Liberation Theology

[WelshLad]

During the 1970s/1980s and even today, some governments of Latin American countries were very corrup, keeping its people poor and hungry while they keep the wealth.
Some Catholic priests such as Oscar Romero urged people to rebel against the government. He was assassinated during mass by government agents in 1980.
The Bible teaches Christians that no government would exist without God so should the church interfere?

[TheWizard]

No

Religion has no place in government.

Remember the middle ages

[redcar]

i think if its in the name of good they should do it.

[Kiros]

Church and state are separate, but most people misunderstand what that actually means. It means that the government cannot interfere with a religious belief and/or that it cannot control a person's religion. However, if a church sees fit, I think it should step in to help out the well-being of nations.

[Dfsg]

Agreed, Kiros. Hey, this world can take any bit of help it can get, and if the Catholic church wants to help, why not?

[boognish]

the reason why not is that the churches beliefs could interfere with the laws and actions made by the government. also the churches arnt always as nice as one would think, there was 1 church charity that was closed because the church would not help homeless and destitute people unless they renounced their god and went through all of the procedures that church practised

the church ideals of life have caused research that could have saved millions of lives from the medicine it would have developed to be stoped, because the way to do the research would include abortion and tests on the aborted fetus, yes stem cells.

also the church is a major factor in the gay marrige issue. personally i dont give a flying crap what the church defines marrige, but marrige is a religious thing, the governemt has no right to deny any homosexual man or woman from being married, the church does. but the governement does have the right to deny those people the benifits and privilages that married people get. in essence, the governement has the right to deny a civil union. a civil union though should be allowed to every man or women regardless of the couple. now churches can do what they want, since marrige is between a man and a women, but civil unions are between anyone, the government should not have the ability to marry people but unionize them. MARRIGE IS A RELIGIOUS THING. marrige involves ritual, union invole a court room. also i would like to finish this part with the fact that the bible does acctually say that homosexuallity is wrong(matt. 5:32 and cor. 6:13 i think), and thats the reason im not christian.

so seperation of church in state should mean that the government has none to little influence on church activites, and the church has none to little affiliation with the governement. but thats not true, not at all. great idea on paper, impossible in reality. i heard about this idea a book read about, money greed and sex are not the roots of all evil, religion is the root of all evil.

[Kiros]

Max! Welcome back! :D

[Webbeardthepirate]

Liberation theology was communism in disguise. Pope bennedict XVI, when he was the head of the council on the faith or whatever it was, fought and stamped out liberation theology. Its the communist version of what hitler did to the protostant churches before WWII, twisting beliefs to perverse ends. The church could not fulfill its mission of helping the poor if the government throw it out. It has been along time since the church commanded armies in the field, middle ages like. The churches proper place is like what the pope did getting Pinochet to promis to have elections in Chile and abide by the results, not sewing rebelion and insurgency and armed conflict, like the Liberation Theologists would have had them do. Ghandi, not Mao should be the guide forward. Martin Luther King Junior, not Oscar Romero should be your guide as to how to deal with an unfair government.

[kolte]

Liberation theology was communism in disguise. Pope bennedict XVI, when he was the head of the council on the faith or whatever it was, fought and stamped out liberation theology. Its the communist version of what hitler did to the protostant churches before WWII, twisting beliefs to perverse ends. The church could not fulfill its mission of helping the poor if the government throw it out. It has been along time since the church commanded armies in the field, middle ages like. The churches proper place is like what the pope did getting Pinochet to promis to have elections in Chile and abide by the results, not sewing rebelion and insurgency and armed conflict, like the Liberation Theologists would have had them do. Ghandi, not Mao should be the guide forward. Martin Luther King Junior, not Oscar Romero should be your guide as to how to deal with an unfair government.

here here I say. Its about time we do out with violence to overthrough a government, lets try to learn from Ghandi and MLKJ. here here indeed.

[Dawncloack]

Liberation theology was communism in disguise. Pope bennedict XVI, when he was the head of the council on the faith or whatever it was, fought and stamped out liberation theology. Its the communist version of what hitler did to the protostant churches before WWII, twisting beliefs to perverse ends. The church could not fulfill its mission of helping the poor if the government throw it out. It has been along time since the church commanded armies in the field, middle ages like. The churches proper place is like what the pope did getting Pinochet to promis to have elections in Chile and abide by the results, not sewing rebelion and insurgency and armed conflict, like the Liberation Theologists would have had them do. Ghandi, not Mao should be the guide forward. Martin Luther King Junior, not Oscar Romero should be your guide as to how to deal with an unfair government.

Well, I do not exactly agree. It obviously was a lefty vision of Christianism, but I would not go as far as saying communism (which by the way, does not work, did you know that? lol). That is just opinion, of course.

And just as a footnote, Liberation Theology was not the Catholic Church. The Vatican tried many times to smash it, it still is for all I know.
Mr. Ratzinger (Mazinger or Nazinger, for that irrespective part within you) has been slandering them before he came to office.

Of course, you are absolutely right in your mention of Ghandi and Martin Luther King.

[kolte]

and max I agree with you as well, Religion is the foundation for evil, greed, and perversion. I'll take this time, to quote my book:

"....christians preach tolerance, true, tolerance for them, accept them, but then they express hate and violence to gays, muslims, people of different race, religion and political morals. It really goes to show that christians created hipocrocy...."