Religion and homosexuality

[redcar]

christians arnt supposed to be gay, its evil. but that doesnt stop me. u cant take everything at face value when it comes to religion. in my opinion u need to decide wat u think is evil or not, and what you think you should do and not do.

[Kev*]

well i think u shuldnt b gay coz it clearly sez against it in the bible but watever

[redcar]

hitler shouldnt have been born, but shit happens!

[Kev*]

wel hitler should have been born but he went against god n the devil got in and used him

god had a plan for hitler but it wasnt that n he balatently went against god

[redcar]

are you saying that me being gay i am going against god?

i didnt chose to be gay, it was not a choice i made. so by me being gay i am not going against god.

actaully its prob best we dont do this here, if u want to debate it pm me.

[Kev*]

are you saying that me being gay i am going against god?

well yes

Leviticus 18:22
'Do not have sex with a man as you would with a woman. It is an abomination.'
Leviticus 20:13
'If a man has sex with a man in same way as with a woman, they have committed an abomination. They are certainly to be put to death.'
Leviticus 20:13
'Their blood is on their own heads.'

[kolte]

are you saying that me being gay i am going against god?

well yes

Leviticus 18:22
'Do not have sex with a man as you would with a woman. It is an abomination.'
Leviticus 20:13
'If a man has sex with a man in same way as with a woman, they have committed an abomination. They are certainly to be put to death.'
Leviticus 20:13
'Their blood is on their own heads.'

well I'm gay, I would never have sex with a man as I would with a woman becasue a woman doesnt have a penis to suck now does she. silly christ follower. your all confused. oh yes, keep your moral christian views out of the site.

[Kev*]

are you saying that me being gay i am going against god?

well yes

Leviticus 18:22
'Do not have sex with a man as you would with a woman. It is an abomination.'
Leviticus 20:13
'If a man has sex with a man in same way as with a woman, they have committed an abomination. They are certainly to be put to death.'
Leviticus 20:13
'Their blood is on their own heads.'

well I'm gay, I would never have sex with a man as I would with a woman becasue a woman doesnt have a penis to suck now does she. silly christ follower. your all confused. oh yes, keep your moral christian views out of the site.

yea ok this is a forum where you can express your veiws and this bolded italiced and underlined yeah that offends me!

look i jus wanted to c if this place tempted people and it hasnt turned outlike that i didnt want to offend neone

i was doing nothing wrong

and it doesnt mean exactly physically it means meantally bcoz God made sex a specaial thing btween men and WOMAN and your just abusing that

if you uhave sex btween a man as you whould hav sex lik your meant to btween men and woman is all that it means

[kolte]

oh and I believe your "jesus" said the following:

"do not judge, or you too will be judged. For in the same way you judge others you will be judged, and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you. Why do you look at the speck of sawdust in your brothers eye and pay no attention in the plank of wood in your own eye? How can you say to your brother let me take the speck out of your eye when all the time there is a plank in your own eye? You hypocrite, first take the plank out of your own eye and then you will see clearly to remove the speck from your brothers.'

Yoy don't have to have a religious battle with me, I will allways win, I have read that stupid book dry, I'm jewish I have to, not to mention my mums mormen I had to read there silly new testiment and that god forsaken book of moman as well.

[Kev*]

how an i judging you?!

[kolte]

you are passing judgement onto me by saying that what I do is wrong. I'm gay, I follow the law of man and I do what is good and right. I'm not judgeing your religion, christ was a wonderful preacher, moses was as well, its good that you have found somthing to believe in, but you are judgeing that what I'm doing is sinful. and I'm telling you that I do not lust men, I love just as you would love a women. don't tell me what I'm doing is wrong when you are doing wrong yourself. dont be a hypocrite

[kolte]

lets move it to the debate forum I'm educating the young lad

[kolte]

ok, I noticed that you were quoting from the old testiment, but you must remember what jesus said in matthew chapter five.

"you have heard that it was said love your neighbor and hate your enemy but I tell you love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, that you may be sons of your father in heaven. he causes his sun to rise on the evil and the good, and sends rain on the righteous and the unrighteous if you love those who love you what reward will you get are not even the tax collectors doing that? and if you greet only your brothers what are you ding more then others? do not even the pagans do that, ve perfecct, therefore, as your heavenly father is perfect"

[redcar]

i see it this way, i am a catholic and believe in God,

i believe god made us all

he made some of us gay and some of us str8 and some of us bi

then why would he dam people he made?

[Dante]

Billie.joe.gd have you even had a conversation with someone who is gay?....well i have and they have told me that is not something they chose but the way they were born. Who would choose to be gay when people like you are roaming around. I am christian and if you have read the bible you know that there are plenty of contradictions in the bible.....People are gay and as a society we have to accept that

[Ravenous]

I believe that what you are doing should not be wrong, because you were made gay. You cannot control that. So if god created you, then he made you gay. So it was his choice. Anyway IMO there is no god, you were made how you were made by your mum and your dad and their genes.
Mind you that billie joe guy wont see this now, he he only visits the puberty forum.

[Englishkid]

People shouldn't live a lie by pretending to be stright when really there gay because some book says its wrong and god might not even exist live how you want to not what some book tells you.

[Underage_Thinker]

I thinnk the problem with most people is that they asome that the bible is word for word what god said. I think you should remember that the bible is written by man, thus it is mans interpreetation of what god said. So i think people should not take the bibel so seriously and should just live a moraly correct life.

[WelshLad]

ok koler ur picture of that wierd goth woman is starting to scare me and can you tone down please, your comments would be offensive to christians (although i have no religon myself).

I thought christ was accepting of all people. Homsexuality is against Judaism as well (i think), but it still happens.

[Trademarked]

and you do realize (not just you lloyd but everybody) that not everybody believes in god.
i do not believe in god there fore i do not have to follow and live by his rules.
it may be in the bible and all that stuff but i am not christian or catholic and i am gay.
just like in america, the reason people voted to ban gay marriage is because it is not right according to the bible.
not everybody is religious and we dont have to live by their rules

[RunAwayMolly]

the bible is for interpretation... i refuse to take any of it litterally because if god IS one eternal being who created heaven and earth etc.. etc... s/he also gave us free will... and ALSO i believe that if god is one eternal being s/he put homosexuals on earth to ONE control the population... and TWO teach tolerance and understanding.

the only problem with is is people are inately closed-minded and mean... osme peoples morals are just compeltely out of wack... they put things like homosexuality and sex before understanding one another and loving everyone for who they are... but hey what are morals? :wink:

[TheWizard]

are you saying that me being gay i am going against god?

well yes

Leviticus 18:22
'Do not have sex with a man as you would with a woman. It is an abomination.'
Leviticus 20:13
'If a man has sex with a man in same way as with a woman, they have committed an abomination. They are certainly to be put to death.'
Leviticus 20:13
'Their blood is on their own heads.'

Excuse me but aren't qouting the old testiment. If you are free to qoute the old testiment then I will show you the horror of the bible.

[RunAwayMolly]

are you saying that me being gay i am going against god?

well yes

Leviticus 18:22
'Do not have sex with a man as you would with a woman. It is an abomination.'
Leviticus 20:13
'If a man has sex with a man in same way as with a woman, they have committed an abomination. They are certainly to be put to death.'
Leviticus 20:13
'Their blood is on their own heads.'

Excuse me but aren't qouting the old testiment. If you are free to qoute the old testiment then I will show you the horror of the bible.

see this is the problem... people take it wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy too literally.

[0sm0sis]

christians arnt supposed to be gay, its evil. but that doesnt stop me. u cant take everything at face value when it comes to religion. in my opinion u need to decide wat u think is evil or not, and what you think you should do and not do.

All religions say being gay is wrong. Have fun in hell :)

[redcar]

christians arnt supposed to be gay, its evil. but that doesnt stop me. u cant take everything at face value when it comes to religion. in my opinion u need to decide wat u think is evil or not, and what you think you should do and not do.

All religions say being gay is wrong. Have fun in hell :)

why dont you prehaps, drop dead.

[kolte]

christians arnt supposed to be gay, its evil. but that doesnt stop me. u cant take everything at face value when it comes to religion. in my opinion u need to decide wat u think is evil or not, and what you think you should do and not do.

All religions say being gay is wrong. Have fun in hell :)

why dont you prehaps, drop dead.

agreed...and hes actually wrong, buddhism and hinduism say nothing about it....but they allso say loveing is useless as well as attatchment. so yeah. :(

[tucker92]

see the old testament tell u how NOT to have sex with a guy but it doesnt tell u how u should. thats whats wrong with the bible. its all about what not to do :p

[redcar]

thats the problem with the bible it is full of contradictions.

[tucker92]

that aint really even a contradiction. by saying that you cant have sex with a guy the same way u do with a girl it implies that there is a right way to do it. it just doesnt say what that way is. more incompleteness than contradiction.

[redcar]

no i wasnt making reference to having sex with a guy, just saying that we really cant take the bible at face value when there a lot of contradictions in it. so why should we follow wat it says about homosexuality.

[tucker92]

oh ok i see. yeah i agree. no more than the dietary laws and stuff. wouldnt it suck goin to hell for eatin a cheeseburger? but it doesnt say a guy cant have sex with a guy...just not like with a girl and thats pretty much a no-brainer. its just the people that read it differently that cause the problems.

[Elokyn]

I'm gonna give my opinion right quick....

Now...noone really knows exactly what God wants. Maybe it's because he likes metaphores, maybe its because he's superior, maybe it's just because we overanalyze. Whatever it is though..nobody knows. However in my opinion God doesn't put sins on a scale...a sin is a sin is a sin. (that's of course excluding the "unforgiveable sin")....that being said...

If this topic were about what God thought of liars, or murderers, or adulterers, or theifs I honestly believe that a lot of people would have posted saying if you ask for forgiveness he'll forgive you and you're fine.....
I think it's horrible that our society has sunk so low. I'm not gonna sit here and pretend that I know what it's like to be gay, but I am a christian person and I do NOT believe that it's wrong, and I'll tell you why.
I believe in God....I believe he made the heavens and the earth and blah blah blah, and I believe he has a certain way of doing things and I do believe he did one hell of a job, but just because I believe in him doesn't mean I have to agree with everything he says or I'm going to hell....

I hope that made as much sense as it did in my head....buut that's all I have to say.

[kolte]

if we took out the storys, and kept what morals and preachings were tought, regreardless of who said what or how they said it, then you get a good book of morals. Thtats all the bible is. and in the old testiment...there is no hell...so yeah.

[Underage_Thinker]

You relize none of the homophobics have posted in a wile to argu back. :lol:

[redcar]

i dont think there are that many homophobic members, and i dont think that any of the regulars are homophobic.

[Underage_Thinker]

o cause i got plenty were i live

[redcar]

theres plenty everywhere, but i am happy to say i have only rarely encountered one here.

[Underage_Thinker]

ya i live in the most conservetive place probly anywere. I jut want to get away from it.

[redcar]

i am lucky where i live being gay is accepted, but then again some people dont, like it wouldnt be the most openly accepting gay society.

[Underage_Thinker]

Like were i live it is so exstreamly conservetive. Like peole are so ignorant that if u even ever acted gay u would be damed to hell instantly in their eyes.

[redcar]

thats pretty shit.

[Underage_Thinker]

ya like this girl i know is a lesbian. and she has been prttymuch forced to be a goth (not that their is anything wrong with goths) just b/c she isnt str8t