Rap, hip-hop??

[INFERNO]

This isn't a thread about which artists you like, there are other threads for that so please don't begin saying "my favourite/least favourite artists is...".

I have asked this question numerous times and shockingly, I've gotten little responses IRL from people who claim to know so much about it. Perhaps on here, someone can educate me and make me less musically-retarded.

What is the difference between rap and hip-hop? I listen to some of both whenever someone tells me to (and I feel like it), and it sounds almost the same. Yet, some claim to hate hip-hop but love rap or vice-versa, yet whenever I ask the difference, I tend to get an answer of "don't you know???", as though it's some extremely obvious thing that I'm apparently not grasping.

So, anyone care to explain? While you're at it, can you also explain the differences with pop, reggae and R&B, in addition to rap and hip-hop?

Answers of "it's obvious" or other troll-like answers are useless.

[Koman]

Rap is music like lil wayne, 50 cent, and the game. Hip hop if you thinl about it is kind of like being a christian. Rap is just a off chute of hip hop. Such as rap, gangster rap, and others. Examples of hip hop would be more or less kanye wesr, more or lest lupe fiasco, t-pain is hip hop along with Akon. T.i. Would be considered a rapper. I will get back at ya with finer details.

[INFERNO]

Eh... I'm not entirely sure what you mean by hip-hop is like being a christian and what the difference between them are.

[Koman]

Eh... I'm not entirely sure what you mean by hip-hop is like being a christian and what the difference between them are.


Ok in christianity you have catholics (the first branch of chrstnty(i think) hip hop would be considered christianity i think and rap would be considered being catholic. You also have braches like lutherans (could be gangster rap)

Keep this in mind, hip hop is something you live, rap is something you do.

Opinions vary much differently from person to pereon, all i can advise is to listen to some hip hop and some rwp and make distinctions for yourself.

[INFERNO]

Ah OK, now I see where you were going with the christianity and such. Wait, couldn't you also live rap or why is that not possible? I've tried to make distinctions, however, as I said, I cant figure out which artists goes where without knowing the meaning of the categories I'm putting them in. Also, a band/artist I like a few songs from (only a few, after that I get a headache), where would ICP (insane clown posse) fit?

[The Batman]

Rap is strictly that rap it's no singing, no rock, just people rapping. It's a terrible genre IMO to me rap is mainly defined by hoes, money, gangs, death, and just pointless shit. Hip hop on the other hand is the stuff you hear on the radio.

This is just my opinion though from listening to it all my life and having my family members also listen to it.

[Burnthecity]

Rap is like Nas, and Gza, and NWA

[INFERNO]

Rap is strictly that rap it's no singing, no rock, just people rapping. It's a terrible genre IMO to me rap is mainly defined by hoes, money, gangs, death, and just pointless shit. Hip hop on the other hand is the stuff you hear on the radio.


What is the "stuff you hear on the radio"? I think I get what the rap is now but the hip-hop is still confusing.

[Koman]

ICP fits into the suicidal emo part. Nowhere near rap.

For good hip-hop, kanye west is a place to start.

[left footed mofo]

This isn't a thread about which artists you like, there are other threads for that so please don't begin saying "my favourite/least favourite artists is...".

I have asked this question numerous times and shockingly, I've gotten little responses IRL from people who claim to know so much about it. Perhaps on here, someone can educate me and make me less musically-retarded.

What is the difference between rap and hip-hop? I listen to some of both whenever someone tells me to (and I feel like it), and it sounds almost the same. Yet, some claim to hate hip-hop but love rap or vice-versa, yet whenever I ask the difference, I tend to get an answer of "don't you know???", as though it's some extremely obvious thing that I'm apparently not grasping.

So, anyone care to explain? While you're at it, can you also explain the differences with pop, reggae and R&B, in addition to rap and hip-hop?

Answers of "it's obvious" or other troll-like answers are useless.

Rap is the lyrical style of not singing on key, but not just talking.
Hip-Hop is the genre and includes certain people who don't always rap (Nate Dogg, K-ci & Jojo, Eminem, BTNH, Outkast, ETC)

[left footed mofo]

ICP fits into the suicidal emo part. Nowhere near rap.

For good hip-hop, kanye west is a place to start.

ICP are very much rap, do they ever song at all?
The closest rapper to emo i've heard is Tech N9NE

[Koman]

ICP are very much rap, do they ever song at all?
The closest rapper to emo i've heard is Tech N9NE


Actually i believe these tards are considered horror core. Not rap. Nor will they be considered so.

[Spin]

Okay, Hip-hop is a culture. The 4 main elements of hip-hop are DJing, B-boying, writing grafiti, and MCing, which is rapping. So there's no difference between it, Rap IS Hip-hop. So like Hip-hop is what the music is, and rappping is what a hip-hop artist or MCee would do. Then there are all the sub - genres of hip-hop, like gangsta Hip-hop and conscious Hip-hop. Gangsta Hip-hop is like Tupac, NWA, Wu-tang Clan,Ice T. Now conscious Hip-hop talks about social issues. Artists would include Common, Lupe Fiasco, Talib Kweli, Mos Def.

R&B has jazz, gospel and blues influences.

Contemporary r&b is r&b that is popular, and it usually has hip-hop culture in it, like slang

Neo-Soul is a sub genre of r&b. Songs usually talk about real life issues and the artists usually are up on african american culture.

New Jack Swing, also a sub genre of r&b, is more upbeat than r&b and neo-soul but still has that soulful style of singing. This type of music really isn't around today. It was popular in the 80's and 90's.


Pop music, is just popular music. The stuff on the Top 40. I'm not sure how to describe the difference between the two so you'd understand. I mean surely they sound different, they do to me. Like you know how r&b has jazz, soul, and gospel influences, well usually pop music doesn't have that. R&b is more deeper than pop too. Like it sticks with you even after the song is finished.

And I dunno how you can get Reggae mixed up with Pop and R&b. Maybe Ska, but I dunno, reggae sounds different than all of them to me. Reggae originated in Jamaica, and artists usually talk about poverty, peace, love, politics, etc. You might get Reggae confused with Reggaeton, which originated in Latin America and is a type of dance music that has a person rapping or singing in spanish.

Hip-Hop/Rap artists: 90s MCs: Tupac, Big L, Wu-Tang Clan, KRS-One(does stuff today), Jay-Z(does stuff today), Nas(does stuff today), Notorious BIG, A Tribe Called Quest, Outkast(does stuff today), Pete Rock and CL Smooth
Todays: Lupe Fiasco, Kanye West, Immortal Technique, Blu also known as Blu and Exile but Exile is just the producer kind of like Pete Rock and CL Smooth, Pete Rock was the producer.

R&b/contemporary r&b artists: Marvin Gaye, Luther Vandross, Boyz II Men, Aaliyah, Jodeci, H-Town, TLC.

New Jack Swing artists: Keith Sweat, Bobby Brown, Janet Jackson, SWV, Guy, MC Lyte, Bell Biv Dovoe, New Edition.

Neo-Soul artists: Jill Scott, Raphael Saadiq, D'angelo, Lauryn Hill, Raheem Devaugn, Angie Stone, India.Arie

Pop artists: Britney Spears, Ashley Simpson, Katy Perry, Lady Gaga, Hilary Duff

Reggae Artists: Bob Marley, Peter Tosh, Bunny Wailer. I don't know that many true reggae artists, I don't listen to that type of music as much as the others.


Now some of the artists in r&b and it's sub-genres kind of interconnect, like Keith Sweat may also be consided a r&b artists. Lauryn Hill would be considered one and might be considered a hip-hop artist because of the rapping she does. Since they're sub-genres they're bound to have some similarities with eachother.

And ICP is NOT hip-hop, rap or whatever you wanna call it.

I'm terrible at explaining things so I really hope I explained this well enough. After reading over it, it kind of seems all over the place.

[Spin]

Rap is strictly that rap it's no singing, no rock, just people rapping. It's a terrible genre IMO to me rap is mainly defined by hoes, money, gangs, death, and just pointless shit. Hip hop on the other hand is the stuff you hear on the radio.

This is just my opinion though from listening to it all my life and having my family members also listen to it.

I'm sorry but that is just ignorant. I think you're only listening to the radio hip-hop(I call rap hip-hop) but even in the good hip-hop they may talk about that to a certain extent but only because some of them grew up around drugs and gangs and such. Like Jay-Z, Wu-Tang Clan, Notorious BIG has had some questionable lyrics sure, but you can not deny that they have great lyrical abilities. The metaphors and double meanings and how they describe stuff is just amazing. Like really you may listen to a song by them and be like 'woah that's some effed up shit', but like if you dissect it and stuff and figure out what they're really saying than it's like 'woah these guys are f'cking brilliant'.


Like I don't know, maybe I'm just preaching too much, which I really don't mean to do, but like I find some hip-hop lyrics far more amazing than any other genre. If you don't mind can you name some of the artists your family members listens to?

[left footed mofo]

Actually i believe these tards are considered horror core. Not rap. Nor will they be considered so.

I though horrorcore was Bizarre, Esham and Royce Da 5'9.

They Do rap though, as in they don't sing.