim and act like everyone hates him, honestely, I think he WANTs people to hate him.

[INFERNO]

After re-reading the link, all of this seems to be attention-seeking behavior. If he truly wanted to fight someone, then he'd go and fight them fist-to-fist. But he doesn't want to, as indicated by him backing out every time. So, I have a question regarding how he was whenever he first began this when you were around up until now: since he has more people around him, has he increased his antics or decreased or stayed the same?

I'm not entirely sure why you think he'll kill himself though. So far, I've only gotten him wanting attention and loving it. Does he do anything else? Describe how he is in a typical class (i.e. where you're around, not some nonsense of "my friend's friend said he..."). If you're not in a class with him, then whenever you're around him the most, describe how he acts, what he does, both when he is engaging others and when he isn't.

[Triceratops]

After re-reading the link, all of this seems to be attention-seeking behavior. If he truly wanted to fight someone, then he'd go and fight them fist-to-fist. But he doesn't want to, as indicated by him backing out every time. So, I have a question regarding how he was whenever he first began this when you were around up until now: since he has more people around him, has he increased his antics or decreased or stayed the same?

I'm not entirely sure why you think he'll kill himself though. So far, I've only gotten him wanting attention and loving it. Does he do anything else? Describe how he is in a typical class (i.e. where you're around, not some nonsense of "my friend's friend said he..."). If you're not in a class with him, then whenever you're around him the most, describe how he acts, what he does, both when he is engaging others and when he isn't.

I agree with everything said here.
If he increases his antics and continues this behaviour then you should ignore him. When all the attention he gets decreases, that might just prevent him from acting in such a manner.

[Jman35]

After re-reading the link, all of this seems to be attention-seeking behavior. If he truly wanted to fight someone, then he'd go and fight them fist-to-fist. But he doesn't want to, as indicated by him backing out every time. So, I have a question regarding how he was whenever he first began this when you were around up until now: since he has more people around him, has he increased his antics or decreased or stayed the same?

I'm not entirely sure why you think he'll kill himself though. So far, I've only gotten him wanting attention and loving it. Does he do anything else? Describe how he is in a typical class (i.e. where you're around, not some nonsense of "my friend's friend said he..."). If you're not in a class with him, then whenever you're around him the most, describe how he acts, what he does, both when he is engaging others and when he isn't.

He always seemed depressed and playing victim.

"(name), why don't you TRY making friends?"
"I do nobody likes me QQ"

He has no friends to my knowledge, he is in my first hour, and whenever he gets rocked, he makes everyone, mostly adults, feel bad for him.

[shelb angs]

Well although he's 'starting' everything, he's still a victim of assault since other people are beating him up and he isn't throwing the first punch.
Whenever he starts shit, talking, acting ect, just ignore him. He's just trying to get attention by playing the victim and if he's not getting the attention he wants, then his attitude will change. I highly doubt he'll shoot up the school or hurt himself. That isn't the attention he wants. he wants attention solely from others at school.

[Death]

I find it amazing to think that one would crave attention to the extent of pissing everyone off despte the assault that one would need to be the victim of consequently. Why he couldn't get said attention from being nice is beyond me but that doesn't matter; as was said before, you should try ignoring him and hopefully he will shut up. This in fact reminds me of a kid I kno in my class although my case is nowhere near as bad as yours. I don't think he truly wants fights to start - he just want attention. Don't give it to him. I doubt that he's actully going to kill himself though. At least I hope he doesn't.

[Specter]

How about you guys just leave the poor kid alone.

[YourFriend]

How about you guys just leave the poor kid alone.

Agreed, who knwos waht's going on in hsi head?

[foof1]

maybe he has family problems and just needs a friend. he might also have trust issues if he seems unable to make friends so you'd have to work with that

my brother has a hunger thing where he gets really angry when hes hungry and maybe this kid doesn't bring a lunch to school

[Jman35]

How about you guys just leave the poor kid alone.

Agreed, who knwos waht's going on in hsi head?

maybe he has family problems and just needs a friend. he might also have trust issues if he seems unable to make friends so you'd have to work with that

my brother has a hunger thing where he gets really angry when hes hungry and maybe this kid doesn't bring a lunch to school


Leave the kid alone? We try, don't gimmie that bullshit you sound like a teacher who has no idea whats going on.

What's going on in his head is obviously, hey I'll benefit by startin shit somehow.

Maybe he does have family problems, but still, just because he has family problems is no excuse, I could honestly care less about him, but I see what's going to happen, I KNOW, and I want to know how to stop it

[CairAndros]

Here is an idea, and it might sound a good bit harsh but here goes, the next time that he tries to "fight" with someone instead of punching him grab him and hold him down and just interrogate him - no violence just very agressive questioning, and try to get an answer out of him as to why he is doing it. Another option would be to agree to the fight and then tell people you are going to back out in order to have his plan backfire on him and see how he reacts then. If he is attention seeking then he will love plan B because the person has pulled out of a fight with him however Plan A will help you get to the bottom of this.

[Zeavix]

maybe his home life isnt to great.or maybe he is just a punk.

[diamond jetstream]

if he has no friends then he is angry at the world for being a loner and he probably craves attention. give him a drink and sit down to talk with him hes probably being abused and when he starts on people he thinks about the abuse and backs down. help him break the chains that hold him to misery and anger:(

[SoFlaDude]

I've had a kid like this go to my school, and everyone tried to act nice to him, but to no avail. Thankfully, my school kicked him out, and his psycologist sent him to a "special" school for children with psycological disorders.

[Confused123]

I had someone in my 6-8th grade year like that. I think he used to have some sort of mental disorder so people would make fun of him but I tried to be his friends so he would just talk about me and I told him "Dude, Wtf is your problem I haven't said crap about you and i'm your only friend and your talking sh** " then he just skipped away (he literally skipped) this was in 7th grade then in 8th grade I had him for history AGAIN so I just started messing with him cause I just hated his guts I would do immature things like throw books and pencils at him and I was about to punch him but the teacher got inbetween us so I made a personal Vow to stop being an ass to him (even though he did it first) and we just started to become acquaintances.

Maybe its not much like yours but just ignore the kid and talk to him if that doesn't work then in my opinion he's not worth your time.