View Full Version : New Theory of Big Bang
Perseus
February 26th, 2009, 05:07 PM
OK, before any of you get cofnused, this is from my Astronomy Magazine(Name of it lol) and astronomers and scientists have a new theory of the Big Bang.
From what Ive read so far, it says maybe the Big Bang is actually a cycle of big bangs that occur about every Trillion of years to make new matter and etc..
Well it talks about how the first 5 billion of years or so is for cooling down .
Around 9 billion years, dark energy takes over and it makes it start expanding more rapidly(were in this part, Universe is 13.7 billion years old or so).
And after it ends in a Big Crunch, there will be another Big Bang, and it will just keep repeating it self, but were are not the first one of this cycle.
SO what are your views on this.
I will make it sound better once I finished reading all of it.
But I think it could be possible, but I dont know.
Anything is possible in our universe.
EDIT: More info - Ok well what they think( I read more) is that membrane like worlds will collide with each other and form a new Big BAng. They get that theory from the String Theory.
Mzor203
February 26th, 2009, 05:15 PM
What I believe is pretty much that we've gone out of our own league with trying to understand how the entire universe functions. That's just rediculous. I think that, it may be possible this is the explanation, and it may be possible many of the other explanations are true. I'm going to reserve myself and take a look at all the theories, but never believe on until they have complete, concrete evidence and facts that can be relied upon.
When trying to understand how the universe was created, there are so many things that need to be taken into account that, even if you just have a basic theory, one overlooked thing could throw it off. This means that these theories, while they may sound nice, drawn out, and all scientific like, are still just that, theories. So, I really don't think a new big bang is going to happen because, for one, the amount of matter and energy in the universe is always constant, there is no need for the iniverse to 'create new matter' that I can see.
theOperaGhost
February 26th, 2009, 05:22 PM
Ah, the string theory...probably one of my favorite topics, however I am certainly not capable of debating it.
Whisper
February 26th, 2009, 06:02 PM
Ya that's been out for a few months now its called loop quantum gravity which suggests the possibility of like a quantum bounce
I read a journal on it
very interesting stuff
edit
I love physics as far as the theory's and models
I just can't do the most basic math for it LOL
ThatCanadianGuy
February 26th, 2009, 06:04 PM
Well, instead of me writing a whole BOOK right here, I'll just link to a video I made a while back concerning this subject, and why I still think that at the moment heat death is a more likely fate for our universe. The Big Crunch theory isn't anything new, but that's enough typing from me :D here's my video response!
I hope you all like my lip-synch of Meatloaf at the end! lol
63k9arltiCo
Perseus
February 26th, 2009, 07:00 PM
Lulz :D
Wow, are you serious though, is this theory really old?
Stupid magazine..
They also sent me a video from the Universe tv series about the life and death of a star(now dont get me wrong, anything about astronomy to me is epic),and the video is 2 years old.. I was just like wow.. way to be not creative.. and TCG... What are your views on the Big Freeze? What makes you think that the Big Freeze isn't possible like The Big Crunch, because they all sound awesome, episcially the Big Crunch :D.
Mzor203
February 26th, 2009, 07:14 PM
Just because it sounds awesome doesn't mean it's possible.
Lol. :P
CaptainObvious
February 26th, 2009, 09:38 PM
This is a bit of a stupid debate. None of you are in any way qualified mathematically to have even the faintest actual understanding of these theories; you all commenting on them is like a monkey theorizing why the sun rises and sets.
theOperaGhost
February 26th, 2009, 09:41 PM
This is a bit of a stupid debate. None of you are in any way qualified mathematically to have even the faintest actual understanding of these theories; you all commenting on them is like a monkey theorizing why the sun rises and sets.
Hence why I said....
Ah, the string theory...probably one of my favorite topics, however I am certainly not capable of debating it.
ThatCanadianGuy
February 26th, 2009, 10:02 PM
This is a bit of a stupid debate. None of you are in any way qualified mathematically to have even the faintest actual understanding of these theories; you all commenting on them is like a monkey theorizing why the sun rises and sets.
Thanks for sharing your wealth of knowledge on the subject. Your intelligence surely rivals that of Newton, so be so kind as to grace us with your divine knowledge of the universe.
Maybe you could have given an opinion relevant to the topic, instead of insulting everyone.
Franz Duck
February 26th, 2009, 10:04 PM
CRUNCH
Sounds fun, wish I knew more about it though.
CaptainObvious
February 27th, 2009, 03:15 AM
Thanks for sharing your wealth of knowledge on the subject. Your intelligence surely rivals that of Newton, so be so kind as to grace us with your divine knowledge of the universe.
Maybe you could have given an opinion relevant to the topic, instead of insulting everyone.
I'm not qualified to have a particularly useful opinion on the topic either. Maybe you could point out where I said I was? Or were you just assuming that with no basis?
Unless you are a wildly capable mathematical genius (and I have seen no indication of that), you are entirely unqualified to comment upon string theory and other theories of such magnitude on any more than an extremely superficial level.
You have this bad habit of assuming you're qualified to comment on things that you are unequivocally not.
Perseus
February 27th, 2009, 07:10 AM
IM sorry that I asked a thread about people's opinions on the begining of the universe, everyone is entitled to their opinion how the universe started, and I wanted to put in a new theory that I saw in my magazine,so let us debate in peace, please.
INFERNO
February 27th, 2009, 01:18 PM
I remember my highschool physics teacher mentioning this theory at around Grade 9-10 or so. I'm not sure why he did, I think we were watching Carl Sagan movies and somehow that fit in with it. I've looked a bit into the String Theory just for the fun of it as it truly does sound very interesting. However, I'm afraid I'm like the next random fool with absolutely no qualifications to discuss it as the physics and math that it is based on would go in one ear and out the other, or maybe not even get in the ear. I've done some university level math (calculus) but that is no where near close to understanding the mathematical basis for these theories.
However, taking a rather layman-like approach, the way I think of the theory is based on gravity: as the universe expands, gravity pulls on it and makes it bend backwards and crush/crunch. That's about as much as I can make of the theory, and I'm willing to bet there's a hell of a lot more to it that I just cannot understand.
Halibut
February 27th, 2009, 01:34 PM
wow that actually really makes sense. i tottaly believe that. funny how were makeing it heat up again though..do you think that could mess it up somehow!!??
Mzor203
February 27th, 2009, 01:35 PM
wow that actually really makes sense. i tottaly believe that. funny how were makeing it heat up again though..do you think that could mess it up somehow!!??
No. The Earth is one tiny planet in the vastness of space. The heat on Earth affects nothing outside, well, Earth. Any heat that's transmitted to space pretty much disappears.
Perseus
February 27th, 2009, 04:57 PM
Deep space is pretty close to absolute zero(0K, -457.3F), os any heat from our atmosphere wont do anything.. and space is just a cold vacuum.
Actually,(I should know this) why is deep space cold even near Blue Giants?
CaptainObvious
February 27th, 2009, 11:18 PM
Deep space is pretty close to absolute zero(0K, -457.3F), os any heat from our atmosphere wont do anything.. and space is just a cold vacuum.
Actually,(I should know this) why is deep space cold even near Blue Giants?
...it's not. The temperature of deep space is the average temperature, and deep space means deep space, not space near large, hot objects. :P
Perseus
February 27th, 2009, 11:20 PM
...it's not. The temperature of deep space is the average temperature, and deep space means deep space, not space near large, hot objects. :P
Im an idiot.. I feel so stupid now..
forgetting stuff of my favorite topic..
Antares
February 28th, 2009, 09:44 AM
Well is it a real theory????
And also, I don't like this theory...I really don't. It doesn't make sense. lol
EDIT: I have had a Physics course (last year) and I am pretty much updated on this stuff, I just simply think this theory is to...unbelievable...for me. I want evidence to support this.
ShatteredGlass
February 28th, 2009, 10:44 AM
This is a bit of a stupid debate. None of you are in any way qualified mathematically to have even the faintest actual understanding of these theories; you all commenting on them is like a monkey theorizing why the sun rises and sets.
Yeah i kind of agree with that. Tho i probably wouldnt havent put it that exactly that way. Seeing as none of us are scientist, or mathematicians. None of us can produce a valid in argument for this like...even remotely. And you know i think that Scientist can come up with any theory they want, it doesnt make it true.
Perseus
February 28th, 2009, 10:47 AM
People think this because of the string theory..
Basically what they are saying, Saturn, is that parallel universes, or membrane like worlds, collide with each other every trillion years or so to from a new Big Bang, to have different matter. Yes, I know this isn't evidence but why do you dot think it possible? And Im prettty sure its a real theory because it was in the most popular Astronomy Magazine. They wont put stupid theories that no one believes.. also teh're going to best testing this theory for about a decade with a new telescope to see if its possible, or just one Big Bang happened and Im pretty sure you know whats going down in Europe, right?
vBulletin® v3.8.9, Copyright ©2000-2021, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.