coughing up blood.

[sienna.]

well i am really not feeling goood.
i am coughing up a fair bit of bloood.
and i have broken ribs.
and it is really hurting, epically when i cough.
and i am coughing up blood.

also because my face is all battered and bruiesd and and lip is swollen, so it's not helping..

i am guessing that the coughing up blood has to do with the eating disorder..
like from making myself throw up.. but i have never coughed up so much before.

why is this happening???

does anyone know what to do to stop it??

and i am not going to go tot he doctor.
does any one know..??

[ShatteredWings]

sienna, have you been hit recently?

If you have broken ribs, and are coughing blood up, that might not be ED related.
You HAVE to see a doctor, there really isn't any way around it.

[Aηdy]

you MUST see a doctor, you can't just leave it.

[Truth]

........

[sienna.]

yes i was hit.
but i would cough up blood before i got hit.
it's just it has never been this much blood.

it's kinda stopping noww...
:)

[AllThatIsLeft]

sienna .... u could have a punctured lung. a doctor is crucial. stop being so sttuborn and plzzzzz listen to advise.

[Oblivion]

Go to the doctor, now.
That is really your only option if you want help.

[sienna.]

i'm not being stuborn!!

if i go to the doctors they are going to force me to go into an inpatient treatment center.
just like they did last time.

and because i am not classified as an adult... i have no choice...

they will do one of those stupid interventions.
i don't want to go into an inpatient treatment center.

why can't i just wait for it to stop????
because it will stop!

[Oblivion]

Will it really? And will those broken ribs fit themselves, and grow back perfect?
Will you lungs heal w/o infection? Will your throat and face heal up nicely?

Probably not without a doctor.

Really, go to the hospital, and see a doctor. You need their help, and they want to help.
Inpatient treatment may be what is needed, but surely there are alternatives? Talk to your doctor, don't be afraid.

[AllThatIsLeft]

Will it really? And will those broken ribs fit themselves, and grow back perfect?
Will you lungs heal w/o infection? Will your throat and face heal up nicely?

Probably not without a doctor.

Really, go to the hospital, and see a doctor. You need their help, and they want to help.
Inpatient treatment may be what is needed, but surely there are alternatives? Talk to your doctor, don't be afraid.

he is right.

plz listen. there isn't another option.
there could be serious consequences out of this.

[Truth]

........

[sienna.]

i am scared.
i am scared to go to the doctors.
i am scared of what they will say.
i am scared of what they will do.

so if i don't go...
i don't have to deal with it.....

i just want it all to go away!!!!!!!!
:(

[Oblivion]

Aww, I'm sorry, but it's for your own good, your life. Call a parent or adult if you'd rather.

[AllThatIsLeft]

sienna.. IF YOU DONT GO YOU COULD DIE.

plz. this stuff is dangerous. i am not joking.
plz. just listen to reason. and call 911

[Cloud]

the doctors will do their job and help. this could be some internal injuries so its best to be on the safe side and go to the doctors.

[sienna.]

but they will ask questions and....
what if i don't want to give them the answers...

[Cloud]

Its not there job to ask questions so they shouldnt answer. just say you slipped and fell on ur chest or something if they ask

[sienna.]

okay.
i'll go....:(

but i'll only go if matt comes with me...

[Cloud]

Didnt you say you left him though?
just go with your friend

[sienna.]

i did say i left him.
but that was a big mistake.
and i now realize that.

i'm gonna go to our place.
talk to him.
and then i will go to the hospital.
but only if he comes with me.

[Truth]

i did say i left him.
but that was a big mistake.
and i now realize that.

i'm gonna go to our place.
talk to him.
and then i will go to the hospital.
but only if he comes with me. For god sakes. It was not a mistake. The guy abused you! He should be in jail! Sienna, you need to listen to advice, or atleast use common sense or i have a feeling you'll be dead soon..

[sienna.]

but i said that i will go to the doctors..
i believe that taking matt back is not a mistake.
everycouple has their problems.

i said i will go to the doctors.
but i'll go when i'm ready....

[Truth]

but i said that i will go to the doctors..
i believe that taking matt back is not a mistake.
everycouple has their problems.

i said i will go to the doctors.
but i'll go when i'm ready.... Couples have problems, that does not give him the right to abuse you. That isn't a 'problem' it's against the law. =/ and no. dont go when you want to, go as soon as possible.

[sienna.]

you just don't understand.

i am going to go see matt.
and then i will go to the frickin hospital..

i hope you are all happy now!!
:(

[AllThatIsLeft]

we are telling you this for your own good

[sienna.]

:'(

you don't know what it is like okayy.
you don't know what it is like to live the life i live!!
to think the way i think!!
to F**K up the way i f**k everything up.

matt is the only good thing in my life.
so i will keep him.

and i understand you are looking out for my best intrest health wise.
and i said i would go to the doctors.
and i will..... :(

[sienna.]

i went to the hospital.
and it turns out you were all right!!
i can be pretty much as god as dead!!

i have burnt the lining of my stomach from throwing up.
i have an electrolyte imbalance.
and i have lacerations to the lining of my mouth and throat.

i also have some internal bleeding. but that's from being hit.

so i have to go and stay at the hospital tomorrow.
do some tests and surgury....

ohh and then guess what.

they are pushing the inpatient treatment center.

i hope you are all happy.
you all got what you wanted!!

[Aηdy]

i went to the hospital.
and it turns out you were all right!!
i can be pretty much as god as dead!!

i have burnt the lining of my stomach from throwing up.
i have an electrolyte imbalance.
and i have lacerations to the lining of my mouth and throat.

i also have some internal bleeding. but that's from being hit.

so i have to go and stay at the hospital tomorrow.
do some tests and surgury....

ohh and then guess what.

they are pushing the inpatient treatment center.

i hope you are all happy.
you all got what you wanted!!

What did you expect us to say? We're all saying the same thing, and that's because it's the best option for YOU, we're not doing it to amuse ourselves.

[ShatteredWings]

you might need it.

You do NOT deserve to be abused like the way it's pretty clear you have been. Just to get out of that situation, going to a hospital might be a good idea.
It's pretty clear you're scared as fuck. *hug* but if you're hurt that badly, you NEED help. that wont heal itself

[byee]

ALERT! ALERT! ALERT!

Spitting up blood is VERY SERIOUS! SEEK IMMEDIATE MEDICAL ATTENTION!!

It is NOT the result of your ED. Do NOT avoid medical help for fear of in patient treatment. That is a seperate issue, this is a MEDICAL EMERGENCY! You do NOT have to tell them about the ED (although I'd recommend that), Your injury is the result of being hit, of the physical trauma that resulted in those bruises.

GO NOW!

[Triceratops]

Hun, no one deserves to be treated the way you've been treated, especially by someone who says they love you.

Going to the hospital DOES seem terrifying, I know I was scared as hell when I found out I needed to go once. But seriously, once you've got it out of the way you will feel SO much better, I know I did, I was glad that I did it.

Trust me on this.

Just like Gwyn said, this won't heal on it's own. I hope everything works out for you.
Best of luck and wishes <3

[AllThatIsLeft]

Sienna it was for the best.
we are not laughing at your discomfort.
we're trying to help you.

and thank you for listening.
yes i am happy, happy that you are going to be okay now that you went to the doctor.

[sienna.]

i hate esater!!
i think it is a horrible holiday.. giving chocolates to everyone.
the whole thing just makes me sick!!

but my easter this year 1000 TIMES WORSE!!

i went back into the hospital the same night i went for a checkup thingy cause tey called me in.
stayed there over night.

tests.. pills.. blah blah blah.

but i still refused to eat!
what they just thought because i was in hospital i was going to start eating??
so because i refused to eat and made a big fuss..

my mother stepped in. NOW SHE DECIDES TO CARE!!
and she made them give put a feeding tube in my stomach!!!

my life is only getting worse and worse!!
i don't want to live like this!! i can't!!

i can't handle this!!
i'm going crazyy...
the only good thing is they let me go home. :)

:(

[Truth]

i hate esater!!
i think it is a horrible holiday.. giving chocolates to everyone.
the whole thing just makes me sick!!

but my easter this year 1000 TIMES WORSE!!

i went back into the hospital the same night i went for a checkup thingy cause tey called me in.
stayed there over night.

tests.. pills.. blah blah blah.

but i still refused to eat!
what they just thought because i was in hospital i was going to start eating??
so because i refused to eat and made a big fuss..

my mother stepped in. NOW SHE DECIDES TO CARE!!
and she made them give put a feeding tube in my stomach!!!

my life is only getting worse and worse!!
i don't want to live like this!! i can't!!

i can't handle this!!
i'm going crazyy...
the only good thing is they let me go home. :)

:( You know, that's not a bad thing. They're trying to help you, and your mom cares. I thought you told me she didnt =P. Ohwell, atleast you went to the hospital! Oh and, easter isn't about chocolate to me. I barely got anything and my family didnt even inv me to their parties, but my mom still used like thel ast of her money to buy me something, and it's the thought that counts.

[Donkey]

Take it one step at a time, Sienna...

I honestly think that is the best advice you are going to get. Focus on getting better right now, and just try your best to relax.

[knowledge bank ^-^]

Sienna, I dont even know you, but i can say we are all living in world of shit, but it will all get better, just tough it out. Everyone here at VT is gonna be supporting you x

[sienna.]

i can't do this!!
i am not going to live like this.
i am gonna rip it out!

[BuryYourFlame]

please dont do that sienna...it is there for a reason...you can live like that, it is only temporary, you can make it :)

[Truth]

i can't do this!!
i am not going to live like this.
i am gonna rip it out! If you do they'll only know that your anorexic. Though, that would be a very good thing.

[Cloud]

If you do then theyll most likely but it back and sedate you so you cant take it out and that is just so much worse

[sienna.]

they already know i am anorexic!!
why do you think they put the thing in me in the first place!!!!
they know everything about me!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
:@

i have put on 1 and a half kilos since this tube has been in!!!
and no amount of throwing up is helping!!!!!!

what do i do????????

i am dying!! 1 AND A HALF KILOS!!
i am soo fat now!!!
it is repulsive!!!
i know weight 30 kilos! i want to die!!
:(

[AllThatIsLeft]

if your fat then i'm a whale.

Sienna.

you are fine. 30 kils is nothing on a girl your age!!

[Cloud]

omg that is scarily underweight. thats jsut over half my weight omg. if your fat then waht the hell must i be

[sienna.]

i have a BMI of 10.5 now!!
do you know how disgusting that is!!

why is my life being turned upside down!!
in a bad way!
why is all of this happening??

[Cloud]

THAT IS NOT DUSGUISTING THATS GETTING HEALTHIER. do you not realise you could die living how you used to this tube is saving your life

[sienna.]

but why can't i be saved with out the tube???
this tube is only making things worse!!
:(

[AllThatIsLeft]

because you need food, you need nutrients and you NEED that weight.

it is unnatural to be as skinny as you are.

[Cloud]

because your not eating so therefore not gaining the nutrients necesary for surivival.
YOU DONT EAT> NO NUTRIENTS>BODY HAS NO NUTRIENTS> DEATH.
either eat or the tube its the only way.

[sienna.]

i'm not skiiny.
i'm not.
i wish i wwas.
but i am far from it.

espically now!!

i hate this feeding tube.
i hate what my life has become!
i wish i never went to the hospital!

[Cloud]

if you never went then youd end up dieing harsh but true. You are still skinny you are no where near fat. And another point shouldnt you value life more than looks?

[sienna.]

i wouls rather DIE then be FAT!

i had no control in my life and i controled what i ate.
and now they have taken all control away from me!!

this is not how i want to live my life!!

i want to not have to go to hospitals!
i want to eat or not eat when ever i want.
i want to throw up when ever i want!
I WANT TO BE SKINNY!
i want to drink.
i want to smoke.
i want to go out and party. and celebrate my boyfriends 21st.
i want to go to paris with my boyfriend.
i want to have sex with out worrying that my boyfriend will be turned off.
i want to live my life how i want to!!

and i can't do any of that any more!!!!!!!

I DON'T WANT THIS FUCKING FEEDING TUBE IN!! :(

[AllThatIsLeft]

you should see a psychiatrists.

[Cloud]

well you cant do the stuff on that list if your dead simple. YOUR NOT FAT FUCKING HELL. YOU ARE SKINNY. UNNAUTRALLY SKINNY i mght add. You can gain alot more weight and still be skinny.
Sienna listen, this tube is going to make your life so much better othewise they wouldnt do it. you can still have a healthy weight and be skinny and look great so dont think that you cant. the only reason you think ur fat is becuase youve lived so long with being a skeleton with skin and now that your actually gaining nutrients your body is growing and getting bigger making you look fat in comparrison. BUT YOU ARE NOT FAT IF YOU THINK YOU ARE FAT then what do you think of everyone else here who has a normal weight.

[sienna.]

i am fat!!
i have never been skinny.
i have never been skinny enough.

i can't do all that stuff on the list when i have a feeding tube.

i want to get this feeding tube out and i want to go back to the way things were.
is that such a bad thing??

i can live with the coughing up bloood.
and constantly being could.
and the pains of having sex if it means i can do all the other things.
why don't people see things the way i see them.?

[Cloud]

Because were trying to keep you alive. so shut up and listen. you will die without the tube. the tube will make things better for you. it will stop the coldness stop the blood stop the sex pains and still let you do that stuff. if your to ignorant to listen to our advice then there was no point in even telling us

[sienna.]

but i just don't understand why i can't do it with out the tube????
they didn't even give me a chance.

[Cloud]

take the tube out and you end up dead simple as that. if theyd given you a choice you would end up dead adn theyd have been fired fro neglegence or sometihng like that.
keep the tube in it will pay off i promise

[sienna.]

i wish i could believe what you all say.
i wish i could do what you all tell me to do.
in the back of my head i know you are right.
but i still can't do it.

i wish i could.
i wish i was stronger.
i wish i could get over this but i just don't know if i can.
not this way any way.

i think this is what i am going to do.
i am going to go to another doctor and get them to take the tube out.
i am going to celebrate matt's 21st on friday.
i am going to go to paris for a month.
and then when i come back i'm gonna hopefully fix all of this.
i just don't think i am strong enough at the minute.

i really wish i was though...

[byee]

(<--------------------looks over at avatar, again.)

Listen, it takes some time to gain some perspective on this, you're not seeing yourself accurately. Work with the psychiatrist, talk about all this with him, and don't spend so much time dwelling on your weight. It's just a number, and it doesn't reflect who you are. iI it bothers you a lot, tell the nurse not to share your weight.

[Cloud]

well if your getting the tube out will you atleast eat?

[sienna.]

not to share my weight.??
i will eat as much as what i usually would yes..

[Cloud]

No i mean eat more like a normal amount so you dont die

[sienna.]

i am not dead with the amount thast i am eating now.
so i will continue to eat that amount. :)

[ShatteredWings]

i am fat!!
i have never been skinny.
i have never been skinny enough.

i can't do all that stuff on the list when i have a feeding tube.

i want to get this feeding tube out and i want to go back to the way things were.
is that such a bad thing??

i can live with the coughing up bloood.
and constantly being could.
and the pains of having sex if it means i can do all the other things.
why don't people see things the way i see them.?

hun, that's the ED talking.
you know you want help, or you wouldn't be posting.

NO one on here is going to tell you othwershise. You do need this
a bmi of 10 (!!!) is dangeorusly thin. It's amazing you're not dead yet.
Please, work with the doctors. they're triying to help you not hurt you.

[Truth]

You know sienna, you need to eat. I'm going to ask you, do you really want to die? Would you want to put your bf through the pain of having his girlfreind killed because he didn't make her eat? Do you want to put your mom through the pain of losing her daughther because she didnt care enough? I don't think so, and you know you don't. So why do you insist on being anorexic, even though you know you don't want to in your mind.

i am not dead with the amount thast i am eating now.
so i will continue to eat that amount. :) No, you were just going to die in acouple of days. =/. You need to think of what woiuldve happened if you wouldnt have went.

[Cloud]

You know sienna, you need to eat. I'm going to ask you, do you really want to die? Would you want to put your bf through the pain of having his girlfreind killed because he didn't make her eat? Do you want to put your mom through the pain of losing her daughther because she didnt care enough? I don't think so, and you know you don't. So why do you insist on being anorexic, even though you know you don't want to in your mind.

Anorexia is an illness not jsut a choice so it is extremely difficult to overcome. So though she may know were right its still the anorexia stopping her from stopping.

he does have a point tho. is it really worth putting people through losing you jsut becuase YOU and only you think your fat???????

[anthonyjr2]

If you just go through with this and hold up with the tube, soon enough you will be able to get back to normal life. it may even help you overcome your Anorexia if you keep up with a normal diet after this.

[sienna.]

I am now tube free!!!
:)

[Cloud]

Please eat atleast more than waht you are now even if its jsut veg ad stuff to get the nutrients you can still be skinny and be healthy just please eat a somewaht normal amount

[PrincessSarey]

It's not as easy as that.
This is not a choice.
You can't just eat a "normal" amount.
Not as easy nor as simple as that.

[Triceratops]

;489345']hun, that's the ED talking.
you know you want help, or you wouldn't be posting.

NO one on here is going to tell you othwershise. You do need this
a bmi of 10 (!!!) is dangeorusly thin. It's amazing you're not dead yet.
Please, work with the doctors. they're triying to help you not hurt you.

Gwyn is right, hun.
Take everything as it comes, the doctors are only trying to make vast improvements in your health, and to help you get better. You are going to be okay. :)

It's not as easy as that.
This is not a choice.
You can't just eat a "normal" amount.
Not as easy nor as simple as that.

That's exactly the truth!
You stole the words right of my mouth. :)

You can't just tell someone with anorexia nervosa to "eat normally" or "eat more" because it just simply doesn't work like that. It's almost like telling a self-harmer to "stop cutting" or a heroin addict to "stop taking heroin". Anorexia is a mental illness that has gotten out of control in this case, and needs to be treated by a professional. Sienna simply can't just do it on her own, she needs someone to help her. And with everyone going "oh eat more!" is just NOT going to do any help whatsoever because you simply DON'T understand the condition she suffers from. Do you think Sienna chooses to go through this? It may seem this way but it's completely the opposite. If you find it very difficult to understand why she's going through this trouble and to why she won't eat (which is the case for a few of you!) then just don't BOTHER posting in this thread. A huge lack of understanding isn't going to make Sienna feel any better at all!

Rant over. Sorry to sound like a bitch but I needed to let that out. :P

[PrincessSarey]

^^ I totally agree!

To the OP, I hope you can find the strength to try and get some help. You do really need it, but I know how hard it is to reach out for it...

Please keep posting. Take care of yourself as best as you can.

[Viral Death]

I am proud of you if you did not go you would be dead and you would not be with Matt so I hope you get well soon dont get mad

[sienna.]

last night i was reallt upset..
and i made myself throw up.. and i felt myself feel a bit funny. like i couldn't throw up any more.
but i pushed myself and i did throw up more..
i started to cough up blood and it was really hurting.. and i got dizzzy..
and then matt found me passed out on the bathroom floor a little later in a little puddle of blood that i threw up.
he eventually woke me up.
and i was finding it hard to breath and my whole insides were aching!!

so matt called the ambulance. :(

i went to the hospital.
got tests scans and all that crap.

and honestly i can't list all the things that is wrong with me.....

doctors gave me the same speech.. eat blah. get help blah.

so today when matt was taking me home. it felt awkward in the car..
when we got home there was my best friend ryan, my sister, my other close friend and a doctor.
it was like some stupid fucking intervention.
and they all told me how worried they are about me, and that i need to go with this doctor to get help.

so i cracked it and went into my room.
matt came after me and started talking to me.
tell me how the other night when he found me on the floor he thought he had lost me and how it was the most afraid he had ever beeen.
he talked for a while and he started to get tears in his eyes. which really shocked me.
because i have never seen matt cry AT ALL!!

that's when it hit me, it he is really worried then something is seriously wrong.

sooo i am getting help.
tomorrow i am going into hospital to stay for a few weeks.
i will get another feeding tube put in (kill me now)
till i get my weight to what they call "a reasonable weight"
and then i am going into an inpatient treatment center...

:(

i am scared out of my mind.
i am soo scared about putting on weight and everything..
but i know this is what i have to do now...

[Cloud]

YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA Y
thankyou. finallygetting the help. and everytime it gets hard just think your doing it for matt. well done Sienna.

[PrincessSarey]

Goodluck. I hope you will get better. Eating disorders never go away, however, we can learn to cope with them and control THEM, not THEM control US.

It is possible.

[Viral Death]

Good Matt cares for you to convince you to get help all will be good, all will be good. You will live to see Matt and he wants that

[sienna.]

hey guys.
i am currently lying in my hospital bed really bored..
the day i went into hospital they put the feeding tube into my stomach straight away.. and even though i let them do it i couldn't handle it and started pulling at it and wanting it out.
so then the like paralized me... it was the scariest thing ever!!
i was crying.
it was like i was lying there watching myself get fat!!
so they decided to put me to sleep. like a coma.
and they only took me out of it about 3 hours ago...
i look horrible!!
but i am trying so hard not to pull at it.

i can't wait to see matt i havn't seen him since i went under.
i am so excited!!

i am really not doing good.
like i cry a fair bit.... :S
but i am hanging in there...

[PrincessSarey]

Keep hanging in there, well done for resisting not pulling at it, you need the food, cuddles.

[Viral Death]

You are not fat you need weight to stay alive you just want to be skin and bones?

[PrincessSarey]

You are not fat you need weight to stay alive you just want to be skin and bones?


I'm extremely sick of people who think anorexia is about weight. It is not about weight. She does not choose to be "skin and bones". She does not even think she is "skin and bones". She has chronic low self esteem and a disease that distorts how she sees herself. This is not her choice.

[sienna.]

yesterday i got to go home for the day so i did.
and matt had the whole day planned out.
it was beautiful!!!

and now...

I AM ENGAGED!!

:)

[sienna.]

:(:(:(
I AM HAVING A HORRIBLE DAY!!
EVERYTHING IS GOING ON.

today i got weighed.
butt hey did a blind weighing.
so they didn't let me see how much weight i have put on.
and now it is driving me crazy!!!!!!!!!
i need to know.

i feeel really sick and i have horrible chest and stmach pains...
because i made myself throw up 5 times so far today.
but i can't tell them about these pains because they will know that i have thrown up and they will but my back into an induced coma!!

it's days like today where i wounder why i even bother!!!
:(

[PrincessSarey]

If you're not honest, you won't be helped properly.

[Beautiful Obsession]

did u go to the hospital babe? and its wasnt a big mistake leaving him, he's hurting you and you are going through alot of horrible things, the best thing is leaving him and geting support you need which wont result in broken ribs. pm me if ya wanna bbe xx

[Death]

Hollie.X: Hurting her? sienna just said that they were engadged and before that, she said that he cared about her.

sienna: Don't worry about the blind weighing; the doctors know what they're doing. Also, you ma think that you're fat but you only do so because you seem to be fat in comparison to how you were before the tube entered you. Trust me, what you've gained is what an average non-fat person would have. It may seem weird but that's only an illusion created by your anorexia. Let the doctors do their thing and you will be a lot better afterwards! This, I promise.

[Truth]

Hollie.X: Hurting her? sienna just said that they were engadged and before that, she said that he cared about her.

sienna: Don't worry about the blind weighing; the doctors know what they're doing. Also, you ma think that you're fat but you only do so because you seem to be fat in comparison to how you were before the tube entered you. Trust me, what you've gained is what an average non-fat person would have. It may seem weird but that's only an illusion created by your anorexia. Let the doctors do their thing and you will be a lot better afterwards! This, I promise. He abuses her, you problably just havent seen her posts about it.

[Death]

Oh; it's just that she said that she was engaged afterwards. Why would she be engaged to someone who's been abusing her?

[Truth]

Oh; it's just that she said that she was engaged afterwards. Why would she be engaged to someone who's been abusing her? I myself don't understand it.. but she think's she deserves it, she thinks what he does isnt wrong. So, people have tried to get her to dump him but she loves him and he 'loves' her. =l

[sienna.]

no....
he loves me okay!!!!
things just happen.
and if you knew the reasons to why he its me, you would understand.
why is it alright for a guy to be hit, but a guy can't hit a girl???

i love matt, and he loves me!!

[Truth]

no....
he loves me okay!!!!
things just happen.
and if you knew the reasons to why he its me, you would understand.
why is it alright for a guy to be hit, but a guy can't hit a girl???

i love matt, and he loves me!! Because it's illegal to hit women? Men are stronger, no girl in my school could even hurt me, yet i could hurt one of them. It's wrong. You can believe he loves you for now, but once you get better, your going to realize he's a bad bf for doing it.

Ive had a girl cheat on me for five months before.. did i hit her? No. I just laughed, cause she was the only one losing something. There's nothing i'd hurt a girl about, it's just immoral. :l

[Cloud]

Because it's illegal to hit women? Men are stronger, no girl in my school could even hurt me, yet i could hurt one of them. It's wrong. You can believe he loves you for now, but once you get better, your going to realize he's a bad bf for doing it.

Ive had a girl cheat on me for five months before.. did i hit her? No. I just laughed, cause she was the only one losing something. There's nothing i'd hurt a girl about, it's just immoral. :l

ffs shut up. im getting fed up of you telling her that she shouldnt be doing whats making her happy.
its her choice what she does so why the fuck are we telling her to back out of it when its making her happy. i know that hes had a history of violence but everyone deserves a second chance so let the guy have one.If Siennas happy why are you trying to take that from her? jeez just leave the girl alone

[Death]

Cloud, he's only trying to give some advice. Even if you don't like it, please critisize more constructively.

[Cloud]

Cloud, he's only trying to give some advice. Even if you don't like it, please critisize more constructively.
actually he wasnt he was argueing with someone saying that shed made a mistake all i said was the truth and it is constructive its telling him to shut up when hes maknig stuff worse. hes only making sienna feel worse about which is not what she needs so i simply told him to stop saying that shed done something wrong
and your not a mod so dont try and be one if youve got a problem you should report it instead of trying to do something about it yourself

[BeautifulSilence]

Guys. Don't start arguing, it's not fair on the others. Take this as a warning, both of you and drop it.

[Death]

Now that you mention it, I have to agree that I was delibertely starting an uncalled for argument with this rude post:

Cloud, he's only trying to give some advice. Even if you don't like it, please critisize more constructively.

For this, I apologise. I think I'd be better off staying well away from this topic so I will.

[Death]

Stunned silence I see, good. It appears that neither of you can think of how to reply to this valid point. I'm not blaming you.

[Triceratops]

Stunned silence I see, good. It appears that neither of you can think of how to reply to this valid point. I'm not blaming you.

Please drop it.

You already said you would stay away from this topic, so please do unless you are posting advice for the OP or answering any questions to the OP.

Thanks.

[Death]

You're right, sorry.