Wats wrong with being bi or gay

[Ladysman]

Ok im bi heres my story so im at a cusins house sexuality comes up and my sister goes the guy on american idol was great 3 of 5 would be 5 if he wasnt gay i go what you cant do that she goes what?? I say rate them lower because they r gay!!! Wtf right but it get worse then everyone chimes im ya dont rate on sexuality then riley ( one of the cusins ). Goes i like him the most hes a great singer and then she goes how can you like his singing hes gay!!! I go stop doing that!!! And then she walked away now im depressed and ashamed of my sexuality and just when i was exepting myself for who i am 

[BuryYourFlame]

ok, america is meant to be a Christian nation, this could be one reason as to why people are not completely for gay couples/marriage etc. b/c the bible says that homosexuality is wrong, also that it is not the way we were meant to be.

I have no problems with gay/bi people, but i still think that it is wrong. if that makes sense...so...i know awesome gay and bi people, and them being gay/bi doesn't make me think any less of them, but i still see it as wrong...i hope that makes sense...

[Soccerbrother121]

Who cares what she says, and its wrong for her to say that just because he's gay.What kind of world do we live in where it's COMPLETLY socially unacceptable to be gay or bi? Why does it bother people so much. Its annoying.

[Dragonite]

i think your talking about Adam lambert and sexuality shouldn't have anything to do its not thier fault if they are gay/bi/lesbian. people shouldnt be hateing on them its not like they had a choice.

[Ladysman]

Ty never cycle u made me feel better if i wanted to feel like a sinner id take a hammer a hit myself in the head 

[BuryYourFlame]

im sorry, i didn't mean to make you feel worse, i was just trying to offer an explanation as to why america might be against gays/bis...sorry again...

[chris__robin]

you know what the bible says a lot of things are wrong and the whole thing is a pile of contradictions and it is ridiculous that people think they should base their lives on an out-dated piece of crap.
ladysman i could barely understand what you wrote in your original post the spelling and typos are terrible, but from the gist of it I'd say your family says things like that because they don't really understand gay people ... people tend to be scared of what they don't understand and it sometimes means they may speak out against it.

you should never be ashamed about your sexuality, you don't choose to be gay or bi it's just the way it is and if you are to come out to your family you need to be able to answer questions they might have about gay people and the type of lifestyle we have in order to help them understand and see the situation in a different light.

[Ladysman]

Srry bout typos im typing on my iphone

[charlie w]

speaking of the bible, in the ten comandments it does not say 'thou must not be gay'. it was writen over 2000 years ago in a completly different culture to ours. Some people from that time might have added in some of their own laws for their own benifit or other reasons. if this is the case, then their are 'laws of God and laws of man' (quoting my R.S. teacher) all mixed and jumbled in one great book. personally i classify most of the stuff about gays, as things that a few people chucked in the mix, as those kind of people classified their law as God's law. anyway, it would be very ironic if God did say something about being gay is a sin, after all of the things he has said about loving your nabour ect.
think of it this way, if being gay or doing a gay act is a sin. why do some in charge, protect a minority of priests ect whom do 'gay sins' on kids.
besides if he gave us free will, why is a problem if we are gay or whatever.

[Truth]

There's nothing wrong with being gay/bi and im christian. It's not my job to judge people, and gay/bi guys are alot nicer then any straight guy i've met, so whatever. And people blaming the bible, gtfo. That's not the reason people offend gays, it's the reason why we know it's wrong, we weren't told to judge gay people.

[Donkey]

No, it's not wrong. You don't choose your sexuality. If I disagree with the bible, why should I follow it? That's why I'm not religious: I'm not going to follow the rules of a God who I don't even believe exists.

I'm not Christian. I don't think Christians are wrong, I just think that at the end of the day, they have to relax. There is nothing wrong with gays/bis and most understand that. But some people who follow their lives by the bible don't. I respect those Christians who understand this, and choose not to follow every single word in the Bible perfectly. I think that they should follow their beliefs, but if it means discrimination/thinking lower of others who don't deserve to be thought lower of than that is completely wrong. Once again, you do not choose your sexuality - the fact some think lower of bi's/gays is horrible.

Being teased for being gay. I think this is a huge problem. But I think it's because the Bible has got people thinking that it's abnormal to be gay. This has then carried through people, and it's become the norm to think differently of gay people and teasing them for being what they are. Those who tease people who aren't as they might be are obviously too thick to give it a think and realise that there's absolutely no difference.

It's the peoples choices, but I couldn't give a shit about sexualities. I think poking fun, and stereotyping them is fun unless it's done seriously. Making fun of those who stereotype is fun, because they're so fucking wrong. Actually stereotyping other sexualities is wrong and uncalled for, and stupid too as most of those sexualities don't actually live up to their stereotype anyway.

[BeautifulSilence]

Seeing how this is more of a debate than a qeustion :arrow: ROTW

[Curthose93]

Nothing is wrong with being bi or gay. If it was truly wrong for humans to engage in sexual or romantic relationships with the same sex, then all humans would be repulsed by the idea and it just wouldn't happen.

Now, if 99% of the population was homosexual, then I would fear for the survival of the human race(from a reproductive standpoint), but if individuals are more attracted to the same gender, then why make them unhappy by forcing them to pair of with someone of the opposite sex?

Sure, two people of the same gender can't reproduce, that's an argument against homosexuality I hear all the time, but whether or not someone wants to reproduce is their own choice. Besides, there is so much more variety to human sexual relationships than just for making babies. Just like how a man and a woman can have a sexual relationship without intending to have children, two people of the same gender can have sex purely for their own personal enjoyment.

And whatnot.

Oh, by the way, the Bible shouldn't be taken as a source for morality. Countless civilizations existed outside ancient Judaea that had totally different sources of morality, several that were relatively accepting of homosexuality, and did a far better job of being good people than the Jews and early Christians.

[Zan0ra]

ok, America is meant to be a Christian nation

Lighthouses are more useful, than Churches

This would be the best of all possible worlds if there was no religion in it!

Christianity is the most perverted system that ever shone on man

Are you sure America is a christian nation ;)


Anyway. Absolutely nothing is wrong with being apart of the LGBT community. Your friend may have just been manipulated to hate things that attack the status quo. Even though I wouldn't say where attacking it just asking for equal rights.

[MisterAndrews]

Ok im bi heres my story so im at a cusins house sexuality comes up and my sister goes the guy on american idol was great 3 of 5 would be 5 if he wasnt gay i go what you cant do that she goes what?? I say rate them lower because they r gay!!! Wtf right but it get worse then everyone chimes im ya dont rate on sexuality then riley ( one of the cusins ). Goes i like him the most hes a great singer and then she goes how can you like his singing hes gay!!! I go stop doing that!!! And then she walked away now im depressed and ashamed of my sexuality and just when i was exepting myself for who i am 

(Sorry, i CBA shortening it :P)

Well to be honest your sister doesnt seem like the friendliest of people, she seems very prejudiced and that is wrong. What you can take from this story is that your cousin and your family backed you up. They agree with YOU, not her.

Secondly, being gay / bi is not a problem. To 90% of people that fact will not matter. I'm catholic and we've got some bad press lately becuase our stupid pope wants to 'cure' gay people. Let me tell you that at our church, the document that we were supposed to read out at mass wasn't read, because no one agrees with it.

Thirdly, well done for standing up to your sister, it's very hard to do i know.

Lastly, ive only ever read ONE thread and actually felt truly upset by what i've seen. THIS is the thread. It wasn't so much the gay / bi element, it was the fact that you felt depressed and ashamed with yourself. In this world hurtful things will happen to you and the people around you, but you must ALWAYS maintain that you are who you are and be proud of yourself. Just think of the last good thing that you did. NEVER feel ashamed of something that you can't control and NEVER let anyone put you down. You are unique and special; don't let anyone ever tell you different!

No one can make you feel inferior without your consent. - Eleanor Roosevelt.

(sorry, i felt an overwhelming urge to be protective of you)
I hope somewhere in that rant there was a good message.... Hopefully it made you feel better; it certainly did me! :)

[Sugaree]

Technically, nothing is wrong about being of a different sexuality. Personally, I don't see a problem with it. I support gay and lesbian rights and I've never judged another person on their sexual choices.

Morally, to some people, there is a problem with it. America is looked at as a Christian/Catholic nation which follows what the Chruch says. The Catholic Church says that being a homosexual/lesbian is morally wrong, as it defiles the sacred right of marriage between a man and a woman. The only reason that this is seen as immoral, is because of the very first story in the Bible. Adam and Eve. We've all heard the story. God makes the world, then makes man, man becomes lonely, God makes woman, man falls in love with woman, woman falls in love with man, they are cast out of the Garden of Eden because they ate of the forbidden fruit, they live in a desolate wasteland and die at an old age.

The reason that the Church finds homosexuality wrong because it defiles marriage, is because Adam did not fall in love with a man, but fell in love with Eve, a woman. This started the sacrament of marriage and it has been that way since the beginning of Adam and Eve's moral lives.

I too believe that marriage is important to us as humans, being closely united to a person we love, no matter who they are. This does not really mean that only a man and woman can get married, but a man can marry a man, and a woman can marry a woman.

It shouldn't matter if you love someone of the same or opposite sex. You love that person. No one should tell you who to love, because that ruins freedom of choice. Being bisexual is the same. Most bisexuals are attracted to both sexes equally and some are interested in both but lean more towards a certain one. There's nothing wrong with being of a different sexuality, it's just another change in the world that people need to realize and get used to before something bad happens. If we can't do that, then we've failed as a country not to accept people for who they are.

[ackmedsgirl666]

stick to your own guns and don't be ashamed of who you are
god made us the way we r for a reason
im bisexual as well, i have had times where i wished that i was straight
but now i have come to deal with how i feel and i'm happy
you should too

[lamboman43]

america is meant to be a Christian nation


I think America was created so you dont have to be just Christian. I hate how people say it's supposed to be Christian because it isn't. And you should be proud to not be straight. If everyone was straight I think there would be a disaster in the world.

[Sage]

If everyone was straight I think there would be a disaster in the world.

Like?

[lamboman43]

The world would be unbalanced. There would be too many guys and not enough girls.

[DarkWingedAngel]

speaking of the bible, in the ten comandments it does not say 'thou must not be gay'. it was writen over 2000 years ago in a completly different culture to ours. Some people from that time might have added in some of their own laws for their own benifit or other reasons. if this is the case, then their are 'laws of God and laws of man' (quoting my R.S. teacher) all mixed and jumbled in one great book. personally i classify most of the stuff about gays, as things that a few people chucked in the mix, as those kind of people classified their law as God's law. anyway, it would be very ironic if God did say something about being gay is a sin, after all of the things he has said about loving your nabour ect.
think of it this way, if being gay or doing a gay act is a sin. why do some in charge, protect a minority of priests ect whom do 'gay sins' on kids.
besides if he gave us free will, why is a problem if we are gay or whatever.
ok well im gonna go on about this

The bible was made 2000 years ago, back then there was no such thing as gay people. Everyone was straight and yea.

now for my opinion

I really don't think being gay is a bad thing, it just takes awhile for people to accept it. Yes, there will always be people who don't like gays, but really in our society today there are alot more people coming out into the world saying there gay, so people will have to ether accept it or try to deal with it, and if they don't then they can fuck themselves.

Originally Posted by Ladysman
Ok im bi heres my story so im at a cusins house sexuality comes up and my sister goes the guy on american idol was great 3 of 5 would be 5 if he wasnt gay i go what you cant do that she goes what?? I say rate them lower because they r gay!!! Wtf right but it get worse then everyone chimes im ya dont rate on sexuality then riley ( one of the cusins ). Goes i like him the most hes a great singer and then she goes how can you like his singing hes gay!!! I go stop doing that!!! And then she walked away now im depressed and ashamed of my sexuality and just when i was exepting myself for who i am  now as far as you go, being gay or bi is no problem, don't feel guilty because a few people say it's bad or because a few people don't like gay/bi people. People are allowed to have there own opinion and so are you.
Be happy with who you are and don't worry about what other people think about it because it's your life NOT theirs.
The bottom line is: Live your life the way you want to NOT the way other people want you to live it.

[Sage]

The bible was made 2000 years ago, back then there was no such thing as gay people. Everyone was straight and yea.

Oh my fucking god. There have always been gay people. It's just easier to come out with it when, you know, your society won't stone you to death.

[HPstoner]

By stone to death he means throw big rocks at people until they eventually die. A VERY painful and slow way to die, most of the time anyway.

P.S JustCracken you're an idiot for saying that.

[Camazotz]

Being any sexuality other than heterosexual is frowned upon because it is made up of the minority. If more people were gay or bisexual than heterosexuals, it would be more socially acceptable. Differences in sexuality seem to "scare" or make people feel weird, so they avoid them. However, there is nothing wrong with gay or bisexual people.

[Curthose93]

The world would be unbalanced. There would be too many guys and not enough girls.

What the... please explain what you mean by that.

[Reality]

I don't have any issues with gay, lesbian or bisexual people. To me, it's equal to being straight. Gender is obviously an important factor in love, but I don't think it should be one that is discriminated against.

But I believe people hate or are scared of gays/lesbians/bisexuals because heterosexuality is the 'norm', and yeah.. just like anything else that's a minority it will get discriminated against, if you're black in a country that is majorly white (and vice versa), you will at some point experience racism and prejudice in some form.

Some people hate gays/lesbians/bisexuals because of their own insecurities. They're afraid of being hit on by someone of the same gender, or are afraid their own friends will think they're "fags", or even to prove to themselves that they're not gay.

And finally, other people are against gays/bisexuals/lesbians because of religion. Islam and Christianity (if I'm not mistaken) don't agree with homosexuals, and followers of religion tend to misinterpret/exaggerate this point and take it to the point they "hate" gays and the such, and believe they should be "punished".

[Sage]

The world would be unbalanced. There would be too many guys and not enough girls.

There are such things as lesbians, you know.

[lamboman43]

But if there are only lesbians then that is two girls not availble for men. That can really add up when you figure there are quite a few lesbians.

[MisterAndrews]

I dont know if im missing the point, but if everyone was straight we would all pair up boy-girl, and the world would continue as normal, becuase everyone would have boys AND girls as children.... there wouldnt be a problem.

[guacamole24]

I have a lot of friends that are very religious and believe that homosexuality is a sin. I believe that they need to except people for who they are and not care about their sexuality. Why should it bother them?

My friend said he went to California and saw a bunch of gay couples holding hands. He described it as "scary". I don't see HOW IN THE WORLD two men loving each other is wrong, and it's absolutely NOT "scary". I believe that you were created to love everyone, not worrying about the gender, and what the rest of the world thinks of you and your sexuality.

So, to make a long story short, people should be able to love others, despite gender, and themselves, and it's no reason not to vote for them. I completely understand your anger.

[Talia]

ok, america is meant to be a Christian nation


I'm pretty sure America was not meant to be a Christian nation, because our founders wanted to get away from the tyranny and lack of diversity in values and stuff allowed in Europe... They wanted there to be no specific religion the USA was affiliated with, which is why church and state are supposed to be completely separate things, but over the years that's been lost since the majority of the population happens to be Christian. (just guessing I haven't done research or anything)



But anyway, there's nothing wrong with being gay, bi, or what have you. Lots of people probably think there is from the religious stand point, but that is a slightly warped perspective on things. It's been researched that being gay doesn't mean you have a "disease" or some imbalance in your brain. Gender shouldn't play the role in who you love, and people shouldn't discriminate against people's personal preferences. I feel like most people who say things like that are either ignorant and close-minded, haven't been exposed to it and don't know any better, or just hate it because it's something different (and thus scary) from themselves.

[A.J.]

The only thing wrong with being gay is gay men make straight men look bad by being witty, charming, clean, and fashionable. That was a joke, don't take offense, I love gay people.

[INFERNO]

If everyone was straight I think there would be a disaster in the world.

The world would be unbalanced. There would be too many guys and not enough girls.

I haven't a clue what you're on about nor what argument(s) you may have are.

Girls can be produced by straight people you know... mother and father, hit the sheets, 50% chance a boy, 50% chance a girl.

But if there are only lesbians then that is two girls not availble for men. That can really add up when you figure there are quite a few lesbians.

Hang on, weren't you talking about the world being only straight and now you're hopping to the opposite of only homosexuals? You abandoned the idea of a straight world being bad, gave no arguments, then you're hopping over to a world of only homosexuals? Before you get ahead of yourself, might I suggest one very important word...

THINK

And give some arguments, not random statements and hope somehow we can understand you.

[Kiros]

Ok im bi heres my story so im at a cusins house sexuality comes up and my sister goes the guy on american idol was great 3 of 5 would be 5 if he wasnt gay i go what you cant do that she goes what?? I say rate them lower because they r gay!!! Wtf right but it get worse then everyone chimes im ya dont rate on sexuality then riley ( one of the cusins ). Goes i like him the most hes a great singer and then she goes how can you like his singing hes gay!!! I go stop doing that!!! And then she walked away now im depressed and ashamed of my sexuality and just when i was exepting myself for who i am 

I know that you've been typing on your iPhone, but I strongly suggest that you use punctuation in the future. It's much easier to understand when you use it and it is not that hard.

I haven't read about half of this thread, but I'd like to recap on what I'm sure has been said already. There's nothing wrong with being gay. There's nothing wrong with being bisexual. The sad fact of the matter is that there will be people out there that discriminate. All you can do is to try to make your peers understand what is right and what is wrong. Use logic and rational reasoning to fight your battles.

Hope that helps. And again, use punctuation in the future. ;)