Most horrible murderer

[left footed mofo]

Ok, i'm bored, here's who every one is.

Charles Manson: I'm sure everyone knows.

Dante Arthurs (Robert Thompson): One of James Bulgar's killers who were given new identities to escape what they had done, he re-offended. Dante was diagnosed with Asperger's Syndrome.

Robert Napper: Autistic and Schizophrenic, Napper's first crime was shooting someone with an air rifle, he was released. Before he was finally arrested, he had killed 6 people and raped 70. One of his murders was so gruesome that the police photographer had to take an extended leave after seeing it. Another particularly nasty one was killing a mother in front of her 2 year old. He would also sometimes spy on his victims (including his sister) getting undressed/having sex before he killed them.

O.J. Simpson: As with Manson, pretty famous.

Other: please let me know (i don't want to see Freddy, Michael or Jason showing up.)

[Oblivion]

Simpson wasn't proven guilty, he was proven not-guilty of murder. Just adding that in :P

[Perseus]

What did Charles Manson do? I've kinda forgoten...

[nick]

Dante Arthurs I'd never heard of, having looked him up it seems certain he is not Robert Thompson.

Personally I find the crimes of Josef Fritzl at least as bad as any of these. Unspeakably horrible.

Near to where I live we had a mass murderer who mudered some of his own children amongst others, Frederick West. He'd be near the top of my list. Also there was a doctor, Harold Shipman, don't know how many old people he did away with but it was a lot!

[INFERNO]

Aww, so many good ones weren't listed :lol: . I'm a fan of serial killers, have books on them, have profiles that FBI agents and forensic psychologists wrote up. I'm going to have to vote "other" as, although Charles Manson is very well-known, compared to the other killers, he's not the worst, not even close by my opinion. But by worst, do you mean most killed or most brutal? Either way, Manson isn't at the top for me.

[theOperaGhost]

I say it's a toss up between Jeffrey Dahmer and John Wayne Gacy for me.

Jeffrey Dahmer raped and murder like 17 boys, engaged in necrophilia and cannibalism, and was just a sick, twisted person.

John Wayne Gacy raped and murdered at least 33 boys and stored them in the crawl space of his home and some in a nearby lake (or some body of water). What makes him so bad in my opinion is the fact that he was a professional clown and entertained at childrens' birthday parties and such. Everyone wonders why so many people are scared of clowns...lol

I, like INFERNO, am a fan of serial killers. Although I don't have any books on them, I have done presentations and papers on the subject. I find it fascinating. I want to be a forensic psychologist.

[Perseus]

Oh, Jared, your post reminds me of a murderer I saw on the History Channel, I think.
Well anyway, the guy would lure little girls(long time ago, early 1900s or so), or boys, I forgot, and take them to his cabin and kill the child and eat them. So, I think its the same person as you described, Jared.
Kinda messed up in my opinion.

[Koman]

Why the hell is jack the ripper not up there. Everyone, EVERYONE, knows who he is.

[Perseus]

Whoa, how does everyone forget about Jack the Ripper?
That dude was just wow. i watched a video on what he did and just wow.

[Koman]

Whoa, how does everyone forget about Jack the Ripper?
That dude was just wow. i watched a video on what he did and just wow.


Just something about his sneak lurkiness is so creepy.

[Perseus]

The only reason he was able kill a lot of people because he killed mainly prostetutes(?) and on the video I saw they said that the path of which he killed people was in the Jesus fish thing, ironic if you ask me.

[INFERNO]

I say it's a toss up between Jeffrey Dahmer and John Wayne Gacy for me.

Jeffrey Dahmer raped and murder like 17 boys, engaged in necrophilia and cannibalism, and was just a sick, twisted person.

John Wayne Gacy raped and murdered at least 33 boys and stored them in the crawl space of his home and some in a nearby lake (or some body of water). What makes him so bad in my opinion is the fact that he was a professional clown and entertained at childrens' birthday parties and such. Everyone wonders why so many people are scared of clowns...lol

I, like INFERNO, am a fan of serial killers. Although I don't have any books on them, I have done presentations and papers on the subject. I find it fascinating. I want to be a forensic psychologist.

Ah yes, I forgot you were also a serial killer fan when I wrote my response. Perhaps we'll be forensic psychologists later on, assuming I don't do neuroscience (doubtful that I'll steer away from it).

For me, there's a nice long list. Starting with amount killed, then I'd have to say Dr. Death or the Demon Doctor or a cannibalistic family that killed I think 300+ (forgot the name of them, I'll look it up later).

In terms of brutality, it ranges from the Vampire of Sacremento, Jeffrey Dahmer, Andrei Chikatilo, Albert Fish (surprised you didn't mention him), John Wayne Gacy and Vincenz Verzini (supposed vampire, immense fascination with sadism and loved blood of others). I'm sure I have some other favourites, however, that is the brief list.

EDIT: With Jack the Ripper, in comparison to the other ones I mentioned, he neither killed the most (Dr. Death killed around 250 for sure, although some debate he killed 459 or so people) and was not extremely brutal in comparison to others (i.e. Verzini or Dahmer).

[Perseus]

There was a queen in Translavaynia that bathed in the blood of virgins. Just putting that out as another possibility becuase she killed a lot of people because she thought it'd make her look young and live forever and all that.

[theOperaGhost]

Oh, Jared, your post reminds me of a murderer I saw on the History Channel, I think.
Well anyway, the guy would lure little girls(long time ago, early 1900s or so), or boys, I forgot, and take them to his cabin and kill the child and eat them. So, I think its the same person as you described, Jared.
Kinda messed up in my opinion.

Jeffrey Dahmer murdered between 1978 and 1991 and John Wayne Gacy murdered between 1972 and 1978, so it wasn't either of them.

Another murderer who could be considered one of the worst is Ted Bundy. He confessed to 30 murders, but estimates range from being 30-100 victims killed by him.

Everyone also seems to have forgotten the Zodiac Killer. Oh so many murderers! I love it!

[Perseus]

The only thing is, I forgot when the murderer I mentioned did his murders because he sounds like one of the people you described. ANd this talk of murder has got me paranoid.. *sad face*

[INFERNO]

There was a queen in Translavaynia that bathed in the blood of virgins. Just putting that out as another possibility becuase she killed a lot of people because she thought it'd make her look young and live forever and all that.

Ah yes, good ol' Elizabeth Bathory.

Jeffrey Dahmer murdered between 1978 and 1991 and John Wayne Gacy murdered between 1972 and 1978, so it wasn't either of them.

Another murderer who could be considered one of the worst is Ted Bundy. He confessed to 30 murders, but estimates range from being 30-100 victims killed by him.

Everyone also seems to have forgotten the Zodiac Killer. Oh so many murderers! I love it!

Haha, the murderers are amazing, aren't they? But don't forget, Dr. Death killed 250 or so, possibly 450 and the Demon Doctor (during WWI or WWII) killed at least more than Dr. Death's count.

[left footed mofo]

OMG! How did i forget Jefery Dhalmer and Jack the Ripper? Sorry guys!
Dr Death wasn't that messed up, plus, he only actually killed one person, all the others technically killed themselves

[Sapphire]

The only reason he was able kill a lot of people because he killed mainly prostetutes(?) and on the video I saw they said that the path of which he killed people was in the Jesus fish thing, ironic if you ask me.
Actually, they didn't have any forensics at the time, the police force were new and inadequate and there were power struggles between the City and Met forces. Those were more contributory to him not being caught.

[left footed mofo]

The only reason he was able kill a lot of people because he killed mainly prostetutes(?) and on the video I saw they said that the path of which he killed people was in the Jesus fish thing, ironic if you ask me.

There's a gap in my knowledge, what's a Jesus fish?

[Coolguy95]

the Zodiac is the worst!- he raped an killed alot of people

[Perseus]

The fish Christians use to represent Jesus, I'm not really up to date on my Jesus fish knowledge. :P

[theOperaGhost]

For me, there's a nice long list. Starting with amount killed, then I'd have to say Dr. Death or the Demon Doctor or a cannibalistic family that killed I think 300+ (forgot the name of them, I'll look it up later).


That is the Bean family, I believe. In Scotland?

[theOperaGhost]

the Zodiac is the worst!- he raped an killed alot of people

I don't really consider the Zodiac the worst...although he is the most elusive. He had balls...calling the cops and writing letters to inform police of the murders he committed. It's still unsolved to this day. They did arrest one suspect, but he was never charged. Several years after the prime suspect died, DNA concluded that he was not the Zodiac Killer. He didn't kill the most people or do the worst crimes, but he certainly is up there..

[Underground_Network]

Andrei Chikatilo.

I may have misspelled his name.

He killed and ate (maybe he didn't eat them 0.o) hundreds of people during the "depression" in the Soviet Union. (I'm not exactly sure of the accuracy here lol, just something I read like three years ago...)

But here's a wiki of Chikatilo: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrei_Chikatilo

[theOperaGhost]

I found a couple more good ones... Henry Lee Lucas and Ottis Toole. Pedro Lopez.

[Perseus]

And what did those people do? Lol...

[Underground_Network]

Intriguing: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_murderers_by_number_of_victims

[Perseus]

Holy crap, I can't believe I forgot about the Boston Strangler.

[Underground_Network]

I can't find any proof that the guy on top of that list ever existed, but Varon, the second guy on that list from Wikipedia, definitely killed 592 people. I'd say its tough to top that.

[INFERNO]

OMG! How did i forget Jefery Dhalmer and Jack the Ripper? Sorry guys!
Dr Death wasn't that messed up, plus, he only actually killed one person, all the others technically killed themselves

No, Dr.Death killed quite a few. He killed 250 for sure, debatable for 459. He gave his patients a lethal dose of diamorphine (heroin), which was legal at that time. I have no idea where you got information that he only killed one.

That is the Bean family, I believe. In Scotland?

Yes, I believe it is the Beane family.

I found a couple more good ones... Henry Lee Lucas and Ottis Toole. Pedro Lopez.

Ah yes, Lucas and Toole. I'm not sure how many they killed, as it seems to range from 69-81 victims. Lucas was a fan of necrophilia (sex with the dead) and some beastiality (sex with animals) as well as torture of animals (and perhaps of humans too).

In 1998, George W. Bush (governor then) ordered the death sentence for Lucas. However, Lucas managed to evade that, evaded a lethal injection but in 2001, died from heart attack =/.

Pedro Lopez was a South American serial killer, killed around 300 or so and was almost killed by Peruvian Indians but got rescued by a female missionary so he could be brought to the Peruvian police. Amazingly, they released him to Ecuador and surprise, surprise, he killed and raped some more.

A rather high number, reaching tens of thousands or so was by the man I've mentioned before, Dr. Shiro Ishii (aka. Demon Doctor). He was part of a biological-warfare unit for Japan and his "tests" he did led to his nice high amount of kills. He gave them cholera, anthrax, bubonic plague, etc... as disease and some got phosphorus burns, all were human experiments. I believe he got one of or possibly the highest kill rate, although, I'm not sure if he'd be considered a serial killer.

The information was from The A to Z Encyclopedia of Serial Killers by Harold Schechter and David Everitt and for the Demon Doctor: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shiro_Ishii

[theOperaGhost]

Dr. Kevorkian (Dr. Death) was only charged for killing one man, and he was only charged for second degree murder. To be completely honest, I don't view what he did as all that terrible, and neither does he. He's quoted to have said "My aim was to end suffering" which is indeed what he did. He aided in the suicide of terminal patients as well as supported euthanasia. I know what it is like to work with terminal patients, as I work in a nursing home. I can tell you that those people do suffer and most of them are ready to die and have lived their lives (as well as having no chance at having any life in the future). I can understand where he is coming from (although I can't say I support suicide in any way).

And actually, Lucas and Toole confessed to over 500 murders between them. Most officials doubt the 500, but estimate about 200 victims. They had some fucked up lives...I tell ya....one's mom is an alcoholic prostitute who beat him...the other's mother dressed him in girls clothes, abused him, etc. He suffered from incest with his mother and sister. His grandmother was a satanist...some fucked up people...

[Camazotz]

Since there are so many, I'm going to say Vlad the Impaler. Although he didn't kill as much as some of these murderers, the gruesome ways he'd kill his victims is frightening.

[Sapphire]

There's a gap in my knowledge, what's a Jesus fish?
It wasn't the "Jesus fish thing" as he stated.
I believe the different sites formed the shape of the Star of David.

[Perseus]

Sapphire, it was actually the Jesus Fish, unless I was lied to from Nat Geo.

[Sapphire]

Sapphire, it was actually the Jesus Fish, unless I was lied to from Nat Geo.
I can't see the fish for the life of me. It's at least two points short of looking anything like that fish shape.
However, if you look for it, you can see a star.

[Perseus]

The video I watched from Nat Geo had a different path that was in the shape of the Jesus Fish. I guess one of us is wrong. o.O

[Koman]

If we consider murder defending your land from russians in world war 2 ( i think) murder then here is a guy who killed 700 russians by himself with his trusty rifle. He killed 506 with his rifle and then like 200 or so with his smg. All the whole time while hiding ontop of a snow pioe or a tree or something. He also got shot in the head and the russians thought he was dead, but they were wrong. He lived.

Within 100 days aswell.

[Sapphire]

The video I watched from Nat Geo had a different path that was in the shape of the Jesus Fish. I guess one of us is wrong. o.O
The map I posted is correct and is held to be so in every source I have ever seen.

Some places include additional attacks that aren't definitely the work of Jack the Ripper which is the only reason I can think of for differences between maps.

[Perseus]

I don't see the Star of David, though.
I sorta can see a tip of a star, but that's it.

[Sapphire]

I had been told that it was there though I haven't seen it either. I can, however, see a sort of squashed 5 point star. It is a lot more plausible than the fish thing.